There is only ""one"" sin that will send you to hell.

[kjw47]

There is only ""one"" sin that will send you to hell. The only sin that will send you to hell is the sin of rejecting God and God's love and forgivness!!!

Get out of the darkness GISMYS--- 1 John 3 is clear on who is a child of God and who is a child of satan--it says---- It is impossible for a child of God to practice even one sin---- this is like a mirror for all. Every one who practices even one sin is not a child of God---- so your opening post is not correct. A practicer of sin = a worker of iniquities) Matt 7:21-23)--- a teacher of darkness may tell all practicers of sin that they are saved--but in the end it is advisable to believe Jesus words before they hear them at judgement.

 

[hobelim]

There is only ""one"" sin that will send you to hell. The only sin that will send you to hell is the sin of rejecting God and God's love and forgivness!!!

Get out of the darkness GISMYS--- 1 John 3 is clear on who is a child of God and who is a child of satan--it says---- It is impossible for a child of God to practice even one sin---- this is like a mirror for all. Every one who practices even one sin is not a child of God---- so your opening post is not correct. A practicer of sin = a worker of iniquities) Matt 7:21-23)--- a teacher of darkness may tell all practicers of sin that they are saved--but in the end it is advisable to believe Jesus words before they hear them at judgement.

Actually, the only one sin that Jesus said cannot be forgiven is to identify a revelation of truth from God as evil, to slander the Holy Spirit.

Every time someone takes the time and trouble to remind GISMS of the truths that he has rejected such as God is One, the law remains in effect forever, a child of God does not sin, Jesus was just a man, etc. and he calls them demon inspired tools and fools of Satan, he is defiantly and deliberately committing that one unforgivable sin.

That's why GISMS cannot refrain from committing every other sin that scripture teaches results in destruction...and no one can get through to him.

"This, he told me, is the curse which goes out over all the land; for by the writing on one side every thief shall be swept clean away and by the writing on the other, every perjurer shall be swept clean away. I have sent it out, the Lord of Hosts has said, and it shall enter the house of the thief and the house of the man who has perjured himself in my name. It shall stay inside that house and demolish it, timbers and stones and all."

 

[hangover]

There is only ""one"" sin that will send you to hell. The only sin that will send you to hell is the sin of rejecting God and God's love and forgivness!!!

Why do you continue to write your own version of the truth?
Matthew 12:31-32
V. 31. Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men; but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men. V. 32. And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of Man, it shall be forgiven him; but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.

Only a tool and fool for satan would think hitler was a believer in Jesus(A JEW) as his lord and savior. TRY TO THINK!

Although Hitler did not practice religion in a churchly sense, he certainly believed in the Bible's God. Raised as Catholic he went to a monastery school and, interestingly, walked everyday past a stone arch which was carved the monastery's coat of arms which included a swastika. As a young boy, Hitler's most ardent goal was to become a priest.
http://www.nobeliefs.com/hitler.htm

 

[GISMYS]

Rejecting God=THE HOLYSPIRIT is blasphhemy against the Holyspirit!!! and the only sin that God will not forgive is the sin of rejecting God and God's love and forgivness.

 

[kjw47]

Rejecting God=THE HOLYSPIRIT is blasphhemy against the Holyspirit!!! and the only sin that God will not forgive is the sin of rejecting God and God's love and forgivness.

Repented sin is forgiven--repentence = the stopping of doing a sin---practiced sin will not be forgiven--Matt 7:23--- believe Jesus.

 

[Avatar4321]

Really? Only one? So, do you think Adolf is up there waiting to greet you at the Pearly Gates?

Not sure that's the best example. I don't know that Adolf accepted the Atonement of Christ.

 

[Dajjal]

There is only ""one"" sin that will send you to hell. The only sin that will send you to hell is the sin of rejecting God and God's love and forgivness!!!

Why do you continue to write your own version of the truth?
Matthew 12:31-32
V. 31. Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men; but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men. V. 32. And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of Man, it shall be forgiven him; but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.

Only a tool and fool for satan would think hitler was a believer in Jesus(A JEW) as his lord and savior. TRY TO THINK!

Although Hitler did not practice religion in a churchly sense, he certainly believed in the Bible's God. Raised as Catholic he went to a monastery school and, interestingly, walked everyday past a stone arch which was carved the monastery's coat of arms which included a swastika. As a young boy, Hitler's most ardent goal was to become a priest.
Hitler's religious beliefs and fanaticism

Hitler claimed that God was behind the Nazi movement at a nuremburg rally. He also had a copy of The secret doctrine by Madmam Blavasky. Himmler was very interested in the occult, and the nazis thought they were knights of a new order.

 

[Avatar4321]

Why do you continue to write your own version of the truth?

The same reason you do. Same reason any honest person would. If you believe something to be true, why would you say otherwise?

If you believed something was true and said something contrary, you'd be lying. Even, ironically, if your lie was completely accurate.

Honesty and lies are highly dependant on what you believe to be true. The truth though is independent of what we believe or dont believe is true.

 

[GISMYS]

There is only ""one"" sin that will send you to hell. The only sin that will send you to hell is the sin of rejecting God and God's love and forgivness!!!

Why do you continue to write your own version of the truth?
Matthew 12:31-32
V. 31. Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men; but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men. V. 32. And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of Man, it shall be forgiven him; but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.

Only a tool and fool for satan would think hitler was a believer in Jesus(A JEW) as his lord and savior. TRY TO THINK!

Although Hitler did not practice religion in a churchly sense, he certainly believed in the Bible's God. Raised as Catholic he went to a monastery school and, interestingly, walked everyday past a stone arch which was carved the monastery's coat of arms which included a swastika. As a young boy, Hitler's most ardent goal was to become a priest.
Hitler's religious beliefs and fanaticism

Hitler claimed that God was behind the Nazi movement at a nuremburg rally. He also had a copy of The secret doctrine by Madmam Blavasky. Himmler was very interested in the occult, and the nazis thought they were knights of a new order.

Why be silly??? Why would you believe anything Hitler ever said? There is plenty of ""proof"" as to what kind of tool of satan Hitler was. WISE UP!!!

 

[hobelim]

Why be silly??? Why would you believe anything Hitler ever said? There is plenty of ""proof"" as to what kind of tool of satan Hitler was. WISE UP!!!

“The anti-Semitism of the new movement (Christian Social movement)
was based on religious ideas instead of racial knowledge.”

[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 3]


“I believe today that I am acting in the sense of the Almighty
Creator. By warding off the Jews I am fighting for the Lord’s work.”

[Adolph Hitler, Speech, Reichstag, 1936]


“I have followed [the Church] in giving our party program the
character of unalterable finality, like the Creed. The Church has
never allowed the Creed to be interfered with. It is fifteen hundred
years since it was formulated, but every suggestion for its
amendment, every logical criticism, or attack on it, has been
rejected. The Church has realized that anything and everything can be
built up on a document of that sort, no matter how contradictory or
irreconcilable with it. The faithful will swallow it whole, so long
as logical reasoning is never allowed to be brought to bear on it.”

[Adolf Hitler, from Rauschning, _The Voice of Destruction_, pp. 239-40]


“My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a
fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded
by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and
summoned men to fight against them and who, God’s truth! was greatest
not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian
and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord
at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the
Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was his fight
against the Jewish poison. Today, after two thousand years, with
deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact
that it was for this that He had to shed his blood upon the Cross. As
a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have
the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice… And if there is
anything which could demonstrate that we are acting rightly, it is
the distress that daily grows. For as a Christian I have also a duty
to my own people. And when I look on my people I see them work and
work and toil and labor, and at the end of the week they have only
for their wages wretchedness and misery. When I go out in the morning
and see these men standing in their queues and look into their
pinched faces, then I believe I would be no Christian, but a very
devil, if I felt no pity for them, if I did not, as did our Lord two
thousand years ago, turn against those by whom today this poor people
are plundered and exposed.”

[Adolf Hitler, speech in Munich on April 12, 1922, countering a
political opponent, Count Lerchenfeld, who opposed antisemitism on
his personal Christian feelings. Published in "My New Order", quoted
in Freethought Today April 1990]


“I believe today that my conduct is in accordance with the will of
the Almighty Creator.”

[Adolph Hitler, _Mein Kampf_, pp. 46]


“What we have to fight for…is the freedom and independence of the
fatherland, so that our people may be enabled to fulfill the mission
assigned to it by the Creator.”

[Adolph Hitler, _Mein Kampf_, pp. 125]


“This human world of ours would be inconceivable without the
practical existence of a religious belief.”

[Adolph Hitler, _Mein Kampf_, pp.152]


“And the founder of Christianity made no secret indeed of his
estimation of the Jewish people. When He found it necessary, He drove
those enemies of the human race out of the Temple of God.”

[Adolph Hitler, _Mein Kampf_, pp.174]


“Catholics and Protestants are fighting with one another… while the
enemy of Aryan humanity and all Christendom is laughing up his sleeve.”

[Adolph Hitler, _Mein Kampf_, pp.309]


“I am now as before a Catholic and will always remain so”

[Adolph Hitler, to Gen. Gerhard Engel, 1941]


“Any violence which does not spring from a spiritual base, will be
wavering and uncertain. It lacks the stability which can only rest in
a fanatical outlook.”

[Adolph Hitler, _Mein Kampf_, p. 171]


“I had excellent opportunity to intoxicate myself with the solemn
splendor of the brilliant church festivals. As was only natural, the
abbot seemed to me, as the village priest had once seemed to my
father, the highest and most desirable ideal.”

[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 1]


“I was not in agreement with the sharp anti-Semitic tone, but from
time to time I read arguments which gave me some food for thought. At
all events, these occasions slowly made me acquainted with the man
and the movement, which in those days guided Vienna’s destinies: Dr.
Karl Lueger and the Christian Social Party.”

[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 2]


“…the unprecedented rise of the Christian Social Party… was to
assume the deepest significance for me as a classical object of study.”

[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 3]


“As long as leadership from above was not lacking, the people
fulfilled their duty and obligation overwhelmingly. Whether
Protestant pastor or Catholic priest, both together and particularly
at the first flare, there really existed in both camps but a single
holy German Reich, for whose existence and future each man turned to
his own heaven.”

[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 3]


“Political parties has nothing to do with religious problems, as long
as these are not alien to the nation, undermining the morals and
ethics of the race; just as religion cannot be amalgamated with the
scheming of political parties.”

[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 3]


“For the political leader the religious doctrines and institutions of
his people must always remain inviolable; or else has no right to be
in politics, but should become a reformer, if he has what it takes!

[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 3]


“In nearly all the matters in which the Pan-German movement was
wanting, the attitude of the Christian Social Party was correct and
well-planned.”

[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 3]


“It [Christian Social Party] recognized the value of large-scale
propaganda and was a virtuoso in influencing the psychological
instincts of the broad masses of its adherents.”

[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 3]


“If Dr. Karl Lueger had lived in Germany, he would have been ranked
among the great minds of our people.”

[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 3, about the leader of
the Christian Social movement]


“Even today I am not ashamed to say that, overpowered by stormy
enthusiasm, I fell down on my knees and thanked Heaven from an
overflowing heart for granting me the good fortune of being permitted
to live at this time.”

[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 5]


“I had so often sung ‘Deutschland u:ber Alles’ and shouted ‘Heil’ at
the top of my lungs, that it seemed to me almost a belated act of
grace to be allowed to stand as a witness in the divine court of the
eternal judge and proclaim the sincerity of this conviction.”

[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 5]


“Only in the steady and constant application of force lies the very
first prerequisite for success. This persistence, however, can always
and only arise from a definite spiritual conviction. Any violence
which does not spring from a firm, spiritual base, will be wavering
and uncertain.”

[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 5]


“I soon realized that the correct use of propaganda is a true art
which has remained practically unknown to the bourgeois parties. Only
the Christian- Social movement, especially in Lueger’s time achieved
a certain virtuosity on this instrument, to which it owed many of its
success.”

[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 6]


“Once again the songs of the fatherland roared to the heavens along
the endless marching columns, and for the last time the Lord’s grace
smiled on His ungrateful children.”

[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 7, reflecting on World
War I]


“The more abstractly correct and hence powerful this idea will be,
the more impossible remains its complete fulfillment as long as it
continues to depend on human beings… If this were not so, the
founders of religion could not be counted among the greatest men of
this earth… In its workings, even the religion of love is only the
weak reflection of the will of its exalted founder; its significance,
however, lies in the direction which it attempted to give to a
universal human development of culture, ethics, and morality.”

[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 8]


“To them belong, not only the truly great statesmen, but all other
great reformers as well. Beside Frederick the Great stands Martin
Luther as well as Richard Wagner.”

[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 8]


“The fight against syphilis demands a fight against prostitution,
against prejudices, old habits, against previous conceptions, general
views among them not least the false prudery of certain circles. The
first prerequisite for even the moral right to combat these things is
the facilitation of earlier marriage for the coming generation. In
late marriage alone lies the compulsion to retain an institution
which, twist and turn as you like, is and remains a disgrace to
humanity, an institution which is damned ill-suited to a being who
with his usual modesty likes to regard himself as the ‘image’ of God.”

[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 10]


“Parallel to the training of the body a struggle against the
poisoning of the soul must begin. Our whole public life today is like
a hothouse for sexual ideas and simulations. Just look at the bill of
fare served up in our movies, vaudeville and theaters, and you will
hardly be able to deny that this is not the right kind of food,
particularly for the youth…Theater, art, literature, cinema, press,
posters, and window displays must be cleansed of all manifestations
of our rotting world and placed in the service of a moral, political,
and cultural idea.”

[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 10, echoing the Cultural
Warfare rhetoric of the Religious Right]


“But if out of smugness, or even cowardice, this battle is not fought
to its end, then take a look at the peoples five hundred years from
now. I think you will find but few images of God, unless you want to
profane the Almighty.”

[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 10]


“While both denominations maintain missions in Asia and Africa in
order to win new followers for their doctrine– an activity which can
boast but very modest success compared to the advance of the
Mohammedan faith in particular– right here in Europe they lose
millions and millions of inward adherents who either are alien to all
religious life or simply go their own ways. The consequences,
particularly from a moral point of view, are not favorable.”

[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 10]


“The great masses of people do not consist of philosophers; precisely
for the masses, faith is often the sole foundation of a moral
attitude. The various substitutes have not proved so successful from
the standpoint of results that they could be regarded as a useful
replacement for previous religious creeds. But if religious doctrine
and faith are really to embrace the broad masses, the unconditional
authority of the content of this faith is the foundation of all
efficacy.”

[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 10]


“Due to his own original special nature, the Jew cannot possess a
religious institution, if for no other reason because he lacks
idealism in any form, and hence belief in a hereafter is absolutely
foreign to him. And a religion in the Aryan sense cannot be imagined
which lacks the conviction of survival after death in some form.
Indeed, the Talmud is not a book to prepare a man for the hereafter,
but only for a practical and profitable life in this world.”

[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 11]


“The best characterization is provided by the product of this
religious education, the Jew himself. His life is only of this world,
and his spirit is inwardly as alien to true Christianity as his
nature two thousand years previous was to the great founder of the
new doctrine. Of course, the latter made no secret of his attitude
toward the Jewish people, and when necessary he even took the whip to
drive from the temple of the Lord this adversary of all humanity, who
then as always saw in religion nothing but an instrument for his
business existence. In return, Christ was nailed to the cross, while
our present-day party Christians debase themselves to begging for
Jewish votes at elections and later try to arrange political swindles
with atheistic Jewish parties– and this against their own nation.”

[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 11]


“….the personification of the devil as the symbol of all evil
assumes the living shape of the Jew.”

[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 11, precisely echoing
Martin Luther's teachings]


“Faith is harder to shake than knowledge, love succumbs less to
change than respect, hate is more enduring than aversion, and the
impetus to the mightiest upheavals on this earth has at all times
consisted less in a scientific knowledge dominating the masses than
in a fanaticism which inspired them and sometimes in a hysteria which
drove them forward.”

[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf" Vol. 1 Chapter 12]


“The greatness of every mighty organization embodying an idea in this
world lies in the religious fanaticism and intolerance with which,
fanatically convinced of its own right, it intolerantly imposes its
will against all others.”

[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf" Vol. 1 Chapter 12]


“The greatness of Christianity did not lie in attempted negotiations
for compromise with any similar philosophical opinions in the ancient
world, but in its inexorable fanaticism in preaching and fighting for
its own doctrine.”

[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf" Vol. 1 Chapter 12]


“All in all, this whole period of winter 1919-20 was a single
struggle to strengthen confidence in the victorious might of the
young movement and raise it to that fanaticism of faith which can
move mountains.”

[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf" Vol. 1 Chapter 12]


“Thus inwardly armed with confidence in God and the unshakable
stupidity of the voting citizenry, the politicians can begin the
fight for the ‘remaking’ of the Reich as they call it.”

[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf" Vol. 2 Chapter 1]


“Of course, even the general designation ‘religious’ includes various
basic ideas or convictions, for example, the indestructibility of the
soul, the eternity of its existence, the existence of a higher being,
etc. But all these ideas, regardless of how convincing they may be
for the individual, are submitted to the critical examination of this
individual and hence to a fluctuating affirmation or negation until
emotional divination or knowledge assumes the binding force of
apodictic faith. This, above all, is the fighting factor which makes
a breach and opens the way for the recognition of basic religious
views.”

[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf" Vol. 2 Chapter 1]


“Anyone who dares to lay hands on the highest image of the Lord
commits sacrilege against the benevolent creator of this miracle and
contributes to the expulsion from paradise.”

[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf" Vol. 2 Chapter 1]


“A folkish state must therefore begin by raising marriage from the
level of a continuous defilement of the race, and give it the
consecration of an institution which is called upon to produce images
of the Lord and not monstrosities halfway between man and ape.”

[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf" Vol. 2 Chapter 2]


“It would be more in keeping with the intention of the noblest man in
this world if our two Christian churches, instead of annoying Negroes
with missions which they neither desire nor understand, would kindly,
but in all seriousness, teach our European humanity that where
parents are not healthy it is a deed pleasing to God to take pity on
a poor little healthy orphan child and give him father and mother,
than themselves to give birth to a sick child who will only bring
unhappiness and suffering on himself and the rest of the world.”

[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf" Vol. 2 Chapter 2]


“That this is possible may not be denied in a world where hundreds
and hundreds of thousands of people voluntarily submit to celibacy,
obligated and bound by nothing except the injunction of the Church.
Should the same renunciation not be possible if this injunction is
replaced by the admonition finally to put an end to the constant and
continuous original sin of racial poisoning, and to give the Almighty
Creator beings such as He Himself created?”

[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf" Vol. 2 Chapter 2]


“For the greatest revolutionary changes on this earth would not have
been thinkable if their motive force, instead of fanatical, yes,
hysterical passion, had been merely the bourgeois virtues of law and
order.”

[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf" Vol. 2 Chapter 2]


“It doesn’t dawn on this depraved bourgeois world that this is
positively a sin against all reason; that it is criminal lunacy to
keep on drilling a born half-ape until people think they have made a
lawyer out of him, while millions of members of the highest culture-
race must remain in entirely unworthy positions; that it is a sin
against the will of the Eternal Creator if His most gifted beings by
the hundreds and hundreds of thousands are allowed to degenerate in
the present proletarian morass, while Hottentots and Zulu Kaffirs are
trained for intellectual professions.”

[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf" Vol. 2 Chapter 2]


“It may be that today gold has become the exclusive ruler of life,
but the time will come when man will again bow down before a higher
god.”

[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf" Vol. 2 Chapter 2]


“Christianity could not content itself with building up its own
altar; it was absolutely forced to undertake the destruction of the
heathen altars. Only from this fanatical intolerance could its
apodictic faith take form; this intolerance is, in fact, its absolute
presupposition.”

[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf" Vol. 2 Chapter 5]


“For how shall we fill people with blind faith in the correctness of
a doctrine, if we ourselves spread uncertainty and doubt by constant
changes in its outward structure? …Here, too, we can learn by the
example of the Catholic Church. Though its doctrinal edifice, and in
part quite superfluously, comes into collision with exact science and
research, it is none the less unwilling to sacrifice so much as one
little syllable of its dogmas… it is only such dogmas which lend to
the whole body the character of a faith.”

[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf" Vol. 2 Chapter 5]


“The folkish-minded man, in particular, has the sacred duty, each in
his own denomination, of making people stop just talking
superficially of God’s will, and actually fulfill God’s will, and not
let God’s word be desecrated. For God’s will gave men their form,
their essence and their abilities. Anyone who destroys His work is
declaring war on the Lord’s creation, the divine will.”

[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf" Vol. 2 Chapter 10]

 

[GISMYS]

ROFLMAO!!! You must have no idea what a real believer is if you think HITLER was a christian!!! wise up!!!

 

[hobelim]

ROFLMAO!!! You must have no idea what a real believer is if you think HITLER was a christian!!! wise up!!!

I hate to break the news to you sparky but his claims of being a Christian were about as believable as your claims of being saved..

No one who brazenly defies the commands of God, desecrates the teachings of Jesus and perjures himself in Gods name as a matter of religious devotion will ever enter the kingdom of Heaven either in this world or the next.

 

[The Irish Ram]

Really? Only one? So, do you think Adolf is up there waiting to greet you at the Pearly Gates?

What makes you think Hitler embraced the God of Abraham? I doubt you'll see Hitler there, but if he was repentant, that is, if he truly mourned having sinned, and asked for forgiveness, then yes, he will be forgiven.
Christ paid for Hitler's sin to give him the opportunity to be salvaged, just like he did for you and me. God's grace is more powerful than any sin ever committed. But I doubt Hitler accepted the gift. We'll know when we get there.

And that brings us back to the topic.
The way to stay out of hell is to accept the gift of salvation< get out of hell because of Christ clause, that Jesus has offered us. The only way to get your name written in the book of life, is by accepting that Christ died in our place, so that we could live in His place. And have a grateful heart for the gift that is Jesus, the Christ.

That we will stumble in our walk is expected and provision was made concerning our shortcomings, and backsliding. Those events were covered on the cross, out of love.
And once you are bathed clean by the blood of Christ, you are cleaned by Christ, and you need only wash your feet. ( turn from your sin, and return to the highest level.)

Blaspheming the Holy Spirit is a separate matter and something a Christian can't do very easily if at all. That is because a Christan knows that Christ was powered by the Holy Spirit of God.
Jesus accused the Pharisees of blaspheming the Holy Spirit. They did so by watching Christ perform miracles and then crediting His power to Satan instead of the Holy Spirit of God.

Here is the explanation to what we refer to as blaspheming the Holy Spirit and what prompted it:



Matthew 12:22 Then was brought unto him one possessed with a devil , blind , and dumb: and he healed him, insomuch that the blind and dumb both spake and saw.

Matthew 12:23 And all the people were amazed, and said, Is not this the son of David?

Matthew 12:24 But when the Pharisees heard it, they said, This fellow doth not cast out devils, but by Beelzebub the prince of the devils. < blasphemy

Matthew 12:25 And Jesus knew their thoughts, and said unto them, Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation ; and every city or house divided against itself shall not stand:

Matthew 12:26 And if Satan cast out Satan, he is divided against himself; how shall then his kingdom stand?

Matthew 12:27 And if I by Beelzebub cast out devils , by whom do your children cast them out? Therefore they shall be your judges .

Matthew 12:28 But if I cast out devils by the Spirit of God , then the kingdom of God is come unto you.

Matthew 12:29 Or else how can one enter into a strong man's house, and spoil his goods, except he first bind the strong man? and then he will spoil his house.

Matthew 12:30 He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathereth not with me scattereth abroad.

Matthew 12:31 Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.

Matthew 12:32 And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost , it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.

So, don't accuse the work of the Holy Spirit as actually being the work of Satan and you're good to go on the blasphemy front. (Living for Christ really isn't as hard as you think.)

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

Really? Only one? So, do you think Adolf is up there waiting to greet you at the Pearly Gates?

What makes you think Hitler embraced the God of Abraham? I doubt you'll see Hitler there, but if he was repentant, that is, if he truly mourned having sinned, and asked for forgiveness, then yes, he will be forgiven.
Christ paid for Hitler's sin to give him the opportunity to be salvaged, just like he did for you and me. God's grace is more powerful than any sin ever committed. But I doubt Hitler accepted the gift. We'll know when we get there.

And that brings us back to the topic.
The way to stay out of hell is to accept the gift of salvation< get out of hell because of Christ clause, that Jesus has offered us. The only way to get your name written in the book of life, is by accepting that Christ died in our place, so that we could live in His place. And have a grateful heart for the gift that is Christ.

That we will stumble in our walk is expected and provision was made concerning our shortcomings, and backsliding. Those events were covered on the cross, out of love.
And once you are bathed clean by the blood of Christ, you are cleaned by Christ, and you need only wash your feet. ( turn from your sin, and return to the highest level.)

Blaspheming the Holy Spirit is a separate matter and something a Christian can't do very easily if at all. That is because a Christan knows that Christ was powered by the Holy Spirit of God.
Jesus accused the Pharisees of blaspheming the Holy Spirit. They did so by watching Christ perform miracles and then crediting His power to Satan instead of the Holy Spirit of God.

Here is the explanation to what we refer to as blaspheming the Holy Spirit and what prompted it:



Matthew 12:22 Then was brought unto him one possessed with a devil , blind , and dumb: and he healed him, insomuch that the blind and dumb both spake and saw.

Matthew 12:23 And all the people were amazed, and said, Is not this the son of David?

Matthew 12:24 But when the Pharisees heard it, they said, This fellow doth not cast out devils, but by Beelzebub the prince of the devils. < blasphemy

Matthew 12:25 And Jesus knew their thoughts, and said unto them, Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation ; and every city or house divided against itself shall not stand:

Matthew 12:26 And if Satan cast out Satan, he is divided against himself; how shall then his kingdom stand?

Matthew 12:27 And if I by Beelzebub cast out devils , by whom do your children cast them out? Therefore they shall be your judges .

Matthew 12:28 But if I cast out devils by the Spirit of God , then the kingdom of God is come unto you.

Matthew 12:29 Or else how can one enter into a strong man's house, and spoil his goods, except he first bind the strong man? and then he will spoil his house.

Matthew 12:30 He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathereth not with me scattereth abroad.

Matthew 12:31 Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.

Matthew 12:32 And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost , it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.

So, don't say that the Holy Spirit is actually Satan and you're good to go on the blasphemy front.

A Bible that is falling apart belongs to someone who is not.

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Last edited by The Irish Ram; Today at 02:36 PM.

That is a great saying, Irish Ram. Maybe you could get across to GISMY his delivery is not coming across well. He won't listen to others about his calling people pervert, stupid, etc. Can you explain to him why he shouldn't continue to do that?

 

[The Irish Ram]

I think we are confusing zeal with a defense mechanism. So, I guess I'd have to do 2 things. Convince Gismy to treat the people he's hoping to reach like precious cargo.
A good shepherd feeds his sheep on loving kindness and tenderness, while he guides them. His rod and staff are used to defend the sheep, not to punish the sheep with.

And yet I am reminded of all the ways John the Baptist could have conveyed his message to the King, instead of screaming it from the bowels of the dungeon, and God never silenced him once. I love zeal.
But I do believe that a combination of zeal and brotherly love, trumps zeal and force if one is looking to impart wisdom and understanding.

But love is a two way street.
I think Gis would be tempted to tear down the defensive wall that he stands behind to throw rocks, if it wasn't also necessary to prevent him from being hit by so many rocks.

Maybe the scripture that works the best for all of us would be:

Proverbs 15: 1- 2
A soft answer turneth away wrath: but grievous words stir up anger.
He that has knowledge, is to use it aright, for the good of others.

My Dad would tell Gis, that you catch more bees with honey...........
and he'd tell the rest of us to be nice.

 

[GISMYS]

I think we are confusing zeal with a defense mechanism. So, I guess I'd have to do 2 things. Convince Gismy to treat the people he's hoping to reach like precious cargo.
A good shepherd feeds his sheep on loving kindness and tenderness, while he guides them. His rod and staff are used to defend the sheep, not to punish the sheep with.

And yet I am reminded of all the ways John the Baptist could have conveyed his message to the King, instead of screaming it from the bowels of the dungeon, and God never silenced him once. I love zeal.
But I do believe that a combination of zeal and brotherly love, trumps zeal and force if one is looking to impart wisdom and understanding.

But love is a two way street.
I think Gis would be tempted to tear down the defensive wall that he stands behind to throw rocks, if it wasn't also necessary to prevent him from being hit by so many rocks.

Maybe the scripture that works the best for all of us would be:

Proverbs 15: 1- 2
A soft answer turneth away wrath: but grievous words stir up anger.
He that has knowledge, is to use it aright, for the good of others.

My Dad would tell Gis, that you catch more bees with honey...........
and he'd tell the rest of us to be nice.

Time is far far too short to baby those blinded by satan and used as his tools and played for fools!!

 

[rightwinger]

Actually, the one sin is excessive masterbation


But ....What the hell

 

[syrenn]

Actually, the one sin is excessive masterbation


But ....What the hell

I thought the punishment for that was hairy palms....not hell.

 

[earlycuyler]

There is only ""one"" sin that will send you to hell. The only sin that will send you to hell is the sin of rejecting God and God's love and forgivness!!!

So i guess the 10 commandments are all bullshit....

good to know.

The 10 commandments are law, and the law is perfect in every way. Humans are not and as such we are dead in the law. This is why Christians are called borne again, because we were dead in sin (because of the law) but we were borne again in Christ. See ? Borne again Christian. The OP of this thread as well intentioned as he may be needs to go back and do some praying and reading. I suggest he start with Matthew and read all the way through to Romans. Good stuff that any Christian trying to spread the good news may need to consider before posting such things as they did. Oh, and I forgot, all sin is sin. Period. None are greater then any other except taking the lords name in vane. That's backed by scripture. Anyway, have a good one all.

 

[earlycuyler]

I think we are confusing zeal with a defense mechanism. So, I guess I'd have to do 2 things. Convince Gismy to treat the people he's hoping to reach like precious cargo.
A good shepherd feeds his sheep on loving kindness and tenderness, while he guides them. His rod and staff are used to defend the sheep, not to punish the sheep with.

And yet I am reminded of all the ways John the Baptist could have conveyed his message to the King, instead of screaming it from the bowels of the dungeon, and God never silenced him once. I love zeal.
But I do believe that a combination of zeal and brotherly love, trumps zeal and force if one is looking to impart wisdom and understanding.

But love is a two way street.
I think Gis would be tempted to tear down the defensive wall that he stands behind to throw rocks, if it wasn't also necessary to prevent him from being hit by so many rocks.

Maybe the scripture that works the best for all of us would be:

Proverbs 15: 1- 2
A soft answer turneth away wrath: but grievous words stir up anger.
He that has knowledge, is to use it aright, for the good of others.

My Dad would tell Gis, that you catch more bees with honey...........
and he'd tell the rest of us to be nice.

Time is far far too short to baby those blinded by satan and used as his tools and played for fools!!

1 Corinthians 13:4-8
New King James Version (NKJV)
4 Love suffers long and is kind; love does not envy; love does not parade itself, is not puffed up; 5 does not behave rudely, does not seek its own, is not provoked, thinks no evil; 6 does not rejoice in iniquity, but rejoices in the truth; 7 bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.