This is what atheist believe? Atheist believe that nothing created everything

[Hollie]

Knowing that a dog's, or a chimpanzee's brain are made from the same stuff as a human brain isn't it reasonable to think that even the human brain has a limit as to what types of information is can process?

Exactly

We cannot understand Creation and yet it happened

Looking at nature its obvious to me that there must be a Creator

We could not have come to exist though dumb luck as Darwin claims

Some higher intelligence must be responsible

I see no reason why creation, meaning the beginning of the universe, is something humanity can never understand.

I see nothing in nature that points to any creator. In any event, any creator implies a hierarchy of creators.

lastly, Darwin never made any claims to dumb luck about a force of nature. In fact, his theory proposed clearly identifiable circumstances that guided the evolution of species.

The universe can not actually have a beginning, perhaps the current phase that we are in had a beginning but the matter always had to exist.

Or you can babble that everything just popped into existence because nothing wanted to make a universe.

That is pure non scientific babble

You makes statements presuming 100% certainty supported by 0% facts.

Again atheist believe that everything was produced by nothing.

Those are your facts

Play on

Religionist make nonsense statements unsupported by facts.

Atheist make the statement not supported by fact that nothing created everything.

This is fact

So did you pick a cannabis equity yet?

You’re repeating a falsehood. That’s dishonest.

Again it is a fact that atheist believe that nothing created everything. This is fact not a falsehood, you are having emotional difficulties repeating the nonsense that you actually spew

Your version of facts have a real disconnect from reality.

Did you learn such hate and dishonesty from your religion?

 

[alang1216]

Again it is a fact that atheist believe that nothing created everything. This is fact not a falsehood, you are having emotional difficulties repeating the nonsense that you actually spew

This atheist believes no such thing. I believe there was a universe of something before the Big Bang, I just don't know what it was. Maybe you should listen to what atheists are saying instead of what theists are saying about atheists.

 

[zaangalewa]

The Michelson-Morley-experiment (1881+1887) "declared" Aether superflous.

Wrong. Michelson-Morley simply failed to prove (conclusively) that the Aether existed as they imagined it. After tons more study, continuing to this day, the Aether has now been detected with far more sensitive equipment mostly looking for it moving vertically to the Earth's surface.

And if it exists: What form of influence has this what you call a kind of version 2 from Aether?

First, look it up. Admit you were wrong. Then we might chat further..

Aha - you have absolutelly not any idea what you try to say.

 

[Grumblenuts]

Is aether another name for the fabric of space? If not what does it do for us?

It's the original "fabric of space" and.. Everything. Why, what does a "fabric of space" do for you?

 

[zaangalewa]

Again it is a fact that atheist believe that nothing created everything. This is fact not a falsehood, you are having emotional difficulties repeating the nonsense that you actually spew

This atheist believes no such thing. I believe there was a universe of something before the Big Bang, I just don't know what it was. Maybe you should listen to what atheists are saying instead of what theists are saying about atheists.

And why do you believe in a before before the first before?

 

[Mac-7]

Again it is a fact that atheist believe that nothing created everything. This is fact not a falsehood, you are having emotional difficulties repeating the nonsense that you actually spew

I agree with Blueman who said, though not in these exact words, that the idea of eternity boggles the mind

Even libs who pride themselves in knowing everything about everything cant wrap their brain around that one

 

[Mac-7]

Again it is a fact that atheist believe that nothing created everything. This is fact not a falsehood, you are having emotional difficulties repeating the nonsense that you actually spew

This atheist believes no such thing. I believe there was a universe of something before the Big Bang, I just don't know what it was. Maybe you should listen to what atheists are saying instead of what theists are saying about atheists.

If you cant explain creation of the universe, and what existed before the universe, how can you be an atheist?

 

[Grumblenuts]

The Michelson-Morley-experiment (1881+1887) "declared" Aether superflous.

Wrong. Michelson-Morley simply failed to prove (conclusively) that the Aether existed as they imagined it. After tons more study, continuing to this day, the Aether has now been detected with far more sensitive equipment mostly looking for it moving vertically to the Earth's surface.

And if it exists: What form of influence has this what you call a kind of version 2 from Aether?

First, look it up. Admit you were wrong. Then we might chat further..

Aha - you have absolutelly not any idea what you try to say.

I say piss off.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

This is what atheist believe?

No, it’s not – the thread premise is a lie.

Those free from religion acknowledge the fact that there is no ‘god’ as perceived by theists, and the fact that no omnipotent deity ‘created’ the universe.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

You really need to move your proselytizing to the religion forum.

I thought that nothing creating everything was considered science?

LOL you are a clueless buffoon who does not even know what you believe yourself

There’s no evidence of ‘thought’ in the thread premise.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Its better to eventually have an answer based on facts and observation than an expedient answer that we all know in our hearts is based on superstition.

Is it?

Some people are SO POSITIVE that there is no God

In fact they insist on it

But yet they cant prove the believers wrong

Belief in an omnipotent deity is the aberration, a recent contrivance more the product of politics than religion.

 

[Grumblenuts]

This is what atheist believe?

No, it’s not – the thread premise is a lie.

Those free from religion acknowledge the fact that there is no ‘god’ as perceived by theists, and the fact that no omnipotent deity ‘created’ the universe.

At least there exists no compelling, scientific evidence supporting the existence of such beings. We are vastly agnostics as well.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

So….. you acknowledge you’re unable not just to prove your gods but are unable to offer any evidence of your version of gods so you deflect with an obtuse response.

I have no "proof". I can offer evidence, but atheists won't accept it.

Actually Hollie is the one who needs to offer the evidence that ponds created everything

This post is evidence of the sophistry that his theism.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Knowing that a dog's, or a chimpanzee's brain are made from the same stuff as a human brain isn't it reasonable to think that even the human brain has a limit as to what types of information is can process?

Exactly

We cannot understand Creation and yet it happened

Looking at nature its obvious to me that there must be a Creator

We could not have come to exist though dumb luck as Darwin claims

Some higher intelligence must be responsible

This fails as an appeal to ignorance fallacy.

That the origins of the universe might be currently unknown doesn’t mean ‘god’ is the ‘answer.’

 

[ding]

Knowing that a dog's, or a chimpanzee's brain are made from the same stuff as a human brain isn't it reasonable to think that even the human brain has a limit as to what types of information is can process?

Exactly

We cannot understand Creation and yet it happened

Looking at nature its obvious to me that there must be a Creator

We could not have come to exist though dumb luck as Darwin claims

Some higher intelligence must be responsible

I see no reason why creation, meaning the beginning of the universe, is something humanity can never understand.

I see nothing in nature that points to any creator. In any event, any creator implies a hierarchy of creators.

lastly, Darwin never made any claims to dumb luck about a force of nature. In fact, his theory proposed clearly identifiable circumstances that guided the evolution of species.

The universe can not actually have a beginning, perhaps the current phase that we are in had a beginning but the matter always had to exist.

Or you can babble that everything just popped into existence because nothing wanted to make a universe.

That is pure non scientific babble

There is no scientific theory that the universe had a beginning.

I am not babbling that everything popped into existence. You are the one claiming scientists claim that. They don't.

There are only two possibilities and these possibilities have been debated since man first became aware; the universe began or the universe has always existed.

The latter just isn't possible for a number of good reasons and the former has been proven through observations.

Actually the latter is quite possible as if the universe was not here then it must have been created by some means. Not meaning God either but something has to come from somewhere

Infinite time is a funny thing. Eventually matter equilibrates which is especially true for an infinite acting universe. That's one problem. The second problem is the cosmic background radiation. Which was created from mutual annihilation of paired production. There's no other explanation for it except that space and time were created from nothing. The third problem is how matter is converted into radiation in stars during the process of creating light which would eventually lead to a universe filled only with radiation. But the biggest problem is that the universe is expanding. If you follow it backwards in time, then any object must come to a boundary of space time. You cannot continue that history indefinitely. This is still true even if a universe has periods of contraction. It still has to have a beginning if expansion over weights the contraction. Physicists have been uncomfortable with the idea of a beginning since the work of Friedman which showed that the solutions of Einstein's equation showed that the universe had a beginning.

 

[Dusty]

Knowing that a dog's, or a chimpanzee's brain are made from the same stuff as a human brain isn't it reasonable to think that even the human brain has a limit as to what types of information is can process?

Exactly

We cannot understand Creation and yet it happened

Looking at nature its obvious to me that there must be a Creator

We could not have come to exist though dumb luck as Darwin claims

Some higher intelligence must be responsible

I see no reason why creation, meaning the beginning of the universe, is something humanity can never understand.

I see nothing in nature that points to any creator. In any event, any creator implies a hierarchy of creators.

lastly, Darwin never made any claims to dumb luck about a force of nature. In fact, his theory proposed clearly identifiable circumstances that guided the evolution of species.

The universe can not actually have a beginning, perhaps the current phase that we are in had a beginning but the matter always had to exist.

Or you can babble that everything just popped into existence because nothing wanted to make a universe.

That is pure non scientific babble

You makes statements presuming 100% certainty supported by 0% facts.

Again atheist believe that everything was produced by nothing.

Those are your facts

Play on

Religionist make nonsense statements unsupported by facts.

Atheist make the statement not supported by fact that nothing created everything.

This is fact

So did you pick a cannabis equity yet?

You’re repeating a falsehood. That’s dishonest.

Again it is a fact that atheist believe that nothing created everything. This is fact not a falsehood, you are having emotional difficulties repeating the nonsense that you actually spew

Your version of facts have a real disconnect from reality.

Did you learn such hate and dishonesty from your religion?

Again atheist believe that everything that is, was created from nothing. Atheist believe that life created itself when nothing just turned into everything. Not sure why you are having so much difficulty accepting what you say that you believe.

 

[Dusty]

Knowing that a dog's, or a chimpanzee's brain are made from the same stuff as a human brain isn't it reasonable to think that even the human brain has a limit as to what types of information is can process?

Exactly

We cannot understand Creation and yet it happened

Looking at nature its obvious to me that there must be a Creator

We could not have come to exist though dumb luck as Darwin claims

Some higher intelligence must be responsible

I see no reason why creation, meaning the beginning of the universe, is something humanity can never understand.

I see nothing in nature that points to any creator. In any event, any creator implies a hierarchy of creators.

lastly, Darwin never made any claims to dumb luck about a force of nature. In fact, his theory proposed clearly identifiable circumstances that guided the evolution of species.

The universe can not actually have a beginning, perhaps the current phase that we are in had a beginning but the matter always had to exist.

Or you can babble that everything just popped into existence because nothing wanted to make a universe.

That is pure non scientific babble

There is no scientific theory that the universe had a beginning.

I am not babbling that everything popped into existence. You are the one claiming scientists claim that. They don't.

There are only two possibilities and these possibilities have been debated since man first became aware; the universe began or the universe has always existed.

The latter just isn't possible for a number of good reasons and the former has been proven through observations.

Actually the latter is quite possible as if the universe was not here then it must have been created by some means. Not meaning God either but something has to come from somewhere

Infinite time is a funny thing. Eventually matter equilibrates which is especially true for an infinite acting universe. That's one problem. The second problem is the cosmic background radiation. Which was created from mutual annihilation of paired production. There's no other explanation for it except that space and time were created from nothing. The third problem is how matter is converted into radiation in stars during the process of creating light which would eventually lead to a universe filled only with radiation. But the biggest problem is that the universe is expanding. If you follow it backwards in time, then any object must come to a boundary of space time. You cannot continue that history indefinitely. This is still true even if a universe has periods of contraction. It still has to have a beginning if expansion over weights the contraction. Physicists have been uncomfortable with the idea of a beginning since the work of Friedman which showed that the solutions of Einstein's equation showed that the universe had a beginning.

The cosmic background radiation is not a problem, it is an unexplained observation.

 

[Mac-7]

Belief in an omnipotent deity is the aberration, a recent contrivance more the product of politics than religion.

Recent meaning 4,000 years?

Thats not so recent

 

[ding]

Knowing that a dog's, or a chimpanzee's brain are made from the same stuff as a human brain isn't it reasonable to think that even the human brain has a limit as to what types of information is can process?

Exactly

We cannot understand Creation and yet it happened

Looking at nature its obvious to me that there must be a Creator

We could not have come to exist though dumb luck as Darwin claims

Some higher intelligence must be responsible

I see no reason why creation, meaning the beginning of the universe, is something humanity can never understand.

I see nothing in nature that points to any creator. In any event, any creator implies a hierarchy of creators.

lastly, Darwin never made any claims to dumb luck about a force of nature. In fact, his theory proposed clearly identifiable circumstances that guided the evolution of species.

The universe can not actually have a beginning, perhaps the current phase that we are in had a beginning but the matter always had to exist.

Or you can babble that everything just popped into existence because nothing wanted to make a universe.

That is pure non scientific babble

There is no scientific theory that the universe had a beginning.

I am not babbling that everything popped into existence. You are the one claiming scientists claim that. They don't.

There are only two possibilities and these possibilities have been debated since man first became aware; the universe began or the universe has always existed.

The latter just isn't possible for a number of good reasons and the former has been proven through observations.

Actually the latter is quite possible as if the universe was not here then it must have been created by some means. Not meaning God either but something has to come from somewhere

Infinite time is a funny thing. Eventually matter equilibrates which is especially true for an infinite acting universe. That's one problem. The second problem is the cosmic background radiation. Which was created from mutual annihilation of paired production. There's no other explanation for it except that space and time were created from nothing. The third problem is how matter is converted into radiation in stars during the process of creating light which would eventually lead to a universe filled only with radiation. But the biggest problem is that the universe is expanding. If you follow it backwards in time, then any object must come to a boundary of space time. You cannot continue that history indefinitely. This is still true even if a universe has periods of contraction. It still has to have a beginning if expansion over weights the contraction. Physicists have been uncomfortable with the idea of a beginning since the work of Friedman which showed that the solutions of Einstein's equation showed that the universe had a beginning.

The cosmic background radiation is not a problem, it is an unexplained observation.

It's totally explained. It's radiation that was created from matter - antimatter annihilations in the very early universe which decoupled from matter when the universe cooled enough.

The Early Universe

pages.uoregon.edu

 

[Mac-7]

That the origins of the universe might be currently unknown doesn’t mean ‘god’ is the ‘answer.’

Atheists claim there is no God

How do they know that?