TowerGate - Timeline and Connecting Dots...follow the money!

[LordBrownTrout]

Additional information:

TowerGate Begins – Yes, If Trump is Correct, Even Partially, Then President Obama Might Be in Big Trouble…

Summary of Media Articles Discussing Obama’s FISA Warrants To Monitor Candidate/President Trump…

Watergate is nothing compared to this.

 

[boedicca]

You are sorely mistaken in this case. It did continue...and that's why this situation requires investigation.

Again, you said it wasn't started then you said the wiretapping continued. It can't continue if it never started and the FISA court does not approve warrants without evidence.

What you are trying to say here is that the FISA Court denied the warrant which means they didn't approve it. Then you assert that the court that didn't approve it were wiretapping at the time of the second request. Then you're saying that the same court that denied it for lack of evidence then approved a warrant without evidence but they didn't need the warrant because they were already wiretapping and wouldn't stop wiretapping out of inconvenience.

Your timeline and assertions make no sense.

Classic explanation of the alt right's failure to create a consistent argument.

Yeah, the FBI asked for a tap. Yes, the court approved the warrant. Yes, we are waiting as Comey's feebs are sharpening the stake for the trampvires heart.

The FBI already cleared Trump. The tapping of Trump Tower showed nothing.

Give us a link then to a reputable sources, that says FBI clears Trump.

Investigating Donald Trump, F.B.I. Sees No Clear Link to Russia

FBI investigations into Trump-Russia ties yield little

He was cleared after the tapping of Trump Tower.

Of course he was - and thanks!

 

[LordBrownTrout]

very good, boedica

trump is in the snare and can't escape

Its the other way around. Why do you think the dems are squirming like a fish out of the water.

 

[boedicca]

Again, you said it wasn't started then you said the wiretapping continued. It can't continue if it never started and the FISA court does not approve warrants without evidence.

What you are trying to say here is that the FISA Court denied the warrant which means they didn't approve it. Then you assert that the court that didn't approve it were wiretapping at the time of the second request. Then you're saying that the same court that denied it for lack of evidence then approved a warrant without evidence but they didn't need the warrant because they were already wiretapping and wouldn't stop wiretapping out of inconvenience.

Your timeline and assertions make no sense.

Classic explanation of the alt right's failure to create a consistent argument.

Yeah, the FBI asked for a tap. Yes, the court approved the warrant. Yes, we are waiting as Comey's feebs are sharpening the stake for the trampvires heart.

The FBI already cleared Trump. The tapping of Trump Tower showed nothing.

Give us a link then to a reputable sources, that says FBI clears Trump.

Investigating Donald Trump, F.B.I. Sees No Clear Link to Russia

FBI investigations into Trump-Russia ties yield little

He was cleared after the tapping of Trump Tower.

You forgot to add the link that shows he was cleared as you said. You got that?

Cleared? He doesn't have to be "cleared". He was never charged with anything.

What the article CLEARLY demonstrates is that the Obabble fishing expedition FAILED, just like most Obabble initiatives do.

 

[boedicca]

Additional information:

TowerGate Begins – Yes, If Trump is Correct, Even Partially, Then President Obama Might Be in Big Trouble…

Summary of Media Articles Discussing Obama’s FISA Warrants To Monitor Candidate/President Trump…

Watergate is nothing compared to this.

You're right. Nixon didn't use the apparatus of the NSA to spy on political enemies.

 

[Billy_Bob]

The October FISA request (which omitted Trump's name) was approved. No evidence was found, but the eavesdropping continued.

Wireaping can't continue if it never started. Also they don't give FISA Warrants without evidence.

LOL

Its well documented that it was occurring.. But continue, Its amusing.

I can just imagine the big web or conference call under way right this minute in which the pants shitting Dems are desperately trying to deflect blame and identify scapegoats.

Lynch's signature is on the affidavit... Just Say'in..

Which puts her meeting on the tarmac with Bubba in an even more glaring light.

Kind of reeks of massive collusion (Criminal Collusion).. Don't IT?

Or should I call it what it really is, An ongoing criminal enterprise.

 

[boedicca]

Wireaping can't continue if it never started. Also they don't give FISA Warrants without evidence.

LOL

Its well documented that it was occurring.. But continue, Its amusing.

I can just imagine the big web or conference call under way right this minute in which the pants shitting Dems are desperately trying to deflect blame and identify scapegoats.

Lynch's signature is on the affidavit... Just Say'in..

Which puts her meeting on the tarmac with Bubba in an even more glaring light.

Kind of reeks of massive collusion (Criminal Collusion).. Don't IT?

Indeed, it does. Obama, his admin hench thugs, the DNC and Indivisible should be charged under RICO.

 

[JakeStarkey]

very good, boedica

trump is in the snare and can't escape

You are a bit more dense and clueless than usual today, bub.

The corruption of the Obabble Admin is quite glaring. One would hope that even the Progs (those who don't totally hate America) would be concerned about this...

Deflection to Obama is fail.

FBI convinced a court that evidence existed to tap Trump.

That is the issue: what was found out about his collusion with the Russians.

You didn't read the link. In the FISA request they purposely left Trump's name out.

This was a targeted, underhanded thing.

"Since Trump was the obvious target, the alleged failure to disclose his name in the second application could be a serious and severe violation of the obligation to disclose all material facts. Lastly, given the later behavior, it is evident any promise in the affidavit to protect the surveilled information from ever being sourced or disseminated was a false promise, intended to induce the illicit surveillance. This is criminalized both by federal perjury statutes, conspiracy statutes, and the FISA criminal laws themselves."

you and ALL right wingers ar WAYYYYY behind....

the Trump name was removed on the second request, because the server communicating with the Russian banks was renamed without the Trump name in the server name.

You are WAAAAAAAAYYYY behind by not understanding that the Obabble Admin spied on a private citizen.

Talk to the FBI.

 

[boedicca]

You are a bit more dense and clueless than usual today, bub.

The corruption of the Obabble Admin is quite glaring. One would hope that even the Progs (those who don't totally hate America) would be concerned about this...

Deflection to Obama is fail.

FBI convinced a court that evidence existed to tap Trump.

That is the issue: what was found out about his collusion with the Russians.

You didn't read the link. In the FISA request they purposely left Trump's name out.

This was a targeted, underhanded thing.

"Since Trump was the obvious target, the alleged failure to disclose his name in the second application could be a serious and severe violation of the obligation to disclose all material facts. Lastly, given the later behavior, it is evident any promise in the affidavit to protect the surveilled information from ever being sourced or disseminated was a false promise, intended to induce the illicit surveillance. This is criminalized both by federal perjury statutes, conspiracy statutes, and the FISA criminal laws themselves."

you and ALL right wingers ar WAYYYYY behind....

the Trump name was removed on the second request, because the server communicating with the Russian banks was renamed without the Trump name in the server name.

You are WAAAAAAAAYYYY behind by not understanding that the Obabble Admin spied on a private citizen.

Talk to the FBI.

Careforall being uninformed isn't a crime, FAKEY.

 

[HenryBHough]

Obama.

Abuse of power.

You expected other?

Get real.

please.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Boedicca, you have nothing. You don't like that a court gave the FBI reason to tap the towers because of Trump's collusion with the Russians.

Trump and Russia: What the fallout could be - CNNPolitics.com

 

[Billy_Bob]

very good, boedica

trump is in the snare and can't escape

You are a bit more dense and clueless than usual today, bub.

The corruption of the Obabble Admin is quite glaring. One would hope that even the Progs (those who don't totally hate America) would be concerned about this...

Deflection to Obama is fail.

FBI convinced a court that evidence existed to tap Trump.

That is the issue: what was found out about his collusion with the Russians.

Read this and get back to us on that, bub.

Yes, There Could Be Serious Legal Problems if Obama Admin Involved in Illegal Surveillance

Here's a particularly noteworthy passage:


Out of 35,000+ requests for surveillance, the FISA court has only ever rejected a whopping 12. Apparently, according to published reports, you can add one more to that — even the FISA court first rejected Obama’s request to spy on Trump’s team under the guise of an investigation into foreign agents of a pending war attack, intelligence agents apparently returned to the court, where, it is my assumption, that they did not disclose or divulge all material facts to the court when seeking the surveillance the second time around, some of which they would later wrongfully disseminate and distribute to the public. By itself, misuse of FISA procedures to obtain surveillance is itself, a crime.

This raises the second problem: Obama’s team submission of an affidavit to to the FISA court. An application for a warrant of any kind requires an affidavit, and that affidavit may not omit material factors. A fact is “material” if it could have the possible impact of impacting the judicial officer deciding whether to authorize the warrant. Such affidavits are the most carefully drawn up, reviewed, and approved affidavits of law enforcement in our system precisely because they must be fully-disclosing, forthcoming, and include any information a judge must know to decide whether to allow our government to spy on its own. My assumption would be that intelligence officials were trying to investigate hacking of DNC which is not even a FISA covered crime, so therefore serious questions arise about what Obama administration attorneys said to the FISA court to even consider the application. If the claim was “financial ties” to Russia, then Obama knew he had no basis to use FISA at all.

Since Trump was the obvious target, the alleged failure to disclose his name in the second application could be a serious and severe violation of the obligation to disclose all material facts. Lastly, given the later behavior, it is evident any promise in the affidavit to protect the surveilled information from ever being sourced or disseminated was a false promise, intended to induce the illicit surveillance. This is criminalized both by federal perjury statutes, conspiracy statutes, and the FISA criminal laws themselves.

That raises the third problem: it seems the FISA-compelled protocols for precluding the dissemination of the information were violated, and that Obama’s team issued orders to achieve precisely what the law forbids, if published reports are true about the administration sharing the surveilled information far-and-wide to promote unlawful leaks to the press. This, too, would be its own crime, as it brings back the ghost of Hillary’s emails — by definition, FISA information is strictly confidential or it’s information that never should have been gathered. FISA strictly segregates its surveilled information into two categories: highly confidential information of the most serious of crimes involving foreign acts of war; or, if not that, then information that should never have been gathered, should be immediately deleted, and never sourced nor disseminated. It cannot be both.

Recognizing this information did not fit FISA meant having to delete it and destroy it. According to published reports, Obama’s team did the opposite: order it preserved, ordered the NSA to search it, keep it, and share it; and then Obama’s Attorney General issued an order to allow broader sharing of information and, according to the New York Times, Obama aides acted to label the Trump information at a lower level of classification for massive-level sharing of the information. The problem for Obama is simple — if it could fit a lower level of classification, then it had to be deleted and destroyed, not disseminated and distributed, under crystal clear FISA law. Obama’s team’s admission it could be classified lower, yet taking actions to insure its broadest distribution, could even put Obama smack-middle of the biggest unlawful surveillance and political-opponent-smear campaign since Nixon. Except even Nixon didn’t use the FBI and NSA for his dirty tricks...

Yes, There Could Be Serious Legal Problems if Obama Admin Involved in Illegal Surveillance

I just looked at the author of your link...Dan Abrams is saying this....he is not a conservative hack.....he has worked for the regular networks and been a legal consultant..........I think obama minions should be very afraid........Trump is not Bush, mccain or Romney.....he isn't going to look the other way simply because "you just don't do that..." .......

I was just talking with friends in the Law Enforcement business and who are lawyers, with what is publicly known and reported, those who had anything to do with that FISA affidavit are in mortal danger of disbarment and criminal charges. It's is apparent that the omission was intentional and misleading.

This thing has got legs and its running now..

 

[Billy_Bob]

Boedicca, you have nothing. You don't like that a court gave the FBI reason to tap the towers because of Trump's collusion with the Russians.

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And yet the NY Times and the FBI have stated there is no evidence... Even the WH under Obama stated there was none. Odd that you can some how manufacture it when those investigating it say there is none.

 

[boedicca]

Boedicca, you have nothing. You don't like that a court gave the FBI reason to tap the towers because of Trump's collusion with the Russians.

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Poor daft and desperate FAKEY.

One must have a heart of stone to read your desperate posts without laughing.

 

[boedicca]

Boedicca, you have nothing. You don't like that a court gave the FBI reason to tap the towers because of Trump's collusion with the Russians.

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Oh, and who gave Putin access to 20% of the uranium in the U.S., hmmmmmm?

 

[JakeStarkey]

Bodedi can only attack another poster because she has nothing to go with.

Comey investigated Clinton.

Comey is investigating Trump.

The alt right fascists are flailing: such as the uranium comment above that Boedi can't sustain as absolving Trump.

 

[boedicca]

Bodedi can only attack another poster because she has nothing to go with.

Comey investigated Clinton.

Comey is investigating Trump.

The alt right fascists are flailing: such as the uranium comment above that Boedi can't sustain as absolving Trump.

And found nothing on Trump. But that hasn't stopped you loons from lobbing fake accusations.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Bodedi can only attack another poster because she has nothing to go with.

Comey investigated Clinton.

Comey is investigating Trump.

The alt right fascists are flailing: such as the uranium comment above that Boedi can't sustain as absolving Trump.

And found nothing on Trump. But that hasn't stopped you loons from lobbing fake accusations.

Are you referring to last Nov or to today? Think carefully.

 

[boedicca]

Bodedi can only attack another poster because she has nothing to go with.

Comey investigated Clinton.

Comey is investigating Trump.

The alt right fascists are flailing: such as the uranium comment above that Boedi can't sustain as absolving Trump.

And found nothing on Trump. But that hasn't stopped you loons from lobbing fake accusations.

Are you referring to last Nov or to today? Think carefully.

I suggest you just start thinking in the first place.

The Dems are promoting a witch hunt. The surveillance power that Obabble put in place (and you all cheered on) is now in the hands of Trump. Think carefully.

 

[tyroneweaver]

very good, boedica

trump is in the snare and can't escape

can't have it both ways
It you're claiming Trump had contact with the Russians, then it's thru Trump Towers you're getting your info
Something your buddies are denying
Which creates an alternative universe