Trump. Abortions no longer a major issue and other related issues.

[struth]

You clearly have not been paying attention.

I have

 

[XponentialChaos]

Some do. But after the defeats in some borderline States they are going to realize they have to temper their expectations.

Many more are like me who want some restrictions as I stated, at the State level. 10-15 weeks for birth control abortions.

They can push all they want, unless they get supermajorities of people who want to ban it, it's physically impossible for it to happen.

The SC justices who overturned Roe did just that, because Roe was shit law, based on nothing but the desires of the Justices who passed it. As bad as Plessey was in that regards.

If Republicans get a supermajority, they’re going to push a national abortion ban. Agree or disagree?

 

[struth]

House Republicans Endorse a National Abortion Ban with Zero Exceptions in Latest Budget​

Trump has made clear he would not sugnn such a bill

 

[martybegan]

If Republicans get a supermajority, they’re going to push a national abortion ban. Agree or disagree?

It would have to be all hard core pro-lifers, and in that situation that means the majority of the country would want a ban.

A large supermajority. Enough to pass an Amendment to get it. At that point you are then on the small minority side opposing it.

 

[g5000]

Overturning Roe allowed places like NY and CA to allow abortion up to the last second, just like you ghouls wanted.

Horseshit. Total horseshit.

Abortion is legal in New York through 24 weeks. Thereafter, abortion is legal when the fetus is not viable or when necessary to protect the patient's life or health.

https://www.findlaw.com/state/new-york-law/new-york-abortion-laws.html

Abortion is legal in California until fetal viability. Thereafter, abortion is legal if a physician certifies that continuation of the pregnancy poses a risk to the pregnant person's life or health.

https://www.findlaw.com/state/california-law/california-abortion-laws.html

 

[g5000]

Trump has made clear he would not sugnn such a bill

Former President Donald Trump said Thursday that he believes abortion will be a “small issue” in the November elections now that the power to ban abortion is in the hands of state lawmakers, but added that he is open to federal restrictions on abortion that would “supplement” state policy.

Trump says abortion will be a ‘small issue’ in November, leaves door open to federal restrictions​

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Donald Trump suggested in a news conference Thursday that he is open to curbing access to abortion pills through federal regulations, declining to rule out a sweeping move that some antiabortion allies have advocated.

Trump suggests he’s open to revoking access to abortion pill​

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[g5000]

Trump has ZERO to do with politics in Alabama.

Alabama was like that well before Trump even tried to run for office.

Again, he takes credit for the repeal. Therefore, he is responsible for the fallout.

 

[g5000]

What the Democrats want is that abortion be up to the woman and doctor into the 8th, 9th month and immediately after the baby is born.

Yes or No?

Nope.

 

[XponentialChaos]

It would have to be all hard core pro-lifers, and in that situation that means the majority of the country would want a ban.

A large supermajority. Enough to pass an Amendment to get it. At that point you are then on the small minority side opposing it.

So you expect me to believe that a super majority of Republicans would not pass a national abortion ban because the Republicans who are not “hard core” would stand up and defend abortion rights.

LoL, ok.

 

[g5000]

There are more single who-ers who have as their only issue the right to kill their baby than decent people suspected.

Wrong.

There are millions of women who would never have an abortion who are pro-choice.

 

[struth]

Former President Donald Trump said Thursday that he believes abortion will be a “small issue” in the November elections now that the power to ban abortion is in the hands of state lawmakers, but added that he is open to federal restrictions on abortion that would “supplement” state policy.

Trump says abortion will be a ‘small issue’ in November, leaves door open to federal restrictions​

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Donald Trump suggested in a news conference Thursday that he is open to curbing access to abortion pills through federal regulations, declining to rule out a sweeping move that some antiabortion allies have advocated.

Trump suggests he’s open to revoking access to abortion pill​

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Haha trump has stayed he will not sign any national abortion ban.

 

[Billiejeens]

Wrong.

There are millions of women who would never have an abortion who are pro-choice.

Nope

 

[g5000]

how many and which ones?

100 percent of the leadership and 80 percent of the members.

That's a supermajority. Bigly.

 

[g5000]

I have

Boy are you in for a surprise!

 

[g5000]

Haha trump has stayed he will not sign any national abortion ban.

When 100 percent of the leadership and 80 percent of the members tell him to, he will.

That's how Trump rolls.

 

[martybegan]

Horseshit. Total horseshit.

Abortion is legal in New York through 24 weeks. Thereafter, abortion is legal when the fetus is not viable or when necessary to protect the patient's life or health.

https://www.findlaw.com/state/new-york-law/new-york-abortion-laws.html

Abortion is legal in California until fetal viability. Thereafter, abortion is legal if a physician certifies that continuation of the pregnancy poses a risk to the pregnant person's life or health.

https://www.findlaw.com/state/california-law/california-abortion-laws.html

Once you add the word "health" you basically give permission up to the last second as long as one doctor thinks said health is at risk. Is health depression? is health stretch marks? And Cali add the term "risk". Maybe she will have high blood pressure after she gives birth?

Notice it doesn't say and viability in NY, it's viability OR the mother's health is at risk. That means as long as 1 doctor signs off, viability doesn't matter. abort away.

 

[martybegan]

Again, he takes credit for the repeal. Therefore, he is responsible for the fallout.

This is necessary fallout. The issue is Dems lying that somehow overturning Roe means abortion BANS, not restrictions, BANS everywhere!!!1

Roe was shit law. As shitty as Plessey and Chevron.

 

[martybegan]

So you expect me to believe that a super majority of Republicans would not pass a national abortion ban because the Republicans who are not “hard core” would stand up and defend abortion rights.

LoL, ok.

Actually you aren't seeing the actual issue in your scenario, which would be so many people supporting abortion bans they vote in enough abortion ban supporters to make an amendment banning abortion possible.

 

[martybegan]

100 percent of the leadership and 80 percent of the members.

That's a supermajority. Bigly.

That's from a white house press release, and where in that document they don't show does it clearly say abortion ban?

 

[Missouri_Mike]

Trump seems to understand that abortion is a losing issue for Republicans but he is wrong, it's going to be a big deal still.

https://thehill.com/homenews/4819080-trump-downplays-abortion-issue/

I argued the Republicans should have sided with Roberts. I believe he went with a 20 weeks ban which would have fit an updated RvW timeline. Viable.

Premature babies are now routinely viable at 22 weeks. 21 in some cases so 20 would have gave the benefit of the doubt.

https://www.wsj.com/health/healthcare/premature-babies-hospitals-pregnancy-fa1f091f

What we got is an increase in abortions.

https://www.axios.com/2023/10/24/abortion-increase-roe-wade-state-ban

If Trump didn't want abortion to be a major issue in this years election he shouldn't have picked a guy that has made such creepy policy proposals over abortion.

JD Vance called for ‘federal response’ to block women from traveling for abortions

It’s no longer a federal issue so there’s no need to even talk about it. If you want to discuss abortion go talk to your state reps.