This is Why, Despite Everything Else, I am Willing to Vote for Bernie Sanders.

[WildBillKelsoe]

Sanders has presented absolutely no plan to support middle age white people. In fact, what he does support means you should stock up on ammo. He whines
about 1%ers and they are ironically jewish slumlords and Wall Street hedgefund manipulators, and making "corporate America" more "diverse" which is code word for not hiring qualified Whites.

Sanders has two BIG issues going for him, IMO, that will help people like me; opposition to Age Discrimination, and opposition to 'free trade' stupidity that is costing this nation millions of jobs.

Bernie Sanders on Free Trade

What other choice do I have? To keep voting for GOP Establishment morons that want to keep flooding this country with indentured servants to drive American wages into the dirt even deeper?

I love this country and until will embrace all citizens of this nation and provide leadership that is honest and real, nothing will ever change. Its not always about corporate america, its not always about globalization, Bernie is the only candidate that talks and speaks FINALLY ABOUT US AND OUR ISSUES AND OUR STRUGGLES. I can't wait until he comes to my state, my pockets are full and my time is willing and waiting to do all I can to rally for this guy...he's 100% real and I love him for it...he may not win, but he will force Hillary to stay on message and not turn coat, like she always does.

Hitler was 100% real, too, but I wouldn't want him to be president.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Democracy is not incompatible with 'democratic socialism', friend.

Rationality is, though.

 

[jc456]

Socialism doesn't work. It never has. Bernie Sanders as president be one more step towards destroying the country.

What about

Socialism doesn't work. It never has. Bernie Sanders as president be one more step towards destroying the country.

Socialism, more or less, works in a lot of countries.

then why do they all want to come to the democratic US?

They don't. They're wondering why in hell the wealthiest country on Earth doesn't provide universal healthcare. They think we're backward rubes, and they're right.

are you saying that doctors refused service to sick people in the US? LOL. yeah right. Healthcare does not equate to free doctors. Not sure what the hell your smoking but give me some.

I have no health insurance, so I can say absolutely, YES. Doctors refuse service to sick people in the U.S. without cash on the barrel. And they like lots and lots of cash. I'd be glad to share, but I can't afford weed.

well I can't see certain doctors with my insurance, so now you're cherry picking. there are doctors that work for cash. And if you were unfortunate to be on welfare, you would have had a card from the government to utilize doctors, again, specific ones, but that is not unusual.

For what it's worth, I pay full price for a doctor visit, with my insurance until I pay out of pocket expenses. Most times I pay for insurance I never use.

 

[WildBillKelsoe]

This is interesting. You think Bernie Sanders wants to be more socialist than that? I'll have to look into that, especially since he actually just tied with Clinton in Iowa.

Sanders believes that all Corporations should be "regulated" (run) by the government. He advocates control of the means of production by the state.

Isn't that communism?

Communism is socialism.

 

[Uncensored2008]

All corporations already are regulated, and have been pretty much forever.

Does that mean that we've always been socialist?
.

No, American corporations do not currently work to government production requirements or follow staffing and compensation regulations.

This is not health and safety we are talking about.

 

[Uncensored2008]

So you imagine that my talents that kept me employed for 44 years have suddenly plausibly possibly just vanished?

roflmao

I don't imagine anything.

What are your marketable talents and education?

If you spent 44 years in manual labor and are now disabled, you are not marketable. If you were an accountant for 44 years you should be highly marketable.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Isn't that communism?

Socialism is the ownership or control of the means of production by the state.

Communism is common ownership of all things with no state.

Here, learn what it is that you support. Manifesto of the Communist Party

 

[Mac1958]

All corporations already are regulated, and have been pretty much forever.

Does that mean that we've always been socialist?
.

No, American corporations do not currently work to government production requirements or follow staffing and compensation regulations.

This is not health and safety we are talking about.

Do you feel that production requirements and staffing & compensation regulations are what the Democrats want?
.

 

[alpine]

 

[tigerred59]

Sanders has presented absolutely no plan to support middle age white people. In fact, what he does support means you should stock up on ammo. He whines
about 1%ers and they are ironically jewish slumlords and Wall Street hedgefund manipulators, and making "corporate America" more "diverse" which is code word for not hiring qualified Whites.

Sanders has two BIG issues going for him, IMO, that will help people like me; opposition to Age Discrimination, and opposition to 'free trade' stupidity that is costing this nation millions of jobs.



Bernie Sanders on Free Trade

What other choice do I have? To keep voting for GOP Establishment morons that want to keep flooding this country with indentured servants to drive American wages into the dirt even deeper?

I love this country and until will embrace all citizens of this nation and provide leadership that is honest and real, nothing will ever change. Its not always about corporate america, its not always about globalization, Bernie is the only candidate that talks and speaks FINALLY ABOUT US AND OUR ISSUES AND OUR STRUGGLES. I can't wait until he comes to my state, my pockets are full and my time is willing and waiting to do all I can to rally for this guy...he's 100% real and I love him for it...he may not win, but he will force Hillary to stay on message and not turn coat, like she always does.

Hitler was 100% real, too, but I wouldn't want him to be president.

Hitler was a liar, a drug addict and jew.....100% fake

 

[Uncensored2008]

Do you feel that production requirements and staffing & compensation regulations are what the Democrats want?
.

They are what Sanders advocates. How else will he "diversify management" in corporations?

What I think is that Sanders and the DNC offer hyperbole and demagoguery with no intention of following through with anything. None the less, his rhetoric is radical. The the democrats would stoop to such radical rhetoric is not surprising, that it actually appeals to a significant number of Americans is shocking.

 

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Stan at 90 you might not make it until Nov , just sayin

 

[Harry Dresden]

Between Sanders and Isis, I'd take Isis.

thats because you hate this country.....you also would like china to move in to subjugate us...

 

[Harry Dresden]

I support many of Sanders proposals

I just don't think he has a prayer of getting them implemented

The guy does care about struggling Americans though and I respect that

i would trust hillary to fuck us behind our backs,bernie not so much....

 

[PredFan]

We have a political system that is broken, subverted by corporate money and that no longer listens to the American people. We have millions of American citizens looking for jobs and cant get any, while our politicians still let in hundreds of thousands of cheap foreign laborers that take our jobs and let currently hired Americans get fired and compelled to train their foreign replacements. This is in direct violation of what the guest worker programs were intended for and they are so heavily abused that I am in favor of simply dismantling those programs across the board until every American that wants a job can get one. Fuck the corporations that would rather hire some liar from Hyderabad and leave American veterans unemployed or even living on the streets homeless.

While more and more Americans were getting sloughed off the tally of 'employable Americans looking for work' so that Obama's Dhimmicrats could brag about lowering the Unemployment Rate, the feds were buying worthless securities from the major Wall Street banks that couldnt get rid of them. Oh yes, and the federal Reserve paid the Wall Street banks FACE VALUE for those equities. That is like me buying your old busted up truck that doesnt run anymore at the same price you bought it at brand new. That is the kind of thing only a crook would do as some sort of quid-pro-quo, not even the biggest idiot businessman would do something like that. And the total tally for this program, known as 'Quantitative Easing' was $4 TRILLION, that is right FOUR TRILLION US DOLLARS. The biggest robbery of the US government and this nation that it has ever seen.

My own experience that led me to think that I would put up with all of Sanders social issues fails is that these issues are not as important as my pocket book concerns because the GOP is not going to ever change any of this anyway. I worked from the day I turned 14 years old as a bus boy at a local restaurant and that does not include all the yards I mowed, garages I painted, fences I built prior to that. I love to work and a big slice of my self image has been built around my ability and readiness to get and hold a job.

But now I cannot get a job. I am 58 years old, I am coming off two years of disability, and I cannot even get an interview. Just called a former boss, who had given me several ataboys and a little statue, lol, to show their appreciation to me, and he has not yet returned my phone call. (Edit: he just called me about 30 minutes after I posted, lol) The glut of guest workers is so high that corporations do not have a single reason to give someone like me a shot at a job or even an interview.

So if this is how it is under corporate rule, I know I much prefer living under a barely functioning Sanders version of socialism instead. I gave the GOP decades of loyalty and all I got from them were broken promises, lies and smoke blown up my ass.

Since when did being a 'conservative' mean that you turned a blind eye to the plight of unfortunate fellow American veterans? I did not cause my two slipped discs, nor the idiocy of my doctor who failed to get me the MRIs I should have had from day One, nor why the moron took me off my disability even though my physical condition had only worsened until I healed up from my surgery from last September. And while I am ready and anxious to get back to my career, I dont have the opportunity because GOP RINOs have helped Obama to flood the country with guest workers. That is my fault? And yet I have no Unemployment, no welfare or help of any kind from the government; I have totally fallen through the cracks of the so-called 'Social Safety Net'.

There are many legitimate criticisms of Bernie Sanders but he has this going for him; he is an honest man of integrity who will place the highest priority to removing undo corporate influence from our political system and getting Americans back to work.

I am all for it despite the wacko-libtard social baggage that comes with it.

And Bernie Sandwrs isn't going to fix a damn but if that. He'll only make things much worse.

 

[MikeK]

Sanders believes that all Corporations should be "regulated" (run) by the government. He advocates control of the means of production by the state.

You are quite mistaken and probably influenced by such extreme right-wing propagandists as Rush Limbaugh.

Sanders believes corporations should be regulated by the kind of socialist influences which attended the growth of the middle class and the most prosperous decades in our history, the '40s through the '80s. He does not believe corporations should be "run" by a socialist influence. That is your word choice and it conveys a significantly false impression.

What you need to understand is it has been the result of de-regulation which has created the declining state of our Nation and the sad state of its economy. I recommend that you obtain a brief but critically important education by viewing the Inside Job video which is available FREE in my signature line. It is interesting and very educational. I promise you will learn a lot from it, especially how the absence of regulations has created the predatory economic class known as the One Percent.

 

[MikeK]

This is interesting. You think Bernie Sanders wants to be more socialist than that? I'll have to look into that, especially since he actually just tied with Clinton in Iowa.

Sanders believes that all Corporations should be "regulated" (run) by the government. He advocates control of the means of production by the state.

yeah, he's a loony toon. But he's better than that criminal clinton.

What is it about Sanders that qualifies him to be described as a "loony toon," whatever that means?

I would describe Sanders as being very real, as opposed to the stereotypical phony dispositions projected by the typical politician. He says what he means and he means what he says, which is so rare it might seem "crazy" to some. Bernie isn't bullshitting us, which probably strikes you as peculiar.

 

[DigitalDrifter]

If something does happen to Hillary, you're going to see a couple of things happen.

First off, it's likely Bloomberg will make his move and run as an Independent.
You'll then see Kerry, or Biden, or even Gore jump in and run as Dims.

One way or another an old white socialist is NOT going to be the Dimocrat nominee. Some of you are dreaming if you think it's going to happen.

 

[JimBowie1958]

Democracy is not incompatible with 'democratic socialism', friend.

Rationality is, though.

So Bismark was irrational?