The WEIRD political hypocrisy of this board.

[jc456]

Under Obama everyone on the right loved Bush and the left hated him. Now Bush is hated by the right and admired by the left.
When McCain/Romney ran against Obama they were supported by the right and despised by the left. Now those roles too have reversed.

I think it is a flawed personal trait when you don't have the courage to stick to your so called principles regardless of someone elses health condition. It's hard to take a lot of you serious.

It depends on the politicians. They changed, not us. Bush agreeing with obammy? But he is. Political partnerships are evil in that way!

 

[Pumpkin Row]

We the people decide nothing. The government in the first few decades of its existence violated the very constitution that they claim lists our recognized rights, by blending sentences together in the constitution to decide that they can regulate absolutely everything. What we want or think does not matter, and has never mattered.

Our votes don't even matter, what we vote for has no bearing on what the Electoral College decides, and in fact, they're living proof that the government simply apoints whatever people they want into whatever position they want.

I bet you even think that the government checks and balances itself, despite the fact that each 'branch' is a head on the same hydra. As a matter of fact, they all work towards the same interest, because they're all attached to the same body.

Better yet, when did you consent to being ruled by the government? I never signed the Constitution, so why does the government still steal my money? What legitimate claim do they have to the fruits of anyone's labor? If a group of robbers, murderers, and kidnappers gathers together and declares themselves the government, does that give them some claim to everyone's money is they so declare it legal?

Have you ever considered why it is that a group of robbers, murderers, and kidnappers can just declare that they have rights which we do not, and act upon them?

Yes, We the People decide and Yes, our votes do matter
Thousands of politicians were sent packing in the last election

We have a superior democracy to what our founders envisioned. People have more freedom, more of a voice, more liberty

Our nation and the Government that runs it has evolved and we are all better for it

You clearly didn't listen to the video, or my argument. I pointed out that the Constitution holds no power over the government, nor does it give the government any legitimacy if it did.

You also completely ignored that the electoral college exists, they're never under any obligation to listen to the people, they can easily just decide on any other choice. Even if they are bound by your decision, here are the chances of your vote being decisive by state:

Even ignoring all of the aforementioned, you completely neglected to explain what gives the government legitimacy, and how anyone consented to being ruled by these robbers, murderers, and kidnappers. Furthermore, there's evidence that presidents are promoted from within the government, regardless of anything claimed to be the political process: Five Star Trust Origins - FBI Redacted Report

Even ignoring all of the above, how do we know how many votes were placed on which thing? the government counts the votes they can fudge the numbers as much as they like.

I don’t watch RW propaganda videos

What gives our government legitimacy is something We the People call the Constitution
It created a more perfect union

"RW propaganda" pfffthahaha. I'm an Anarchist, the Rightwingers support the state, just like you do. It's not propaganda, it explains why the state is illigitimate by explaining objective facts. If you're not going to look through my evidence, you can't refute my point, so you're essentially just here to parrot your false narrative.

Did you sign the Constitution to consent being ruled? No, you didn't, and neither did anyone else besides the people who declared that they have the right to rule us. So, no, we the people did not give them legitimacy, and that's something explained in that video which you refuse to watch.

Anarchist while you live with mommy and daddy

How hypocritical

Where I live does not change whether the government is legitimate or not, you're just avoiding the point entirely, and throwing in an adhom for good measure.

 

[rightwinger]

It has existed for over 200 years as We the People decide what size government we desire

And yes, government does give us freedom as it has protected civil rights, women’s rights, worker protections, environmental protection and recently gay rights

That is freedom

We the people decide nothing. The government in the first few decades of its existence violated the very constitution that they claim lists our recognized rights, by blending sentences together in the constitution to decide that they can regulate absolutely everything. What we want or think does not matter, and has never mattered.

Our votes don't even matter, what we vote for has no bearing on what the Electoral College decides, and in fact, they're living proof that the government simply apoints whatever people they want into whatever position they want.

I bet you even think that the government checks and balances itself, despite the fact that each 'branch' is a head on the same hydra. As a matter of fact, they all work towards the same interest, because they're all attached to the same body.

Better yet, when did you consent to being ruled by the government? I never signed the Constitution, so why does the government still steal my money? What legitimate claim do they have to the fruits of anyone's labor? If a group of robbers, murderers, and kidnappers gathers together and declares themselves the government, does that give them some claim to everyone's money is they so declare it legal?

Have you ever considered why it is that a group of robbers, murderers, and kidnappers can just declare that they have rights which we do not, and act upon them?

Yes, We the People decide and Yes, our votes do matter
Thousands of politicians were sent packing in the last election

We have a superior democracy to what our founders envisioned. People have more freedom, more of a voice, more liberty

Our nation and the Government that runs it has evolved and we are all better for it

You clearly didn't listen to the video, or my argument. I pointed out that the Constitution holds no power over the government, nor does it give the government any legitimacy if it did.

You also completely ignored that the electoral college exists, they're never under any obligation to listen to the people, they can easily just decide on any other choice. Even if they are bound by your decision, here are the chances of your vote being decisive by state:

Even ignoring all of the aforementioned, you completely neglected to explain what gives the government legitimacy, and how anyone consented to being ruled by these robbers, murderers, and kidnappers. Furthermore, there's evidence that presidents are promoted from within the government, regardless of anything claimed to be the political process: Five Star Trust Origins - FBI Redacted Report

Even ignoring all of the above, how do we know how many votes were placed on which thing? the government counts the votes they can fudge the numbers as much as they like.

I don’t watch RW propaganda videos

What gives our government legitimacy is something We the People call the Constitution
It created a more perfect union

"RW propaganda" pfffthahaha. I'm an Anarchist, the Rightwingers support the state, just like you do. It's not propaganda, it explains why the state is illigitimate by explaining objective facts. If you're not going to look through my evidence, you can't refute my point, so you're essentially just here to parrot your false narrative.

Did you sign the Constitution to consent being ruled? No, you didn't, and neither did anyone else besides the people who declared that they have the right to rule us. So, no, we the people did not give them legitimacy, and that's something explained in that video which you refuse to watch.

You consent to being ruled by the Constitution with your feet

You don’t like our system of government, get mommy and daddy to give you money and move to the anarchist country if your choice

Better yet, get a job

 

[rightwinger]

Yes, We the People decide and Yes, our votes do matter
Thousands of politicians were sent packing in the last election

We have a superior democracy to what our founders envisioned. People have more freedom, more of a voice, more liberty

Our nation and the Government that runs it has evolved and we are all better for it

You clearly didn't listen to the video, or my argument. I pointed out that the Constitution holds no power over the government, nor does it give the government any legitimacy if it did.

You also completely ignored that the electoral college exists, they're never under any obligation to listen to the people, they can easily just decide on any other choice. Even if they are bound by your decision, here are the chances of your vote being decisive by state:

Even ignoring all of the aforementioned, you completely neglected to explain what gives the government legitimacy, and how anyone consented to being ruled by these robbers, murderers, and kidnappers. Furthermore, there's evidence that presidents are promoted from within the government, regardless of anything claimed to be the political process: Five Star Trust Origins - FBI Redacted Report

Even ignoring all of the above, how do we know how many votes were placed on which thing? the government counts the votes they can fudge the numbers as much as they like.

I don’t watch RW propaganda videos

What gives our government legitimacy is something We the People call the Constitution
It created a more perfect union

"RW propaganda" pfffthahaha. I'm an Anarchist, the Rightwingers support the state, just like you do. It's not propaganda, it explains why the state is illigitimate by explaining objective facts. If you're not going to look through my evidence, you can't refute my point, so you're essentially just here to parrot your false narrative.

Did you sign the Constitution to consent being ruled? No, you didn't, and neither did anyone else besides the people who declared that they have the right to rule us. So, no, we the people did not give them legitimacy, and that's something explained in that video which you refuse to watch.

Anarchist while you live with mommy and daddy

How hypocritical

Where I live does not change whether the government is legitimate or not, you're just avoiding the point entirely, and throwing in an adhom for good measure.

Afraid you don’t have a dog in the fight Lil Miss Anarchist

 

[jc456]

Under Obama everyone on the right loved Bush and the left hated him. Now Bush is hated by the right and admired by the left.
When McCain/Romney ran against Obama they were supported by the right and despised by the left. Now those roles too have reversed.

I think it is a flawed personal trait when you don't have the courage to stick to your so called principles regardless of someone elses health condition. It's hard to take a lot of you serious.

No liberals thought that the right wing in the U.S. would turn as extreme as it has. The idea of a Trump presidency existed only in a comedy show named 'The Simpsons'. It is an utter absurdity.

The left hasn't changed much, true Republicans like the Bushs, McCain and Romney seem a whole lot more reasonable than the wack job that's our current President.

The fact that all the Trumpbots now despise the Bushs, McCain and Romney shows how far off the deep end they've gone. There is something seriously wrong with these people!

The wild card that Trump has brought into the arena are the people who are angry and bitter at our government and politicians from both parties. Trump is a big messy Fuck You to all those people and his base loves it. It actually makes sense if you think about it. The unfortunate part is it seems these people care more about the “Fuck You” than promoting a healthy and productive state of affairs.

I agree! Wow

 

[Pumpkin Row]

We the people decide nothing. The government in the first few decades of its existence violated the very constitution that they claim lists our recognized rights, by blending sentences together in the constitution to decide that they can regulate absolutely everything. What we want or think does not matter, and has never mattered.

Our votes don't even matter, what we vote for has no bearing on what the Electoral College decides, and in fact, they're living proof that the government simply apoints whatever people they want into whatever position they want.

I bet you even think that the government checks and balances itself, despite the fact that each 'branch' is a head on the same hydra. As a matter of fact, they all work towards the same interest, because they're all attached to the same body.

Better yet, when did you consent to being ruled by the government? I never signed the Constitution, so why does the government still steal my money? What legitimate claim do they have to the fruits of anyone's labor? If a group of robbers, murderers, and kidnappers gathers together and declares themselves the government, does that give them some claim to everyone's money is they so declare it legal?

Have you ever considered why it is that a group of robbers, murderers, and kidnappers can just declare that they have rights which we do not, and act upon them?

Yes, We the People decide and Yes, our votes do matter
Thousands of politicians were sent packing in the last election

We have a superior democracy to what our founders envisioned. People have more freedom, more of a voice, more liberty

Our nation and the Government that runs it has evolved and we are all better for it

You clearly didn't listen to the video, or my argument. I pointed out that the Constitution holds no power over the government, nor does it give the government any legitimacy if it did.

You also completely ignored that the electoral college exists, they're never under any obligation to listen to the people, they can easily just decide on any other choice. Even if they are bound by your decision, here are the chances of your vote being decisive by state:

Even ignoring all of the aforementioned, you completely neglected to explain what gives the government legitimacy, and how anyone consented to being ruled by these robbers, murderers, and kidnappers. Furthermore, there's evidence that presidents are promoted from within the government, regardless of anything claimed to be the political process: Five Star Trust Origins - FBI Redacted Report

Even ignoring all of the above, how do we know how many votes were placed on which thing? the government counts the votes they can fudge the numbers as much as they like.

I don’t watch RW propaganda videos

What gives our government legitimacy is something We the People call the Constitution
It created a more perfect union

"RW propaganda" pfffthahaha. I'm an Anarchist, the Rightwingers support the state, just like you do. It's not propaganda, it explains why the state is illigitimate by explaining objective facts. If you're not going to look through my evidence, you can't refute my point, so you're essentially just here to parrot your false narrative.

Did you sign the Constitution to consent being ruled? No, you didn't, and neither did anyone else besides the people who declared that they have the right to rule us. So, no, we the people did not give them legitimacy, and that's something explained in that video which you refuse to watch.

You consent to being ruled by the Constitution with your feet

You don’t like our system of government, get mommy and daddy to give you money and move to the anarchist country if your choice

Better yet, get a job

And what gives the government legitimacy to own this land, and rule everything within it? Again, this point is already refuted in the video that you refuse to watch. Your fear of knowledge is exactly what will keep you licking the Government's jackboots until the day you die.

Afraid you don’t have a dog in the fight Lil Miss Anarchist

Yet you refuse to look at my evidence, and instead make 1-2 sentence responses which have already been debunked by my evidence. You actually probably already know you're wrong, which is why you won't go through any of my citations.

 

[BasicHumanUnit]

The wild card that Trump has brought into the arena are the people who are angry and bitter at our government and politicians from both parties. Trump is a big messy Fuck You to all those people and his base loves it. It actually makes sense if you think about it. The unfortunate part is it seems these people care more about the “Fuck You” than promoting a healthy and productive state of affairs.

so....supporting those sworn to annihilate us is "healthy and productive"? (Obama gives Billions to Iran and a free pass on nuclear inspections)

The Obama Administration backs radical Islamist Morsi in Eqypt. Expedites the shipment of advanced US military tech for his use.

GEEEZ...the "healthy & productive" state of affairs you mention MUST be intended for the enemies of the US.

 

[bendog]

The question for conservatism is what is "limited federal govt" that a maj would vote for, and why would they vote for it.

More than a supermaj believe limited fed govt is consistent with taxes to prevent poverty for retired workers. More than a maj believe insurers should accept prior conditions (or find another way for those folks to get covered). Obamacare's mandate as to what insurance people actually had to buy was unpopular. It offended the notion that people should exercise free will.

Wall St, and Noquist are NOT for limited govt. One could argue they're even worse than Sanders' notion of free tuition.

Reagan was elected in a time when the maj didn't believe the fed govt was capable of solving what it said could only be solved by the fed govt.

If we thePeople wanted a limited federal government we would have elected representatives who insisted on it

We generally send those nutcases packing

G5000 may be correct, but I hope not.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

Leftists don't stand FOR anything these days, much less actual liberal values. All they know is what they are told to stand against and the importance for soldiering for the globalist agenda.

Since they are sheeple for the globalist agenda, they hate a man who puts his country first. Since they hate the man who puts his country first, they support anything or anybody they see as opposing that man. It doesn't mean any difference if it is an Islamist opposing him, a snotty nosed European elite opposing him, a little Antifa thug opposing him or a republican opposing him -- if something opposes Trump, they support it.

 

[OldLady]

I'm betting Ogunquit is decked out in black crepe today. 41 and the whole family were part of them.

Happy trails, George. We'll keep a lobster roll ready for ya.

Oops. Kennebunkport.

 

[rightwinger]

Yes, We the People decide and Yes, our votes do matter
Thousands of politicians were sent packing in the last election

We have a superior democracy to what our founders envisioned. People have more freedom, more of a voice, more liberty

Our nation and the Government that runs it has evolved and we are all better for it

You clearly didn't listen to the video, or my argument. I pointed out that the Constitution holds no power over the government, nor does it give the government any legitimacy if it did.

You also completely ignored that the electoral college exists, they're never under any obligation to listen to the people, they can easily just decide on any other choice. Even if they are bound by your decision, here are the chances of your vote being decisive by state:

Even ignoring all of the aforementioned, you completely neglected to explain what gives the government legitimacy, and how anyone consented to being ruled by these robbers, murderers, and kidnappers. Furthermore, there's evidence that presidents are promoted from within the government, regardless of anything claimed to be the political process: Five Star Trust Origins - FBI Redacted Report

Even ignoring all of the above, how do we know how many votes were placed on which thing? the government counts the votes they can fudge the numbers as much as they like.

I don’t watch RW propaganda videos

What gives our government legitimacy is something We the People call the Constitution
It created a more perfect union

"RW propaganda" pfffthahaha. I'm an Anarchist, the Rightwingers support the state, just like you do. It's not propaganda, it explains why the state is illigitimate by explaining objective facts. If you're not going to look through my evidence, you can't refute my point, so you're essentially just here to parrot your false narrative.

Did you sign the Constitution to consent being ruled? No, you didn't, and neither did anyone else besides the people who declared that they have the right to rule us. So, no, we the people did not give them legitimacy, and that's something explained in that video which you refuse to watch.

You consent to being ruled by the Constitution with your feet

You don’t like our system of government, get mommy and daddy to give you money and move to the anarchist country if your choice

Better yet, get a job

And what gives the government legitimacy to own this land, and rule everything within it? Again, this point is already refuted in the video that you refuse to watch. Your fear of knowledge is exactly what will keep you licking the Government's jackboots until the day you die.

Afraid you don’t have a dog in the fight Lil Miss Anarchist

Yet you refuse to look at my evidence, and instead make 1-2 sentence responses which have already been debunked by my evidence. You actually probably already know you're wrong, which is why you won't go through any of my citations.

What gives our government legitimacy is We the People have elected them to represent us. We formed a more perfect union through a Constitution and until that Constitution is repealed, we will abide by it

An NO.......I do not watch propaganda videos from any side.
You are a big girl, if you have a point to make....make it

 

[bendog]

Well, there wasn't much to the thread to be hijacked. (-:

 

[bendog]

I'm betting Ogunquit is decked out in black crepe today. 41 and the whole family were part of them.

Happy trails, George. We'll keep a lobster roll ready for ya.

Oops. Kennebunkport.

I'll eat his helping of broccoli at a not very good Chinese buffet tonight. Hopefully with a dry eye.

 

[Richard-H]

Under Obama everyone on the right loved Bush and the left hated him. Now Bush is hated by the right and admired by the left.
When McCain/Romney ran against Obama they were supported by the right and despised by the left. Now those roles too have reversed.

I think it is a flawed personal trait when you don't have the courage to stick to your so called principles regardless of someone elses health condition. It's hard to take a lot of you serious.

No liberals thought that the right wing in the U.S. would turn as extreme as it has. The idea of a Trump presidency existed only in a comedy show named 'The Simpsons'. It is an utter absurdity.

The left hasn't changed much, true Republicans like the Bushs, McCain and Romney seem a whole lot more reasonable than the wack job that's our current President.

The fact that all the Trumpbots now despise the Bushs, McCain and Romney shows how far off the deep end they've gone. There is something seriously wrong with these people!

The wild card that Trump has brought into the arena are the people who are angry and bitter at our government and politicians from both parties. Trump is a big messy Fuck You to all those people and his base loves it. It actually makes sense if you think about it. The unfortunate part is it seems these people care more about the “Fuck You” than promoting a healthy and productive state of affairs.

I agree somewhat, except for the fact that the vast majority of Trump supporters have been doing very well under the political system that they hate so much.

The U.S has an extremely high standard of living and is the most powerful nation economically, culturally, militarily etc...that there has ever been. They'v enjoyed a standard of living that people throughout the world and throughout history could only dream about.

It seems that the real problem is millions of very well off spoiled brats who have nothing better to do than bitch about imaginary boogey men in the government.

 

[OldLady]

I'm betting Ogunquit is decked out in black crepe today. 41 and the whole family were part of them.

Happy trails, George. We'll keep a lobster roll ready for ya.

Oops. Kennebunkport.

I'll eat his helping of broccoli at a not very good Chinese buffet tonight. Hopefully with a dry eye.

You're a good man, bendog.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

We the people decide nothing. The government in the first few decades of its existence violated the very constitution that they claim lists our recognized rights, by blending sentences together in the constitution to decide that they can regulate absolutely everything. What we want or think does not matter, and has never mattered.

Our votes don't even matter, what we vote for has no bearing on what the Electoral College decides, and in fact, they're living proof that the government simply apoints whatever people they want into whatever position they want.

I bet you even think that the government checks and balances itself, despite the fact that each 'branch' is a head on the same hydra. As a matter of fact, they all work towards the same interest, because they're all attached to the same body.

Better yet, when did you consent to being ruled by the government? I never signed the Constitution, so why does the government still steal my money? What legitimate claim do they have to the fruits of anyone's labor? If a group of robbers, murderers, and kidnappers gathers together and declares themselves the government, does that give them some claim to everyone's money is they so declare it legal?

Have you ever considered why it is that a group of robbers, murderers, and kidnappers can just declare that they have rights which we do not, and act upon them?

Yes, We the People decide and Yes, our votes do matter
Thousands of politicians were sent packing in the last election

We have a superior democracy to what our founders envisioned. People have more freedom, more of a voice, more liberty

Our nation and the Government that runs it has evolved and we are all better for it

You clearly didn't listen to the video, or my argument. I pointed out that the Constitution holds no power over the government, nor does it give the government any legitimacy if it did.

You also completely ignored that the electoral college exists, they're never under any obligation to listen to the people, they can easily just decide on any other choice. Even if they are bound by your decision, here are the chances of your vote being decisive by state:

Even ignoring all of the aforementioned, you completely neglected to explain what gives the government legitimacy, and how anyone consented to being ruled by these robbers, murderers, and kidnappers. Furthermore, there's evidence that presidents are promoted from within the government, regardless of anything claimed to be the political process: Five Star Trust Origins - FBI Redacted Report

Even ignoring all of the above, how do we know how many votes were placed on which thing? the government counts the votes they can fudge the numbers as much as they like.

I don’t watch RW propaganda videos

What gives our government legitimacy is something We the People call the Constitution
It created a more perfect union

"RW propaganda" pfffthahaha. I'm an Anarchist, the Rightwingers support the state, just like you do. It's not propaganda, it explains why the state is illigitimate by explaining objective facts. If you're not going to look through my evidence, you can't refute my point, so you're essentially just here to parrot your false narrative.

Did you sign the Constitution to consent being ruled? No, you didn't, and neither did anyone else besides the people who declared that they have the right to rule us. So, no, we the people did not give them legitimacy, and that's something explained in that video which you refuse to watch.

You consent to being ruled by the Constitution with your feet

You don’t like our system of government, get mommy and daddy to give you money and move to the anarchist country if your choice

Better yet, get a job

She's probably near 50 years younger than you and making you look like a chump.

Cease trying to be condescending ya old ass

 

[Richard-H]

Under Obama everyone on the right loved Bush and the left hated him. Now Bush is hated by the right and admired by the left.
When McCain/Romney ran against Obama they were supported by the right and despised by the left. Now those roles too have reversed.

I think it is a flawed personal trait when you don't have the courage to stick to your so called principles regardless of someone elses health condition. It's hard to take a lot of you serious.

No liberals thought that the right wing in the U.S. would turn as extreme as it has. The idea of a Trump presidency existed only in a comedy show named 'The Simpsons'. It is an utter absurdity.

The left hasn't changed much, true Republicans like the Bushs, McCain and Romney seem a whole lot more reasonable than the wack job that's our current President.

The fact that all the Trumpbots now despise the Bushs, McCain and Romney shows how far off the deep end they've gone. There is something seriously wrong with these people!

The left hasn't changed much, huh?


Both parties have changed....much. Good grief!

Nope, the 'left' is still mostly middle-of-the -road people who only lean a bit to the left. There has always been a minority of socialists and semi-socialists, but the only real difference is that they are no longer persecuted for speaking their mind.

Any change on the left is miniscule as compared to what's going on on the right. Holy Shit - Ronald Reagan would be considered a RINO nowadays!

 

[Richard-H]

Under Obama everyone on the right loved Bush and the left hated him. Now Bush is hated by the right and admired by the left.
When McCain/Romney ran against Obama they were supported by the right and despised by the left. Now those roles too have reversed.

I think it is a flawed personal trait when you don't have the courage to stick to your so called principles regardless of someone elses health condition. It's hard to take a lot of you serious.

No liberals thought that the right wing in the U.S. would turn as extreme as it has. The idea of a Trump presidency existed only in a comedy show named 'The Simpsons'. It is an utter absurdity.

The left hasn't changed much, true Republicans like the Bushs, McCain and Romney seem a whole lot more reasonable than the wack job that's our current President.

The fact that all the Trumpbots now despise the Bushs, McCain and Romney shows how far off the deep end they've gone. There is something seriously wrong with these people!

The wild card that Trump has brought into the arena are the people who are angry and bitter at our government and politicians from both parties. Trump is a big messy Fuck You to all those people and his base loves it. It actually makes sense if you think about it. The unfortunate part is it seems these people care more about the “Fuck You” than promoting a healthy and productive state of affairs.

It's always nice when you can flip the bird to the people who have been ripping off and sticking it to taxpayers for decades. It's not that hard to understand. Honest hard working people want Washington DC cleaned up.

If you personally know of any corruption in Washington, please report it to the authorities.

Otherwise STFU!

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Under Obama everyone on the right loved Bush and the left hated him. Now Bush is hated by the right and admired by the left.
When McCain/Romney ran against Obama they were supported by the right and despised by the left. Now those roles too have reversed.

I think it is a flawed personal trait when you don't have the courage to stick to your so called principles regardless of someone elses health condition. It's hard to take a lot of you serious.

No liberals thought that the right wing in the U.S. would turn as extreme as it has. The idea of a Trump presidency existed only in a comedy show named 'The Simpsons'. It is an utter absurdity.

The left hasn't changed much, true Republicans like the Bushs, McCain and Romney seem a whole lot more reasonable than the wack job that's our current President.

The fact that all the Trumpbots now despise the Bushs, McCain and Romney shows how far off the deep end they've gone. There is something seriously wrong with these people!

The left hasn't changed much, huh?


Both parties have changed....much. Good grief!

Nope, the 'left' is still mostly middle-of-the -road people who only lean a bit to the left. There has always been a minority of socialists and semi-socialists, but the only real difference is that they are no longer persecuted for speaking their mind.

Any change on the left is miniscule as compared to what's going on on the right. Holy Shit - Ronald Reagan would be considered a RINO nowadays!

Oh baloney, both sides have their extremes but the left is rapidly drifting to "democratic socialism".

 

[rightwinger]

Yes, We the People decide and Yes, our votes do matter
Thousands of politicians were sent packing in the last election

We have a superior democracy to what our founders envisioned. People have more freedom, more of a voice, more liberty

Our nation and the Government that runs it has evolved and we are all better for it

You clearly didn't listen to the video, or my argument. I pointed out that the Constitution holds no power over the government, nor does it give the government any legitimacy if it did.

You also completely ignored that the electoral college exists, they're never under any obligation to listen to the people, they can easily just decide on any other choice. Even if they are bound by your decision, here are the chances of your vote being decisive by state:

Even ignoring all of the aforementioned, you completely neglected to explain what gives the government legitimacy, and how anyone consented to being ruled by these robbers, murderers, and kidnappers. Furthermore, there's evidence that presidents are promoted from within the government, regardless of anything claimed to be the political process: Five Star Trust Origins - FBI Redacted Report

Even ignoring all of the above, how do we know how many votes were placed on which thing? the government counts the votes they can fudge the numbers as much as they like.

I don’t watch RW propaganda videos

What gives our government legitimacy is something We the People call the Constitution
It created a more perfect union

"RW propaganda" pfffthahaha. I'm an Anarchist, the Rightwingers support the state, just like you do. It's not propaganda, it explains why the state is illigitimate by explaining objective facts. If you're not going to look through my evidence, you can't refute my point, so you're essentially just here to parrot your false narrative.

Did you sign the Constitution to consent being ruled? No, you didn't, and neither did anyone else besides the people who declared that they have the right to rule us. So, no, we the people did not give them legitimacy, and that's something explained in that video which you refuse to watch.

You consent to being ruled by the Constitution with your feet

You don’t like our system of government, get mommy and daddy to give you money and move to the anarchist country if your choice

Better yet, get a job

She's probably near 50 years younger than you and making you look like a chump.

Cease trying to be condescending ya old ass

In spite of her flowery rhetoric she still comes off as a spoiled rich kid