There is no catastrophe so ghastly that we will reform our gun laws

[kaz]

No, but you often have to adjust society to deal with significant or even not so likely threats. You can make everyone take off their shoes at airports. And you can make them register their guns so you know who might be totally bonkers.

And what religious "extremists" have been a threat to our "society" who are not ... wait for it ... Muslim?

Anyone who takes out churches, abortion clinics, government buildings, schools, etc. It's a very long list of nutters and your kind is not exempt. If you were an honest person, you'd know that. Why do you think the government watches all of them, are they just bored?

Churches? Are you referring to racists? What does that have to do with "Christian extremists?"

Abortion Clinics - Your best example, happened primarily in the 90s and most of it was against property. Even among extreme Christians they are considered nut jobs. This is a very specific case. It's a data point, but way short of supporting your sweeping statement.

Government buildings - McVay wasn't a Christian and didn't do it for religion. So you are referring to what exactly?

Schools - I'm only aware of Muslims doing this, you're going to have to be more specific.

 

[The Rabbi]

And what religious "extremists" have been a threat to our "society" who are not ... wait for it ... Muslim?

Anyone who takes out churches, abortion clinics, government buildings, schools, etc. It's a very long list of nutters and your kind is not exempt. If you were an honest person, you'd know that. Why do you think the government watches all of them, are they just bored?

Churches? Are you referring to racists? What does that have to do with "Christian extremists?"

Abortion Clinics - Your best example, happened primarily in the 90s and most of it was against property. Even among extreme Christians they are considered nut jobs. This is a very specific case. It's a data point, but way short of supporting your sweeping statement.

Government buildings - McVay wasn't a Christian and didn't do it for religion. So you are referring to what exactly?

Schools - I'm only aware of Muslims doing this, you're going to have to be more specific.

Youre playing dirty, Kaz. Confronting him with facts? Way below the belt.

 

[kaz]

Anyone who takes out churches, abortion clinics, government buildings, schools, etc. It's a very long list of nutters and your kind is not exempt. If you were an honest person, you'd know that. Why do you think the government watches all of them, are they just bored?

Churches? Are you referring to racists? What does that have to do with "Christian extremists?"

Abortion Clinics - Your best example, happened primarily in the 90s and most of it was against property. Even among extreme Christians they are considered nut jobs. This is a very specific case. It's a data point, but way short of supporting your sweeping statement.

Government buildings - McVay wasn't a Christian and didn't do it for religion. So you are referring to what exactly?

Schools - I'm only aware of Muslims doing this, you're going to have to be more specific.

Youre playing dirty, Kaz. Confronting him with facts? Way below the belt.

Liberals commit more assaults and violence than Christians do

 

[PaintMyHouse]

You just don't like Christians and Jews.

I don't like human beings, I'd do away with all of them, but I especially dislike those who believe that they know the Will of God, or gods, and act upon it with violence or lawmaking.

If you could see past what blew up yesterday you'd see that the terror is not nearly as big an issue as the mentality, but you are hooked on hating Muslims instead when all the Muslim extremists are actually doing is following, unfortunately, their Holy Book. If the Christians followed the Bible you'd be praying for these extremists, not attempting to kill them.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Churches? Are you referring to racists? What does that have to do with "Christian extremists?"

Abortion Clinics - Your best example, happened primarily in the 90s and most of it was against property. Even among extreme Christians they are considered nut jobs. This is a very specific case. It's a data point, but way short of supporting your sweeping statement.

Government buildings - McVay wasn't a Christian and didn't do it for religion. So you are referring to what exactly?

Schools - I'm only aware of Muslims doing this, you're going to have to be more specific.

Youre playing dirty, Kaz. Confronting him with facts? Way below the belt.

Liberals commit more assaults and violence than Christians do

That's just utter nonsense especially since most Liberals in this country are Christians. Apples and Oranges.

The least likely "faiths" to be found in a prison are Atheism and Agnosticism. Both require higher-level thinking.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

And what religious "extremists" have been a threat to our "society" who are not ... wait for it ... Muslim?

Anyone who takes out churches, abortion clinics, government buildings, schools, etc. It's a very long list of nutters and your kind is not exempt. If you were an honest person, you'd know that. Why do you think the government watches all of them, are they just bored?

Churches? Are you referring to racists? What does that have to do with "Christian extremists?"

Abortion Clinics - Your best example, happened primarily in the 90s and most of it was against property. Even among extreme Christians they are considered nut jobs. This is a very specific case. It's a data point, but way short of supporting your sweeping statement.

Government buildings - McVay wasn't a Christian and didn't do it for religion. So you are referring to what exactly?

Schools - I'm only aware of Muslims doing this, you're going to have to be more specific.

You are a very concrete thinker I see, which makes perfect sense. You lack any and all historical perspective, which means you can't put today's religious struggles in accurate context. Let's mush on.

 

[theHawk]

Americans love our guns...

Nothing can change that

We had JFK, RFK, MLK, Reagan shot and we just sighed and said too bad
We had Columbine, Aurora, Virginia Tech and finally Newton and we did nothing
Our murder rate is triple of that in similar countries...we do nothing

We have our second amendment and are willing to put up with some bloodshed. It is the price of freedom

You can always quit your bitching and move to Europe, where you won't have the freedom to bear arms, or the freedom of speech.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Americans love our guns...

Nothing can change that

We had JFK, RFK, MLK, Reagan shot and we just sighed and said too bad
We had Columbine, Aurora, Virginia Tech and finally Newton and we did nothing
Our murder rate is triple of that in similar countries...we do nothing

We have our second amendment and are willing to put up with some bloodshed. It is the price of freedom

You can always quit your bitching and move to Europe, where you won't have the freedom to bear arms, or the freedom of speech.

The better fix would be to split this nation into as many as necessary.

 

[Mojo2]

There is no catastrophe so ghastly that America will reform its gun laws - The Week

Look, we've collectively decided, as a country, that the occasional massacre is okay with us. It's the price we're willing to pay for our precious Second Amendment freedoms. We're content to forfeit the lives of a few dozen schoolkids a year as long as we get to keep our guns. The people have spoken, in a cheering civics-class example of democracy in action.

It's hard to imagine what ghastly catastrophe could possibly change America's minds about guns if the little bloody bookbags of Newtown did not. After that atrocity, it seemed as if we would finally enact some obvious, long-overdue half-measures. But perfectly reasonable, moderate legislation expanding background checks and banning assault weapons and high-capacity magazines was summarily killed in the Senate for no reason other than that a sufficient number of United States senators are owned by the NRA. It made our official position as a nation nakedly explicit: we don't care about any number of murdered children, no matter how many, or how young. We want our guns.

There is no catastrophe so ghastly that America will reform its gun laws - The Week

Look, we've collectively decided, as a country, that the occasional massacre is okay with us. It's the price we're willing to pay for our precious Second Amendment freedoms. We're content to forfeit the lives of a few dozen schoolkids a year as long as we...get to keep SOME recourse to an over reaching Federal government which would eagerly become our Sovereign...and we its subjects.

There.

Fixed that fer ya.

 

[boedicca]

They don't have to be Christians and Jews, just give me a list of extremists from any religion other than Islam who are "blowing shit up."

Hindus, Buddhists, and those with no faith at all. Start here: Religious terrorism: a primer on terrorism and religion

You're keeping an eye on Christians because of the Spanish inquisition? You are full of crap. Just admit it and stop deflecting. Or give me a list of religious extremists who are "blowing shit up" ... other than Muslims.

I bet he's not paying attention things such as the Pakistani woman who was recently stoned to death by her family.

 

[theHawk]

Youre playing dirty, Kaz. Confronting him with facts? Way below the belt.

Liberals commit more assaults and violence than Christians do

That's just utter nonsense especially since most Liberals in this country are Christians. Apples and Oranges.

The least likely "faiths" to be found in a prison are Atheism and Agnosticism. Both require higher-level thinking.

Yea, Atheism: the religion of Peace.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Liberals commit more assaults and violence than Christians do

That's just utter nonsense especially since most Liberals in this country are Christians. Apples and Oranges.

The least likely "faiths" to be found in a prison are Atheism and Agnosticism. Both require higher-level thinking.

Yea, Atheism: the religion of Peace.

Not at all, those are simply the stats from prison. Do try and be rational next time.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Hindus, Buddhists, and those with no faith at all. Start here: Religious terrorism: a primer on terrorism and religion

You're keeping an eye on Christians because of the Spanish inquisition? You are full of crap. Just admit it and stop deflecting. Or give me a list of religious extremists who are "blowing shit up" ... other than Muslims.

I bet he's not paying attention things such as the Pakistani woman who was recently stoned to death by her family.

How very OT of them. Have you read that book, you know, the Bible?

And yes, that's exactly what I'm speaking of. The "faith" is irrelevant but the mentality isn't.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Glass houses? All those with extreme views?

OK, that works. You did keep talking about Christians and Jews, but let's drop that for the moment. They don't have to be Christians and Jews, just give me a list of extremists from any religion other than Islam who are "blowing shit up." You know, because we live in "glass houses" when we criticize Muslims for blowing shit up.

You seriously should just admit you were full of shit.

Don't blame al Muslims because of actions of the tiny minority; you cannot restrict the rights of all because of that same minority.

Gun owners/rights? That's different.

Dude, what the are you talking about?

The hypocricy of the left.

 

[boedicca]

9/11 was not ghastly enough to justify the limitation of religious rights.

Quite frankly? The LEFT fears Islam...and why they won't say anything. Christians and Jews are softer targets to them.

It's more like the enemy of my enemy is my friend.

Islam is an ally in the Left's campaign to destroy Western Civilization.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

9/11 was not ghastly enough to justify the limitation of religious rights.

Quite frankly? The LEFT fears Islam...and why they won't say anything. Christians and Jews are softer targets to them.

It's more like the enemy of my enemy is my friend.

Islam is an ally in the Left's campaign to destroy Western Civilization.

They hate us more than you, a lot more.

 

[theHawk]

Quite frankly? The LEFT fears Islam...and why they won't say anything. Christians and Jews are softer targets to them.

It's more like the enemy of my enemy is my friend.

Islam is an ally in the Left's campaign to destroy Western Civilization.

They hate us more than you, a lot more.

And yet you liberals constantly make excuses for them.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

It's more like the enemy of my enemy is my friend.

Islam is an ally in the Left's campaign to destroy Western Civilization.

They hate us more than you, a lot more.

And yet you liberals constantly make excuses for them.

No, we just don't throw stones when living in glass houses.

 

[JoeB131]

9/11 was not ghastly enough to justify the limitation of religious rights.

Quite frankly? The LEFT fears Islam...and why they won't say anything. Christians and Jews are softer targets to them.

No, we just don't think it's terribly relevent, being that less than .8% of the population of the US is Islamic.

The only reason we have a "problem" with the Islamic World is because we keep sticking our dicks in the hornet's nest and wondering why we get stung.

Case in point. 9/11. Which happened because the Soviets wanted to teach girls how to read in Afghanistan and your boy Ronnie Ray-gun wanted to fuck with them.

So he gave a bunch of weapons to guys like Bin Laden, and they turned around and stung us on our dicks.

 

[Not2BSubjugated]

There is no catastrophe so ghastly that America will reform its gun laws - The Week

Look, we've collectively decided, as a country, that the occasional massacre is okay with us. It's the price we're willing to pay for our precious Second Amendment freedoms. We're content to forfeit the lives of a few dozen schoolkids a year as long as we get to keep our guns. The people have spoken, in a cheering civics-class example of democracy in action.

It's hard to imagine what ghastly catastrophe could possibly change America's minds about guns if the little bloody bookbags of Newtown did not. After that atrocity, it seemed as if we would finally enact some obvious, long-overdue half-measures. But perfectly reasonable, moderate legislation expanding background checks and banning assault weapons and high-capacity magazines was summarily killed in the Senate for no reason other than that a sufficient number of United States senators are owned by the NRA. It made our official position as a nation nakedly explicit: we don't care about any number of murdered children, no matter how many, or how young. We want our guns.

We're also willing to forfeit the lives of thousands of school kids every year to car accidents so that we can keep using reasonable transportation to get where we need to go.

We're also willing to forfeit the lives of hundreds or thousands of people every year to stabbings just so that your average, irresponsible citizen is allowed to use sharp objects to cut their food into smaller bites. That's why we have teeth you savages!

When will humans learn that only by encasing ourselves in hard plastic bubbles and disallowing human-to-human contact will we finally be safe? How much freedom is enough? You crazies that insist on people socializing with eachother and risking the sort of violence that can be perpetrated through physical contact are over the top with your liberties. What about the children!?