This is Why, Despite Everything Else, I am Willing to Vote for Bernie Sanders.

[JimBowie1958]

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But it is coming, and that is what so many conservatives dont realize.

The so-called Third Industrial Revolution, aka the digital revolution, is diminishing jobs, not increasing them because so many more jobs are replaced by automation than is created for the engineers that make, maintain and design them.

So projected another forty years into the future and we are going to have about 90% real unemployment, and what do conservatives do during that transition?

Stamp their feet and scream, 'That is Unconstitutional?' Feeding starving people will always trump abstract framework to government in a democratic process.

Republicans need to adjust for this inevitable change, and one way to adjust is to delay the process by restricting jobs to Americans as much as possible and compel corporations to retrain Americans as necessary instead of importing foreign serfs.

 

[Katzndogz]

Between Sanders and Isis, I'd take Isis.

thats because you hate this country.....you also would like china to move in to subjugate us...

China could not be worse than democrats.

 

[Blackrook]

Bernie Sanders is 74-years-old and could drop dead or become incapacitated with illness at any time.

 

[Weatherman2020]

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But it is coming, and that is what so many conservatives dont realize.

The so-called Third Industrial Revolution, aka the digital revolution, is diminishing jobs, not increasing them because so many more jobs are replaced by automation than is created for the engineers that make, maintain and design them.

So projected another forty years into the future and we are going to have about 90% real unemployment, and what do conservatives do during that transition?

Stamp their feet and scream, 'That is Unconstitutional?' Feeding starving people will always trump abstract framework to government in a democratic process.

Republicans need to adjust for this inevitable change, and one way to adjust is to delay the process by restricting jobs to Americans as much as possible and compel corporations to retrain Americans as necessary instead of importing foreign serfs.

All those dang horseless carriages are putting wagon makers, farriers, tack manufacturers out of business.

 

[MikeK]

I support many of Sanders proposals

I just don't think he has a prayer of getting them implemented

The guy does care about struggling Americans though and I respect that

i would trust hillary to fuck us behind our backs,bernie not so much....

We can count on that -- as is assured by the presence of the sleazy, degenerate sonofabitch, Slick Willie, standing behind her. If Hillary wins it will be Bill Clinton's third term and the banks and Wall Street will put the finishing touches on the middle class.

 

[JimBowie1958]

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But it is coming, and that is what so many conservatives dont realize.

The so-called Third Industrial Revolution, aka the digital revolution, is diminishing jobs, not increasing them because so many more jobs are replaced by automation than is created for the engineers that make, maintain and design them.

So projected another forty years into the future and we are going to have about 90% real unemployment, and what do conservatives do during that transition?

Stamp their feet and scream, 'That is Unconstitutional?' Feeding starving people will always trump abstract framework to government in a democratic process.

Republicans need to adjust for this inevitable change, and one way to adjust is to delay the process by restricting jobs to Americans as much as possible and compel corporations to retrain Americans as necessary instead of importing foreign serfs.

All those dang horseless carriages are putting wagon makers, farriers, tack manufacturers out of business.

Economic change caused by technological change is quite different from technological change itself.

No matter what you may think the cause, a 90% unemployment rate means that socialism is our fate for the rest of this century, unless something can be done.

We cant all be brilliant genius computer developers, you know. Those of us with IQs under 120 have to toil for our bread.

That means that the rest of us will organize to represent our interests, off setting the monetary advantages of those with jobs and businesses, and we will again spread the wealth on a massive scale like we did in the 1930s through 1970s.

 

[Harry Dresden]

Between Sanders and Isis, I'd take Isis.

thats because you hate this country.....you also would like china to move in to subjugate us...

China could not be worse than democrats.

proving what i say about you yet again....

 

[JimBowie1958]

Between Sanders and Isis, I'd take Isis.

thats because you hate this country.....you also would like china to move in to subjugate us...

China could not be worse than democrats.

proving what i say about you yet again....

Not sure why you partisan hacks like to polarize the discourse so much.

There is no equivalence between the Chicoms and Sanders, not in any way, shape or form, but painting all socialism as Marxism is a standard neocon ploy.

 

[Harry Dresden]

Between Sanders and Isis, I'd take Isis.

thats because you hate this country.....you also would like china to move in to subjugate us...

China could not be worse than democrats.

proving what i say about you yet again....

Not sure why you partisan hacks like to polarize the discourse so much.

There is no equivalence between the Chicoms and Sanders, not in any way, shape or form, but painting all socialism as Marxism is a standard neocon ploy.

lets see you prove im a partisan hack....give some examples....

 

[JimBowie1958]

Between Sanders and Isis, I'd take Isis.

thats because you hate this country.....you also would like china to move in to subjugate us...

China could not be worse than democrats.

proving what i say about you yet again....

Not sure why you partisan hacks like to polarize the discourse so much.

There is no equivalence between the Chicoms and Sanders, not in any way, shape or form, but painting all socialism as Marxism is a standard neocon ploy.

lets see you prove im a partisan hack....give some examples....

Hmmmm, no.....sorry, but I dont fetch on command, dude.

 

[I amso IR]

We have a political system that is broken, subverted by corporate money and that no longer listens to the American people. We have millions of American citizens looking for jobs and cant get any, while our politicians still let in hundreds of thousands of cheap foreign laborers that take our jobs and let currently hired Americans get fired and compelled to train their foreign replacements. This is in direct violation of what the guest worker programs were intended for and they are so heavily abused that I am in favor of simply dismantling those programs across the board until every American that wants a job can get one. Fuck the corporations that would rather hire some liar from Hyderabad and leave American veterans unemployed or even living on the streets homeless.

While more and more Americans were getting sloughed off the tally of 'employable Americans looking for work' so that Obama's Dhimmicrats could brag about lowering the Unemployment Rate, the feds were buying worthless securities from the major Wall Street banks that couldnt get rid of them. Oh yes, and the federal Reserve paid the Wall Street banks FACE VALUE for those equities. That is like me buying your old busted up truck that doesnt run anymore at the same price you bought it at brand new. That is the kind of thing only a crook would do as some sort of quid-pro-quo, not even the biggest idiot businessman would do something like that. And the total tally for this program, known as 'Quantitative Easing' was $4 TRILLION, that is right FOUR TRILLION US DOLLARS. The biggest robbery of the US government and this nation that it has ever seen.

My own experience that led me to think that I would put up with all of Sanders social issues fails is that these issues are not as important as my pocket book concerns because the GOP is not going to ever change any of this anyway. I worked from the day I turned 14 years old as a bus boy at a local restaurant and that does not include all the yards I mowed, garages I painted, fences I built prior to that. I love to work and a big slice of my self image has been built around my ability and readiness to get and hold a job.

But now I cannot get a job. I am 58 years old, I am coming off two years of disability, and I cannot even get an interview. Just called a former boss, who had given me several ataboys and a little statue, lol, to show their appreciation to me, and he has not yet returned my phone call. (Edit: he just called me about 30 minutes after I posted, lol) The glut of guest workers is so high that corporations do not have a single reason to give someone like me a shot at a job or even an interview.

So if this is how it is under corporate rule, I know I much prefer living under a barely functioning Sanders version of socialism instead. I gave the GOP decades of loyalty and all I got from them were broken promises, lies and smoke blown up my ass.

Since when did being a 'conservative' mean that you turned a blind eye to the plight of unfortunate fellow American veterans? I did not cause my two slipped discs, nor the idiocy of my doctor who failed to get me the MRIs I should have had from day One, nor why the moron took me off my disability even though my physical condition had only worsened until I healed up from my surgery from last September. And while I am ready and anxious to get back to my career, I dont have the opportunity because GOP RINOs have helped Obama to flood the country with guest workers. That is my fault? And yet I have no Unemployment, no welfare or help of any kind from the government; I have totally fallen through the cracks of the so-called 'Social Safety Net'.

There are many legitimate criticisms of Bernie Sanders but he has this going for him; he is an honest man of integrity who will place the highest priority to removing undo corporate influence from our political system and getting Americans back to work.

I am all for it despite the wacko-libtard social baggage that comes with it.

Do you honestly expect someone to read all that factual stuff. You gotta understand that we have significant others who are pissed at us for messing around. Our Direct TV is out due to inclement weather here in Colorado which really has the significant other really pissed. Please keep it short and sweet as I have attempted to do and perhaps have not done. Gotta go, hastily if not quickly. Aw man you got me in serious trouble!

 

[Harry Dresden]

thats because you hate this country.....you also would like china to move in to subjugate us...

China could not be worse than democrats.

proving what i say about you yet again....

Not sure why you partisan hacks like to polarize the discourse so much.

There is no equivalence between the Chicoms and Sanders, not in any way, shape or form, but painting all socialism as Marxism is a standard neocon ploy.

lets see you prove im a partisan hack....give some examples....

Hmmmm, no.....sorry, but I dont fetch on command, dude.

at least tell me which side im a hack for.....can you do that so i can at least have a good laugh?....

 

[JimBowie1958]

China could not be worse than democrats.

proving what i say about you yet again....

Not sure why you partisan hacks like to polarize the discourse so much.

There is no equivalence between the Chicoms and Sanders, not in any way, shape or form, but painting all socialism as Marxism is a standard neocon ploy.

lets see you prove im a partisan hack....give some examples....

Hmmmm, no.....sorry, but I dont fetch on command, dude.

at least tell me which side im a hack for.....can you do that so i can at least have a good laugh?....

for the GOP establishment, if I read you correctly.

 

[Harry Dresden]

proving what i say about you yet again....

Not sure why you partisan hacks like to polarize the discourse so much.

There is no equivalence between the Chicoms and Sanders, not in any way, shape or form, but painting all socialism as Marxism is a standard neocon ploy.

lets see you prove im a partisan hack....give some examples....

Hmmmm, no.....sorry, but I dont fetch on command, dude.

at least tell me which side im a hack for.....can you do that so i can at least have a good laugh?....

for the GOP establishment, if I read you correctly.

ask tipsy if she thinks im GOP....and when you get in the medical pot threads and the healthcare,unions,govt workers etc....ask the righties there who called me a "libturd" if i am a hack for the GOP.....im sure dean does,but then anyone who thinks he is a dick must be GOP,what else can you be.....i hate both parties jim.....i vote 3rd party and have since 2000.....this time around as well as many other times i will be writing in Rufus T. Firefly...."if your for it,im against it".....

 

[Katzndogz]

Not sure why you partisan hacks like to polarize the discourse so much.

There is no equivalence between the Chicoms and Sanders, not in any way, shape or form, but painting all socialism as Marxism is a standard neocon ploy.

lets see you prove im a partisan hack....give some examples....

Hmmmm, no.....sorry, but I dont fetch on command, dude.

at least tell me which side im a hack for.....can you do that so i can at least have a good laugh?....

for the GOP establishment, if I read you correctly.

ask tipsy if she thinks im GOP....and when you get in the medical pot threads and the healthcare,unions,govt workers etc....ask the righties there who called me a "libturd" if i am a hack for the GOP.....im sure dean does,but then anyone who thinks he is a dick must be GOP,what else can you be.....i hate both parties jim.....i vote 3rd party and have since 2000.....this time around as well as many other times i will be writing in Rufus T. Firefly...."if your for it,im against it".....

This might surprise you but I've never thought about you at all. Some people do fantasize about what others are like. I'm not one of them. I don't consider any of you really alive.

 

[jasonnfree]

Socialism doesn't work. It never has. Bernie Sanders as president be one more step towards destroying the country.

Social Security has been called socialism. It's worked for millions for the last almost eighty years. Maybe pure socialism wouldn't work, but we need a mix of socialism and capitalism.

 

[jasonnfree]

We have a political system that is broken, subverted by corporate money and that no longer listens to the American people. We have millions of American citizens looking for jobs and cant get any, while our politicians still let in hundreds of thousands of cheap foreign laborers that take our jobs and let currently hired Americans get fired and compelled to train their foreign replacements. This is in direct violation of what the guest worker programs were intended for and they are so heavily abused that I am in favor of simply dismantling those programs across the board until every American that wants a job can get one. Fuck the corporations that would rather hire some liar from Hyderabad and leave American veterans unemployed or even living on the streets homeless.

While more and more Americans were getting sloughed off the tally of 'employable Americans looking for work' so that Obama's Dhimmicrats could brag about lowering the Unemployment Rate, the feds were buying worthless securities from the major Wall Street banks that couldnt get rid of them. Oh yes, and the federal Reserve paid the Wall Street banks FACE VALUE for those equities. That is like me buying your old busted up truck that doesnt run anymore at the same price you bought it at brand new. That is the kind of thing only a crook would do as some sort of quid-pro-quo, not even the biggest idiot businessman would do something like that. And the total tally for this program, known as 'Quantitative Easing' was $4 TRILLION, that is right FOUR TRILLION US DOLLARS. The biggest robbery of the US government and this nation that it has ever seen.

My own experience that led me to think that I would put up with all of Sanders social issues fails is that these issues are not as important as my pocket book concerns because the GOP is not going to ever change any of this anyway. I worked from the day I turned 14 years old as a bus boy at a local restaurant and that does not include all the yards I mowed, garages I painted, fences I built prior to that. I love to work and a big slice of my self image has been built around my ability and readiness to get and hold a job.

But now I cannot get a job. I am 58 years old, I am coming off two years of disability, and I cannot even get an interview. Just called a former boss, who had given me several ataboys and a little statue, lol, to show their appreciation to me, and he has not yet returned my phone call. (Edit: he just called me about 30 minutes after I posted, lol) The glut of guest workers is so high that corporations do not have a single reason to give someone like me a shot at a job or even an interview.

So if this is how it is under corporate rule, I know I much prefer living under a barely functioning Sanders version of socialism instead. I gave the GOP decades of loyalty and all I got from them were broken promises, lies and smoke blown up my ass.

Since when did being a 'conservative' mean that you turned a blind eye to the plight of unfortunate fellow American veterans? I did not cause my two slipped discs, nor the idiocy of my doctor who failed to get me the MRIs I should have had from day One, nor why the moron took me off my disability even though my physical condition had only worsened until I healed up from my surgery from last September. And while I am ready and anxious to get back to my career, I dont have the opportunity because GOP RINOs have helped Obama to flood the country with guest workers. That is my fault? And yet I have no Unemployment, no welfare or help of any kind from the government; I have totally fallen through the cracks of the so-called 'Social Safety Net'.

There are many legitimate criticisms of Bernie Sanders but he has this going for him; he is an honest man of integrity who will place the highest priority to removing undo corporate influence from our political system and getting Americans back to work.

I am all for it despite the wacko-libtard social baggage that comes with it.

I'm meeting old timer ex democrats with similar stories as yours. Even some old ex hippies. Some say they're for Trump due to his stance against offshoring, outsourcing, insourcing, illegal immigration, or what ever sourcing it is that enables businesses to hire labor cheaper than what Americans can work for. I like Sanders too, but he's weak on immigration, which this country needs to put a moratorium on in times of weak labor markets. Course, Trump may be a phony, but I don't think he is. Only Sanders and Trump talk against Obama's and the republicans' TransPacific Partnership, although they are forbidden to talk about it in the debates. IMO anyway. Sorry about your back problems. I'm similar now, can't get comfortable enough to sleep, just sitting here at 2 am alternating ice packs and heat.

 

[JimBowie1958]

We have a political system that is broken, subverted by corporate money and that no longer listens to the American people. We have millions of American citizens looking for jobs and cant get any, while our politicians still let in hundreds of thousands of cheap foreign laborers that take our jobs and let currently hired Americans get fired and compelled to train their foreign replacements. This is in direct violation of what the guest worker programs were intended for and they are so heavily abused that I am in favor of simply dismantling those programs across the board until every American that wants a job can get one. Fuck the corporations that would rather hire some liar from Hyderabad and leave American veterans unemployed or even living on the streets homeless.

While more and more Americans were getting sloughed off the tally of 'employable Americans looking for work' so that Obama's Dhimmicrats could brag about lowering the Unemployment Rate, the feds were buying worthless securities from the major Wall Street banks that couldnt get rid of them. Oh yes, and the federal Reserve paid the Wall Street banks FACE VALUE for those equities. That is like me buying your old busted up truck that doesnt run anymore at the same price you bought it at brand new. That is the kind of thing only a crook would do as some sort of quid-pro-quo, not even the biggest idiot businessman would do something like that. And the total tally for this program, known as 'Quantitative Easing' was $4 TRILLION, that is right FOUR TRILLION US DOLLARS. The biggest robbery of the US government and this nation that it has ever seen.

My own experience that led me to think that I would put up with all of Sanders social issues fails is that these issues are not as important as my pocket book concerns because the GOP is not going to ever change any of this anyway. I worked from the day I turned 14 years old as a bus boy at a local restaurant and that does not include all the yards I mowed, garages I painted, fences I built prior to that. I love to work and a big slice of my self image has been built around my ability and readiness to get and hold a job.

But now I cannot get a job. I am 58 years old, I am coming off two years of disability, and I cannot even get an interview. Just called a former boss, who had given me several ataboys and a little statue, lol, to show their appreciation to me, and he has not yet returned my phone call. (Edit: he just called me about 30 minutes after I posted, lol) The glut of guest workers is so high that corporations do not have a single reason to give someone like me a shot at a job or even an interview.

So if this is how it is under corporate rule, I know I much prefer living under a barely functioning Sanders version of socialism instead. I gave the GOP decades of loyalty and all I got from them were broken promises, lies and smoke blown up my ass.

Since when did being a 'conservative' mean that you turned a blind eye to the plight of unfortunate fellow American veterans? I did not cause my two slipped discs, nor the idiocy of my doctor who failed to get me the MRIs I should have had from day One, nor why the moron took me off my disability even though my physical condition had only worsened until I healed up from my surgery from last September. And while I am ready and anxious to get back to my career, I dont have the opportunity because GOP RINOs have helped Obama to flood the country with guest workers. That is my fault? And yet I have no Unemployment, no welfare or help of any kind from the government; I have totally fallen through the cracks of the so-called 'Social Safety Net'.

There are many legitimate criticisms of Bernie Sanders but he has this going for him; he is an honest man of integrity who will place the highest priority to removing undo corporate influence from our political system and getting Americans back to work.

I am all for it despite the wacko-libtard social baggage that comes with it.

I'm meeting old timer ex democrats with similar stories as yours. Even some old ex hippies. Some say they're for Trump due to his stance against offshoring, outsourcing, insourcing, illegal immigration, or what ever sourcing it is that enables businesses to hire labor cheaper than what Americans can work for. I like Sanders too, but he's weak on immigration, which this country needs to put a moratorium on in times of weak labor markets. Course, Trump may be a phony, but I don't think he is. Only Sanders and Trump talk against Obama's and the republicans' TransPacific Partnership, although they are forbidden to talk about it in the debates. IMO anyway. Sorry about your back problems. I'm similar now, can't get comfortable enough to sleep, just sitting here at 2 am alternating ice packs and heat.

What helped me to sleep was a double shot of Captain Morgan with a tall glass of milk and a piece of buttered toast before bed and finding a very boring game to play on the computer.

But if you can, go see a doctor. If you have medical insurance or some other means to pay for it, the back surgery options they have today can make your life pain free again. I hate the thought of someone cutting into my back, but it worked for me. My back is about 95% completely free of pain now after 4 months recovering. There is no actual pain any more, but only a slight tightness in my hip and tail bone area.

It was worth it.

 

[Harry Dresden]

lets see you prove im a partisan hack....give some examples....

Hmmmm, no.....sorry, but I dont fetch on command, dude.

at least tell me which side im a hack for.....can you do that so i can at least have a good laugh?....

for the GOP establishment, if I read you correctly.

ask tipsy if she thinks im GOP....and when you get in the medical pot threads and the healthcare,unions,govt workers etc....ask the righties there who called me a "libturd" if i am a hack for the GOP.....im sure dean does,but then anyone who thinks he is a dick must be GOP,what else can you be.....i hate both parties jim.....i vote 3rd party and have since 2000.....this time around as well as many other times i will be writing in Rufus T. Firefly...."if your for it,im against it".....

This might surprise you but I've never thought about you at all. Some people do fantasize about what others are like. I'm not one of them. I don't consider any of you really alive.

if you have never thought about me why do you respond to me when i tell you how much of a dipshit you are?..could it be because you are thinking about what i am saying about you?...so once again you are full of shit.....

 

[JimBowie1958]

Hmmmm, no.....sorry, but I dont fetch on command, dude.

at least tell me which side im a hack for.....can you do that so i can at least have a good laugh?....

for the GOP establishment, if I read you correctly.

ask tipsy if she thinks im GOP....and when you get in the medical pot threads and the healthcare,unions,govt workers etc....ask the righties there who called me a "libturd" if i am a hack for the GOP.....im sure dean does,but then anyone who thinks he is a dick must be GOP,what else can you be.....i hate both parties jim.....i vote 3rd party and have since 2000.....this time around as well as many other times i will be writing in Rufus T. Firefly...."if your for it,im against it".....

This might surprise you but I've never thought about you at all. Some people do fantasize about what others are like. I'm not one of them. I don't consider any of you really alive.

if you have never thought about me why do you respond to me when i tell you how much of a dipshit you are?..could it be because you are thinking about what i am saying about you?...so once again you are full of shit.....

fetish?