Todd Akin was forced out of the race by the WOMEN FRIENDLY GOP

[oreo]

What's sad actually are not the few of you complete and utter hate filled imbeciles who are carrying this idiotic and pathetic torch, it's that the rest of the left aren't telling you to shut the fuck up and you don't speak for them.

If you can dispute, with facts, the already established facts that Ryan and Romney and Akin have virtually identical positions on abortion -

although granted they themselves may be trying to run away from that fact for political reasons, right now -

then by all means post them.

And you can back up your obvious BS with quotes..

No you cant, lying is what the low life do........

He won't respond because he's LYING--as did OBAMA in one of his adds. Here is Romney's stance on ABORTION.

During a 2007 debate, Romney was asked if he would sign legislation to ban “all abortion” — assuming, hypothetically, that Roe v. Wade had been overturned. He said he’d be “delighted to sign it,” if there was a national consensus for it. But, he said, “that’s not where America is today.” Meanwhile, Romney made clear — both before and after that debate — that his fuller position was that he opposes abortion except in cases of rape, incest or to save the life of the mother.

FactCheck.org : Twisting Romney’s Abortion Stance

Which is pretty much the same as most Americans--including women in this country. The overwhelming majority of women in this country wish that other women would use their FREE CHOICE to use birth control contraceptives--versus using Planned Parenthood as their choice AFTERWARDS to get an abortion.

"When you don't have a record to run on, you need to paint your opponent as somebody people should run from"--Barack Obama

 

[NYcarbineer]

What's sad actually are not the few of you complete and utter hate filled imbeciles who are carrying this idiotic and pathetic torch, it's that the rest of the left aren't telling you to shut the fuck up and you don't speak for them.

If you can dispute, with facts, the already established facts that Ryan and Romney and Akin have virtually identical positions on abortion -

although granted they themselves may be trying to run away from that fact for political reasons, right now -

then by all means post them.

For the third time in different threads....





Romney position on Abortion


Pro-Life

Romney previously supported a woman’s right to decide, but he is now adamantly opposed to abortions, unless it involves cases of rape, incest or if the mother’s life is in mortal danger.
Romney on Abortion


That isn't ALMOST virtual political positions to Akin. This site wasn't created yesterday, Carb.

Note that I said one of Romney's MANY positions.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

It was really a problem of Republcan damage control spin units. Had they gotten to Akin before he responded they could have fixed his answer in such a way that America would believe that Akin was fighting socialism and communism. Not only that, but Akin was showing America that rugged individualism prevents rapes, and by building it yourself is a preventative of social diseases. Yes, Republican damage control units can do wonders to change ordinary Republican beliefs to good ole Americanism.

You really like blather, don't you?

 

[GoneBezerk]

Liberals care so much about females that they support killing them before they are even born....for no reason at all.

An unborn baby doesn't even have to be produced by rape or incest for liberals to want to kill them.....

 

[GoneBezerk]

regent has some loose nuts and bolts in the head.

It was really a problem of Republcan damage control spin units. Had they gotten to Akin before he responded they could have fixed his answer in such a way that America would believe that Akin was fighting socialism and communism. Not only that, but Akin was showing America that rugged individualism prevents rapes, and by building it yourself is a preventative of social diseases. Yes, Republican damage control units can do wonders to change ordinary Republican beliefs to good ole Americanism.

You really like blather, don't you?

 

[NYcarbineer]

What's sad actually are not the few of you complete and utter hate filled imbeciles who are carrying this idiotic and pathetic torch, it's that the rest of the left aren't telling you to shut the fuck up and you don't speak for them.

If you can dispute, with facts, the already established facts that Ryan and Romney and Akin have virtually identical positions on abortion -

although granted they themselves may be trying to run away from that fact for political reasons, right now -

then by all means post them.

And you can back up your obvious BS with quotes..

No you cant, lying is what the low life do........

Ryan's co-sponsorship of a personhood amendment and Romney's support for the human life amendment have already established the facts.

 

[courseofhistory]

The longer this joker stays in and in the headlines, the more it will rub off on Romney/Ryan. I hope he doesn't quit!

 

[NYcarbineer]

If you can dispute, with facts, the already established facts that Ryan and Romney and Akin have virtually identical positions on abortion -

although granted they themselves may be trying to run away from that fact for political reasons, right now -

then by all means post them.

And you can back up your obvious BS with quotes..

No you cant, lying is what the low life do........

I already shot down Carb's yarn about them being identical. I don't expect him to respond to my post.

You posted only one of Romney's several positions on abortion. Post them all, and you'll find that his support of a personhood amendment makes his position the same as Akins.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

Tell me gramps, how do Todd Akin's views differ from Paul Ryan's?

There is an old axiom: robins and bluejays don't nest together.

Two words that should never be used together in the same sentence: legitimate and rape. But that’s the way Rep. Todd Akin (R-Mo.) chose to speak about the sensitive topic that has impacted millions of women in the United States in an interview with a local television station Sunday.

In defending his extreme anti-choice position – that a woman who is raped and becomes pregnant should not be permitted to have an abortion, Akin said, “First of all, from what I understand from doctors [pregnancy from rape] is really rare. If it’s a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down.”

Akin, who clearly didn’t pay attention in biology class, is challenging Democratic incumbent Sen. Claire McCaskill. After the negative and swift public reaction to his remarks, Akin said in a statement that he “misspoke,” but that claim doesn’t fly when you do a quick review of his legislative history, which is directly connected vice presidential pick Rep. Paul Ryan on this exact issue.

Akin and Ryan were the original co-sponsors of the controversial bill H.R. 3, “No Taxpayer Funding for Abortion Act,” which initially included language which changed the definition of “rape” to “forcible rape,” until public pressure forced the bill’s supporters to remove that unacceptable and narrow definition. As I wrote previously, Paul Ryan is not just anti-choice, his anti-choice views are extreme and just plain bad for all women.

Linking Ryan to Akin and the idea that there is such a thing as “legitimate rape” based on pseudo-science and folklore is something that needs to be done before the upcoming election. While Team Romney attempted to create distance with Akin, saying that both Romney and Ryan “disagree” with his statements, there was nothing in their statement that said they condemn his remarks as hurtful to victims. There was also nothing in Team Romney’s statement that pointed out that what Akin said about pregnancies resulting from rape being rare is just flat-out wrong.

Ryan was against abortion in all cases including rape until Team Romney’s statement. Romney has said he would get rid of Planned Parenthood and has been moving further right on women’s issues since he was a pro-choice governor of Massachusetts. This could be a huge problem for the Republican ticket in November.

NY Daily News - Todd Akin, Paul Ryan and the very real war on women

How does the view of the extremists that support abortion on demand differ from yours?

Are all rape accusations legitimate? Is statutory rape where the boy is 17 and the girl is 18, and they both consent, legitimate rape, or is it merely a legal fiction involving arbitrary age of consent laws?

What makes a bill that prohibits taxpayer funding of abortion controversial? The Hyde amendment, which is a law that is passed every year, does exactly the same thing, and routinely gets wide bipartisan support. Is that also controversial, even though Obama has signed it more than once?

Do you do anything other than parrot stupid stories you come across?

Hey quantum airbag, I don't support 'abortion on demand up to and including labor'. I have NEVER stated that or even hinted that. I have NEVER heard any liberal call for 'abortion on demand up to and including labor'. And the fact that you used the term 'abortion on demand' proves YOU are nothing but an empty headed parrot who squawks whatever you are fed by propagandists.

I believe a woman has the INDIVIDUAL right to make the decision if she wants to continue a pregnancy. The decision is not YOURS, mine, Obama's, or any party. The law is extreme only that it is extremely FAIR. If YOU don't want to have an abortion, DON'T HAVE ONE.

Hey frgn, I didn't say you did, I asked you to articulate the difference between your views and those of someone who does. The amazing thing is you can't actually do so. I wonder what the reason for that is.

I believe a woman has a right to choose anything she wants also, up to and including murdering the idiot that got her pregnant. The difference is that I recognize the difference between making a choice and doing something. If she chooses to act on her choice to commit murder the government gets to step in and punish her actions, not her choice.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

I have an idea. Why don't we ban all of those that are practicing Catholics from public office? As I understand it, the Catholic Church opposes abortion and we need to make that a litmus test. Better yet, ban all candidates of any religion that don't support abortion on demand and means testing the payment for abortion by the gubmint.

Don't you atheist bastards agree?

We could elect all Muslims, since their goal is to convert all infidels or kill them.

I'm not an atheist and I think Muslims suck.

Anything else you want to make up in an effort to defend this toad?

Honey, ALL Muslims aren't the same, just as ALL Christians aren't the same. Fundamentalists of any religion seem to have common hot buttons....especially where it concerns gaining political power viv-a vis social issues, and the laws that govern them.

I think that ANY religion that seeks to use the political process to limit personal freedoms or equal protection under our laws should be TAXED as any other political entity would. Deficit? The Holy See picks that tab up, and that would be for their bar tab for the last thirty years.

can we apply the same standards to any political group that wants to do the same thing? Do you think requiring the Democratic Party and the Republican Party to pay taxes will make a difference?

 

[Ravi]

And you can back up your obvious BS with quotes..

No you cant, lying is what the low life do........

I already shot down Carb's yarn about them being identical. I don't expect him to respond to my post.

You posted only one of Romney's several positions on abortion. Post them all, and you'll find that his support of a personhood amendment makes his position the same as Akins.

Romney flip flops about his views a lot....but in a way, that doesn't matter. As president, he wouldn't be writing law or voting on it. But as vice-president, Ryan would be voting on law and we already know he is against allowing the raped or under-aged to get an abortion.

This is the man Romney picked as vice-president.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

1st paragraph tells SO much about you. None of it nice.

2nd paragraph is a stupid as the first, WTF does a wallet have to do with rape?

So listen up, ass wipe:

NO means NO

period.

Seriously, some liberals on this site are actually arguing that Republicans support rapists. And you ... are ... enabling that. That says far, far more about you then my cussing someone out for doing that says about me.

You are enabling rapists because you're allowing Democrats to victimize them again for cheap political points. Stuff that up your ...

Disallowing abortion to women who are raped is supporting rapists.

Just like getting rid of the TSA is supporting terrorism.

 

[Wry Catcher]

First they withdrew his financing and he has caved to the parties demand that he step down. Seems the gop police's themselves fairly well. So now we won't see any more GOP rape threads right?

I won't be holding my breath for honesty from most of you.
ONTD_Political - Breaking: Todd Akin Quitting Senate Race, GOP Politicos State

It's always a good idea to check your source and have more than one; in particular when posting anything from sources you frequent.

Akin defies mounting calls to withdraw from Senate race - CNN.com

 

[courseofhistory]

Romney would be a-signin' those republican anti-abortion bills into law! Checks and balances is a big reason I will probably vote for Obama! He'll veto that crap!

 

[Meister]

And you can back up your obvious BS with quotes..

No you cant, lying is what the low life do........

I already shot down Carb's yarn about them being identical. I don't expect him to respond to my post.

You posted only one of Romney's several positions on abortion. Post them all, and you'll find that his support of a personhood amendment makes his position the same as Akins.

Rape, incest, health issues of the mother...is the crux of this, which is entirely different than Akin's. You can't spin those facts, or dodge it without responding to them, Carb.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Romney is not nearly as wacky as Ryan and Akin on abortion.

He is LDS, which means he believes all of us have pre-mortal existences as spirit personalities. Since, according to LDS belief, all of us have to have mortal bodies in the LDS plan of life, an abortion prevents that possibility. Thus, a spirit will have as many chances as necessary to get a mortal body.

Romney will push much lighter on these issues than Ryan or Sanctorum or the weirdos in the party.

 

[rightwinger]

Akin vows to stay to the end...they don't call them TeaTards for nothing

 

[kaz]

you're the one who looks upset, whining about neg rep.

I blasted you, bitch. If you don't know what "whining" is, buy a dictionary.

As for neg rep, I pointed out that it's a dickless cop out over using words to express yourself. The repressed anger of a shemale. I enjoy bitch slapping ho's like you. No anger about it. Which is why I thanked you. And why you are doing it even moreso, for someone else to use guns to take someone else's money and give it to you. And you'll do it in any sad, pathetic way you can get it.

What is actually the worst thing about you though is all the legitimate victims of rape in this country who have your tire marks driven over them by you on your way to government dependency. You lessen both the effect and impact of legitimate rape when you make it a cheap political trick to get any shallow partisan point out of it you can.

 

[JakeStarkey]

kaz is screwy if he thinks the government somehow makes women more subject the victim hood of rape.

That is one of the stupidest things Kaz has written in some time.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

Akin vows to stay to the end...they don't call them TeaTards for nothing

They don't call you a retard for nothing, Akin beat the Tea Party candidate, Palin endorsed Steelman.