Trump and Melania test positive for COVID-19

[Flopper]

President Donald Trump, who has been diagnosed with COVID-19, was headed to Walter Reed National Military Medical Center Friday afternoon, per White House pool reporters.
The president was being flown to the hospital, per multiple outlets, and was expected to undergo tests there, unnamed sources told The New York Times.

TRUMP HOSPITALIZED — ‘FEVER,’ ‘FATIGUE’ — DEVELOPING...

I don't trust a single word coming out of the White House as to his condition.
I'll believe what's going on when I see a press conference with his doctors at Walter Reed.
Everything else is happy talk. Sad

He's on remdesivir therapy. It was described to me as being an intravenous medication which is a far cry away from hydroxy tablets. He's also taking an experimental medicine REGN-COV2.
But he is not on breathing assistance.

It sounds incredibly serious when you start getting into the realm of drugs that the FDA hasn't approved.

Staying At Walter Reed Hospital, Trump Has Started Remdesivir Therapy

The president, who tested positive for the coronavirus, "has completed his first dose and is resting comfortably," physician Sean Conley said in a statement.

www.npr.org

As healthcare professional have said so often, this virus is unpredictable. However, a good indication of the outcome is how well he does over the first 3 or 4 days. Almost everyone that is admitted to hospital with Corvid will have symptoms for about 2 weeks. A small percent will have symptoms that linger for months. His O2 level of 96 is good and so far it looks like he does not have a lot lower respiratory distress.

As much as I can't stand the guy, I do hope he makes a recover. However, a near death experience might do him some good. It often does. Look at Boris Johnson.

 

[colfax_m]

Where is YOUR SCEINTIFIC EVIDENCE PEEPS...........

I don't see it...............I'm showing it OVER AND OVER AGAIN............

Counter it WITH SCIENCE..........hmmmm

You’re not showing anything other than your misuse of studies that you don’t really understand.

BS.............I just showed VIDEOS.........talking about the very thing.......and they are the Professionals........PERIOD.

You keep saying I misrepresent studies.............PROVE IT.........you haven't SHOWN ANY PROOF WHATSOEVER OF ANYTHING HERE.

NONE...........NADDA.........ZILCH...........NOTHING...

Now show me the SCIENCE that disproves these guys.........GO AHEAD.

I already critiqued your faulty assumptions made in several of these studies but you ignored it.

Show me evidence against the articles I posted or STFU

Again, I’m not refuting the articles.

But you need to stop claiming the articles say things they don’t.

What things they don't say............YOU DON'T SAY..............EXACTLY WHAT HAVE I MISREPRESENTED.....

I've now shown MORE PROGESSIONALS saying the same thing.............What am I misrepresenting......and PROVE IT.

I can do this shit all day bro.........doctor after doctor ...study after study..........HOW ABUUT YOU....

You still haven't produced an OUNCE OF EVIDENCE for ANYTHING..........NOTHING......NADDA........ZILCH.......

You’re claiming that a paper that shows T cell reactivity to COVID makes one immune. We don’t know that and the paper does not make this claim.

LOL

It according to MANY SOURCES.........gives some immunity and immunity to a portion of those tested in SCIENCE........

You MORON..............over and over again.........those people doing the Scientific data Say it is key to their finding a long term solution for it..........as antibodies go away to quick........LIKE THE SEASONAL FLU...........

Again..............you haven't shown ANYTHING to counter what i've said here.......NOTHING.

You’ve shown no papers that demonstrate it. The one that came close doesn’t actually make that claim. I don’t care who you’re quoting from YouTube or whatever, because it’s not reflective of the literature.

STFU...........

PISS OFF........you haven't shown jack squat that you can't refute what i've shown..........

I’ve already told you that what you’ve shown doesn’t say what you think it does.

You don’t really understand what you’re reading. Do you have any scientific background?

 

[Slade3200]

you don’t know what you’re talking about.

CDC and WHO offer conflicting advice on masks. An expert tells us why.

The WHO issued new guidance that may seem confusing to Americans, who have been advised by the CDC, to wear cloth face masks in public to slow COVID-19's spread.

abcnews.go.com

Neither do you.

Why are you posting an article from May to refute my article from September?

 

[eagle1462010]

Where is YOUR SCEINTIFIC EVIDENCE PEEPS...........

I don't see it...............I'm showing it OVER AND OVER AGAIN............

Counter it WITH SCIENCE..........hmmmm

You’re not showing anything other than your misuse of studies that you don’t really understand.

BS.............I just showed VIDEOS.........talking about the very thing.......and they are the Professionals........PERIOD.

You keep saying I misrepresent studies.............PROVE IT.........you haven't SHOWN ANY PROOF WHATSOEVER OF ANYTHING HERE.

NONE...........NADDA.........ZILCH...........NOTHING...

Now show me the SCIENCE that disproves these guys.........GO AHEAD.

I already critiqued your faulty assumptions made in several of these studies but you ignored it.

Show me evidence against the articles I posted or STFU

Again, I’m not refuting the articles.

But you need to stop claiming the articles say things they don’t.

What things they don't say............YOU DON'T SAY..............EXACTLY WHAT HAVE I MISREPRESENTED.....

I've now shown MORE PROGESSIONALS saying the same thing.............What am I misrepresenting......and PROVE IT.

I can do this shit all day bro.........doctor after doctor ...study after study..........HOW ABUUT YOU....

You still haven't produced an OUNCE OF EVIDENCE for ANYTHING..........NOTHING......NADDA........ZILCH.......

You’re claiming that a paper that shows T cell reactivity to COVID makes one immune. We don’t know that and the paper does not make this claim.

LOL

It according to MANY SOURCES.........gives some immunity and immunity to a portion of those tested in SCIENCE........

You MORON..............over and over again.........those people doing the Scientific data Say it is key to their finding a long term solution for it..........as antibodies go away to quick........LIKE THE SEASONAL FLU...........

Again..............you haven't shown ANYTHING to counter what i've said here.......NOTHING.

You’ve shown no papers that demonstrate it. The one that came close doesn’t actually make that claim. I don’t care who you’re quoting from YouTube or whatever, because it’s not reflective of the literature.

STFU...........

PISS OFF........you haven't shown jack squat that you can't refute what i've shown..........

I’ve already told you that what you’ve shown doesn’t say what you think it does.

You don’t really understand what you’re reading. Do you have any scientific background?

What qualifies you for anything............PISS OFF

 

[Slade3200]

2 minutes in............showing CDC guidelines for masks.........cloth masks......before that the WHO saying cloth masks don't work.

check it out..........funny how the CDC forgets what it says before.......LOL

Funny how you think quoting statements made a month after the virus landed are somehow more relevant to what they are saying after learning much much more about how it works. That’s a joke of an argument you’re making there. Do better

Funny how I predicted a lot of what happened from the beginning.........you not so much.

Which part of my posting is pissing you off too...............I've shown article after article......peer reviewed studies........

Exactly what is so wrong with it............hmmm...........

People like you screwed this country royally with your FEAR MONGERING.............I'm showing data............you can't refute the data............I did it by reading studies back then and now...........

Your side just goes..........WE HATE TRUMP EVERYDAY........you are useless.

What exactly do you think I predicted?

 

[colfax_m]

Where is YOUR SCEINTIFIC EVIDENCE PEEPS...........

I don't see it...............I'm showing it OVER AND OVER AGAIN............

Counter it WITH SCIENCE..........hmmmm

You’re not showing anything other than your misuse of studies that you don’t really understand.

BS.............I just showed VIDEOS.........talking about the very thing.......and they are the Professionals........PERIOD.

You keep saying I misrepresent studies.............PROVE IT.........you haven't SHOWN ANY PROOF WHATSOEVER OF ANYTHING HERE.

NONE...........NADDA.........ZILCH...........NOTHING...

Now show me the SCIENCE that disproves these guys.........GO AHEAD.

I already critiqued your faulty assumptions made in several of these studies but you ignored it.

Show me evidence against the articles I posted or STFU

Again, I’m not refuting the articles.

But you need to stop claiming the articles say things they don’t.

What things they don't say............YOU DON'T SAY..............EXACTLY WHAT HAVE I MISREPRESENTED.....

I've now shown MORE PROGESSIONALS saying the same thing.............What am I misrepresenting......and PROVE IT.

I can do this shit all day bro.........doctor after doctor ...study after study..........HOW ABUUT YOU....

You still haven't produced an OUNCE OF EVIDENCE for ANYTHING..........NOTHING......NADDA........ZILCH.......

You’re claiming that a paper that shows T cell reactivity to COVID makes one immune. We don’t know that and the paper does not make this claim.

LOL

It according to MANY SOURCES.........gives some immunity and immunity to a portion of those tested in SCIENCE........

You MORON..............over and over again.........those people doing the Scientific data Say it is key to their finding a long term solution for it..........as antibodies go away to quick........LIKE THE SEASONAL FLU...........

Again..............you haven't shown ANYTHING to counter what i've said here.......NOTHING.

You’ve shown no papers that demonstrate it. The one that came close doesn’t actually make that claim. I don’t care who you’re quoting from YouTube or whatever, because it’s not reflective of the literature.

STFU...........

PISS OFF........you haven't shown jack squat that you can't refute what i've shown..........

I’ve already told you that what you’ve shown doesn’t say what you think it does.

You don’t really understand what you’re reading. Do you have any scientific background?

What qualifies you for anything............PISS OFF

I’ve been reading medical literature for decades. I have degree in biochemistry. An MD. Two board certifications.

What do you have?

 

[Andylusion]

Trump’s COVID-19 diagnoses is the consequence of a WH engaged in reckless, irresponsible behavior during a pandemic – where the wearing of masks was shunned, social distancing not practiced, and the health and safety guidelines ignored.

As a result of this administration’s willful ignorance and utter incompetence, the president has been hospitalized, other WH staff have been likewise infected, and scores of other individuals have been placed at needless risk.

Indeed, we continue to receive reports of individuals who have come into contact with Trump being infected with COVID-19.

This administration is clearly incapable of sound, responsible governance.

Really? Like Denmark shunned masks? Sweden shunned masks?

Surgical, Cotton Masks Equally Ineffective in Blocking COVID-19 Spread, Say Investigators

Investigators found greater SARS–CoV-2 contamination on the outer surface of the face masks than on the inner surfaces.

www.infectioncontroltoday.com

You do realize that everything we know, suggests masks are not effective.... you know that, right?

Masks are not to protect the wearer. They are extremely useful in protecting people from the person wearing the mask. The most common means of transmission is frankly spittle. When you speak hundreds or even thousands of tiny droplets of spittle are launched. At least if you are human it is. The masks catch a hell of a lot of this spittle.

Still Confused About Masks? Here’s the Science Behind How Face Masks Prevent Coronavirus

We talked to UCSF epidemiologist George Rutherford, MD, and infectious disease specialist Peter Chin-Hong, MD, about the CDC’s reversal on mask-wearing, the current science on how masks work, and what to consider when choosing a mask.

www.ucsf.edu

Picture it this way. Omaha Beach on D-day. We have all seen the pictures and movies. We can barely imagine the horror of that day. Now imagine that day with half as many machine guns firing on our troops. More troops get off the beach alive right? So if everyone is wearing a mask the reduction in produced droplets of spittle infected with COVID is at least cut in half.

These are similar to the masks worn by the surgical team in a sterile environment trying to remove your head from your ass. Why don’t they shrug and say it is no use since the masks do not stop the virus particles?

Masks are not to protect the wearer. They are extremely useful in protecting people from the person wearing the mask.

Then you didn't read the article. The whole point of the article was that they tested a person who had Covid-19, and were sick, and they had the mask on.

What they found is that Covid-19 was still released into the environment. The masks did nothing. That was whole entire point of the article, if you had read it. There was zero evidence that even surgical masks prevented the spread, let alone the N95.

As for your link.... did you read your link? It's ridiculous. "but that nearly all these droplets were blocked when the mouth was covered by a damp washcloth."

Really? Damp washclothes? First, no kidding. Having a damp cloth over your mouth, like you are being water boarded, does reduce covid-19 dropplets being released.

Please show me the number of people wearing damp face masks? I'll help you out. The number is somewhere below one.

No one is walking around with damp face masks, so using that as a reason to say masks work is idiotic.

Another study of people who had influenza or the common cold found that wearing a surgical mask significantly reduced the amount of these respiratory viruses emitted in droplets and aerosols.

Which begs a huge question if you read the data. According to this data, influenza is getting through the masks far more than Common Cold Covid. (notice they did not test Covid-19 specifically, just other corona illnesses).

So influenza is getting through the mask.... but influenza is far less contagious than Covid-19, which the mask prevents. Yet we already know Covid is far more contagious than influenza.

See a problem there sparky? Influenza is making it through the masks, but influenza is less contagious than Covid-19. That means one of two things... either the primary method of transmission is not through coughing and breathing, thus the masks are pointless, or the test is bad, and they are simply not detecting the virus being transmitted. Because we know for a fact that Covid-19 is far more contagious, and yet Influenza according to that research is more contagious.

A recent study published in Health Affairs, for example, compared the COVID-19 growth rate before and after mask mandates in 15 states and the District of Columbia. It found that mask mandates led to a slowdown in daily COVID-19 growth rate, which became more apparent over time. The first five days after a mandate, the daily growth rate slowed by 0.9 percentage-points compared to the five days prior to the mandate; at three weeks, the daily growth rate had slowed by 2 percentage-points.

Now this is ridiculous. This is just shockingly dumb.

You know what else happened at exactly the same time as the mask mandates? And I mean the EXACT SAME TIME....? The lock down. Stopping large meetings, and large social gatherings.

I don't know of a single state anywhere, that has zero lock down, zero restrictions, but promoted mask wearing alone.

So how do you even think you can tease out the effects of the lock down, and separate them from the effects of the mask wearing?

Of course you can't. Of course you can't! It is impossible. If they even attempt to claim they can, they are liars.

How do I know this? Denmark. Denmark actually discouraged use of masks. I don't see the Denmark had drastically higher death rates, or infection rates, than the rest of Europe, or the US.

So no. Dumb dumb dumb article.

 

[eagle1462010]

Where is YOUR SCEINTIFIC EVIDENCE PEEPS...........

I don't see it...............I'm showing it OVER AND OVER AGAIN............

Counter it WITH SCIENCE..........hmmmm

You’re not showing anything other than your misuse of studies that you don’t really understand.

BS.............I just showed VIDEOS.........talking about the very thing.......and they are the Professionals........PERIOD.

You keep saying I misrepresent studies.............PROVE IT.........you haven't SHOWN ANY PROOF WHATSOEVER OF ANYTHING HERE.

NONE...........NADDA.........ZILCH...........NOTHING...

Now show me the SCIENCE that disproves these guys.........GO AHEAD.

I already critiqued your faulty assumptions made in several of these studies but you ignored it.

Show me evidence against the articles I posted or STFU

Again, I’m not refuting the articles.

But you need to stop claiming the articles say things they don’t.

What things they don't say............YOU DON'T SAY..............EXACTLY WHAT HAVE I MISREPRESENTED.....

I've now shown MORE PROGESSIONALS saying the same thing.............What am I misrepresenting......and PROVE IT.

I can do this shit all day bro.........doctor after doctor ...study after study..........HOW ABUUT YOU....

You still haven't produced an OUNCE OF EVIDENCE for ANYTHING..........NOTHING......NADDA........ZILCH.......

You’re claiming that a paper that shows T cell reactivity to COVID makes one immune. We don’t know that and the paper does not make this claim.

LOL

It according to MANY SOURCES.........gives some immunity and immunity to a portion of those tested in SCIENCE........

You MORON..............over and over again.........those people doing the Scientific data Say it is key to their finding a long term solution for it..........as antibodies go away to quick........LIKE THE SEASONAL FLU...........

Again..............you haven't shown ANYTHING to counter what i've said here.......NOTHING.

You’ve shown no papers that demonstrate it. The one that came close doesn’t actually make that claim. I don’t care who you’re quoting from YouTube or whatever, because it’s not reflective of the literature.

STFU...........

PISS OFF........you haven't shown jack squat that you can't refute what i've shown..........

I’ve already told you that what you’ve shown doesn’t say what you think it does.

You don’t really understand what you’re reading. Do you have any scientific background?

What qualifies you for anything............PISS OFF

I’ve been reading medical literature for decades. I have degree in biochemistry. An MD. Two board certifications.

What do you have?

Yawn..........you have no proof of that.......and it changes NOTHING.......Those articles I posted are point blank PROFESSIONALS..........

So PISS OFF.......You aren't shit.....and have provided this to this thread.............Jack and Squat.

 

[colfax_m]

Where is YOUR SCEINTIFIC EVIDENCE PEEPS...........

I don't see it...............I'm showing it OVER AND OVER AGAIN............

Counter it WITH SCIENCE..........hmmmm

You’re not showing anything other than your misuse of studies that you don’t really understand.

BS.............I just showed VIDEOS.........talking about the very thing.......and they are the Professionals........PERIOD.

You keep saying I misrepresent studies.............PROVE IT.........you haven't SHOWN ANY PROOF WHATSOEVER OF ANYTHING HERE.

NONE...........NADDA.........ZILCH...........NOTHING...

Now show me the SCIENCE that disproves these guys.........GO AHEAD.

I already critiqued your faulty assumptions made in several of these studies but you ignored it.

Show me evidence against the articles I posted or STFU

Again, I’m not refuting the articles.

But you need to stop claiming the articles say things they don’t.

What things they don't say............YOU DON'T SAY..............EXACTLY WHAT HAVE I MISREPRESENTED.....

I've now shown MORE PROGESSIONALS saying the same thing.............What am I misrepresenting......and PROVE IT.

I can do this shit all day bro.........doctor after doctor ...study after study..........HOW ABUUT YOU....

You still haven't produced an OUNCE OF EVIDENCE for ANYTHING..........NOTHING......NADDA........ZILCH.......

You’re claiming that a paper that shows T cell reactivity to COVID makes one immune. We don’t know that and the paper does not make this claim.

LOL

It according to MANY SOURCES.........gives some immunity and immunity to a portion of those tested in SCIENCE........

You MORON..............over and over again.........those people doing the Scientific data Say it is key to their finding a long term solution for it..........as antibodies go away to quick........LIKE THE SEASONAL FLU...........

Again..............you haven't shown ANYTHING to counter what i've said here.......NOTHING.

You’ve shown no papers that demonstrate it. The one that came close doesn’t actually make that claim. I don’t care who you’re quoting from YouTube or whatever, because it’s not reflective of the literature.

STFU...........

PISS OFF........you haven't shown jack squat that you can't refute what i've shown..........

I’ve already told you that what you’ve shown doesn’t say what you think it does.

You don’t really understand what you’re reading. Do you have any scientific background?

What qualifies you for anything............PISS OFF

I’ve been reading medical literature for decades. I have degree in biochemistry. An MD. Two board certifications.

What do you have?

Yawn..........you have no proof of that.......and it changes NOTHING.......Those articles I posted are point blank PROFESSIONALS..........

So PISS OFF.......You aren't shit.....and have provided this to this thread.............Jack and Squat.

Don’t ask questions you don’t want answers too.

I see you’re done trying to quote studies and hiding behind these “professionals”. That’s probably because the studies don’t say what you’re claiming.

Over and over again, you’ve quoted studies that you clearly don’t understand.

 

[Andylusion]

Trump’s COVID-19 diagnoses is the consequence of a WH engaged in reckless, irresponsible behavior during a pandemic – where the wearing of masks was shunned, social distancing not practiced, and the health and safety guidelines ignored.

As a result of this administration’s willful ignorance and utter incompetence, the president has been hospitalized, other WH staff have been likewise infected, and scores of other individuals have been placed at needless risk.

Indeed, we continue to receive reports of individuals who have come into contact with Trump being infected with COVID-19.

This administration is clearly incapable of sound, responsible governance.

Really? Like Denmark shunned masks? Sweden shunned masks?

Surgical, Cotton Masks Equally Ineffective in Blocking COVID-19 Spread, Say Investigators

Investigators found greater SARS–CoV-2 contamination on the outer surface of the face masks than on the inner surfaces.

www.infectioncontroltoday.com

You do realize that everything we know, suggests masks are not effective.... you know that, right?

Great site for Infection Preventionists! The first article was written in April, which your link goes to, but then other articles are right after it, that are about what they've Learned over time, with other experiments.... cotton masks for us laymen, appear to be the best...And New emerging clear masks have great promise... the articles all are for healthcare workers in hospital settings... but it does go in to masks for outside of hospital settings about the third or fourth article down....

Nice claims. Could be true. Where is your proof?

I've read through the links thus far, and none make that case conclusively.

The very fact they are using such scant meager evidence, suggests it's more opinion than fact.

I'm not opposed to it. I just don't see the evidence for it. There is no real evidence that masks work.

Covid-19 came from China, where they were wearing masks all the time anyway. If the masks worked, there should never have been a pandemic.

And equally here in the US, we've been wearing masks since April. Why hasn't it worked?

As much as you people scream about Trump..... the fact is, we've all been locked down, and we've all been wearing masks, since March honestly.

Why hasn't it worked? Why is it, that in Denmark, they didn't see dramatically higher rates of infection and death than the US, when Denmark DISCOURAGED the use of masks?

Why? You keep saying it's so effective.... where's the proof?

 

[eagle1462010]

Where is YOUR SCEINTIFIC EVIDENCE PEEPS...........

I don't see it...............I'm showing it OVER AND OVER AGAIN............

Counter it WITH SCIENCE..........hmmmm

You’re not showing anything other than your misuse of studies that you don’t really understand.

BS.............I just showed VIDEOS.........talking about the very thing.......and they are the Professionals........PERIOD.

You keep saying I misrepresent studies.............PROVE IT.........you haven't SHOWN ANY PROOF WHATSOEVER OF ANYTHING HERE.

NONE...........NADDA.........ZILCH...........NOTHING...

Now show me the SCIENCE that disproves these guys.........GO AHEAD.

I already critiqued your faulty assumptions made in several of these studies but you ignored it.

Show me evidence against the articles I posted or STFU

Again, I’m not refuting the articles.

But you need to stop claiming the articles say things they don’t.

What things they don't say............YOU DON'T SAY..............EXACTLY WHAT HAVE I MISREPRESENTED.....

I've now shown MORE PROGESSIONALS saying the same thing.............What am I misrepresenting......and PROVE IT.

I can do this shit all day bro.........doctor after doctor ...study after study..........HOW ABUUT YOU....

You still haven't produced an OUNCE OF EVIDENCE for ANYTHING..........NOTHING......NADDA........ZILCH.......

You’re claiming that a paper that shows T cell reactivity to COVID makes one immune. We don’t know that and the paper does not make this claim.

LOL

It according to MANY SOURCES.........gives some immunity and immunity to a portion of those tested in SCIENCE........

You MORON..............over and over again.........those people doing the Scientific data Say it is key to their finding a long term solution for it..........as antibodies go away to quick........LIKE THE SEASONAL FLU...........

Again..............you haven't shown ANYTHING to counter what i've said here.......NOTHING.

You’ve shown no papers that demonstrate it. The one that came close doesn’t actually make that claim. I don’t care who you’re quoting from YouTube or whatever, because it’s not reflective of the literature.

STFU...........

PISS OFF........you haven't shown jack squat that you can't refute what i've shown..........

I’ve already told you that what you’ve shown doesn’t say what you think it does.

You don’t really understand what you’re reading. Do you have any scientific background?

What qualifies you for anything............PISS OFF

I’ve been reading medical literature for decades. I have degree in biochemistry. An MD. Two board certifications.

What do you have?

Yawn..........you have no proof of that.......and it changes NOTHING.......Those articles I posted are point blank PROFESSIONALS..........

So PISS OFF.......You aren't shit.....and have provided this to this thread.............Jack and Squat.

Don’t ask questions you don’t want answers too.

I see you’re done trying to quote studies and hiding behind these “professionals”. That’s probably because the studies don’t say what you’re claiming.

Over and over again, you’ve quoted studies that you clearly don’t understand.

BYE..........ANOTHER ONE TO IGNORE.

 

[colfax_m]

Where is YOUR SCEINTIFIC EVIDENCE PEEPS...........

I don't see it...............I'm showing it OVER AND OVER AGAIN............

Counter it WITH SCIENCE..........hmmmm

You’re not showing anything other than your misuse of studies that you don’t really understand.

BS.............I just showed VIDEOS.........talking about the very thing.......and they are the Professionals........PERIOD.

You keep saying I misrepresent studies.............PROVE IT.........you haven't SHOWN ANY PROOF WHATSOEVER OF ANYTHING HERE.

NONE...........NADDA.........ZILCH...........NOTHING...

Now show me the SCIENCE that disproves these guys.........GO AHEAD.

I already critiqued your faulty assumptions made in several of these studies but you ignored it.

Show me evidence against the articles I posted or STFU

Again, I’m not refuting the articles.

But you need to stop claiming the articles say things they don’t.

What things they don't say............YOU DON'T SAY..............EXACTLY WHAT HAVE I MISREPRESENTED.....

I've now shown MORE PROGESSIONALS saying the same thing.............What am I misrepresenting......and PROVE IT.

I can do this shit all day bro.........doctor after doctor ...study after study..........HOW ABUUT YOU....

You still haven't produced an OUNCE OF EVIDENCE for ANYTHING..........NOTHING......NADDA........ZILCH.......

You’re claiming that a paper that shows T cell reactivity to COVID makes one immune. We don’t know that and the paper does not make this claim.

LOL

It according to MANY SOURCES.........gives some immunity and immunity to a portion of those tested in SCIENCE........

You MORON..............over and over again.........those people doing the Scientific data Say it is key to their finding a long term solution for it..........as antibodies go away to quick........LIKE THE SEASONAL FLU...........

Again..............you haven't shown ANYTHING to counter what i've said here.......NOTHING.

You’ve shown no papers that demonstrate it. The one that came close doesn’t actually make that claim. I don’t care who you’re quoting from YouTube or whatever, because it’s not reflective of the literature.

STFU...........

PISS OFF........you haven't shown jack squat that you can't refute what i've shown..........

I’ve already told you that what you’ve shown doesn’t say what you think it does.

You don’t really understand what you’re reading. Do you have any scientific background?

What qualifies you for anything............PISS OFF

I’ve been reading medical literature for decades. I have degree in biochemistry. An MD. Two board certifications.

What do you have?

Yawn..........you have no proof of that.......and it changes NOTHING.......Those articles I posted are point blank PROFESSIONALS..........

So PISS OFF.......You aren't shit.....and have provided this to this thread.............Jack and Squat.

Don’t ask questions you don’t want answers too.

I see you’re done trying to quote studies and hiding behind these “professionals”. That’s probably because the studies don’t say what you’re claiming.

Over and over again, you’ve quoted studies that you clearly don’t understand.

BYE..........ANOTHER ONE TO IGNORE.

Adios snowflake.

 

[Slade3200]

Funny how you think quoting statements made a month after the virus landed are somehow more relevant to what they are saying after learning much much more about how it works. That’s a joke of an argument you’re making there. Do better

We learned lots. Like masks don't stop viruses they stop aerosol droplets and those droplets get trapped in masks. We learned that viruses are typically transmitted from hand to face. Each time you put on that mask you're touching your face, each time you pull the mask down (like I see many doing) you are infecting your face with whatever is on your hands.

Wow, you are unbelievable. You mean all those germs that would be in your mouth or your hands get stuck in the mask?! And you think that’s helping your point?!

 

[Slade3200]

Funny how you think quoting statements made a month after the virus landed are somehow more relevant to what they are saying after learning much much more about how it works. That’s a joke of an argument you’re making there. Do better

We learned lots. Like masks don't stop viruses they stop aerosol droplets and those droplets get trapped in masks. We learned that viruses are typically transmitted from hand to face. Each time you put on that mask you're touching your face, each time you pull the mask down (like I see many doing) you are infecting your face with whatever is on your hands.

Masks don’t stop viruses, huh? Is that why doctors and nurses who treat contagious patients wear them and don’t get sick?! Dude you’re way to dumb to be trying to make this argument

 

[eagle1462010]

Funny how you think quoting statements made a month after the virus landed are somehow more relevant to what they are saying after learning much much more about how it works. That’s a joke of an argument you’re making there. Do better

We learned lots. Like masks don't stop viruses they stop aerosol droplets and those droplets get trapped in masks. We learned that viruses are typically transmitted from hand to face. Each time you put on that mask you're touching your face, each time you pull the mask down (like I see many doing) you are infecting your face with whatever is on your hands.

Masks don’t stop viruses, huh? Is that why doctors and nurses who treat contagious patients wear them and don’t get sick?! Dude you’re way to dumb to be trying to make this argument

Surgical masks.......not cloth ones......I could show the studies again on that but what's the dang point.

Most in this country are wearing cloth masks or gators .........that get soaking ass wet with sweat during the day.....in the outdoors at work........kinda like water boarding yourself every day with Sweat............these are NOT SURGICAL MASKS............

Even if they were.........they will get wet quickly........making them frankly USELESS.......but we have to play the stupid game at work..........EVERY FUCKING DAY........I'm sick of it.

The studies show that medical workers shouldn't wear cloth masks..........google it.

 

[Muhammed]

I’m all for personal responsibly. Part of that responsibility is to act in a way to keep yourself and your community safe. Part of our nations leaders res1ponsibility is to keep us ACCURATELY informed and to give guidelines and support so we can act in a safe way.

It's the Democrats and their fake news media affiliates that are spreading disinformation regarding the virus, dumbass. They're going around bombarding the airwaves and internet with false claims the the most powerful man in the world said the COVID 19 is a fucking hoax, even though their own most often cited favorite fact checkers admit that Trump never said it was a hoax.

And the Democrats did it with a professional cleverly edited deep fake video of the same type that our military and intelligence agencies use against our foreign enemies.

Now there are millions of people in the USA who think COVID 19 is a hoax, not because the president said it, but because Democrats who control the media told them the president said it. And the Democrats have been telling that big lie over and over for months.

Fuck off, scumbag. You're a piece of shit.

 

[bravoactual]

Three Lying Ass RePuBliKlans have tested Postive for COVID...Senate will return to session until October 19...two weeks later than planned.

Coronavirus infects three senators, derailing Senate schedule

But Republicans are still moving forward with Amy Coney Barrett's Supreme Court confirmation hearings.

www.politico.com

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You don't wear a mask, you don't social distance, you get sick.

Dumb as shit Cons are getting what they so richly deserve.

 

[eagle1462010]

Three Lying Ass RePuBliKlans have tested Postive for COVID...Senate will return to session until October 19...two weeks later than planned.

Coronavirus infects three senators, derailing Senate schedule

But Republicans are still moving forward with Amy Coney Barrett's Supreme Court confirmation hearings.

www.politico.com

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You don't wear a mask, you don't social distance, you get sick.

Dumb as shit Cons are getting what they so richly deserve.

LOL

You scared bro.............LOL



I violate the damned don'ts every dang day at work...........try wearing that stupid ass mask or gator soaked in sweat in the south all summer and tell me how it works out for you............LOL

We've been running 3 inch rigid conduit at work........obey that video with a mask on chump.

 

[charwin95]

I wonder if Trump still thinks it's a hoax?

There are two types of people who believe that Trump said the virus is a hoax.

Type 1 are people who don't really follow politics. They just heard the lie about Trump on the fake news or in casual conversation or something and never bothered to fact check it. They are not aware that the Democrats are such despicable lying immoral America hating scumbags that they would purposefully and relentlessly disseminate dangerous defamatory disinformation regarding COVID 19. They have only heard one side of the story and are a bit naive regarding exactly how fucking evil Democrats really are. It's simply unfathomable for them to believe that Democrats would stoop so low that they would spread such an unconscionable lie. A lie that has certainly caused an untold number of Americans to die a slow painful death drowning in their own bodily fluids.

My aunt was type one. She doesn't follow politics. She's never even voted before in her life. She wasn't taking prudent precautions to because she heard that the POTUS said the virus was a hoax. She didn't start taking prudent precautions until after I informed her that the POTUS never said that. She was so incredulous that anyone would spread such a unconscionable lie that I had to send her a link to the unedited version of Trump's speech before she believed me.

Type 2 are low IQ individuals. TDS afflicted morons who do not possess the critical thinking skills necessary to fact check anything. They are feeble-minded individuals who's low IQ makes them extremely suggestable and therefore easily brainwashed by the fake news media via the simplest brainwashing technique. Repeated messaging. They will believe whatever lie about Trump has been told to them repeatedly, even after they have been informed of the truth. If they are told both the truth and a lie, they will believe whatever they heard most often. And in this case, they believe the lie because they were simply told the lie more often than the truth. In their simpleton minds, the lie becomes the truth. They're idiots.

You are not type 1. You have been informed on this very board that Trump never said that the virus was a hoax.

On the last Friday of February 2020 during the first major breakout of the virus in the US, Trump held a campaign rally in South Carolina and made comments during a speech in which he accused Democrats of “politicizing” the coronavirus outbreak that left many with the impression that he had referred to the virus itself as a “hoax.” He of course was referring to Democrat comments in the media about the seriousness of the virus and that it was not just the flu. Trump did not say "the virus is a hoax" but that is exactly what he meant. His downplaying of virus, misrepresenting the facts, attacking medical experts that were cautioning the public confirms that a hoax is exactly what he thought or what he hoped the voters would think.

Apparently you believe in categorizing people which is at the heart of the greatest problems this country faces. The problem with categorizing people is that when we do that we dehumanize them. People are no longer individuals, with unique backgrounds, upbringings, genes, quirks, traits and opinions. Instead, people are symbols. They are black or white or Irish Catholic or liberal or conservative or rich or poor. When you lump people into categories, they becomes symbols not individuals. And that leads to deep resentments, persecution, harassment, riots, and bloodshed.

Now see, there you go with "he didn't directly say it, but we know what he meant" bullcrap. You Democrats have been trying to figure Trump out ever since his office was bugged, and you still don't know crap.

Fast forward to now in virus land, and you'll see that it doesn't matter on either side what was said about the virus, because this virus does what it wants to do when it wants to do it. Mask don't work, even though they might mitigate flying debris from a person sneezing or coughing if sick, but the spread isn't slowing. Trump fast tracking a vaccine is the only answer.

Mask don’t work? NOW we see Trump going to his helicopter wearing a mask and the rest of his team are now wearing mask.

Convenient timing after that side show they called a debate the other night. Guess they really really really didn't want to debate again. Ha. I'm sure Biden is just as pleased.

Biden was in close proximity for 90 minuets.... He gets a test too...

God will see to it that biden gets it.

All Biden needs to do is touch the surface where the virus is and then touch his face by putting on or taking off his mask and he has got it... Shit happens... and there isn't anything anyone can do about it unless you live in a sterile bubble..

Yup. These lefty meatheads think you can control a virus.

You can't. No matter who runs the show, no matter what they have to say, no matter what they do a pandemic kills. It can't be controlled.

It will get into any country no matter the safeguards that country institutes. Its a killer and can't be controlled.

Of course it can be controlled and reduced in spread.

It can't be eliminated entirely, until at 80 or 90% herd immunity, via vaccination. The small pox virus was killed, eliminated, is one example

because smallpox only infects humans and has no other reservoir or infection source. It also didn't mutate into differing forms like some other viruses do.

ok

But we still can control virus spread, through our actions... we have always been able to ....

With AIDS, wear a rubber...

With the Spanish flu, wear masks, cancelled schools, churches and gatherings of people together...

With measles, quarantine kids at home...

Only the Spanish Flu is applicable, and even then they had to balance risk of infection with risk of economic disaster.

What you are looking for is zero risk of infection at the cost of destroying the economy.

I m not looking for zero risk.

Well that's what your side appears to be selling.

There is no need to "sell it" Marty, it's actually FACT BASED....

Those spreading the bull crud that masks don't work to slow down the spread of infection, are the ones trying to sell the Brooklyn Bridge, to everyone.

Those saying that masks will protect you or imply they will protect you 100% are trying to sell you the bridge.

I searched all the way to the end of the internet (it's granny porn, btw), and I couldn't find anyone who said or implied masks will protect you 100%. You may have to look elsewhere for your bridge.

They imply it when they force everyone to wear them and don't tell people it only lowers your risk (actually lowering other's risk)

I guess you haven't seen the ads and signs, "I wear a mask for you". Another failure of the Trump administration is not creating a nationwide advertising campaign for mask wearing and social distancing. Of course that would be rather hypocritical when the president is mocking and downplaying it.

The President cannot mandate the wearing of garb. If he did that you guys would be accusing him of being a tyrant. Grow up.

Yes he can but cowardly he didn’t because of incompetent and ineptness.

No, he can't. Even if he did the only law enforcement agency he has that could enforce it is the FBI. He could also use other FEDERAL officers, or nationalize the guard to do it, but with the guard you run into posese commitus issues.

Yes he can. The least minimum he can do was to encourage people to wear mask. Not discouraged people not to wear mask.At the same the main source misinformation and conspiracies. That alone he failed big time.

 

[lantern2814]

I wonder if Trump still thinks it's a hoax?

There are two types of people who believe that Trump said the virus is a hoax.

Type 1 are people who don't really follow politics. They just heard the lie about Trump on the fake news or in casual conversation or something and never bothered to fact check it. They are not aware that the Democrats are such despicable lying immoral America hating scumbags that they would purposefully and relentlessly disseminate dangerous defamatory disinformation regarding COVID 19. They have only heard one side of the story and are a bit naive regarding exactly how fucking evil Democrats really are. It's simply unfathomable for them to believe that Democrats would stoop so low that they would spread such an unconscionable lie. A lie that has certainly caused an untold number of Americans to die a slow painful death drowning in their own bodily fluids.

My aunt was type one. She doesn't follow politics. She's never even voted before in her life. She wasn't taking prudent precautions to because she heard that the POTUS said the virus was a hoax. She didn't start taking prudent precautions until after I informed her that the POTUS never said that. She was so incredulous that anyone would spread such a unconscionable lie that I had to send her a link to the unedited version of Trump's speech before she believed me.

Type 2 are low IQ individuals. TDS afflicted morons who do not possess the critical thinking skills necessary to fact check anything. They are feeble-minded individuals who's low IQ makes them extremely suggestable and therefore easily brainwashed by the fake news media via the simplest brainwashing technique. Repeated messaging. They will believe whatever lie about Trump has been told to them repeatedly, even after they have been informed of the truth. If they are told both the truth and a lie, they will believe whatever they heard most often. And in this case, they believe the lie because they were simply told the lie more often than the truth. In their simpleton minds, the lie becomes the truth. They're idiots.

You are not type 1. You have been informed on this very board that Trump never said that the virus was a hoax.

On the last Friday of February 2020 during the first major breakout of the virus in the US, Trump held a campaign rally in South Carolina and made comments during a speech in which he accused Democrats of “politicizing” the coronavirus outbreak that left many with the impression that he had referred to the virus itself as a “hoax.” He of course was referring to Democrat comments in the media about the seriousness of the virus and that it was not just the flu. Trump did not say "the virus is a hoax" but that is exactly what he meant. His downplaying of virus, misrepresenting the facts, attacking medical experts that were cautioning the public confirms that a hoax is exactly what he thought or what he hoped the voters would think.

Apparently you believe in categorizing people which is at the heart of the greatest problems this country faces. The problem with categorizing people is that when we do that we dehumanize them. People are no longer individuals, with unique backgrounds, upbringings, genes, quirks, traits and opinions. Instead, people are symbols. They are black or white or Irish Catholic or liberal or conservative or rich or poor. When you lump people into categories, they becomes symbols not individuals. And that leads to deep resentments, persecution, harassment, riots, and bloodshed.

Now see, there you go with "he didn't directly say it, but we know what he meant" bullcrap. You Democrats have been trying to figure Trump out ever since his office was bugged, and you still don't know crap.

Fast forward to now in virus land, and you'll see that it doesn't matter on either side what was said about the virus, because this virus does what it wants to do when it wants to do it. Mask don't work, even though they might mitigate flying debris from a person sneezing or coughing if sick, but the spread isn't slowing. Trump fast tracking a vaccine is the only answer.

Please stop spreading disinformation

STFU you ignorant clown. Between you, Slade and the other leftards here it’s hard to tell who’s dumbest. Another moron utterly disconnected from reality.