trump advisers draw up plan to pressure Ukraine to end the war, if he is re-elected

[JimH52]

Cutting off economic access to the west

Is Putin willing to have those sanctions remain in place?

Of course not. Poootin will require sanctions to be lifted before an agreement. And trump will gladly ablige him.

End the war?

Hell no, keep it going like Joe, Joe does!!!!

MAGA loves Poootin. They want a leader like Poootin.....so they will vote for trump.

 

[martybegan]

The west has critical technologies needed by Russia
If Putin is willing to live with sanctions …..let him

He has been for almost 3 years now.

 

[martybegan]

Because it is costly maintaining hostile captured territory

It is why the US left Vietnam and Afghanistan

Russians have a different mindset when it comes to casualties.

 

[JimH52]

The west has critical technologies needed by Russia
If Putin is willing to live with sanctions …..let him

Face it....Poootin is playing chess while MAGA is challenged with checkers. They can hardly think beyond the end of their orange noses.

 

[rightwinger]

Russians have a different mindset when it comes to casualties.

Russian boys are not coming home in large numbers
Russia is expending military equipment that cannot be replaced
They have lost access to modern technology needed for high tech equipment

 

[martybegan]

Russian boys are not coming home in large numbers
Russia is expending military equipment that cannot be replaced
They have lost access to modern technology needed for high tech equipment

And yet they still have the initiative in the field, and the Homefront isn't showing any signs of an organized sustained dissident movement.

 

[rightwinger]

He has been for almost 3 years now.

Russia has expended all its high tech military equipment without a means to replace it.

Russia is no longer a modern military fighting force

 

[martybegan]

Russia has expended all its high tech military equipment without a means to replace it.

Russia is no longer a modern military fighting force

And yet they still dictate the pace of the fighting and the location of the fighting, and hold most of the territory they would want in any settlement.

 

[JimH52]

Russia has expended all its high tech military equipment without a means to replace it.

Russia is no longer a modern military fighting force

But trump will give them territory that that illegally seized and reward them with millions of dollars of stolen resources. That is his and Poootin's plan.

 

[rightwinger]

And yet they still dictate the pace of the fighting and the location of the fighting, and hold most of the territory they would want in any settlement.

So did the US in Vietnam and Afghanistan

 

[Donald H]

Trump is straight up on declaring that America started the war.

It's just a question of whether he can go completely public with it and sell it to the American people?

Trump points to ‘cause’ of Ukraine conflict

The former US leader has blamed the fighting on President Joe Biden’s “crazy” and “provocative” rhetoric about Kiev joining NATO

www.rt.com

There's a video of Trump in the link of Trump telling it the way he sees it.

 

[martybegan]

So did the US in Vietnam and Afghanistan

And as I've said before, the Russian will over losses and casualties is far higher than the US will.

 

[ESay]

Russia is facing massive sanctions from the west
Should they be just forgiven?
Under what terms?

What is Russia offering?

No, they shouldn't. Putin made his proposals (or more correctly, demands) some days ago. They should be a starting point in future negotiations.

 

[martybegan]

But trump will give them territory that that illegally seized and reward them with millions of dollars of stolen resources. That is his and Poootin's plan.

And what's your plan for removing Russia from the Donbas and Crimea and keeping them out?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Cutting off economic access to the west

Is Putin willing to have those sanctions remain in place?

Biden only hurt the USA

 

[Rawley]

Trump’s Advisers Draw Up Plan to Give Ukraine Twisted Ultimatum

Putin, meanwhile, continues to push his own plot which would carve up the country.

www.thedailybeast.com

The plan has the strong smell of Putin's hand on it. So, trump seems intent on rewarding his pal, Vlad, for invading a neighboring country? Great, the US, which prides itself on not rewarding authoritarians would give Putin thousands of square miles of Ukrainian territory if Donald is re-elected. I am sure Vlad is giddy over the possibility trump will return to office.

What evidence do you have that Lieutenant General Keith Kellogg is on Putin's payroll?

 

[rightwinger]

No, they shouldn't. Putin made his proposals (or more correctly, demands) some days ago. They should be a starting point in future negotiations.

Putin needs to understand what negotiation means

When his invasion of Ukraine failed to dislodge the Ukraine Government, he lost the ability to demand terms of peace.

He needs to offer something in order to receive peace

What is Russia offering Ukraine in return?

 

[Rawley]

And what's your plan for removing Russia from the Donbas and Crimea and keeping them out?

LOL

 

[rightwinger]

And as I've said before, the Russian will over losses and casualties is far higher than the US will.

The US has something Russia doesn’t
An economy that can sustain an occupation for decades and an ability to replenish its military.

 

[ESay]

Putin needs to understand what negotiation means

When his invasion of Ukraine failed to dislodge the Ukraine Government, he lost the ability to demand terms of peace.

He needs to offer something in order to receive peace

What is Russia offering Ukraine in return?

I already told you. Stopping losing more territories and people.