Traitors and treason

[WildBillKelsoe]

I never disagreed, but if you think I'm going to agree about the refuge and ignore the black lives matter riots, you're sadly mistaken.

No one expects you to ignore Baltimore but to recognize it right along with Oregon.

No, y'all don't even want black lives matter mentioned. That's the reason for all the vitriol.

We discussed Baltimore 6 months ago when it happened.

Were you calling them traitors? Traitors is what the thread is about. If you want to exlude the communist backed black live matter, then the thread shouldn't be open to traitors and treason.

You stupid fuck, most of those involved in black live matter would not know Karl Marx from Groucho Marx. Just like most of the idiots at the Refuge haven't the slightest idea who Adam Smith was. You are ascribing political knowledge to people whose very lives are built on willful ignorance. Proven by the fact that most of the members of these whacko militia groups are on some kind of government dole.

And all you Liberals have are insults.

 

[Old Rocks]

Other examples of treason might include Bill Ayers and Dan Rather. A couple of decades ago Bill Ayers was terrorizing the Country with IED's detonated at Military recruitment centers and corporate headquarters and even the Pentagon. According to testimony of a gang member, the last bomb his little terrorist cell made was intended for U. S. Soldiers at a Ft. Dix dance. The bomb blew up prematurely and killed four members of his gang which made Ayers guilty of four felony murders. He was exonerated by a friendly federal judge who blamed the FBI for Ayers' unpleasantness. Today he is viewed as a left wing Robin Hood and is a "respected" college professor and a former adviser to the democrat party including the president. Dan Rather's treason didn't include violence but it was intended to derail the electoral process with forged documents. Today Rather makes about 100k per speech to low information democrats.

The Weather Underground got in a gun battle with the cops and robbed an armored car. But, the Liberals don't see anything wrong with that.

I agree, the extremist on both sides are wrong in using violence to protest. I find it amusing the each side excuses their own actions if it furthers their agenda.

The dudes in Oregon didn't use violence.

They didn't but they had guns and threatened to begin a civil war. The guy was reaching for something when he was shot. What are the police supposed to do, just wait them out for years?

Leave. Just leave them there. Ignore them. In less than a week they would be gone.

Liar. They were left alone, free to leave for over three weeks. They did not leave until they were shown that there were consequences for their actions.

 

[WildBillKelsoe]

And, queue the insults. Its impossible for Liberals to make argument, without vitriol.

Both Baltimore and Oregon are excellent examples of armed criminality by private groups.

Wow! That only took 5 pages...lol

You finally agree! Good for you.

I never disagreed, but if you think I'm going to agree about the refuge and ignore the black lives matter riots, you're sadly mistaken.

They did not get ignored. There were police with AR's out there putting the riots down. And neither I nor the vast majority ever condoned those riots. But there are a lot of you 'Conservatives' posting here that seem to approve of armed felons taking over property that belongs to all of us.

The cops were ordered to stand down.

 

[Old Rocks]

Other examples of treason might include Bill Ayers and Dan Rather. A couple of decades ago Bill Ayers was terrorizing the Country with IED's detonated at Military recruitment centers and corporate headquarters and even the Pentagon. According to testimony of a gang member, the last bomb his little terrorist cell made was intended for U. S. Soldiers at a Ft. Dix dance. The bomb blew up prematurely and killed four members of his gang which made Ayers guilty of four felony murders. He was exonerated by a friendly federal judge who blamed the FBI for Ayers' unpleasantness. Today he is viewed as a left wing Robin Hood and is a "respected" college professor and a former adviser to the democrat party including the president. Dan Rather's treason didn't include violence but it was intended to derail the electoral process with forged documents. Today Rather makes about 100k per speech to low information democrats.

The Weather Underground got in a gun battle with the cops and robbed an armored car. But, the Liberals don't see anything wrong with that.

Can you quote a Liberal saying they see nothing wrong with that?

Let's see where you condemned black lives matters as traitors.

Those involved in the riots were committing criminal acts, they were not trying to take down the government. Those in Oregon were committing criminal acts and trying to foment a civil war by their own admission. They stated that is what they wanted. That is treason.

 

[WildBillKelsoe]

Other examples of treason might include Bill Ayers and Dan Rather. A couple of decades ago Bill Ayers was terrorizing the Country with IED's detonated at Military recruitment centers and corporate headquarters and even the Pentagon. According to testimony of a gang member, the last bomb his little terrorist cell made was intended for U. S. Soldiers at a Ft. Dix dance. The bomb blew up prematurely and killed four members of his gang which made Ayers guilty of four felony murders. He was exonerated by a friendly federal judge who blamed the FBI for Ayers' unpleasantness. Today he is viewed as a left wing Robin Hood and is a "respected" college professor and a former adviser to the democrat party including the president. Dan Rather's treason didn't include violence but it was intended to derail the electoral process with forged documents. Today Rather makes about 100k per speech to low information democrats.

The Weather Underground got in a gun battle with the cops and robbed an armored car. But, the Liberals don't see anything wrong with that.

Can you quote a Liberal saying they see nothing wrong with that?

Let's see where you condemned black lives matters as traitors.

Those involved in the riots were committing criminal acts, they were not trying to take down the government. Those in Oregon were committing criminal acts and trying to foment a civil war by their own admission. They stated that is what they wanted. That is treason.

The militia dudes in Oregon weren't trying to take down the government, either.

 

[Old Rocks]

Both Baltimore and Oregon are excellent examples of armed criminality by private groups.

Wow! That only took 5 pages...lol

You finally agree! Good for you.

I never disagreed, but if you think I'm going to agree about the refuge and ignore the black lives matter riots, you're sadly mistaken.

They did not get ignored. There were police with AR's out there putting the riots down. And neither I nor the vast majority ever condoned those riots. But there are a lot of you 'Conservatives' posting here that seem to approve of armed felons taking over property that belongs to all of us.

The cops were ordered to stand down.

That is correct. As in free to leave at any time. Well, they sure as hell are not going to be free to leave federal property now for a number of years. Guess they got what they wanted. LOL

 

[WildBillKelsoe]

Wow! That only took 5 pages...lol

You finally agree! Good for you.

I never disagreed, but if you think I'm going to agree about the refuge and ignore the black lives matter riots, you're sadly mistaken.

They did not get ignored. There were police with AR's out there putting the riots down. And neither I nor the vast majority ever condoned those riots. But there are a lot of you 'Conservatives' posting here that seem to approve of armed felons taking over property that belongs to all of us.

The cops were ordered to stand down.

That is correct. As in free to leave at any time. Well, they sure as hell are not going to be free to leave federal property now for a number of years. Guess they got what they wanted. LOL

I was referring to the cops in Baltimore

Black Lives Matter fomented a government overthrow.

Black Lives Matter Leader Warns: Replace The Constitution Or Else This Will Happen

 

[Old Rocks]

Other examples of treason might include Bill Ayers and Dan Rather. A couple of decades ago Bill Ayers was terrorizing the Country with IED's detonated at Military recruitment centers and corporate headquarters and even the Pentagon. According to testimony of a gang member, the last bomb his little terrorist cell made was intended for U. S. Soldiers at a Ft. Dix dance. The bomb blew up prematurely and killed four members of his gang which made Ayers guilty of four felony murders. He was exonerated by a friendly federal judge who blamed the FBI for Ayers' unpleasantness. Today he is viewed as a left wing Robin Hood and is a "respected" college professor and a former adviser to the democrat party including the president. Dan Rather's treason didn't include violence but it was intended to derail the electoral process with forged documents. Today Rather makes about 100k per speech to low information democrats.

The Weather Underground got in a gun battle with the cops and robbed an armored car. But, the Liberals don't see anything wrong with that.

Can you quote a Liberal saying they see nothing wrong with that?

Let's see where you condemned black lives matters as traitors.

Those involved in the riots were committing criminal acts, they were not trying to take down the government. Those in Oregon were committing criminal acts and trying to foment a civil war by their own admission. They stated that is what they wanted. That is treason.

The militia dudes in Oregon weren't trying to take down the government, either.

This is addressed first and foremost to the entire U.S. military, but especially to the military Special Operations Command and community. Secondly, it is addressed to federal LEOs, and especially to their SRTs, such as the FBI HRT (many of whom are former military special operations). This comes from combat arms and special operations veterans, along with veteran Sheriffs and police officers, within the Oath Keepers organization:

Critical Warning:

Warning to U.S. Military and Federal LEOs: Do Not Follow Orders to "Waco" Ammon Bundy Occupation, or Risk Civil War - Oath Keepers

The Ammon Bundy led occupation of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge in Oregon must be handled as a normal, non-crisis, law enforcement matter, and preferably by Oregon Sheriffs (who are organized as the Oregon State Sheriffs’ Association), and their deputies, together with the local community there in Harney County, OR. The locals can resolve this, if given enough time. The Oregon Sheriffs can resolve this, if given enough time.

This situation must not be handled in a military or paramilitary fashion, using military assets, military rules of engagement, or otherwise attempting to end it suddenly by use of dynamic assault, resulting in catastrophic loss of life, as has occurred twice in recent American history, with horrific results (at Ruby Ridge in 1992, and at Waco Texas in 1993). If you do it “Waco” style here, you risk pushing this nation over the edge into a civil war, because there are “no more free Wacos.”

There you have it, a militia theatening Civil War.

 

[WildBillKelsoe]

The Weather Underground got in a gun battle with the cops and robbed an armored car. But, the Liberals don't see anything wrong with that.

Can you quote a Liberal saying they see nothing wrong with that?

Let's see where you condemned black lives matters as traitors.

Those involved in the riots were committing criminal acts, they were not trying to take down the government. Those in Oregon were committing criminal acts and trying to foment a civil war by their own admission. They stated that is what they wanted. That is treason.

The militia dudes in Oregon weren't trying to take down the government, either.

This is addressed first and foremost to the entire U.S. military, but especially to the military Special Operations Command and community. Secondly, it is addressed to federal LEOs, and especially to their SRTs, such as the FBI HRT (many of whom are former military special operations). This comes from combat arms and special operations veterans, along with veteran Sheriffs and police officers, within the Oath Keepers organization:

Critical Warning:

Warning to U.S. Military and Federal LEOs: Do Not Follow Orders to "Waco" Ammon Bundy Occupation, or Risk Civil War - Oath Keepers

The Ammon Bundy led occupation of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge in Oregon must be handled as a normal, non-crisis, law enforcement matter, and preferably by Oregon Sheriffs (who are organized as the Oregon State Sheriffs’ Association), and their deputies, together with the local community there in Harney County, OR. The locals can resolve this, if given enough time. The Oregon Sheriffs can resolve this, if given enough time.

This situation must not be handled in a military or paramilitary fashion, using military assets, military rules of engagement, or otherwise attempting to end it suddenly by use of dynamic assault, resulting in catastrophic loss of life, as has occurred twice in recent American history, with horrific results (at Ruby Ridge in 1992, and at Waco Texas in 1993). If you do it “Waco” style here, you risk pushing this nation over the edge into a civil war, because there are “no more free Wacos.”

There you have it, a militia theatening Civil War.

And here you have it,

Black Lives Matter Leader Warns: Replace The Constitution Or Else This Will Happen

 

[Old Rocks]

Far Right Militia Groups Worry That Bundy Boys Will Start Civil War II

Nevertheless, Vanderboegh, who warned at the Bundy ranch that the standoff could lead to “civil war on a vast scale” and more recently warned that a new Oregon gun buyers’ background check law could also lead to a civil war, wrote that if the federal government ends the Oregon standoff with force, he will have no choice but to join the Bundys in — you guessed it — a civil war.

In a statement published on his blog, Sipsey Street Irregulars, yesterday, Vanderboegh called the leaders of the Oregon takeover “federal provocateurs, sociopaths and idiots with a John Brown complex” and said that there are “far fewer than is claimed” occupying the building, adding that they have “written a check that they expect the rest of us to cash in our own blood in a ghastly civil war.”

More militia talking of Civil War.

 

[Old Rocks]

LOL Well, this fellow definately nails it.

 

[WildBillKelsoe]

Far Right Militia Groups Worry That Bundy Boys Will Start Civil War II

Nevertheless, Vanderboegh, who warned at the Bundy ranch that the standoff could lead to “civil war on a vast scale” and more recently warned that a new Oregon gun buyers’ background check law could also lead to a civil war, wrote that if the federal government ends the Oregon standoff with force, he will have no choice but to join the Bundys in — you guessed it — a civil war.

In a statement published on his blog, Sipsey Street Irregulars, yesterday, Vanderboegh called the leaders of the Oregon takeover “federal provocateurs, sociopaths and idiots with a John Brown complex” and said that there are “far fewer than is claimed” occupying the building, adding that they have “written a check that they expect the rest of us to cash in our own blood in a ghastly civil war.”

More militia talking of Civil War.

More talk of revolution by black lives militia

#BlackLivesMatter leader calls for violent revolution to change constitution

 

[bodecea]

Rioting and burning private property, while declaring, "no justice, no peace", is sedition as well.

The difference between the Oregon dustup and the black lives matter riots, is the protesters in Oregon didn't harm anyone, or anyone's property.

They didn't harm anyone's property? Then who paved a road through the refuge, took fences down and removed security cameras?

Who burned down buildings, assaulted and murdered innocent citizens in Baltimore and Ferguson?

Ah...were those acts forgiven and no police involved in stopping or punishing such things?

 

[WildBillKelsoe]

More Leftist traitors committing treason


Occupy Unmasked Vindicated: Leaders Concede Goal Is Revolution, Support Violence - Breitbart

 

[WildBillKelsoe]

Rioting and burning private property, while declaring, "no justice, no peace", is sedition as well.

The difference between the Oregon dustup and the black lives matter riots, is the protesters in Oregon didn't harm anyone, or anyone's property.

They didn't harm anyone's property? Then who paved a road through the refuge, took fences down and removed security cameras?

Who burned down buildings, assaulted and murdered innocent citizens in Baltimore and Ferguson?

Ah...were those acts forgiven and no police involved in stopping or punishing such things?

Was Louis Head charged with a crime when he ordered protesters to, "burn this bitch down"?

No, he wasn't.

 

[Papageorgio]

The dudes in Oregon didn't use violence.

They didn't but they had guns and threatened to begin a civil war. The guy was reaching for something when he was shot. What are the police supposed to do, just wait them out for years?

Leave. Just leave them there. Ignore them. In less than a week they would be gone.

Leave them there?? Since when do folks get to move into public property?

You must hate the shit out of the occupy movement.

Many of whom were arrested.

Damn, there goes your nonsensical point, eh?

Most walked away, very few arrests.

 

[Faun]

Other examples of treason might include Bill Ayers and Dan Rather. A couple of decades ago Bill Ayers was terrorizing the Country with IED's detonated at Military recruitment centers and corporate headquarters and even the Pentagon. According to testimony of a gang member, the last bomb his little terrorist cell made was intended for U. S. Soldiers at a Ft. Dix dance. The bomb blew up prematurely and killed four members of his gang which made Ayers guilty of four felony murders. He was exonerated by a friendly federal judge who blamed the FBI for Ayers' unpleasantness. Today he is viewed as a left wing Robin Hood and is a "respected" college professor and a former adviser to the democrat party including the president. Dan Rather's treason didn't include violence but it was intended to derail the electoral process with forged documents. Today Rather makes about 100k per speech to low information democrats.

The Weather Underground got in a gun battle with the cops and robbed an armored car. But, the Liberals don't see anything wrong with that.

Can you quote a Liberal saying they see nothing wrong with that?

Let's see where you condemned black lives matters as traitors.

So that would be a resounding, "no." You can't quote any Liberals saying what you claimed.

Thanks!

And btw, I condemn anyone rioting and/or looting and/or injuring anyone illegally.

You sure as he'll can't quote any liberals condeming black lives matter riots...lol

Why would I? I made no such claim.

Whereas you made a claim you can't prove.

Which is proof you're full of shit.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Let's see where you condemned black lives matters as traitors.

They are criminals, just like Oregon guys. Your tu quoque means nothing as a defense for Oregon.

 

[HenryBHough]

Were treason suddenly prosecuted the whole Democrat Party would be behind bars. Maybe it's just as well that it isn't - because the bastards would expect we working folks to feed 'em.

 

[Katzndogz]

More Leftist traitors committing treason


Occupy Unmasked Vindicated: Leaders Concede Goal Is Revolution, Support Violence - Breitbart

So what? Get it over with. Shut the bastards up for a generation or more. We can listen to them whine and complain for another dozen years or put them in the ground.