This Election Really Comes Down To One Thing.

[francoHFW]

I don't mind local GOPers' doings, but their national ideas are a misinformed hateful disgrace.

Get off this hate shit. Or give me some hateful policies and quotes. Make sure the context of those quotes are included.

Hit it.

Just about anything Trumps says about those groups.

That is no answer. So you admit it is just rhetoric only used for LIV's who mindlessly follow the MSM.

And pointing out divisive people is not causing division...

 

[francoHFW]

Change. If the people want change; they will vote for Trump. All the drama between Election Day, and now won't change that.
If the people want more of the same old shit they've been getting these past eight years; they will vote for Clinton. None of the crimes and scandals revealed between then, and now will change that.
That's all this election boils down to. And come November; the only choice really being made is; continue the status quo, or change. It really is that simple.

You can’t be serious.

Trump and the conservatives who support him are frightened by change, hostile toward diversity, dissent, and individual liberty; hostile toward Muslims, Hispanic Americans, and immigrants.

The last thing America needs is Trump’s reactionary politics of division, bigotry, and hate.

The only ‘change’ Trump advocates for is change for the worst – to return America to a time of fear and oppression, when citizens were disadvantaged for no other reason than who they are, a time when far too many Americans were denied their rights and protected liberties.

Your thread premise is as ridiculous as it is wrong.

We have the politics of division. And bigots and haters are anyone who disagree with progressives.

And to say that Conservatives have something against individual liberty is a huge lie. One of these liberties is expressing different opinions. Some of do not intend to give the country away so Democrats can buy votes from immigrants. You are just full of shit and completely in lock step with the people, in power now, that want to tell us what is good for us whether we like it or not.

Hillary is the continuation of division and the intimidation already levied against any conservative.

Half of them are deplorable, just as she said lol...Half the GOPers. And another quarter are lying thieving scumbags. See sig, last line. At least misinformed all to hell, and I mean hell. lol. See sig last line.

No division there or hateful rhetoric. Fucking hypocrites.

That's my point and he's such an ignorant troll, he doesn't realize he's made himself a joke.

Have ANY argument, dupe? Pointing out divisive haters is not causing the division.

 

[talksalot]

Change. If the people want change; they will vote for Trump. All the drama between Election Day, and now won't change that.
If the people want more of the same old shit they've been getting these past eight years; they will vote for Clinton. None of the crimes and scandals revealed between then, and now will change that.
That's all this election boils down to. And come November; the only choice really being made is; continue the status quo, or change. It really is that simple.

You can’t be serious.

Trump and the conservatives who support him are frightened by change, hostile toward diversity, dissent, and individual liberty; hostile toward Muslims, Hispanic Americans, and immigrants.

The last thing America needs is Trump’s reactionary politics of division, bigotry, and hate.

The only ‘change’ Trump advocates for is change for the worst – to return America to a time of fear and oppression, when citizens were disadvantaged for no other reason than who they are, a time when far too many Americans were denied their rights and protected liberties.

Your thread premise is as ridiculous as it is wrong.

Liberal hysteria

 

[Avacheunggg]

Can Trump ensure that the change are good for us?

Change. If the people want change; they will vote for Trump. All the drama between Election Day, and now won't change that.
If the people want more of the same old shit they've been getting these past eight years; they will vote for Clinton. None of the crimes and scandals revealed between then, and now will change that.
That's all this election boils down to. And come November; the only choice really being made is; continue the status quo, or change. It really is that simple.

 

[Vastator]

Can Trump ensure that the change are good for us?

Change. If the people want change; they will vote for Trump. All the drama between Election Day, and now won't change that.
If the people want more of the same old shit they've been getting these past eight years; they will vote for Clinton. None of the crimes and scandals revealed between then, and now will change that.
That's all this election boils down to. And come November; the only choice really being made is; continue the status quo, or change. It really is that simple.

Which us?

 

[francoHFW]

Change. If the people want change; they will vote for Trump. All the drama between Election Day, and now won't change that.
If the people want more of the same old shit they've been getting these past eight years; they will vote for Clinton. None of the crimes and scandals revealed between then, and now will change that.
That's all this election boils down to. And come November; the only choice really being made is; continue the status quo, or change. It really is that simple.

You can’t be serious.

Trump and the conservatives who support him are frightened by change, hostile toward diversity, dissent, and individual liberty; hostile toward Muslims, Hispanic Americans, and immigrants.

The last thing America needs is Trump’s reactionary politics of division, bigotry, and hate.

The only ‘change’ Trump advocates for is change for the worst – to return America to a time of fear and oppression, when citizens were disadvantaged for no other reason than who they are, a time when far too many Americans were denied their rights and protected liberties.

Your thread premise is as ridiculous as it is wrong.

Liberal hysteria

Also the rest of the world. The kind of RW hysteria you get from a depression...it's happening everywhere to an extent.

 

[talksalot]

You can’t be serious.

Trump and the conservatives who support him are frightened by change, hostile toward diversity, dissent, and individual liberty; hostile toward Muslims, Hispanic Americans, and immigrants.

The last thing America needs is Trump’s reactionary politics of division, bigotry, and hate.

The only ‘change’ Trump advocates for is change for the worst – to return America to a time of fear and oppression, when citizens were disadvantaged for no other reason than who they are, a time when far too many Americans were denied their rights and protected liberties.

Your thread premise is as ridiculous as it is wrong.

We have the politics of division. And bigots and haters are anyone who disagree with progressives.

And to say that Conservatives have something against individual liberty is a huge lie. One of these liberties is expressing different opinions. Some of do not intend to give the country away so Democrats can buy votes from immigrants. You are just full of shit and completely in lock step with the people, in power now, that want to tell us what is good for us whether we like it or not.

Hillary is the continuation of division and the intimidation already levied against any conservative.

Half of them are deplorable, just as she said lol...Half the GOPers. And another quarter are lying thieving scumbags. See sig, last line. At least misinformed all to hell, and I mean hell. lol. See sig last line.

No division there or hateful rhetoric. Fucking hypocrites.

That's my point and he's such an ignorant troll, he doesn't realize he's made himself a joke.

Have ANY argument, dupe? Pointing out divisive haters is not causing the division.

Guess you haven't noticed what an incredibly divisive president we currently have in office. People will unite when we achieve prosperity and security....that's two things we don't have now and won't get with Hillary.

Democrats only interest in minorities or refugees is in increasing their voting base. They promise everything and deliver nothing and still get their vote. It's about power, not people and Republicans understand that.

 

[320 Years of History]

I'm all for change. Implementing and managing change is what I do for a living, but I do not advocate change merely for the sake of changing. Neither do I advocate not changing for its own sake.

As goes conservatism and change, I can't think of any one concept that is as antithetical to conservatism's ideals than is change. Conservatism is by definition resistance to and reticence for change.

The only change that Conservatives embrace is the change from Democratic control to Republican control. Think about Trump's slogan, "Make America Great Again" and then ask yourself how does he want to do it. The answer is he wants to implement policies similar to those we had some 50 or more years ago. Sure, strictly speaking, that's change from what we have now, but considered in totality, it's a regressing not advancing. That is not the sort of change I'm keen to embrace.

 

[francoHFW]

I'm all for change. Implementing and managing change is what I do for a living, but I do not advocate change merely for the sake of changing. Neither do I advocate not changing for its own sake.

As goes conservatism and change, I can't think of any one concept that is as antithetical to conservatism's ideals than is change. Conservatism is by definition resistance to and reticence for change.

The only change that Conservatives embrace is the change from Democratic control to Republican control. Think about Trump's slogan, "Make America Great Again" and then ask yourself how does he want to do it. The answer is he wants to implement policies similar to those we had some 50 or more years ago. Sure, strictly speaking, that's change from what we have now, but considered in totality, it's a regressing not advancing. That is not the sort of change I'm keen to embrace.

Or 8 years ago...worked great.

 

[Clementine]

Change. If the people want change; they will vote for Trump. All the drama between Election Day, and now won't change that.
If the people want more of the same old shit they've been getting these past eight years; they will vote for Clinton. None of the crimes and scandals revealed between then, and now will change that.
That's all this election boils down to. And come November; the only choice really being made is; continue the status quo, or change. It really is that simple.

But, who the people support most might not win the presidency.

 

[320 Years of History]

I'm all for change. Implementing and managing change is what I do for a living, but I do not advocate change merely for the sake of changing. Neither do I advocate not changing for its own sake.

As goes conservatism and change, I can't think of any one concept that is as antithetical to conservatism's ideals than is change. Conservatism is by definition resistance to and reticence for change.

The only change that Conservatives embrace is the change from Democratic control to Republican control. Think about Trump's slogan, "Make America Great Again" and then ask yourself how does he want to do it. The answer is he wants to implement policies similar to those we had some 50 or more years ago. Sure, strictly speaking, that's change from what we have now, but considered in totality, it's a regressing not advancing. That is not the sort of change I'm keen to embrace.

Or 8 years ago...worked great.

I'm sorry. I don't know what you mean by your remark.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

Change. If the people want change; they will vote for Trump. All the drama between Election Day, and now won't change that.
If the people want more of the same old shit they've been getting these past eight years; they will vote for Clinton. None of the crimes and scandals revealed between then, and now will change that.
That's all this election boils down to. And come November; the only choice really being made is; continue the status quo, or change. It really is that simple.

stupidity

The one thing is stupidity ?

I agree.

We are stupid for having these two morons in the top ticket spots.

 

[Iceweasel]

Change. If the people want change; they will vote for Trump. All the drama between Election Day, and now won't change that.
If the people want more of the same old shit they've been getting these past eight years; they will vote for Clinton. None of the crimes and scandals revealed between then, and now will change that.
That's all this election boils down to. And come November; the only choice really being made is; continue the status quo, or change. It really is that simple.

You can’t be serious.

Trump and the conservatives who support him are frightened by change, hostile toward diversity, dissent, and individual liberty; hostile toward Muslims, Hispanic Americans, and immigrants.

The last thing America needs is Trump’s reactionary politics of division, bigotry, and hate.

The only ‘change’ Trump advocates for is change for the worst – to return America to a time of fear and oppression, when citizens were disadvantaged for no other reason than who they are, a time when far too many Americans were denied their rights and protected liberties.

Your thread premise is as ridiculous as it is wrong.

We have the politics of division. And bigots and haters are anyone who disagree with progressives.

And to say that Conservatives have something against individual liberty is a huge lie. One of these liberties is expressing different opinions. Some of do not intend to give the country away so Democrats can buy votes from immigrants. You are just full of shit and completely in lock step with the people, in power now, that want to tell us what is good for us whether we like it or not.

Hillary is the continuation of division and the intimidation already levied against any conservative.

Half of them are deplorable, just as she said lol...Half the GOPers. And another quarter are lying thieving scumbags. See sig, last line. At least misinformed all to hell, and I mean hell. lol. See sig last line.

I have sigs displayed so I don't see the idiocy what you infest the forum with but you, like all leftists, have no problem dehumanizing many millions of Americans for failing to goosestep behind your monochromatic socialist drumbeat. So your insults fit you to a T.

 

[Rozman]

If Trump can get thrown by this Miss Universe thing and be rattled so badly
where he's seething at 3 AM and still hasn't let go days later....
Imagine how he would handle a real crisis....

The man is way too thin skinned,erratic,volatile,angry to be a person
for such a demanding job.

The World is watching and this man has a history of spewing nonsense.

What sort of trouble will he get this country into if he's bouncing off the walls in the residence
of the WH at 3 AM....and he starts making phone calls and giving orders in the dead of night.

Geeez people use some common sense here...

Worst case scenario Clinton does 4 years and Wonderful Donald would be 74 years old
and might have moved all his business ventures over to control of his kids and he will be living
it up bigly in Mother Russia that he seems to love so much.

 

[francoHFW]

I'm all for change. Implementing and managing change is what I do for a living, but I do not advocate change merely for the sake of changing. Neither do I advocate not changing for its own sake.

As goes conservatism and change, I can't think of any one concept that is as antithetical to conservatism's ideals than is change. Conservatism is by definition resistance to and reticence for change.

The only change that Conservatives embrace is the change from Democratic control to Republican control. Think about Trump's slogan, "Make America Great Again" and then ask yourself how does he want to do it. The answer is he wants to implement policies similar to those we had some 50 or more years ago. Sure, strictly speaking, that's change from what we have now, but considered in totality, it's a regressing not advancing. That is not the sort of change I'm keen to embrace.

Or 8 years ago...worked great.

I'm sorry. I don't know what you mean by your remark.

Same policies as Boooosh. Tax cuts for the rich, deregulation of Wall St. and big business, ugly American foreign policy. A catastrophe and no help for the nonrich etc...

 

[francoHFW]

Change. If the people want change; they will vote for Trump. All the drama between Election Day, and now won't change that.
If the people want more of the same old shit they've been getting these past eight years; they will vote for Clinton. None of the crimes and scandals revealed between then, and now will change that.
That's all this election boils down to. And come November; the only choice really being made is; continue the status quo, or change. It really is that simple.

You can’t be serious.

Trump and the conservatives who support him are frightened by change, hostile toward diversity, dissent, and individual liberty; hostile toward Muslims, Hispanic Americans, and immigrants.

The last thing America needs is Trump’s reactionary politics of division, bigotry, and hate.

The only ‘change’ Trump advocates for is change for the worst – to return America to a time of fear and oppression, when citizens were disadvantaged for no other reason than who they are, a time when far too many Americans were denied their rights and protected liberties.

Your thread premise is as ridiculous as it is wrong.

We have the politics of division. And bigots and haters are anyone who disagree with progressives.

And to say that Conservatives have something against individual liberty is a huge lie. One of these liberties is expressing different opinions. Some of do not intend to give the country away so Democrats can buy votes from immigrants. You are just full of shit and completely in lock step with the people, in power now, that want to tell us what is good for us whether we like it or not.

Hillary is the continuation of division and the intimidation already levied against any conservative.

Half of them are deplorable, just as she said lol...Half the GOPers. And another quarter are lying thieving scumbags. See sig, last line. At least misinformed all to hell, and I mean hell. lol. See sig last line.

I have sigs displayed so I don't see the idiocy what you infest the forum with but you, like all leftists, have no problem dehumanizing many millions of Americans for failing to goosestep behind your monochromatic socialist drumbeat. So your insults fit you to a T.

"I'm sorry- dupes are lovely people- but I can't take their lazy, ignorant, careless, stupid politics a minute longer. Sorry" Not exactly lol

 

[paulitician]

Well said. We're at war. It's a 'NWO Globalist Elites vs. The People' war. Or, 'Nationalism vs. Globalism.' And obviously, Clinton represents the NWO agenda. She's a corrupt George Soros lapdog. And so is Obama.

Trump is daring to advocate putting Americans first again. The Globalist Elites despise him for that. So, the OP is spot on. Hopefully Americans will choose to dump the Globalists, and go with something different. We'll see i guess.

 

[francoHFW]

Well said. We're at war. It's a 'NWO Globalist Elites vs. The People' war. Or, 'Nationalism vs. Globalism.' And obviously, Clinton represents the NWO agenda. She's a corrupt George Soros lapdog. And so is Obama.

Trump is daring to advocate putting Americans first again. The Globalist Elites despise him for that. So, the OP is spot on. Hopefully Americans will choose to dump the Globalists, and go with something different. We'll see i guess.

Globalism is just the natural result of the world getting smaller, new communications and transportation, losing menial manufacturing to cheaper labor. We have to invest in cheaper training and tech education to prepare for all the jobs that are the result of these new markets (3-6 million jobs going begging because of few trained applicants). The party of NO! has blocked their promised reform in this since NAFTA, all to save their greedy shortsighted megarich masters from paying their fair share. Great job!

 

[80zephyr]

exactly

Moose muffins. If you want to cut big money in politics, we need libs- All you care about is abortions? Thank God for free BC under O-Care- 40% less abortions already. You can have all the single mothers on welfare. Late term abortions are only when the mother's life is in danger, and FEW want that changed. Despite the mindless propaganda that dupes you.

Really?? Libs cut money in politics??? Hillary has spent over $200 Million trying to defeat Trump. Late term abortions? Hillary voted AGAINST limiting late term abortion while a Senator from New York. Perhaps you need to actually know what you are talking about before opening your mouth?

What put money in politics to the extent it is now was Citizens United-- a contrivance of the rabid right.

But don't think for a second that rightwingnuts can rig the game and democrats will turn around, go home and let the pondscum win.

Why the concern for Citizen's United? If this election shows anything, it shows that the amount of money spent does not correlate to votes.

Mark

why? are there going to be any more elections where the GOP nominates a carnival barker?

Deflection. Money is not buying this election, any more than Bush's money bought him the GOP nomination.

Mark

 

[francoHFW]

Trump is a FOS con man. No details, just parroting what RWers want to hear, destructive bs conspiracy theories and bromides.