To USMB Women: Should your boss decide they type of contraception you should use?

You an idiot, the for abortion pills can still be bought by the employee.

Sure they can but every time they pay out of pocket they are thinking "my boss thinks I am a terrible sinner for this". No one deserves that kind of moral pressure or personal intrusion in life from their employer. Their concern for your personal habits should end at the front door.

As an employee they should stop trying to mind read the employer and assume that the employer thinks they are a terrible sinner. There is no moral pressure except in the deluded mind of the employer ascribing opinions to the employer that they may not even have. Employers do not spend time thinking about what the employees do on their own time. Of course there is no intrusion into one's personal life at all. It's imaginary.

Not in the hobby lobby case, it's clear the owners were sending a message to everyone involved that they have this belief strongly enough to not only not use these products in their own lives but they were not going to condone it in any of their employees. The moral message could not be any clearer, they even went to the supreme court say it.
 
I'm glad that my parent's boss didn't offer free birth control. I probably wouldn't be here.

It's not free if it is part of your pay package. it's due compensation for services performed.

It's only part of the package if the BUSINESS OWNER chooses to include it. The SCOTUS told you to get your filthy hands out of the employers cookie jar.

The law says that you have to include all sorts of things for your employees such as bathroom breaks, minimal safety, minimum wage etc. Those are bad examples to a republican who generally despises labor laws but that's the way it is. The government has authority to mandate labor practices because people like these hobby lobby zealots once built company towns and ruled with an iron fist.
 
It's not free if it is part of your pay package. it's due compensation for services performed.

It's only part of the package if the BUSINESS OWNER chooses to include it. The SCOTUS told you to get your filthy hands out of the employers cookie jar.

The law says that you have to include all sorts of things for your employees such as bathroom breaks, minimal safety, minimum wage etc. Those are bad examples to a republican who generally despises labor laws but that's the way it is. The government has authority to mandate labor practices because people like these hobby lobby zealots once built company towns and ruled with an iron fist.

Your side lost.

#dealwithit
 
It's only part of the package if the BUSINESS OWNER chooses to include it. The SCOTUS told you to get your filthy hands out of the employers cookie jar.

The law says that you have to include all sorts of things for your employees such as bathroom breaks, minimal safety, minimum wage etc. Those are bad examples to a republican who generally despises labor laws but that's the way it is. The government has authority to mandate labor practices because people like these hobby lobby zealots once built company towns and ruled with an iron fist.

Your side lost.

#dealwithit

My side is people who work for a living.
 
What do women think about that? Mostly, I've heard from the men, not too much from women.

And for women who feel men should be making their choices, what quality is it that men have that they should be given this authority?

Is it embarrassing being this stupid?

If it's so damn stupid then how did this problem get all the way to the Supreme Court?

Oh, wait!! That's right...the fucking SCOTUS has 5 Catholics on it. That explains it.
 
The law says that you have to include all sorts of things for your employees such as bathroom breaks, minimal safety, minimum wage etc. Those are bad examples to a republican who generally despises labor laws but that's the way it is. The government has authority to mandate labor practices because people like these hobby lobby zealots once built company towns and ruled with an iron fist.

Your side lost.

#dealwithit

My side is people who work for a living.

Spot on. Check out what Bethlehem, PA USED to be compared to what it is now. (Just the layout of the residential area for the CEO and company execs will creep you out.) The old steel factories are now casinos.
 
What do women think about that? Mostly, I've heard from the men, not too much from women.

And for women who feel men should be making their choices, what quality is it that men have that they should be given this authority?

Your post assumes men own all businesses.

Why should the boss have to pay for healthcare period? Sheesh.

The boss already pays for your house your gas your food etc?

Do you know how to get the boss to pay for all your stuff? Be the boss.

Wrong, you pay for the bosses house, fuel and food with your labor and you get a share of the proceeds. You make it sound like anything they give you for the privilege of working and putting money in their pocket is almost charity on their part. Having a job is a contract and people who work for a living should be suspicious of any attempt on management to go back on their end of the deal or assert undue influence over their lives.
You are confusing boss with a slave master. We are all slaves to the system in which we are dependent to come up with certain amount of money to pay the bills, property taxes (if we even owe it anymore) and other essentials to survive in this system, BUT THE BOSS IS NOT the slave master, the boss HIMSELF is often a slave in America, I was one so I should know, and I chose not to hire anyone for the last 7 years or so because the system makes it too difficult - my 61 year old father and my 100 pound wife helps me lift heavy stuff when I need help, we work ourselves and are not hiring. As a former boss I consider myself to be a slave, and to ignorant Americans who keep telling me to leave, I reply get your military bases out of other countries, then I will consider leaving.
 
The law says that you have to include all sorts of things for your employees such as bathroom breaks, minimal safety, minimum wage etc. Those are bad examples to a republican who generally despises labor laws but that's the way it is. The government has authority to mandate labor practices because people like these hobby lobby zealots once built company towns and ruled with an iron fist.

Your side lost.

#dealwithit

My side is people who work for a living.

No, your side are the ones who passed this clusterfuck of a law that has to be sorted out by courts.
Now go Fluke yourself
 
What in idiotic, backwards premise. The question should be, 'Bosses, should women be able to force you to buy them what they want?'
Anyone who registers democrat should have their voting privileges revoked.
 
To USMB Women: Should your boss decide they type of contraception you should use?

What do women think about that? Mostly, I've heard from the men, not too much from women.

And for women who feel men should be making their choices, what quality is it that men have that they should be given this authority?


So if my chosen method of birth control is to keep my clothes on, my employer should be forced to pay for my wardrobe?

Rderping, you're doing it right.
 
I think the insurance companies should pay for your birth control. It is a moderate and intelligent position.

Do I think your boss should open his wallet and have the right to tell you what he wants you to spend it on? This is what the op sounds to me. It really depends.
 
I think the insurance companies should pay for your birth control. It is a moderate and intelligent position.

Do I think your boss should open his wallet and have the right to tell you what he wants you to spend it on? This is what the op sounds to me. It really depends.

No. Health insurance should be for big things ... cancer treatments, diabetes treatments, surgery, if you're in an accident, etc. Not things like b/c, doc appts, less expensive tests, etc. The more things covered under insurance, the more expensive the insurance is.
 
how offensive?

they think you aren't CAPABLE of making your own decisions on your birth control

just like they think you need abortion because of that fact too

women to them are just HELPLESS little things who can't make it without their "visions" for you

that's why we have another thread on how they use women called, paycheck fairness

you're nothing more to them than black people, brown people, homosexuals, etc...SOMEONE TO USE for class warfare UGLY politics

MAN wake up to this dirty politics by the left
 
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This is not about money, it's about employers making religious decisions for employees. It's like being docked for that beer you bought over the weekend because your boss cannot bear that any money that came from him would buy alcohol.

You an idiot, the for abortion pills can still be bought by the employee.

Sure they can but every time they pay out of pocket they are thinking "my boss thinks I am a terrible sinner for this". No one deserves that kind of moral pressure or personal intrusion in life from their employer. Their concern for your personal habits should end at the front door.

So if the employee buys it, how the hell can he find out? Unless she is like the queers, and have to shove their business down his neck.
 
What do women think about that? Mostly, I've heard from the men, not too much from women.

And for women who feel men should be making their choices, what quality is it that men have that they should be given this authority?

I chose, I pay. Since when do employers or insurance companies have to pay for every little thing? Some don't want to buy their own fucking Tylenol.
 
I'm glad that my parent's boss didn't offer free birth control. I probably wouldn't be here.

It's not free if it is part of your pay package. it's due compensation for services performed.

What service would a female employee have to perform that would require contraceptives? In what manner would male employees receive "equal compensation?"
 
What do women think about that? Mostly, I've heard from the men, not too much from women.

And for women who feel men should be making their choices, what quality is it that men have that they should be given this authority?


Abortion as contraception... Interesting...
 

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