Theses Senators who voted against Betsy DeVos, send their kids to private schools, not public....

[Markle]

Do you understand the term "Representative?" Representatives are supposed to vote and do things with the best interests of their constituents in mind, not what they do with their own kids. If they can afford to pay for a private school, and they want to send their kids to a private school, more power to them. This is a free country and that is their right to be able to do so. However, if they think it is in the best interests of their constituents NOT to have a voucher program that will hurt public schools which most of the kids of the people they represent attend... then they made the right choice.

So you are happy to discriminate against the low and low-middle income parents? Why should they not get a choice of schools?

 

[Markle]

Yes...the democrats will condemn minority kids to hell holes for schools.......and happily send their own kids to private schools...from the salaries we pay them....

Well, well, well........the fake indian princess sent her kids to private schools....

Senators Opposed Vouchers Backer DeVos, Send THEIR Kids To Posh Private School

Sen. Al Franken, a Democrat representing Minnesota who was once an unfunny comedian with bit parts on “Saturday Night Live,” has two children who attend The Dalton School in New York City — 1,018 miles from Minneapolis and 226 miles from Washington, D.C.

The cost of a single year of tuition for students in kindergarten through 12th grade at Dalton is $44,640. This amount, which represents slightly more than the average household income in the state of Alabama, is “among the lowest of our peer schools,” the posh Upper East Side school trumpets. On Friday, lunch at Dalton scrumptiously featured sustainable green tea salmon, anasazi bean salad, fresh organic papaya yogurt and a pasta bar with both marinara sauce and puttanesca sauce.

Dalton is most famous because its administration called off this year’s ice-skating party after a large group of parents refused to send their children to the Trump Wollman Rink in Central Park for political reasons. (RELATED: ‘Liberal Moms’ Make Fancypants Manhattan Prep School Cancel Ice Skating Party At Trump Rink)

Sen. Elizabeth Warren, a Democrat representing Massachusetts, has a granddaughter who rubs shoulders with the children of movie stars at the trendy Harvard-Westlake School in Los Angeles, California. Tuition at Harvard-Westlake costs $35,900 each year. There’s also a $2,000 fee for new students.

Harvard-Westlake offers a bevy of amazing opportunities for students including study-abroad programs in Spain, France, China, Italy and India. There’s also the Mountain School, “an independent semester program that provides high school juniors the opportunity to live and work on an organic farm in rural Vermont.”

Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse, a Democrat representing Rhode Island and himself a private boarding school product, has two children. His daughter attended the Wheeler School, a coed day school in Providence where a single year of tuition for sixth grade through 12th grade currently costs $35,215.

Sixth graders at Wheeler spend a segment of the school year romping around at a 120-acre farm owned by the school. The “unique, place-based experience” includes “vigorous scientific leaf studies” and “examinations of poetry, art, and mathematical models deepened through the context of” the school-owned farm.

Whitehouse, who has owned stock in a for-profit charter school company, also sent his son to a St. George’s School, a private boarding school in a gorgeous hamlet on the seaside.

Annual tuition at St. George’s is currently $39,900. Boarding students pay $58,000.

St. George’s offers a special program which allows students to sail around the world for several week on a 69-foot sailboat “traveling in a grand loop from Rhode Island across to the Azores and Spain, through the Mediterranean to Italy and Greece, back to the Canary Islands and Puerto Rico.”

Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand, a Democrat representing New York and herself an alumna of the tony Emma Willard School, sends her two school-age children to Capitol Hill Day School, according to The Washington Post. Tuition at the private, progressive bastion currently runs $30,300.00 per year for sixth through eighth grades, $28,700.00 per year for first through fifth grades and $28,000.00 per year for preschoolers.

Instruction in French and Spanish begins in preschool at Capitol Hill Day School. Also, performing arts is a big deal. There are “operas based on children’s books,” for example, and the sixth graders put on a musical theater production.

Sen. Richard Blumenthal, a Democrat representing Connecticut, sent one of his four children to Brunswick School, a private, all-boys day school in Greenwich, according to the Connecticut Post. A year of high school tuition at Brunswick currently costs $40,450. Tuition for preschoolers costs $30,930 per year.

On Tuesday, grade school kids at Brunswick will enjoy a delicious lunch of barbecue antibiotic-free chicken sandwiches on Texas rolls.

Blumenthal sent another one of his kids to Greenwich Academy, an all-girls day school where high school tuition currently runs $41,890. A single year of prekindergarten at the private institution costs $37,470.

Tuesday’s lunch at Greenwich Academy includes potato leek soup, baked macaroni and cheese and braised red cabbage.

Sen. Maggie Hassan, a Democrat representing New Hampshire, has two children. Her daughter attended Phillips Exeter Academy, one of the most notable fancypants private schools in the United States. Hassan’s husband, Thomas, was the principal of Phillips Exeter at the time. The cost for a year of tuition and fees at Phillips Exeter is currently $37,875. Boarding students pay $48,550.

The lunch menu at Phillips Exeter features “authentic recipes from around the world” and “more than 5,000 recipes in regular rotation.” Dinner selections for boarders include “grilled steak tips, fettuccine alfredo, palak paneer or quinoa with nuts.” Also, all dining staffers — “from chefs to dishwashers” receive “training in food allergens.”

Sen. Bob Casey, a Democrat representing Pennsylvania, sent his daughters to Scranton Preparatory School, a private Jesuit school where a year of tuition costs $13,400. Casey is also an alumnus of Scranton Prep.

Every classroom at Scranton Prep offers cutting-edge technology and contains “the very latest in interactive instructional technology.” There’s also a very impressive 34,000-square-foot building dedicated to the arts and sciences which features “state-of-the-art science classrooms and laboratories as well as a magnificent theater that seats 875 people.”



Read more: Senators Opposed Vouchers Backer DeVos, Send THEIR Kids To Posh Private School

They pay.

That s the difference dumbass.

They aren't whining & wanting me to pay.

DeVos wants me to pay for your sniveling brat to go to private school. I say fuck that.

I pay for public school.

Use it or lose it.

Why should low and low-middle income parents be forced into a failing school? Shouldn't they be able to take the money poured into a failed school and attend a better school for their children?

 

[Markle]

Then you are being hypocritical towards these Senators....who are NOT expecting to mooch off of government to get a voucher. You have kids, it's your call as to which kind of school to send them to. Can't afford the school of your choice.....why did you have kids then?

Charter schools do not require vouchers. DeVos supports charters as an option. Next faux outrage please.

Charter schools still reduce available funding for public schools, and they still get to choose which kids get in! Think they will pick the poor black child from the inner city?

Charter Schools are different from private schools in that they are public schools but operate under slightly different rules and they are accountable to the state. They do not charge tuition. The may be funded completely by the state or they be may be funded in part or whole through other sources, depending on state law. They can be selective but unlike private schools they must be able to justify their selection process. Also unlike private schools their tools for performance measurement must be comparable with public schools so parents can make valid comparisons.

Where they differ from regular public schools is that they are free from most rules concerning management of the school. They can use their on criteria for choosing staff, creating personnel policies, setting salaries, and benefits. The staff is free to use different teaching methods and tools. They have greater freedom in setting curriculum, however this varies with the type of charter school and state laws.

Many charter schools are specialized. I have seen schools that limit their curriculum or student population to, fine arts, science, gifted students, special ed students, the disabled, the homeless, etc. However, there are many charters that teach the same curriculum as regular public schools without limiting the type of enrollment.

IMHO, charter schools are the best bet for school choice.

*yaen*

You are the whiniest little trumpster snowflake

My point is that Charter Schools are a better option for many parents than issuing vouchers for private schools. Vouchers have been a disaster.

I visited and then volunteered in a Charter School for homeless kids and I think they were doing a hell of a good job. I know not all charter schools have worked out but I believe there is place for them.

Vouchers have been a disaster.

NOT true. It has worked terrifically. Petulant former President Barack Hussein Obama HALTED them when he signed his failed stimulus. If a school district was to get funds from the stimulus, they had to halt their voucher systems. That took many low-income children out of highly successful private schools.

 

[Markle]

There is no mandate for those private schools to take in ALL or any, of these kids in public school, and if there were, the private schools would become over crowded...

How is that a problem? Wouldn't that be the choice of the school? If they had too many applicants, could they not add onto their facility?

 

[Care4all]

There is no mandate for those private schools to take in ALL or any, of these kids in public school, and if there were, the private schools would become over crowded...

How is that a problem? Wouldn't that be the choice of the school? If they had too many applicants, could they not add onto their facility?

Sure, just don't ask tax payers to pay for it...

 

[Markle]

There is no mandate for those private schools to take in ALL or any, of these kids in public school, and if there were, the private schools would become over crowded...

That is the thing about the private economy that you liberals, with all due respect, dont seem to understand.

When the government has a shortage of resources, they ration and force people to share.

When the private sector is short on resources, they grow the pie so that they can make profits from the larger market. I.e. the private schools will expand to take in the extra demand.

Two things I would like to see school vouchers have and I dont see anyone discussing them.

1. Any requirement to meet federal public school standards must exempt private schools or else the private schools will merely become private versions of the very bad public school system. They must be allowed to do their own thing without Federali interference.

2. Vouchers should be larger to cover the extra funding and needs for special needs students, and I dont see that anywhere. If our law makers over look this need, the schools will prefer normal students who have no additional expense and turn away special needs students. This should not be allowed legally nor encouraged financially.

Perhaps that's the best use of government run schools. To handle, as best as possible, students who don't want to be in school, need special attention, special education needs and so on.

 

[Markle]

Children do better in schools taught by union teachers than schools taught by the cheapest available teacher

National Education Association General Counsel Bob Chanin stated in July 2009.

Chanin: "It is not because we care about children. And it is not because we have a vision of a great public school for every child. NEA and its affiliates are effective advocates because we have power. And we have power because there are more than 3.2 million people who are willing to pay us hundreds of millions of dollars in dues...."



Says it all, does it not?

 

[Markle]

There is no mandate for those private schools to take in ALL or any, of these kids in public school, and if there were, the private schools would become over crowded...

How is that a problem? Wouldn't that be the choice of the school? If they had too many applicants, could they not add onto their facility?

Sure, just don't ask tax payers to pay for it...

Children do better in schools taught by union teachers than schools taught by the cheapest available teacher

Sure, just don't ask tax payers to pay for it...

How is it better that you ARE paying for failed government schools?

 

[2aguy]

There is no mandate for those private schools to take in ALL or any, of these kids in public school, and if there were, the private schools would become over crowded...

How is that a problem? Wouldn't that be the choice of the school? If they had too many applicants, could they not add onto their facility?

Sure, just don't ask tax payers to pay for it...

But you want tax payers to pay for crap schools that don't educate children...? What sense is there in that?

 

[bodecea]

There is no mandate for those private schools to take in ALL or any, of these kids in public school, and if there were, the private schools would become over crowded...

That is the thing about the private economy that you liberals, with all due respect, dont seem to understand.

When the government has a shortage of resources, they ration and force people to share.

When the private sector is short on resources, they grow the pie so that they can make profits from the larger market. I.e. the private schools will expand to take in the extra demand.

Two things I would like to see school vouchers have and I dont see anyone discussing them.

1. Any requirement to meet federal public school standards must exempt private schools or else the private schools will merely become private versions of the very bad public school system. They must be allowed to do their own thing without Federali interference.

2. Vouchers should be larger to cover the extra funding and needs for special needs students, and I dont see that anywhere. If our law makers over look this need, the schools will prefer normal students who have no additional expense and turn away special needs students. This should not be allowed legally nor encouraged financially.

Perhaps that's the best use of government run schools. To handle, as best as possible, students who don't want to be in school, need special attention, special education needs and so on.

How about that be the job of the voucher schools.

 

[Markle]

How are the unions in the way? Point that out to us.

National Education Association General Counsel Bob Chanin stated in July 2009.

Chanin: "It is not because we care about children. And it is not because we have a vision of a great public school for every child. NEA and its affiliates are effective advocates because we have power. And we have power because there are more than 3.2 million people who are willing to pay us hundreds of millions of dollars in dues...."



Says it all, does it not?

 

[Markle]

Perhaps that's the best use of government run schools. To handle, as best as possible, students who don't want to be in school, need special attention, special education needs and so on.

How about that be the job of the voucher schools.

It is not a "voucher school". It is a private school which accepts a voucher in full or partial payment for their tuition.

 

[2aguy]

There is no mandate for those private schools to take in ALL or any, of these kids in public school, and if there were, the private schools would become over crowded...

That is the thing about the private economy that you liberals, with all due respect, dont seem to understand.

When the government has a shortage of resources, they ration and force people to share.

When the private sector is short on resources, they grow the pie so that they can make profits from the larger market. I.e. the private schools will expand to take in the extra demand.

Two things I would like to see school vouchers have and I dont see anyone discussing them.

1. Any requirement to meet federal public school standards must exempt private schools or else the private schools will merely become private versions of the very bad public school system. They must be allowed to do their own thing without Federali interference.

2. Vouchers should be larger to cover the extra funding and needs for special needs students, and I dont see that anywhere. If our law makers over look this need, the schools will prefer normal students who have no additional expense and turn away special needs students. This should not be allowed legally nor encouraged financially.

Perhaps that's the best use of government run schools. To handle, as best as possible, students who don't want to be in school, need special attention, special education needs and so on.

How about that be the job of the voucher schools.

Yep....they will do that too.....the vouchers for problem kids will be just as valuable to new schools as the vouchers of the other kids...and those who specialize in helping troubled kids can now open schools devoted to helping them...and they will be able to keep actually doing it.....rather than warehousing these kids in public schools who don't care about them and simply see them as discipline problems....

You guys still don't understand how competition works...and how giving the parents the money, and freedom to choose schools increases options, it doesn't decrease them the way the government controlled education monopoly does...

 

[Markle]

Devoss wants rich parents to get tax breaks for private school.

That is a flat out LIE. Leaving nothing in the rest of your "post" worth viewing.

 

[Flopper]

Yes...the democrats will condemn minority kids to hell holes for schools.......and happily send their own kids to private schools...from the salaries we pay them....

Well, well, well........the fake indian princess sent her kids to private schools....

Senators Opposed Vouchers Backer DeVos, Send THEIR Kids To Posh Private School

Sen. Al Franken, a Democrat representing Minnesota who was once an unfunny comedian with bit parts on “Saturday Night Live,” has two children who attend The Dalton School in New York City — 1,018 miles from Minneapolis and 226 miles from Washington, D.C.

The cost of a single year of tuition for students in kindergarten through 12th grade at Dalton is $44,640. This amount, which represents slightly more than the average household income in the state of Alabama, is “among the lowest of our peer schools,” the posh Upper East Side school trumpets. On Friday, lunch at Dalton scrumptiously featured sustainable green tea salmon, anasazi bean salad, fresh organic papaya yogurt and a pasta bar with both marinara sauce and puttanesca sauce.

Dalton is most famous because its administration called off this year’s ice-skating party after a large group of parents refused to send their children to the Trump Wollman Rink in Central Park for political reasons. (RELATED: ‘Liberal Moms’ Make Fancypants Manhattan Prep School Cancel Ice Skating Party At Trump Rink)

Sen. Elizabeth Warren, a Democrat representing Massachusetts, has a granddaughter who rubs shoulders with the children of movie stars at the trendy Harvard-Westlake School in Los Angeles, California. Tuition at Harvard-Westlake costs $35,900 each year. There’s also a $2,000 fee for new students.

Harvard-Westlake offers a bevy of amazing opportunities for students including study-abroad programs in Spain, France, China, Italy and India. There’s also the Mountain School, “an independent semester program that provides high school juniors the opportunity to live and work on an organic farm in rural Vermont.”

Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse, a Democrat representing Rhode Island and himself a private boarding school product, has two children. His daughter attended the Wheeler School, a coed day school in Providence where a single year of tuition for sixth grade through 12th grade currently costs $35,215.

Sixth graders at Wheeler spend a segment of the school year romping around at a 120-acre farm owned by the school. The “unique, place-based experience” includes “vigorous scientific leaf studies” and “examinations of poetry, art, and mathematical models deepened through the context of” the school-owned farm.

Whitehouse, who has owned stock in a for-profit charter school company, also sent his son to a St. George’s School, a private boarding school in a gorgeous hamlet on the seaside.

Annual tuition at St. George’s is currently $39,900. Boarding students pay $58,000.

St. George’s offers a special program which allows students to sail around the world for several week on a 69-foot sailboat “traveling in a grand loop from Rhode Island across to the Azores and Spain, through the Mediterranean to Italy and Greece, back to the Canary Islands and Puerto Rico.”

Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand, a Democrat representing New York and herself an alumna of the tony Emma Willard School, sends her two school-age children to Capitol Hill Day School, according to The Washington Post. Tuition at the private, progressive bastion currently runs $30,300.00 per year for sixth through eighth grades, $28,700.00 per year for first through fifth grades and $28,000.00 per year for preschoolers.

Instruction in French and Spanish begins in preschool at Capitol Hill Day School. Also, performing arts is a big deal. There are “operas based on children’s books,” for example, and the sixth graders put on a musical theater production.

Sen. Richard Blumenthal, a Democrat representing Connecticut, sent one of his four children to Brunswick School, a private, all-boys day school in Greenwich, according to the Connecticut Post. A year of high school tuition at Brunswick currently costs $40,450. Tuition for preschoolers costs $30,930 per year.

On Tuesday, grade school kids at Brunswick will enjoy a delicious lunch of barbecue antibiotic-free chicken sandwiches on Texas rolls.

Blumenthal sent another one of his kids to Greenwich Academy, an all-girls day school where high school tuition currently runs $41,890. A single year of prekindergarten at the private institution costs $37,470.

Tuesday’s lunch at Greenwich Academy includes potato leek soup, baked macaroni and cheese and braised red cabbage.

Sen. Maggie Hassan, a Democrat representing New Hampshire, has two children. Her daughter attended Phillips Exeter Academy, one of the most notable fancypants private schools in the United States. Hassan’s husband, Thomas, was the principal of Phillips Exeter at the time. The cost for a year of tuition and fees at Phillips Exeter is currently $37,875. Boarding students pay $48,550.

The lunch menu at Phillips Exeter features “authentic recipes from around the world” and “more than 5,000 recipes in regular rotation.” Dinner selections for boarders include “grilled steak tips, fettuccine alfredo, palak paneer or quinoa with nuts.” Also, all dining staffers — “from chefs to dishwashers” receive “training in food allergens.”

Sen. Bob Casey, a Democrat representing Pennsylvania, sent his daughters to Scranton Preparatory School, a private Jesuit school where a year of tuition costs $13,400. Casey is also an alumnus of Scranton Prep.

Every classroom at Scranton Prep offers cutting-edge technology and contains “the very latest in interactive instructional technology.” There’s also a very impressive 34,000-square-foot building dedicated to the arts and sciences which features “state-of-the-art science classrooms and laboratories as well as a magnificent theater that seats 875 people.”



Read more: Senators Opposed Vouchers Backer DeVos, Send THEIR Kids To Posh Private School

They pay.

That s the difference dumbass.

They aren't whining & wanting me to pay.

DeVos wants me to pay for your sniveling brat to go to private school. I say fuck that.

I pay for public school.

Use it or lose it.

Why should low and low-middle income parents be forced into a failing school? Shouldn't they be able to take the money poured into a failed school and attend a better school for their children?

No Child Left Behind gives students at failing schools the option to transfer to a passing school in the district. Some districts give students an array of choices but others restrict the choice to a single school.

Most parents when given a choice of transfer regardless of whether it's another district school, charter school, or a voucher for a private school, the majority chose to stay at the failing school. One of the reasons given is that failing schools get a lot of attention from the district, state, and the federal government. This usually means new leadership in the school, additional staff, and more funding.

 

[EverCurious]

I'll just add two things here;

1. I'd say probably 70% of Alaska's schools are not in a "school building" they are in reclaimed office or residential space that had been sitting empty. Most of our Anchorage preschools are in a house. In Eagle River, which is a wealthy neighborhood, we have 3 public schools and 6 private schools (long story, but we were annexed by Anchorage decades ago and Anchorage residents refuse all the votes to give ER new schools so we had to improvise and work around them just to educate our kids.) There's a private school in a strip mall, two are at churches (we are 70% Christian), there's another in the old public library space, and another above the Alaska Industrial Hardware store. As the public schools became more cramped, the wealthy parents here in Eagle River spent more on the private schools that performed the best, those private schools were able to expand then. The one in the strip mall actually ended up ultimately buying the entire mall after a number of years of leasing. I think ya'll complaining about how folks will start new schools are thinking too linear about what it takes to start a school.

2. For the record, 90% of the schools in Alaska are indeed armed because of grizzlies and polar bears - did you know Polar bears actually like the taste of humans? They stalk our citizens, damn fucking straight our teachers are armed, if they weren't the bears would break into the schools and eat the kids I've no doubt of it. So laugh all you want from your sardine can cities, but DeVos wasn't making a joke. In fact, Alaska had to make specific provisions to pre-emptively stop the know-nothings from trying to force gun free zones onto our schools. I'm in the big city and we have bears in our back yard, we had a wolf pack that was stalking dogs next door, and in fact ate a ladies golden lab off it's leash while she beat them with sticks just off my property. School gun laws need to be left up to the locals, not some liberal idiot in DC who has no fucking clue what's going on in the real world of rural communities half a world away.

 

[Lewdog]

Do you understand the term "Representative?" Representatives are supposed to vote and do things with the best interests of their constituents in mind, not what they do with their own kids. If they can afford to pay for a private school, and they want to send their kids to a private school, more power to them. This is a free country and that is their right to be able to do so. However, if they think it is in the best interests of their constituents NOT to have a voucher program that will hurt public schools which most of the kids of the people they represent attend... then they made the right choice.

So you are happy to discriminate against the low and low-middle income parents? Why should they not get a choice of schools?

How do you read that out of my post? And no I don't think it should be made so that several kids should get a lower standard of income so that a select few can be able to go to private schools.

 

[Iceweasel]

So seriously, when it comes to the inner city, the problem is lack of funding due to a small property tax base. Does anyone really think allowing charter schools to siphon that limited funding is going to improve the outcome for anyone? And does anyone really believe a for-profit enterprise can come in to that situation, siphon off limited funding, and deliver improvement WITHOUT significant outside subsidization? Detroit is an example.

So let's go ahead and toss aside any argument for charter schools that talks about improving student performance in the inner cities.

You can toss out gravity if you want. You'll still fall on your ass. There's no funding problem. We pay MUCH more per students that any other country and we get our asses kicked academically around the globe.

It's not possible for charter schools to exist within reach of inner city youths? That was quite a reach around.

The "much more" is a lie.

Your full of shit. As always.

 

[Iceweasel]

Do you understand the term "Representative?" Representatives are supposed to vote and do things with the best interests of their constituents in mind, not what they do with their own kids. If they can afford to pay for a private school, and they want to send their kids to a private school, more power to them. This is a free country and that is their right to be able to do so. However, if they think it is in the best interests of their constituents NOT to have a voucher program that will hurt public schools which most of the kids of the people they represent attend... then they made the right choice.

So you are happy to discriminate against the low and low-middle income parents? Why should they not get a choice of schools?

How do you read that out of my post? And no I don't think it should be made so that several kids should get a lower standard of income so that a select few can be able to go to private schools.

How did you get that out of what he said?

 

[RealDave]

So seriously, when it comes to the inner city, the problem is lack of funding due to a small property tax base. Does anyone really think allowing charter schools to siphon that limited funding is going to improve the outcome for anyone? And does anyone really believe a for-profit enterprise can come in to that situation, siphon off limited funding, and deliver improvement WITHOUT significant outside subsidization? Detroit is an example.

So let's go ahead and toss aside any argument for charter schools that talks about improving student performance in the inner cities.

You can toss out gravity if you want. You'll still fall on your ass. There's no funding problem. We pay MUCH more per students that any other country and we get our asses kicked academically around the globe.

It's not possible for charter schools to exist within reach of inner city youths? That was quite a reach around.

The "much more" is a lie.

Your full of shit. As always.

Look itb up asshole. We are not the highest. There are several countries that spend as much as we do.