Tired of not-winning? ... Average Tax Refunds Down 8.4 Percent As Angry Taxpayers Vent On Twitter



It's too bad Trump is doing everything he can to destroy this and put us in another recession, like Dubya did.
Sad.
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Yeah! Damn the great economy! Damn the new jobs! Damn the low employment numbers! Damn the lowest minority employment rate! Damn the increasing pay! Damn the lower taxes letting you keep more of your money! You're a fucking lying moron.
 


It's too bad Trump is doing everything he can to destroy this and put us in another recession, like Dubya did.
Sad.
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Yeah! Damn the great economy! Damn the new jobs! Damn the low employment numbers! Damn the lowest minority employment rate! Damn the increasing pay! Damn the lower taxes letting you keep more of your money! You're a fucking lying moron.
shhhh maybe he lives in a blue state not paying his fair share and is sad he will finally have to.
 
BTW, all these leftist turds in here always bellowing out the rich pay their fair share, now the rich in the blue states will do just that, and now these same people are bitching about actually having to pay their fair share. can't make up a leftist argument. just can't
 
Looks like Trump's ass is on fire on Twitter:

Trumpanzees whining now.


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Democrat bots.
 
The fact that you owe more is irrelevant. What was your final federal tax paid for 2018 compared to 2017?
 
The fact that you owe more is irrelevant. What was your final federal tax paid for 2018 compared to 2017?

AND what was the difference in adjusted income? Did Seawytch itemize, something was different. If she's saying nothing changed then I think she's lying.
 
The feces has hit the fan at tax refund time as low and middle-class Americans are finding that Trump has his hand in their pocket and has stolen money from their refunds.

The wealthy are still doing just fine. The lies about the Trump tax cuts is now exposed that the low and middle class are financing the tax cuts for the wealthy people and corporations.

Donald Trump won't be able to spin his way out of the tax cut lie.

Average Tax Refunds Down 8.4 Percent As Angry Taxpayers Vent On Twitter | HuffPost

Average Tax Refunds Down 8.4 Percent As Angry Taxpayers Vent On Twitter
Many workers who had always gotten a refund find out they now owe the IRS.
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By Mary Papenfuss

Average tax refunds were down last week 8.4 percent for the first week of the tax season over the same time last year, according to the Internal Revenue Service. Dipping refunds are inflaming a growing army of taxpayers stunned by the consequences of the Trump administration’s tax law — and the effects of the partial government shutdown.

The average refund check paid out so far has been $1,865, down from $2,035 at the same point in 2018, according to IRS data. Low-income taxpayers often file early to pocket the money as soon as possible. Many taxpayers count on the refunds to make important payments, or spend the money on things like home repairs, a vacation or a car.

The IRS had estimated it would issue about 2.3 percent fewer refunds this year as a result of the changes in the federal tax law, according to Bloomberg. MSNBC reports that 30 million Americans will owe the IRS money this year — 3 million more than before Trump’s tax law.

“There are going to be a lot of unhappy people over the next month,” Edward Karl of the American Institute of CPAs told Politico. “Taxpayers want a large refund.” Some 71 percent of taxpayers received refunds last year worth about $3,000 on average, according to Karl.

Scads of taxpayers are complaining on Twitter that they have always received a refund — but now owe the IRS instead. ...

What does this have to do with Trump?

The amount of your refund, is determined by how much you over pay. If you WANT a refund, you just jack up your with-holdings. How dumb is that? I want to be poorer all year long... so I can get a check back from the government?

Hey idiot.... put your money in a savings account, and at the end of the year, you'll have the same amount of money in that account, that you would have had in a refund... except with interest.

And if you have an emergency during the year, you could use it.

Trump has nothing to do with how stupid you are in giving too much money to the government. Dumbest thing in the world....

"I'm mad at Trump because I didn't over pay all year long! It's all his fault I wasn't poorer the entire year!"

Are you a moron? Oh... right... your worse than a moron... you are a Democrap.

You are dumber than you seem.

People are calculating their taxes. They made about the same as the previous year under the old tax code, they took the same withholding, and they expected a LARGER refund because that's what Trump promised. When many people didn't see any increase in their paycheck when the cuts took effect. Trump said they'd get a big refund from the cuts, but they are now finding that they're paying MORE than they did last year.

People are mad at Trump because HE LIED.


First you have to remember there are still two months in the tax season, so jury is still out. Also I paid less than last year on virtually the same income.

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I heard the news guy on TV say it was actually 25% lower.
We’ll know exactly what happened after April.
 
The feces has hit the fan at tax refund time as low and middle-class Americans are finding that Trump has his hand in their pocket and has stolen money from their refunds.

The wealthy are still doing just fine. The lies about the Trump tax cuts is now exposed that the low and middle class are financing the tax cuts for the wealthy people and corporations.

Donald Trump won't be able to spin his way out of the tax cut lie.

Average Tax Refunds Down 8.4 Percent As Angry Taxpayers Vent On Twitter | HuffPost

Average Tax Refunds Down 8.4 Percent As Angry Taxpayers Vent On Twitter
Many workers who had always gotten a refund find out they now owe the IRS.
headshot
By Mary Papenfuss

Average tax refunds were down last week 8.4 percent for the first week of the tax season over the same time last year, according to the Internal Revenue Service. Dipping refunds are inflaming a growing army of taxpayers stunned by the consequences of the Trump administration’s tax law — and the effects of the partial government shutdown.

The average refund check paid out so far has been $1,865, down from $2,035 at the same point in 2018, according to IRS data. Low-income taxpayers often file early to pocket the money as soon as possible. Many taxpayers count on the refunds to make important payments, or spend the money on things like home repairs, a vacation or a car.

The IRS had estimated it would issue about 2.3 percent fewer refunds this year as a result of the changes in the federal tax law, according to Bloomberg. MSNBC reports that 30 million Americans will owe the IRS money this year — 3 million more than before Trump’s tax law.

“There are going to be a lot of unhappy people over the next month,” Edward Karl of the American Institute of CPAs told Politico. “Taxpayers want a large refund.” Some 71 percent of taxpayers received refunds last year worth about $3,000 on average, according to Karl.

Scads of taxpayers are complaining on Twitter that they have always received a refund — but now owe the IRS instead. ...
more evidence that these leftists have no idea how taxes work. They don't get it that for eleven months you received 400 a month more from the tax cut received for use throughout the year, that your end of year refund would be minus the 400 times eleven months of received money you could use to invest and actually make more money. Only on the left. wow, the stupid is so powerful with these leftists.

The reason that the tax withholding tables were revamped was because of politics. Republicans wanted to play politics and show people their tax cuts such as they were. The Treasury apparently wanted to reduce or eliminate tax refunds when they revamped the tax tables. It would have been better to leave the old tables in place and let people get their refunds and see if they wanted to reduce their withholding.
Republicans finally told the blue states that they should pay as much federal tax as the lower taxed red states. Why should the poor have to pick up more of the tab from a liberal blue state? You dimwitocraps, sure did want tax FAIRNESS, until it came to a state near you...


HUH? Is that an alternative fact?

From the Associated Press: AP FACT CHECK: Blue high-tax states fund red low-tax states
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THE FACTS:

Connecticut residents paid an average of $15,643 per person in federal taxes in 2015, according to a report by the Rockefeller Institute of Government. Massachusetts paid $13,582 per person, New Jersey paid $13,137 and New York paid $12,820.

California residents paid an average of $10,510.

At the other end, Mississippi residents paid an average of $5,740 per person, while West Virginia paid $6,349, Kentucky paid $6,626 and South Carolina paid $6,665.

Low-tax red states also fare better when you take into account federal spending.

Mississippi received $2.13 for every tax dollar the state sent to Washington in 2015, according to the Rockefeller study. West Virginia received $2.07, Kentucky got $1.90 and South Carolina got $1.71.

Meanwhile, New Jersey received 74 cents in federal spending for tax every dollar the state sent to Washington. New York received 81 cents, Connecticut received 82 cents and Massachusetts received 83 cents.""""
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And then when their state taxes were added up, those Federal taxes were taken down with the SALT deduction, until...….are you ready......President Trumps new tax plan. Now those Federal Deductions of state and local taxes, just arent as high anymore. Fuck off asshole, I know my laws, that is how I have made millions of dollars, using every legal liberal tax loophole...
 
Leftist propaganda is pathetic. They recieved more than that during the year in the increased paychecks. What sort of tard wants the government to hold their money with no interest?

Sadly, most people do. 80% of the country on average receives a refund on their taxes. Most people do not know how much they are paying, they base it all on the size of their refund, they actually brag about how big of a refund they get.

This is not limited to a single party, to pretend it is just shows your own bias.
Are you an idiot? Well, that was a stupid question on my part. Of course they know how much they pay. It's on your tax return. It the difference between what you paid in and what you get back. The portion the government keeps of your income. Why would each citizen NOT know how much they paid?

Because people do not pay that close of attention, you give them way too much credit. Most people judge their taxes by how much they get back, they could not tell you how much they paid.
 
The feces has hit the fan at tax refund time as low and middle-class Americans are finding that Trump has his hand in their pocket and has stolen money from their refunds.

The wealthy are still doing just fine. The lies about the Trump tax cuts is now exposed that the low and middle class are financing the tax cuts for the wealthy people and corporations.

Donald Trump won't be able to spin his way out of the tax cut lie.

Average Tax Refunds Down 8.4 Percent As Angry Taxpayers Vent On Twitter | HuffPost

Average Tax Refunds Down 8.4 Percent As Angry Taxpayers Vent On Twitter
Many workers who had always gotten a refund find out they now owe the IRS.
headshot
By Mary Papenfuss

Average tax refunds were down last week 8.4 percent for the first week of the tax season over the same time last year, according to the Internal Revenue Service. Dipping refunds are inflaming a growing army of taxpayers stunned by the consequences of the Trump administration’s tax law — and the effects of the partial government shutdown.

The average refund check paid out so far has been $1,865, down from $2,035 at the same point in 2018, according to IRS data. Low-income taxpayers often file early to pocket the money as soon as possible. Many taxpayers count on the refunds to make important payments, or spend the money on things like home repairs, a vacation or a car.

The IRS had estimated it would issue about 2.3 percent fewer refunds this year as a result of the changes in the federal tax law, according to Bloomberg. MSNBC reports that 30 million Americans will owe the IRS money this year — 3 million more than before Trump’s tax law.

“There are going to be a lot of unhappy people over the next month,” Edward Karl of the American Institute of CPAs told Politico. “Taxpayers want a large refund.” Some 71 percent of taxpayers received refunds last year worth about $3,000 on average, according to Karl.

Scads of taxpayers are complaining on Twitter that they have always received a refund — but now owe the IRS instead. ...

All those evil rich folks who pay your way took a big hit on their mortgage interest deduction values...The bottom feeding degenerates should be happy...no?

There should have never been a mortgage interest deduction, the tax code should not be used to influence behavior.
LOL I'm betting you were all for the forced behavior of the ACA though weren't you?

Nope, been against it since day one, I am still against it.

You are really not very smart, you should just quit while you are behind and not get embarrassed.
 
No we don't have to move any place asshole so go fuck yerself. We will stay here and demand change...

You already demanded change. They raised taxes on the rich who live in states with high state and local taxes. Why are you now pissed off at yourself?

They also raised taxes on people who are not rich and live in blue states. The rich got the vast majority of the tax cuts.
The only people who paid more taxes are upper income homeowners who live in states with high property taxes. What is sad is that the tax reform along with deregulation has energized the economy so it is now growing at a robust rate and creating new jobs at an astonishing rate, including the largest number of manufacturing jobs since the boom years of the 1990's and the Democrats are opposed to everything that is benefiting all Americans.

That is not true. The economy was improving under Obama.. It had nothing to do with Obama or Trump. Manufacturing jobs started coming back under Obama because companies found advantages to manufacturing in the US such as cheap natural gas and maintaining netter control over their manufacturing. These areas with high local taxes are not just found in blue states. Some suburban areas in red states could see taxpayers paying higher taxes because of local taxes as well. Americans largely oppose what Trump has done in regards to taxes and deregulation.
What planet do you live on?

I guess you are on drugs because you cannot accept the truth. The economy is generally too dynamic for any politician to turn on a dime. Manufacturing started coming back to the US under Obama because the advantages started outweighing the disadvantages. When Trump took office, the unemployment rate was 4.7%. That is undeniable except to Trump supporters.
 
You already demanded change. They raised taxes on the rich who live in states with high state and local taxes. Why are you now pissed off at yourself?

They also raised taxes on people who are not rich and live in blue states. The rich got the vast majority of the tax cuts.
The only people who paid more taxes are upper income homeowners who live in states with high property taxes. What is sad is that the tax reform along with deregulation has energized the economy so it is now growing at a robust rate and creating new jobs at an astonishing rate, including the largest number of manufacturing jobs since the boom years of the 1990's and the Democrats are opposed to everything that is benefiting all Americans.

That is not true. The economy was improving under Obama.. It had nothing to do with Obama or Trump. Manufacturing jobs started coming back under Obama because companies found advantages to manufacturing in the US such as cheap natural gas and maintaining netter control over their manufacturing. These areas with high local taxes are not just found in blue states. Some suburban areas in red states could see taxpayers paying higher taxes because of local taxes as well. Americans largely oppose what Trump has done in regards to taxes and deregulation.
What planet do you live on?

I guess you are on drugs because you cannot accept the truth. The economy is generally too dynamic for any politician to turn on a dime. Manufacturing started coming back to the US under Obama because the advantages started outweighing the disadvantages. When Trump took office, the unemployment rate was 4.7%. That is undeniable except to Trump supporters.
You keep making up these stupid lies because you have no idea why you are opposed to President Trump. Everyone with a functioning brain knows manufacturing jobs did not come back under Obama. In fact, that was a constant criticism of our anemic recovery from the recession. Throughout the 2016 campaign, Obama assured Americans manufacturing jobs were never coming back. The truth is, you seem to be opposed to everything that is making life better for Americans just because there is a Republican in the WH. It might be better if you were a loyal American rather than just a loyal Democrat.
 
If you ever got a refund of more than a couple of hundred dollars, you're paying way too much in withholding.

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That is true however some people use withholding as a way of saving money until they get their refund. The new withholding tables were put in place without the consent of taxpayers.


Sorry dipstick, you can request more be withheld. What you're really saying is most people are too ignorant to manage their own affairs.

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You are the dipstick as are all Trump supporters. The IRS sets all withholding tables. The only way to affect that is to decide whether or not to carry dependents. People are not ignorant. They use withholding the way they used a Christmas club account at one time. Save some money through withholding and buy something nice when you get your refund.


Damn son, not only are you a dipstick, you're a stupid dipstick.
Have you ever bothered to read the W-4 form? Line 6 allows you to request additional withholding.

https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/fw4.pdf

So feel free to loan the feds all the money, interest free, you wish.

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You are a stupid dipstick. Taxpayers were not informed of the Treasury's desire to lower or eliminate refunds and were unable to do so because of the new tax code.

Interest is hardly the issue. We are talking about 1 year and the interest would be negligible.


Want a bigger refund, have you employer hold out more money, it's that damn simple. So stop you fucking whining, that's a printable form. Fill one out and turn it in to your HR dept.

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It is mostly because of the limited state and local tax deduction. Last year I was able to deduct $13k but this year the limit is $10k. That being said I also paid a lower tax rate and get a $1.6k child tax credit per child. I ll be doing my taxes next week and see where I come out. What Trump did do was punish the blue states. Where the state and local and RE taxes were super high...like $50k vs my $13k and people used that to lower their Federal Tax burden. This really is a tax on the rich, that the Democrats wanted. I am not sure what they are complaining about.

Another good point re state and local taxes; why give them a Federal tax deduction? They can vote themselves major tax deductions in their own states. No reason for everybody else to help finance their local and state spending, especially states like California and New York. California capped their real estates taxes, a major welfare subsidy for the wealthy, leaving the lower income brackets to make up the difference, and of course their high payroll taxes are ridiculous.

Because it is wrong to require people to pay taxes on taxes. Also California and New York have higher per capita incomes and a higher cost of living. Also states like California and New York get less from the federal government than they pay in taxes while red states get more than they pay in taxes.


Does that include the subsidies they got from SALT deductions? I doubt it. They are tax expenditures.

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Apparently, you enjoy embarrassing yourself.

That's funny, coming from a Trump supporter. Everything you voted for is a lie.

The tax cuts are shit, there's no great job waiting for you, coal is not coming back, the Koreans have doubled their nuclear capacity, and there will be no wall.

I got a nice refund, I got a new job at twice the salary and was promoted twice in 2018, coal is coming back because we are selling it to China, the North Koreans have firecrackers, and the wall is being built.

Why do you lie?

The wall will never be built. NK was never a threat to the US. Coal will never come back. It will remain a small part of energy production.

If we had dealt with Hitler when he violated the treaty and went into the Rhineland, there would never have been a world war 2.

It was because people had the attitude that you just promoted, that directly caused world war 2. We said "Germany is not a threat to the US".... until they were.

Avoiding all conflict, is now always a good policy.

If you avoid all conflict in your marriage, problems will continue to grow until it destroys your marriage.

If you avoid all conflict with out of control people around the world, they will continue to grow and be a problem, until they cause a war you can't avoid anymore.

When Hugo Chavez deployed his military towards Columbia, it was a clear attempt to start an all out war in South America.

Bush wisely deployed US troops into Columbia, and Chavez backed away.

Being stupid with an out of control dictator, does not avoid war... it nearly guarantees war.

Yes, North Korea can't directly strike the US, but NK can most certainly hit our allies, and cause a World War.

Only idiots think we should just let the crazy person do whatever he wants.

You are aware of the fact that we have troops in North Korea. Trump is the only one who has suggested removing them. He is doing this to get attention and nothing more. Past Presidents have refused to give him legitimacy which Trump has given him.


Me thinks you should have said South Korea, we don't have troops in NK.

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Trumpland is crumbling at the edges as the cement of lies dissolves when exposed to truth.

Only the most deluded and gullible Deplorables are sticking to Trumpery.
 

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