colfax_m
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Because i don’t know that they’re an insignificant and vanishingly small fringe (and that statement itself is ambiguous to the point of being meaningless). Indications are they’re more prevalent than we know.Depends on what you mean by fringe I guess, but if you spend any time online, you’d see that white supremacist ideology has either grown or been unmasked.
Judging reality from what you see online, is a good way to be wrong.
And my question stands. Why do you WANT this to be true?
I disagree. People are afraid to openly admit to harboring white supremacist ideologies. Online, they are free to express their ideology. The internet provides a valuable insight to this. It pops up openly from time to time. Sometimes very obvious:
White supremacist Coast Guard officer sentenced to 13 years in prison
Sometimes more subtle:
Rio Arriba County sheriff flashes controversial hand gesture
Sometimes violently:
El Paso Walmart Shooting Suspect Pleads Not Guilty
Who said I want it to be true? I think it is true and the truth doesn’t care what I want or don’t want.
Sure. The very, very few who hold such ideologies are afraid to admit it in real life and thus they spend a lot of time online, creating the illusion that they are more numerous than they really are.
YOu look at any numbers in real life, and they are vanishingly small. David Duke, when he ran for Presidency, got .04 % of the national vote.
Why do you want this to be true?
David Duke ran for president 30 years ago and got nearly 50k votes. 50k is not so vanishingly small that it’s impossible to attract a few hundred in one place at a time.
I’m not making conclusions on the size of the population. I’m just saying it’s larger than is apparent.
50k? Out of over a hundred million votes?
At that level, you really have to wonder, how many of them are errors.
And yet, other than this Unite the Right rally, where they put all their efforts into co-opting another far more popular issue,
when was the last time that they got "a few hundred in one place at a time"?
I don't recall it happening in my lifetime. (middle aged man)
Let me ask my question another way. Why do you not want to admit they are an insignificant and vanishingly small fringe?
However prevalent they are, I don’t want them to be ignored or minimized given their violent ideology.