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Rex Tillerson Finally Lost His Secretary of State Job, Weirdly After Criticizing RussiaI think Tillerson agreed with Trump that the DoS served it's own view of foreign relations rather than the President's. Both Nixon and Reagan operated somewhat independently from the DoS, and Carter had to choose too.
But Tillerson had more experience than Trump in how globalism is a force that has to be worked with, rather than just ignored. And Tillerson considered Trump "a moron." I don't think Trump was ready to jump on PM May's bandwagon for punishing Putin for trying to kill a retired Russian spy in the UK. And Tillerson jumped.
Tillerson was fired on Friday, before he jumped in on PM May's message to Russia.
There is a dispute over timeline, but WH claims Kelly informed Tillerson on Friday. Tillerson has also cut his trip to Africa a day short on friday which seems to support that.
Either way, replacing Tillerson with Pompeo is not something that was cooked up within a day, this was in the works for a while, my guess would be from around the time Tillerson called Trump a "fucking moron" and didn't publicly deny it.
His spokesperson at State denied it on his behalf. Tillerson simply said he refused to even deal with petty stuff like that. And tensions or not, the media was putting out a lot of speculation I would label fake news during that time. I hope you are right that Tillerson was informed of the decision last week, but it still would have been better form if there had been a formal announcement with a congenial sendoff for Tillerson. But oh well. The President is himself and he does things his way and we elected him for the results he promised and is doing his damndest to deliver and, if he can do more of that, we really don't care what protocol he uses to do it.
Trump himself pointed to Iran deal as the major point of disagreement with Tillerson.
Trump wanted to do something about it (Obama was for it after all) and Tillerson thought the deal was fine. Pompeo is supposedly more on the same page with Trump.
That days of lazy career bureaucrats are over bitches.
Democrat tears make me smile.
Rex Tillerson Finally Lost His Secretary of State Job, Weirdly After Criticizing RussiaI think Tillerson agreed with Trump that the DoS served it's own view of foreign relations rather than the President's. Both Nixon and Reagan operated somewhat independently from the DoS, and Carter had to choose too.
But Tillerson had more experience than Trump in how globalism is a force that has to be worked with, rather than just ignored. And Tillerson considered Trump "a moron." I don't think Trump was ready to jump on PM May's bandwagon for punishing Putin for trying to kill a retired Russian spy in the UK. And Tillerson jumped.
Tillerson was fired on Friday, before he jumped in on PM May's message to Russia.
There is a dispute over timeline, but WH claims Kelly informed Tillerson on Friday. Tillerson has also cut his trip to Africa a day short on friday which seems to support that.
Either way, replacing Tillerson with Pompeo is not something that was cooked up within a day, this was in the works for a while, my guess would be from around the time Tillerson called Trump a "fucking moron" and didn't publicly deny it.
His spokesperson at State denied it on his behalf. Tillerson simply said he refused to even deal with petty stuff like that. And tensions or not, the media was putting out a lot of speculation I would label fake news during that time. I hope you are right that Tillerson was informed of the decision last week, but it still would have been better form if there had been a formal announcement with a congenial sendoff for Tillerson. But oh well. The President is himself and he does things his way and we elected him for the results he promised and is doing his damndest to deliver and, if he can do more of that, we really don't care what protocol he uses to do it.
Trump himself pointed to Iran deal as the major point of disagreement with Tillerson.
Trump wanted to do something about it (Obama was for it after all
True. But why would you come here for verification? Did you need to have a thread that badly?
Swish. If he had validation, he'd have just taken the question mark off the thread title. Why do leftists insist on being dicks?
Why do Trombie nutbags continue to call moderate liberals "leftists"?
Because you're not a moderate or a liberal, you're a leftist.
I'm a moderate liberal. I want government out of our wallets and our bedrooms. You're an authoritarian leftist
That's a ridiculous thing for you to say.
You can make up whatever label you want, but your authoritarian leftist views speak for themselves
..LOL..the Great Douche only picks...seeing multiple stories saying tillerson is out for Pompeo Any truth to it or just rumor mill?
I told you that nine dems had to vote. I assumed you didn't know that. Now you can write your guys and say get this going.Apparently you,dope. You called me out .
Show us that it's true. Post up how many of the vacancies are due to the dems blocking them.
A shitload of foot-dragging by the Senate on Trump's cabinet nominations here:
Trump nominations tracker: See which key positions have been filled so far
"Cabinet appointments faced unprecedented confirmation delays. Democrats needlessly shut the government down over the issue of illegal immigration. Democrats refuse to provide votes for any legislation, save for a couple of bipartisan spending deals. They even oppose things they once supported, simply because Mr. Trump announces he supports them."
Democrats discovering cost of mindless resistance to Trump
"It is a disgrace that my full Cabinet is still not in place, the longest such delay in the history of our country. Obstruction by Democrats!"
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) February 8, 2017
Confusion Reigns Over Trump's Popularity Ratings, But He's Not as Unpopular as the Press Claims ⋆ The US Constitution ⋆ Constitution.com
"As of July 22, the Senate has confirmed only 50 of President Donald Trump’s 229 executive nominations. Put another way, less than a month from the August recess, the Senate has confirmed only 22 percent of those nominated to serve in the Trump administration. By the same point in President Barack Obama’s first term, the Senate had confirmed 53 percent of Obama nominations."
Sen. Ron Johnson: Let’s break this Senate logjam
July22? Really?
Where are we now? Why so many vacancies?
Analysis | The Daily 202: Trump has no nominees for 245 important jobs, including an ambassador to South Korea
because the dems in the senate refuse to bring them up for a vote. It only takes one to block a vote to confirm a nominee.
I think Tillerson agreed with Trump that the DoS served it's own view of foreign relations rather than the President's. Both Nixon and Reagan operated somewhat independently from the DoS, and Carter had to choose too.The biggest problem with the Trump Presidency thus far - STILL - is the surplus of criminal, seditious, treasonous, leaking, colluding, criminal Obama / Hillary / Liberal extremist loyalists. Instead of firing LESS people, Trump should have fired many more by now.We used to hope Trump would grow into his new job. He has not, in fact he has become a liability and made America into a banana republic.
He should have fired the entire leadership - Chiefs, deputies, etc... - for the DOJ, FBI, EPA, DHS, etc.... when he walked into the WH on Day 1.
As far as his firings of hired Cabinet Members like Tillerson, Trump is taking a different approach to doing the same thing Barry did - get HIS people in the right seats, surround himself with HIS people. I have no problem with it. As the saying goes, 'It's good to be the king'. And as Barry once said, "If you don't like it - if you want something different, win some elections!"
However, Rex Tillerson was in no way an Obama/Hillary/liberal loyalist, so his departure isn't that. But yes, administering a very large, unwieldly government is new ground for both the President and most of the people he is putting into those key positions. Some who were great in their private careers seem to have turned out to be less well suited for their government jobs, but when they are it has been pretty neat to watch. President Trump is speaking well of Tillerson this morning, however, and Tillerson is not trashing the President. Most of the folks removed from various appointments so far have continued to sing the President's praises. So we'll see how this goes.
I still wish it had been handled differently so far as the public announcement went.
But Tillerson had more experience than Trump in how globalism is a force that has to be worked with, rather than just ignored. And Tillerson considered Trump "a moron." I don't think Trump was ready to jump on PM May's bandwagon for punishing Putin for trying to kill a retired Russian spy in the UK. And Tillerson jumped.
Could be, though I am pretty sure Tillerson doesn't consider President Trump to be a moron. I don't think it was any one thing however that brought about a parting of the ways but a cumulation of things all leading to the point both knew they didn't work well together. But again who knows? Somebody I'm sure is gathering what information is available for a 'tell all' book about it on down the line. As for now, nobody knows anything more than what they can speculate, and speculation is generally pretty flawed in these things. But I speculate anyway that you have two experienced, successful, powerful CEOs who have enjoyed pretty much total authority for a long time. It is hard for such people to take orders from or have their advice ignored by somebody they believe to be wrong.
Pompeo isn't so conditioned that way. He is former Army, thus conditioned to be subordinate to higher authorities, has served in Congress so knows the ropes there, and has been CEO of international corporations so knows the ropes re trade, treaties, protocol, etc.
We'll see how it goes.
Put something up that makes senseI asked you why?I told you that nine dems had to vote. I assumed you didn't know that. Now you can write your guys and say get this going.
Show us that it's true. Post up how many of the vacancies are due to the dems blocking them.
Apparently you're unable to follow a conversation with any degree of competence.
Obummer is out!!!!!fk stop posting about himI think Tillerson agreed with Trump that the DoS served it's own view of foreign relations rather than the President's. Both Nixon and Reagan operated somewhat independently from the DoS, and Carter had to choose too.The biggest problem with the Trump Presidency thus far - STILL - is the surplus of criminal, seditious, treasonous, leaking, colluding, criminal Obama / Hillary / Liberal extremist loyalists. Instead of firing LESS people, Trump should have fired many more by now.We used to hope Trump would grow into his new job. He has not, in fact he has become a liability and made America into a banana republic.
He should have fired the entire leadership - Chiefs, deputies, etc... - for the DOJ, FBI, EPA, DHS, etc.... when he walked into the WH on Day 1.
As far as his firings of hired Cabinet Members like Tillerson, Trump is taking a different approach to doing the same thing Barry did - get HIS people in the right seats, surround himself with HIS people. I have no problem with it. As the saying goes, 'It's good to be the king'. And as Barry once said, "If you don't like it - if you want something different, win some elections!"
However, Rex Tillerson was in no way an Obama/Hillary/liberal loyalist, so his departure isn't that. But yes, administering a very large, unwieldly government is new ground for both the President and most of the people he is putting into those key positions. Some who were great in their private careers seem to have turned out to be less well suited for their government jobs, but when they are it has been pretty neat to watch. President Trump is speaking well of Tillerson this morning, however, and Tillerson is not trashing the President. Most of the folks removed from various appointments so far have continued to sing the President's praises. So we'll see how this goes.
I still wish it had been handled differently so far as the public announcement went.
But Tillerson had more experience than Trump in how globalism is a force that has to be worked with, rather than just ignored. And Tillerson considered Trump "a moron." I don't think Trump was ready to jump on PM May's bandwagon for punishing Putin for trying to kill a retired Russian spy in the UK. And Tillerson jumped.
Could be, though I am pretty sure Tillerson doesn't consider President Trump to be a moron. I don't think it was any one thing however that brought about a parting of the ways but a cumulation of things all leading to the point both knew they didn't work well together. But again who knows? Somebody I'm sure is gathering what information is available for a 'tell all' book about it on down the line. As for now, nobody knows anything more than what they can speculate, and speculation is generally pretty flawed in these things. But I speculate anyway that you have two experienced, successful, powerful CEOs who have enjoyed pretty much total authority for a long time. It is hard for such people to take orders from or have their advice ignored by somebody they believe to be wrong.
Pompeo isn't so conditioned that way. He is former Army, thus conditioned to be subordinate to higher authorities, has served in Congress so knows the ropes there, and has been CEO of international corporations so knows the ropes re trade, treaties, protocol, etc.
We'll see how it goes.
Sadly, in some respects the President acts like a moron.
He has totally succumbed to the AIPAC-ISRAELI Lobby adopting an ISRAEL FIRST Foreign policy.
Tillerson's support for Iran deal helped get him fired,
Pleasing Netanyahu and the Zionists by starting WW3 is definitely not MAGA
.
Obummer is out!!!!!fk stop posting about himI think Tillerson agreed with Trump that the DoS served it's own view of foreign relations rather than the President's. Both Nixon and Reagan operated somewhat independently from the DoS, and Carter had to choose too.The biggest problem with the Trump Presidency thus far - STILL - is the surplus of criminal, seditious, treasonous, leaking, colluding, criminal Obama / Hillary / Liberal extremist loyalists. Instead of firing LESS people, Trump should have fired many more by now.
He should have fired the entire leadership - Chiefs, deputies, etc... - for the DOJ, FBI, EPA, DHS, etc.... when he walked into the WH on Day 1.
As far as his firings of hired Cabinet Members like Tillerson, Trump is taking a different approach to doing the same thing Barry did - get HIS people in the right seats, surround himself with HIS people. I have no problem with it. As the saying goes, 'It's good to be the king'. And as Barry once said, "If you don't like it - if you want something different, win some elections!"
However, Rex Tillerson was in no way an Obama/Hillary/liberal loyalist, so his departure isn't that. But yes, administering a very large, unwieldly government is new ground for both the President and most of the people he is putting into those key positions. Some who were great in their private careers seem to have turned out to be less well suited for their government jobs, but when they are it has been pretty neat to watch. President Trump is speaking well of Tillerson this morning, however, and Tillerson is not trashing the President. Most of the folks removed from various appointments so far have continued to sing the President's praises. So we'll see how this goes.
I still wish it had been handled differently so far as the public announcement went.
But Tillerson had more experience than Trump in how globalism is a force that has to be worked with, rather than just ignored. And Tillerson considered Trump "a moron." I don't think Trump was ready to jump on PM May's bandwagon for punishing Putin for trying to kill a retired Russian spy in the UK. And Tillerson jumped.
Could be, though I am pretty sure Tillerson doesn't consider President Trump to be a moron. I don't think it was any one thing however that brought about a parting of the ways but a cumulation of things all leading to the point both knew they didn't work well together. But again who knows? Somebody I'm sure is gathering what information is available for a 'tell all' book about it on down the line. As for now, nobody knows anything more than what they can speculate, and speculation is generally pretty flawed in these things. But I speculate anyway that you have two experienced, successful, powerful CEOs who have enjoyed pretty much total authority for a long time. It is hard for such people to take orders from or have their advice ignored by somebody they believe to be wrong.
Pompeo isn't so conditioned that way. He is former Army, thus conditioned to be subordinate to higher authorities, has served in Congress so knows the ropes there, and has been CEO of international corporations so knows the ropes re trade, treaties, protocol, etc.
We'll see how it goes.
Sadly, in some respects the President acts like a moron.
He has totally succumbed to the AIPAC-ISRAELI Lobby adopting an ISRAEL FIRST Foreign policy.
Tillerson's support for Iran deal helped get him fired,
Pleasing Netanyahu and the Zionists by starting WW3 is definitely not MAGA
.
Tillerson has spoken bad profanities against the President while working for him.....everybody knows that....he should not have done it.
President Trump does not forget!
GOD BLESS The President!
If you work for the President ...you have to be on the team.
Hope McMaster is next
Another traitor.
Hope McMaster is next
Another traitor.
Why don't you like him? He has a stellar record.
Hope McMaster is next
Another traitor.
Why don't you like him? He has a stellar record.
Because he is a warmonger. He wants war...what ever war it is....he wants it.
I really dislike him and despise him
He is not a man for Peace.
Hope McMaster is next
Another traitor.
Why don't you like him? He has a stellar record.
Because he is a warmonger. He wants war...what ever war it is....he wants it.
I really dislike him and despise him
He is not a man for Peace.
But neither is Trump...
Hope McMaster is next
Another traitor.
Why don't you like him? He has a stellar record.
Because he is a warmonger. He wants war...what ever war it is....he wants it.
I really dislike him and despise him
He is not a man for Peace.
But neither is Trump...
President Donald Trump is a man for peace.GOD BLESS HIM.....no war with North Korea.....for starters!
