This is the hill we must be willing to die on...

...if Trump loses this battle for the wall, he loses all credibility, and will not be re-elected in 2020.

We must support him on this, even if it means the federal government is shut down for many months.

If Trump signs "temporary funding" bills that don't include funding for a wall, that's a surrender so he can't agree to that.

I'm afraid the Democrats will be equally determined, because they've staked everything on their opposition to the wall, and if they back down, they lose all credibility.

I don't see how a compromise is possible.
If you`re scared build your own wall around your own house or trailer. Problem solved. You`re welcome. BTW, most illegals are not sneaking across the border.
Visa overstays now biggest problem in illegal immigration
 
...if Trump loses this battle for the wall, he loses all credibility, and will not be re-elected in 2020.

We must support him on this, even if it means the federal government is shut down for many months.

If Trump signs "temporary funding" bills that don't include funding for a wall, that's a surrender so he can't agree to that.

I'm afraid the Democrats will be equally determined, because they've staked everything on their opposition to the wall, and if they back down, they lose all credibility.

I don't see how a compromise is possible.
If you`re scared build your own wall around your own house or trailer. Problem solved. You`re welcome. BTW, most illegals are not sneaking across the border.
Visa overstays now biggest problem in illegal immigration

Visa over-stayers tend to not be the hardened criminal type as a general rule as well.

"Most" meaning 60% are visa overstays and 40% are border jumpers.

Mr. Trump, build that wall!
 
If the government is shut down, Congress shouldn't get paid.

uh-oh, marion.... you better be careful - you are in agreement with that radical liberal extremist commie socialist A.O. Cortez...

I may not agree with all her views, but she's like a wrecking ball up in there and I love it! I do agree with that one. :funnyface:

She's fresh out of school and idealistic. That's not the 1st thing she's said about what's going on. :iyfyus.jpg:

Yes...AOC will prove to be a nightmare to
All entrenched solons regardless of Party.
This should be fun to watch.

Jo
 
If the government is shut down, Congress shouldn't get paid.

uh-oh, marion.... you better be careful - you are in agreement with that radical liberal extremist commie socialist A.O. Cortez...

I may not agree with all her views, but she's like a wrecking ball up in there and I love it! I do agree with that one. :funnyface:

She's fresh out of school and idealistic. That's not the 1st thing she's said about what's going on. :iyfyus.jpg:

Yes...AOC will prove to be a nightmare to
All entrenched solons regardless of Party.
This should be fun to watch.

Jo

she will have 2 years to prove herself - & being that she is a rep - she will be there to rep the people who elected her.
 
If the government is shut down, Congress shouldn't get paid.

uh-oh, marion.... you better be careful - you are in agreement with that radical liberal extremist commie socialist A.O. Cortez...

I may not agree with all her views, but she's like a wrecking ball up in there and I love it! I do agree with that one. :funnyface:

She's fresh out of school and idealistic. That's not the 1st thing she's said about what's going on. :iyfyus.jpg:

Yes...AOC will prove to be a nightmare to
All entrenched solons regardless of Party.
This should be fun to watch.

Jo

she will have 2 years to prove herself - & being that she is a rep - she will be there to rep the people who elected her.

Her appearance on the scene transcends the simplicity of a two-year term. AOC marks
a significant turning point in American politics. I know she has electoral constituents but I think you will find that she has already accelerated beyond that point. Similar to Elizabeth Warren who does nothing at all for Massachusetts but is still wildly popular here. AOC is the Clarion call for the final breakup of the old left wing guard. Goodnight Nancy Pelosi.

Jo
 
If the government is shut down, Congress shouldn't get paid.

uh-oh, marion.... you better be careful - you are in agreement with that radical liberal extremist commie socialist A.O. Cortez...

I may not agree with all her views, but she's like a wrecking ball up in there and I love it! I do agree with that one. :funnyface:

She's fresh out of school and idealistic. That's not the 1st thing she's said about what's going on. :iyfyus.jpg:

Yes...AOC will prove to be a nightmare to
All entrenched solons regardless of Party.
This should be fun to watch.

Jo

I called it! She'll end up doing more good than bad. Wrecking ball up in there. ;)

In b4 she says "What is this Lobbying/Bribery stuff? That's not right." :auiqs.jpg:

She kinda already did. :abgg2q.jpg:
 
If the government is shut down, Congress shouldn't get paid.

uh-oh, marion.... you better be careful - you are in agreement with that radical liberal extremist commie socialist A.O. Cortez...

I may not agree with all her views, but she's like a wrecking ball up in there and I love it! I do agree with that one. :funnyface:

She's fresh out of school and idealistic. That's not the 1st thing she's said about what's going on. :iyfyus.jpg:

Yes...AOC will prove to be a nightmare to
All entrenched solons regardless of Party.
This should be fun to watch.

Jo

she will have 2 years to prove herself - & being that she is a rep - she will be there to rep the people who elected her.

Her appearance on the scene transcends the simplicity of a two-year term. AOC marks
a significant turning point in American politics. I know she has electoral contituents but I think you will find that she has already
accelerated beyond that point. Similar to Elizabeth Warren who does nothing at all for Massachusetts but is still wildly popular here. AOC is the Clarion call for the final breakup of the old left wing guard. Goodnight Nancy Pelosi.

Jo

i have no problem with pelosi going away. i lost all respect for her when she took the impeachment of W off the table. she is a corporate 'limo' (D).... however, me thinx she understands the direction (D)s are going - back to the days of representing the 'working man'. BUT apparently she knows how to deal & cortez also is smart enough to know baby steps first.
 
uh-oh, marion.... you better be careful - you are in agreement with that radical liberal extremist commie socialist A.O. Cortez...

I may not agree with all her views, but she's like a wrecking ball up in there and I love it! I do agree with that one. :funnyface:

She's fresh out of school and idealistic. That's not the 1st thing she's said about what's going on. :iyfyus.jpg:

Yes...AOC will prove to be a nightmare to
All entrenched solons regardless of Party.
This should be fun to watch.

Jo

she will have 2 years to prove herself - & being that she is a rep - she will be there to rep the people who elected her.

Her appearance on the scene transcends the simplicity of a two-year term. AOC marks
a significant turning point in American politics. I know she has electoral contituents but I think you will find that she has already
accelerated beyond that point. Similar to Elizabeth Warren who does nothing at all for Massachusetts but is still wildly popular here. AOC is the Clarion call for the final breakup of the old left wing guard. Goodnight Nancy Pelosi.

Jo

i have no problem with pelosi going away. i lost all respect for her when she took the impeachment of W off the table. she is a corporate 'limo' (D).... however, me thinx she understands the direction (D)s are going - back to the days of representing the 'working man'. BUT apparently she knows how to deal & cortez also is smart enough to know baby steps first.

Cortez will take three or four baby steps
Then she will put on a huge steel-toed Jack
boot and start stepping on piss-ants...she will do this not as a rep or a DC politico....she will do this as an agent of change drawing on the unstoppable power of a grass roots uprising. Pelosi has met her match not because Cortez is smart or tough or even motivated but because she is the spearhead.

Jo
 
We
If the government is shut down, Congress shouldn't get paid.

uh-oh, marion.... you better be careful - you are in agreement with that radical liberal extremist commie socialist A.O. Cortez...

I may not agree with all her views, but she's like a wrecking ball up in there and I love it! I do agree with that one. :funnyface:

She's fresh out of school and idealistic. That's not the 1st thing she's said about what's going on. :iyfyus.jpg:

Yes...AOC will prove to be a nightmare to
All entrenched solons regardless of Party.
This should be fun to watch.

Jo

I called it! She'll end up doing more good than bad. Wrecking ball up in there. ;)

In b4 she says "What is this Lobbying/Bribery stuff? That's not right." :auiqs.jpg:

She kinda already did. :abgg2q.jpg:

She's a little nutty but I don't disagree with everything she says. She better watch out though. They'll be searching through her personal history with a fine tooth comb. Unfortunately for them she's such a kid she doesn't have much of personal history. Lol.

Jo
 
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...if Trump loses this battle for the wall, he loses all credibility, and will not be re-elected in 2020.

We must support him on this, even if it means the federal government is shut down for many months.

If Trump signs "temporary funding" bills that don't include funding for a wall, that's a surrender so he can't agree to that.

I'm afraid the Democrats will be equally determined, because they've staked everything on their opposition to the wall, and if they back down, they lose all credibility.

I don't see how a compromise is possible.
If you`re scared build your own wall around your own house or trailer. Problem solved. You`re welcome. BTW, most illegals are not sneaking across the border.
Visa overstays now biggest problem in illegal immigration

Visa over-stayers tend to not be the hardened criminal type as a general rule as well.

"Most" meaning 60% are visa overstays and 40% are border jumpers.

Mr. Trump, build that wall!

Really? Didn’t the 9/11 terrorists come in on Student visas?
 
...if Trump loses this battle for the wall, he loses all credibility, and will not be re-elected in 2020.

We must support him on this, even if it means the federal government is shut down for many months.

If Trump signs "temporary funding" bills that don't include funding for a wall, that's a surrender so he can't agree to that.

I'm afraid the Democrats will be equally determined, because they've staked everything on their opposition to the wall, and if they back down, they lose all credibility.

I don't see how a compromise is possible.
If you`re scared build your own wall around your own house or trailer. Problem solved. You`re welcome. BTW, most illegals are not sneaking across the border.
Visa overstays now biggest problem in illegal immigration

Visa over-stayers tend to not be the hardened criminal type as a general rule as well.

"Most" meaning 60% are visa overstays and 40% are border jumpers.

Mr. Trump, build that wall!

Really? Didn’t the 9/11 terrorists come in on Student visas?

Yes they did, and all the signs were there, but the government agency responsible for anti-terrorism did nothing. So, let's make a couple more government agencies to do the job we were already paying one to do that failed. I suppose so they can get paid and fail, too. Oh yeah, and infringe on citizens' rights.

:cuckoo:
 
...if Trump loses this battle for the wall, he loses all credibility, and will not be re-elected in 2020.

We must support him on this, even if it means the federal government is shut down for many months.

If Trump signs "temporary funding" bills that don't include funding for a wall, that's a surrender so he can't agree to that.

I'm afraid the Democrats will be equally determined, because they've staked everything on their opposition to the wall, and if they back down, they lose all credibility.

I don't see how a compromise is possible.
If you`re scared build your own wall around your own house or trailer. Problem solved. You`re welcome. BTW, most illegals are not sneaking across the border.
Visa overstays now biggest problem in illegal immigration

Visa over-stayers tend to not be the hardened criminal type as a general rule as well.

"Most" meaning 60% are visa overstays and 40% are border jumpers.

Mr. Trump, build that wall!

Really? Didn’t the 9/11 terrorists come in on Student visas?

Yes they did, and all the signs were there, but the government agency responsible for anti-terrorism did nothing. So, let's make a couple more government agencies to do the job we were already paying one to do that failed. I suppose so they can get paid and fail, too. Oh yeah, and infringe on citizens' rights.

:cuckoo:

Why waste $40 billion on a wall that doesn’t work and isn’t needed?
 
...if Trump loses this battle for the wall, he loses all credibility, and will not be re-elected in 2020.

We must support him on this, even if it means the federal government is shut down for many months.

If Trump signs "temporary funding" bills that don't include funding for a wall, that's a surrender so he can't agree to that.

I'm afraid the Democrats will be equally determined, because they've staked everything on their opposition to the wall, and if they back down, they lose all credibility.

I don't see how a compromise is possible.
If you`re scared build your own wall around your own house or trailer. Problem solved. You`re welcome. BTW, most illegals are not sneaking across the border.
Visa overstays now biggest problem in illegal immigration

Visa over-stayers tend to not be the hardened criminal type as a general rule as well.

"Most" meaning 60% are visa overstays and 40% are border jumpers.

Mr. Trump, build that wall!

Really? Didn’t the 9/11 terrorists come in on Student visas?

Yes they did, and all the signs were there, but the government agency responsible for anti-terrorism did nothing. So, let's make a couple more government agencies to do the job we were already paying one to do that failed. I suppose so they can get paid and fail, too. Oh yeah, and infringe on citizens' rights.

:cuckoo:

Why waste $40 billion on a wall that doesn’t work and isn’t needed?

What do you mean "waste"? A wall will pay for itself within 3 years.

Why waste more than $40 billion on government agencies to do what you were already paying one to do and didn't?
 
If you`re scared build your own wall around your own house or trailer. Problem solved. You`re welcome. BTW, most illegals are not sneaking across the border.
Visa overstays now biggest problem in illegal immigration

Visa over-stayers tend to not be the hardened criminal type as a general rule as well.

"Most" meaning 60% are visa overstays and 40% are border jumpers.

Mr. Trump, build that wall!

Really? Didn’t the 9/11 terrorists come in on Student visas?

Yes they did, and all the signs were there, but the government agency responsible for anti-terrorism did nothing. So, let's make a couple more government agencies to do the job we were already paying one to do that failed. I suppose so they can get paid and fail, too. Oh yeah, and infringe on citizens' rights.

:cuckoo:

Why waste $40 billion on a wall that doesn’t work and isn’t needed?

What do you mean "waste"? A wall will pay for itself within 3 years.

Why waste more than $40 billion on government agencies to do what you were already paying one to do and didn't?

I agree. Five billion for the wall is cheap when you consider the billions illegals cost we the tax payer every year.

Build the wall so no more can get in. Once its built we can booth those that are here out. They won't be able to get back in.

Win, win for the tax payers.
 
Wait until Speaker Pelosi finishes with Trump.

Your signature pic is so Biblically illiterate I wonder if it's supposed to be a joke. I mean not just a joke on Trump but a joke on how Biblically illiterate the person hosting the picture is.

The Mark of the Beast indicates that you follow a human leader; it is a mark on the forehead or right hand that is NOT a HAT for pity's sake. Without it, you cannot engage in any commerce; you are basically stricken from society. Is that what you're saying? People without Trump hats cannot buy and sell? Because you know the opposite is happening.

Not to mention the hat is not a "mark" that is indelible. It's a HAT. You take it off.

Wow
Our favorite injun in action...LOL.
 
Yes, that's a good boy....there there.....soothe yourself
When people like you can actually post decent facts on the subject........get back with me.........Your lame troll posts are disregarded.
Please....as if any amount of facts would sway you from your delusional Trump cultism...go ahead and look up the court battles already beginning .. or don't, nobody really expects any of you goobers to know anything about anything...


Hey, FF.

Trump is OUR President , and we are HIS people. President Trump is concerned that our borders are sieves with millions of Illegals invading America.

Why are you against a wall to protect people like Office Singh in Newman, CA or Kate Steinle in San Francisco?

Maybe a wall wouldn't stop everyone , but it would stop some.

What should Trump do instead? Increase unemployment among minorities to Obama levels? Reduce our growth rate? Work hard to make America a Shithole that no one wants to come to and people want to leave?
Why aren't those responsible for hiring illegals being held responsible? Could it be because one of them is your orange god?

Orange god is light years better than (half)black god.
For white supremacists, sure.
 
Wait until Speaker Pelosi finishes with Trump.

Your signature pic is so Biblically illiterate I wonder if it's supposed to be a joke. I mean not just a joke on Trump but a joke on how Biblically illiterate the person hosting the picture is.

The Mark of the Beast indicates that you follow a human leader; it is a mark on the forehead or right hand that is NOT a HAT for pity's sake. Without it, you cannot engage in any commerce; you are basically stricken from society. Is that what you're saying? People without Trump hats cannot buy and sell? Because you know the opposite is happening.

Not to mention the hat is not a "mark" that is indelible. It's a HAT. You take it off.

Wow
Our favorite injun in action...LOL.


Columbus was hopelessly lost wasn't he.
 
...if Trump loses this battle for the wall, he loses all credibility, and will not be re-elected in 2020.

We must support him on this, even if it means the federal government is shut down for many months.

If Trump signs "temporary funding" bills that don't include funding for a wall, that's a surrender so he can't agree to that.

I'm afraid the Democrats will be equally determined, because they've staked everything on their opposition to the wall, and if they back down, they lose all credibility.

I don't see how a compromise is possible.

Why do you support someone like Trump? What values do you and he have in common?
 
The federal deficit was declining when the Republicans took over Congress.

Since then, with Trump's help, they have DOUBLED the deficit.

usdeficits.jpg



So "revitalize" means "throwing out every conservative principle we ever held".


I will laugh my ass off every time some dumb fuck says Trump and/or the Republicans are for small government.


What they mean by small government isn't want the rest of us mean.

They mean they don't want to pay any taxes.

They don't want to properly financially support the nation. They do want to spend like drunken sailors. They just don't want to pay for what they buy,.
 

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