They Were Warned: Covington Catholic teen sues 54 news outlets, lawmakers and celebrities

There were no threads calling it out when it happened to David Hogg.

Ah, that's bullshit, GG...you on the left went ballistic every time someone dared to question little David's stance on gun control! Hogg was and is a publicity hog who used a tragedy to make himself famous. The kid on that school trip just stood there and smiled.

Fell free to produce a single post from me doing such a thing.
not that i recall.

but i don't see the connection between the 2.

one was at home when a shooting when down at his school and he worked to insert himself into the social situation and tried to become a CNN political figure at the time. he went and sought out attention. hell, he boycotted the NRA in their parking lot. only i believe the NRA was closed that day so he doesn't really think things through very well. just screams the social justice talking point of the day and demands boycotts to anyone who doesn't follow him around.

the other was simply at a school function and got caught up in a bizarre situation and just smiled his way through it and suddenly became hated cause catholic and maga. those 2 facets made him wrong and deserving of a beating for his smirking. that passive action on his part to try and NOT make it a viral story made him the target of school attacks, on his parents, the entertainment industry stopped putting on blackface long enough to take shots at him and his family...

the 2 situations simply don't compare. one cried out for attention and got it. the other got it cause that's just what we do anymore.

Interesting how we allow our personal views to color all that we see.

You see Sandman as someone who just happened to be standing in the wrong place at the wrong time, ignoring all his friends behind him cheering him on, telling him to keep it up, whatever "it" was. He could have walked away, he could have actually said something vice having a staring contest. Is what happened to him afterwards wrong, absolutely, but anyone that is surprised by it has not been paying attention.

You see Hogg as an attention whore who just wanted to be in the limelight, ignoring that his school was just shot up and that he lost friends and classmates. Yeah, I think Hogg is an idiot and I do not agree with his views on gun control, but at the same time I can understand why he might feel that way. Talking to my son (who is 16) after that shooting helped me to understand it from a teens perspective as well. So, while I do not agree with him, I will not condemn him.
what was sandman supposed to do? if someone got in your face like that when you were 16, what would you have done?

from your personal views now coloring what you're seeing. what would you have done?

we'll save hogg for later cause again, i don't see them as the same. one went looking for attention, one had it dropped on him.

They (the students) moved over close to the other groups to sing their songs, they were not just standing there waiting for their bus.

As for what I would have done, who knows I was pretty much a dick at 16 so I would have likely done more than stand there...but luckily for me they did not have cellphones back then.
 
They were warned - just apologize, admit you were wrong, and it all goes away. Nope.....

It will be an up-hill battle, but if they get Jury Trials, as much as Americans hate Fake-News right now, they could stand to make a ton of money.

Forget the money - Just the negative publicity alone for attacking children with / over fake news simply because they wore a hat supporting the President of the United States, choosing to ignore the 'Stolen Valor Vet' and Black Hate Group to do so, will be damaging.

“I think the whole fighting-back part benefits Sandmann in some way, to restore his reputation in the court of public opinion as well as in the court of law,” said Clay Calvert, who teaches media law at the University of Florida.'

Nick Sandmann, Covington Catholic teen, begins legal battle against media, celebrities
Please remove one of those "n"'s
 
Ah, that's bullshit, GG...you on the left went ballistic every time someone dared to question little David's stance on gun control! Hogg was and is a publicity hog who used a tragedy to make himself famous. The kid on that school trip just stood there and smiled.

Fell free to produce a single post from me doing such a thing.
not that i recall.

but i don't see the connection between the 2.

one was at home when a shooting when down at his school and he worked to insert himself into the social situation and tried to become a CNN political figure at the time. he went and sought out attention. hell, he boycotted the NRA in their parking lot. only i believe the NRA was closed that day so he doesn't really think things through very well. just screams the social justice talking point of the day and demands boycotts to anyone who doesn't follow him around.

the other was simply at a school function and got caught up in a bizarre situation and just smiled his way through it and suddenly became hated cause catholic and maga. those 2 facets made him wrong and deserving of a beating for his smirking. that passive action on his part to try and NOT make it a viral story made him the target of school attacks, on his parents, the entertainment industry stopped putting on blackface long enough to take shots at him and his family...

the 2 situations simply don't compare. one cried out for attention and got it. the other got it cause that's just what we do anymore.

Interesting how we allow our personal views to color all that we see.

You see Sandman as someone who just happened to be standing in the wrong place at the wrong time, ignoring all his friends behind him cheering him on, telling him to keep it up, whatever "it" was. He could have walked away, he could have actually said something vice having a staring contest. Is what happened to him afterwards wrong, absolutely, but anyone that is surprised by it has not been paying attention.

You see Hogg as an attention whore who just wanted to be in the limelight, ignoring that his school was just shot up and that he lost friends and classmates. Yeah, I think Hogg is an idiot and I do not agree with his views on gun control, but at the same time I can understand why he might feel that way. Talking to my son (who is 16) after that shooting helped me to understand it from a teens perspective as well. So, while I do not agree with him, I will not condemn him.
what was sandman supposed to do? if someone got in your face like that when you were 16, what would you have done?

from your personal views now coloring what you're seeing. what would you have done?

we'll save hogg for later cause again, i don't see them as the same. one went looking for attention, one had it dropped on him.

They (the students) moved over close to the other groups to sing their songs, they were not just standing there waiting for their bus.

As for what I would have done, who knows I was pretty much a dick at 16 so I would have likely done more than stand there...but luckily for me they did not have cellphones back then.
i guess that's my point.

i can't force myself to get surprised a group of teens waiting on a bus circled around the action going on at the time and joined into the stupidity. to do that, to me, is to simply get mad at human nature. people see a wreck, they rubberneck and slow down blocking traffic.

you'd have done a lot more than what this kid did. no idea what i would have done except likely leave. not much into violence or hitting people and that's a last resort at all times for me.

but i find nothing strange or out of the ordinary in what these kids did that day, based on my biased viewpoints.

now, for hogg.
what i can't find is in any other shooting (and unfortunately we have far too many to reference) another kid inserting himself into the social war like hogg did. so i don't see where we can call what hogg did, ordinary behavior.

based on my biased viewpoints.
 
Yup, the kid just stood and smiled

Ended up all over the news , w/the right having conniptions over 'fake news'

and now the right has built an entire narrative around the issue

or, in other words manufactured their own 'news'

how sad is that?

~S~
Perhaps it should have not been made newsworthy by the progressive socialist TV/entertainment shills. p.s....aren't one of your progressive socialist teenagers due for another school tragedy? Just asking.
 
i guess that's my point.

i can't force myself to get surprised a group of teens waiting on a bus circled around the action going on at the time and joined into the stupidity. to do that, to me, is to simply get mad at human nature. people see a wreck, they rubberneck and slow down blocking traffic.

you'd have done a lot more than what this kid did. no idea what i would have done except likely leave. not much into violence or hitting people and that's a last resort at all times for me.

but i find nothing strange or out of the ordinary in what these kids did that day, based on my biased viewpoints.

now, for hogg.
what i can't find is in any other shooting (and unfortunately we have far too many to reference) another kid inserting himself into the social war like hogg did. so i don't see where we can call what hogg did, ordinary behavior.

based on my biased viewpoints.

I find nothing strange or out of the ordinary in what Sandmann did either, but I also do not find the reaction to it strange or out of the ordinary for our society today.

While it is true that what Hogg choose to do was new and different, I can at the same time see where teens are saying "enough is enough". It is a shame we have to have drills in our schools now so the kids know how to react to an active shooting incident.
 
i guess that's my point.

i can't force myself to get surprised a group of teens waiting on a bus circled around the action going on at the time and joined into the stupidity. to do that, to me, is to simply get mad at human nature. people see a wreck, they rubberneck and slow down blocking traffic.

you'd have done a lot more than what this kid did. no idea what i would have done except likely leave. not much into violence or hitting people and that's a last resort at all times for me.

but i find nothing strange or out of the ordinary in what these kids did that day, based on my biased viewpoints.

now, for hogg.
what i can't find is in any other shooting (and unfortunately we have far too many to reference) another kid inserting himself into the social war like hogg did. so i don't see where we can call what hogg did, ordinary behavior.

based on my biased viewpoints.

I find nothing strange or out of the ordinary in what Sandmann did either, but I also do not find the reaction to it strange or out of the ordinary for our society today.

While it is true that what Hogg choose to do was new and different, I can at the same time see where teens are saying "enough is enough". It is a shame we have to have drills in our schools now so the kids know how to react to an active shooting incident.

fair enough and now i get where you are coming from.
 
Yup, the kid just stood and smiled

Ended up all over the news , w/the right having conniptions over 'fake news'

and now the right has built an entire narrative around the issue

or, in other words manufactured their own 'news'

how sad is that?

~S~

What is it that annoyed you on the left so much about the fact that he just stood there smiling? Is it because you couldn't get him to react violently? That WAS the whole reason why the "tribal elder" got right up in his face and started banging his drum...or won't you admit that? That was an "activist" who was trying his best to get a kid wearing a MAGA hat to physically react to him in front of all of the cameras that he knew were filming what went down. When he couldn't get the response he wanted...that same activist lied about what happened and the main stream media ate it up with a spoon and asked for seconds! Then the idiot Hollywood crowd showed once again how clueless they are with tweets about the violence they'd like to bring against a teenager who did NOTHING!
 
what a snowflake he is...cannot take a little criticism.
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He's a CHILD, dumbass...one liberals viciously attacked for wearing a hat supporting his President....who called for violence against him....to be raped, burned alive, and thrown head-1st into a wood chipper while they ignored the Stolen Valor Vet and the Black Hate Group causing trouble.

:wtf:is wrong with you / snowflakes?

Two words: David Hogg. Stuff your fake outrage in a sock.

I agree that Hogg was treated harshly by conservatives, but I think comparing him to Sandmann is an apples to oranges juxtaposition. Hogg embraced his fame (or notoriety) and was a bit of an instigator himself. He willingly put himself out there in the line of fire as an anti-gun activist after the incident at Douglas High knowing full well what the blow back would be. He was a media darling. Sandmann did nothing at all. He has largely avoided unwanted attention and the media has destroyed him despite he being the victim.
Hogg put himself in front of the public by dancing for the media. Sandmann didn't ask for this child abuse from people who should know better.
Dancing for the media? What does that mean? Because his friends were murdered?

And to me, a smirking teen looks like a smirking teen.


He was criticized for his demeanor and disrespect

Not the media’s fault
 
This suit could be interesting. Some more conservative or conventional media may just want to settle for a smaller sum if the public seems to be backing the young man. Once you have some settling, the pressure is on for the rest and the settlements could go skyward!

I'd be very surprised if the legal counsel for every single one of them didn't advise them to try to settle quietly out-of-court. Ironically, the media are not fond of coming under public scrutiny themselves.

DID YOU SAY QUIETLY? No such thing in media! Once they are found guilty, 2020 belongs to the Republicans!

Of course there's such a thing in media. They're actually experts at keeping quiet on things they don't want to talk about . . . like their own malfeasance or any scandal that might attach to Democrats.
 
what a snowflake he is...cannot take a little criticism.

I wonder if his mommy and daddy sued to get him better grades and that is where he learned it from.

Excuse me, but you think what happened to him is a little criticism? Tell us all about the time you had your reputation smeared in front of billions of people world wide for something you weren't guilty of all to satisfy an insatiable appetite for political correctness. Oh, that didn't happen to you? And yet, here you are judging, rather ignorantly.

This isn't to mean I agree with the lawsuits. We'll see how it pans out and what arguments they use to justify this action, but for you to poo-poo what happened to him and dismiss his retribution as he acting like a little baby really illustrates how incredibly out of touch and out of your depth you are. He was not a politician putting himself out there. He is a 17 year old kid who got victimized for no other reason than being in the wrong place at the wrong time and this could follow him around for the rest of his life. Any school or job he applies to in the future, all they have to do is Google his name and see the stuff written about him. You don't think that will have an affect five, ten, twenty years down the road? I don't know how old you are, but we're in the digital age now. This stuff will be out there, easily accessible, forever and he will always be judged on it by others regardless of the outcomes.

The kid acted like an ass.

Rape victims asked for it.
 
what a snowflake he is...cannot take a little criticism.

I wonder if his mommy and daddy sued to get him better grades and that is where he learned it from.

Excuse me, but you think what happened to him is a little criticism? Tell us all about the time you had your reputation smeared in front of billions of people world wide for something you weren't guilty of all to satisfy an insatiable appetite for political correctness. Oh, that didn't happen to you? And yet, here you are judging, rather ignorantly.

This isn't to mean I agree with the lawsuits. We'll see how it pans out and what arguments they use to justify this action, but for you to poo-poo what happened to him and dismiss his retribution as he acting like a little baby really illustrates how incredibly out of touch and out of your depth you are. He was not a politician putting himself out there. He is a 17 year old kid who got victimized for no other reason than being in the wrong place at the wrong time and this could follow him around for the rest of his life. Any school or job he applies to in the future, all they have to do is Google his name and see the stuff written about him. You don't think that will have an affect five, ten, twenty years down the road? I don't know how old you are, but we're in the digital age now. This stuff will be out there, easily accessible, forever and he will always be judged on it by others regardless of the outcomes.

The kid acted like an ass.

Rape victims asked for it.

Stupid comment.
 
what a snowflake he is...cannot take a little criticism.

I wonder if his mommy and daddy sued to get him better grades and that is where he learned it from.

Excuse me, but you think what happened to him is a little criticism? Tell us all about the time you had your reputation smeared in front of billions of people world wide for something you weren't guilty of all to satisfy an insatiable appetite for political correctness. Oh, that didn't happen to you? And yet, here you are judging, rather ignorantly.

This isn't to mean I agree with the lawsuits. We'll see how it pans out and what arguments they use to justify this action, but for you to poo-poo what happened to him and dismiss his retribution as he acting like a little baby really illustrates how incredibly out of touch and out of your depth you are. He was not a politician putting himself out there. He is a 17 year old kid who got victimized for no other reason than being in the wrong place at the wrong time and this could follow him around for the rest of his life. Any school or job he applies to in the future, all they have to do is Google his name and see the stuff written about him. You don't think that will have an affect five, ten, twenty years down the road? I don't know how old you are, but we're in the digital age now. This stuff will be out there, easily accessible, forever and he will always be judged on it by others regardless of the outcomes.

The kid acted like an ass.

Rape victims asked for it.

Stupid comment.

Exactly. You appear to have gotten the point.
 
what a snowflake he is...cannot take a little criticism.

I wonder if his mommy and daddy sued to get him better grades and that is where he learned it from.

Excuse me, but you think what happened to him is a little criticism? Tell us all about the time you had your reputation smeared in front of billions of people world wide for something you weren't guilty of all to satisfy an insatiable appetite for political correctness. Oh, that didn't happen to you? And yet, here you are judging, rather ignorantly.

This isn't to mean I agree with the lawsuits. We'll see how it pans out and what arguments they use to justify this action, but for you to poo-poo what happened to him and dismiss his retribution as he acting like a little baby really illustrates how incredibly out of touch and out of your depth you are. He was not a politician putting himself out there. He is a 17 year old kid who got victimized for no other reason than being in the wrong place at the wrong time and this could follow him around for the rest of his life. Any school or job he applies to in the future, all they have to do is Google his name and see the stuff written about him. You don't think that will have an affect five, ten, twenty years down the road? I don't know how old you are, but we're in the digital age now. This stuff will be out there, easily accessible, forever and he will always be judged on it by others regardless of the outcomes.

The kid acted like an ass.

Rape victims asked for it.

Stupid comment.
well when you reply to stupid it's hard to raise it back up.
 
what a snowflake he is...cannot take a little criticism.

I wonder if his mommy and daddy sued to get him better grades and that is where he learned it from.

Excuse me, but you think what happened to him is a little criticism? Tell us all about the time you had your reputation smeared in front of billions of people world wide for something you weren't guilty of all to satisfy an insatiable appetite for political correctness. Oh, that didn't happen to you? And yet, here you are judging, rather ignorantly.

This isn't to mean I agree with the lawsuits. We'll see how it pans out and what arguments they use to justify this action, but for you to poo-poo what happened to him and dismiss his retribution as he acting like a little baby really illustrates how incredibly out of touch and out of your depth you are. He was not a politician putting himself out there. He is a 17 year old kid who got victimized for no other reason than being in the wrong place at the wrong time and this could follow him around for the rest of his life. Any school or job he applies to in the future, all they have to do is Google his name and see the stuff written about him. You don't think that will have an affect five, ten, twenty years down the road? I don't know how old you are, but we're in the digital age now. This stuff will be out there, easily accessible, forever and he will always be judged on it by others regardless of the outcomes.

The kid acted like an ass.

Rape victims asked for it.

Stupid comment.

Exactly. You appear to have gotten the point.
Your making a rim shot out of a sex crime?
 
what a snowflake he is...cannot take a little criticism.

I wonder if his mommy and daddy sued to get him better grades and that is where he learned it from.

Excuse me, but you think what happened to him is a little criticism? Tell us all about the time you had your reputation smeared in front of billions of people world wide for something you weren't guilty of all to satisfy an insatiable appetite for political correctness. Oh, that didn't happen to you? And yet, here you are judging, rather ignorantly.

This isn't to mean I agree with the lawsuits. We'll see how it pans out and what arguments they use to justify this action, but for you to poo-poo what happened to him and dismiss his retribution as he acting like a little baby really illustrates how incredibly out of touch and out of your depth you are. He was not a politician putting himself out there. He is a 17 year old kid who got victimized for no other reason than being in the wrong place at the wrong time and this could follow him around for the rest of his life. Any school or job he applies to in the future, all they have to do is Google his name and see the stuff written about him. You don't think that will have an affect five, ten, twenty years down the road? I don't know how old you are, but we're in the digital age now. This stuff will be out there, easily accessible, forever and he will always be judged on it by others regardless of the outcomes.

The kid acted like an ass.

Rape victims asked for it.

Stupid comment.

Exactly. You appear to have gotten the point.
No you made a logically faulty comparison, and it should be deleted for inappropriate content.
 
Free speech is a bitch baby!

There is a distinction to be made between slander and free speech...you know that...right?

Do you know the difference between an opinion and slander?
Free speech/opinion isn't slander unless someone can prove in a court of law that it's a lie.
You're welcome.

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No shit? Wow, all of that video tape that shows the news agency's lied is sure going to come in handy...ain't it?


I don't know and you don't either. If it goes to court maybe there will be an answer.

You're a mod and you should abide by the rules and move it to Current Events or Media.
This isn't about politics.
Do your job, your right wing bias is showing.
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Translation:
“You’re making me look like the desperate fool that I am...therefore, move the thread.”

Nope. That was my FIRST post to this thread...that it doesn't belong in politics.
And threads like this just show how myopic the right has become...Stewing in your own stink over "fake news".
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what a snowflake he is...cannot take a little criticism.

I wonder if his mommy and daddy sued to get him better grades and that is where he learned it from.

Excuse me, but you think what happened to him is a little criticism? Tell us all about the time you had your reputation smeared in front of billions of people world wide for something you weren't guilty of all to satisfy an insatiable appetite for political correctness. Oh, that didn't happen to you? And yet, here you are judging, rather ignorantly.

This isn't to mean I agree with the lawsuits. We'll see how it pans out and what arguments they use to justify this action, but for you to poo-poo what happened to him and dismiss his retribution as he acting like a little baby really illustrates how incredibly out of touch and out of your depth you are. He was not a politician putting himself out there. He is a 17 year old kid who got victimized for no other reason than being in the wrong place at the wrong time and this could follow him around for the rest of his life. Any school or job he applies to in the future, all they have to do is Google his name and see the stuff written about him. You don't think that will have an affect five, ten, twenty years down the road? I don't know how old you are, but we're in the digital age now. This stuff will be out there, easily accessible, forever and he will always be judged on it by others regardless of the outcomes.

The kid acted like an ass.

Rape victims asked for it.

Stupid comment.
well when you reply to stupid it's hard to raise it back up.

Thats what she said.
 
Excuse me, but you think what happened to him is a little criticism? Tell us all about the time you had your reputation smeared in front of billions of people world wide for something you weren't guilty of all to satisfy an insatiable appetite for political correctness. Oh, that didn't happen to you? And yet, here you are judging, rather ignorantly.

This isn't to mean I agree with the lawsuits. We'll see how it pans out and what arguments they use to justify this action, but for you to poo-poo what happened to him and dismiss his retribution as he acting like a little baby really illustrates how incredibly out of touch and out of your depth you are. He was not a politician putting himself out there. He is a 17 year old kid who got victimized for no other reason than being in the wrong place at the wrong time and this could follow him around for the rest of his life. Any school or job he applies to in the future, all they have to do is Google his name and see the stuff written about him. You don't think that will have an affect five, ten, twenty years down the road? I don't know how old you are, but we're in the digital age now. This stuff will be out there, easily accessible, forever and he will always be judged on it by others regardless of the outcomes.

The kid acted like an ass.

Rape victims asked for it.

Stupid comment.

Exactly. You appear to have gotten the point.
No you made a logically faulty comparison, and it should be deleted for inappropriate content.

No I didn't
 
The kid acted like an ass.

Rape victims asked for it.

Stupid comment.

Exactly. You appear to have gotten the point.
No you made a logically faulty comparison, and it should be deleted for inappropriate content.

No I didn't

Yes. You did. All of us don’t find sexual assault as funny as you do.
 

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