Actually, Biden wasn't privy to take them as he wasn't a president at the time he stole them.No. Even the trump appointed special prosecutor noted the difference. His only prayer is to attempt to nullify the jury. Donny is going to trial.
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Actually, Biden wasn't privy to take them as he wasn't a president at the time he stole them.No. Even the trump appointed special prosecutor noted the difference. His only prayer is to attempt to nullify the jury. Donny is going to trial.
They should drop charges since democrats claim Trump also has dementia.
Exactly...... I still can't believe what a word trap this guy Hur laid on Biden. Talk about damned if you do and damned if you don't.There is really no difference aside from Biden having dementia.
He must have been privy, whether president or not. His clearance obviously allowed it. Trust me. If you don't have the clearance, you don't even get in, much less get to handle the documents.Actually, Biden wasn't privy to take them as he wasn't a president at the time he stole them.
Don't hold your breath.
I read it, but just don't agree with it.Yeah I know but do you at least see my point now?
I read it, but just don't agree with it.
It is interesting you think Donnie is demented though.
You will have to get the special investigator to make that determination.They should drop charges since democrats claim Trump also has dementia.
He's more of a lunatic fringe kinda guy.I read it, but just don't agree with it.
It is interesting you think Donnie is demented though.
WTF?No retard. Courts have said the National Archives have NO right to decide what is or is not a Presidential Record. No wonder people like you hate the truth. You don’t know anything about anything.
Yes..........ASK.Haw!
Whaddaya mean “if?”
I gave you a quote from the law, and a link to check it out for yourself. Did you see anywhere on that quote or in that link where it says a president has to ask For a copy from the national archives?
You must be.Are you living in an alternate universe? Is it just as hard to find a charger for your elective vehicle there?
Why would the National Archives demand copies be returned?Sure, if you are just willing to accept the indictment as reveal truth, and don’t need any other information, then feel free to ignore the evidence you see with your own eyes.
Well, I showed you the law. Where in the law does it say he has to first turn them over to the National Archives, and then ask -hat in hand I guess you are imagining - for the copies?Yes..........ASK.
Something Trump never did.
I never said that the National Archives gave Trump the copies.Why would the National Archives demand copies be returned?
Copies that were given to Trump by the National Archives?
Wrong, asshole. Seems, as usual, YOU don’t know shit. NARA can’t determine what is or is not a Presidential record. Courts have stated that they do NOT have that authority. Your whiny cut and paste has nothing to do with that ruling. What a dumbass YOU are. Not a surprise.WTF?
The courts don't decide anything.
What a DUMBASS.
The Presidential Records Act (PRA) requires the President to separate personal documents from Presidential records before leaving office. 44 U.S.C. 2203(b).
The PRA makes clear that, upon the conclusion of the President’s term in office, NARA assumes responsibility for the custody, control, preservation of, and access to the records of a President. 44 U.S.C. 2203(g)(1).
The PRA makes the legal status of Presidential records clear and unambiguous, providing that the United States reserves and retains “complete ownership, possession, and control of Presidential records.” 44 U.S.C. 2202.
There is no history, practice, or provision in law for presidents to take official records with them when they leave office to sort through.
You don't know shit.
If they weren’t presidential records, then what are they?Wrong, asshole. Seems, as usual, YOU don’t know shit. NARA can’t determine what is or is not a Presidential record. Courts have stated that they do NOT have that authority. Your whiny cut and paste has nothing to do with that ruling. What a dumbass YOU are. Not a surprise.
§ 2202. Ownership of Presidential recordsWell, I showed you the law. Where in the law does it say he has to first turn them over to the National Archives, and then ask -hat in hand I guess you are imagining - for the copies?
I never said that the National Archives gave Trump the copies.
Now that you mention it, Trump, in fact, did ask for copies of one set of documents. From the FBI.
He did it in writing, very formally. He did not have to do that, but he wanted to take away the any excuse the FBI might dream up to stonewall as Trump suspected they were doing. He only wanted to get the copies that the PRA says he legally has a right to.
Guess what? The FBI stonewalled anyway, and never gave him the copies. They made no excuse, just ignored the president's written directive, like the rogue agency they are. Hard to blame a duly elected president from enforcing the law himself, once the agencies who are supposed to enforce it refuse.
I never stated they did.Wrong, asshole. Seems, as usual, YOU don’t know shit. NARA can’t determine what is or is not a Presidential record.
NOT sole authority.Courts have stated that they do NOT have that authority.
Your whiny cut and paste has nothing to do with that ruling. What a dumbass YOU are. Not a surprise.
Yes. That applies to PRESIDENTIAL RECORDS.§ 2202. Ownership of Presidential records
The United States shall reserve and retain complete ownership, possession, and control of Presidential records; and such records shall be administered in accordance with the provisions of this chapter.
§ 2203. Management and custody of Presidential records
(a) Through the implementation of records management controls and other necessary actions, the President shall take all such steps as may be necessary to assure that the activities, deliberations, decisions, and policies that reflect the performance of the President’s constitutional, statutory, or other official or ceremonial duties are adequately documented and that such records are preserved and maintained as Presidential records pursuant to the requirements of this section and other provisions of law.
(b) Documentary materials produced or received by the President, the President’s staff, or units or individuals in the Executive Office of the President the function of which is to advise or assist the President, shall, to the extent practicable, be categorized as Presidential records or personal records upon their creation or receipt and be filed separately.
Yes. That applies to PRESIDENTIAL RECORDS.
According to the law:
(2) The term "Presidential records" means documentary materials, or any reasonably segregable portion thereof, created or received by the President, the President's immediate staff, or a unit or individual of the Executive Office of the President whose function is to advise or assist the President, in the course of conducting activities which relate to or have an effect upon the carrying out of the constitutional, statutory, or other official or ceremonial duties of the President. Such term—
(A) includes any documentary materials relating to the political activities of the President or members of the President's staff, but only if such activities relate to or have a direct effect upon the carrying out of constitutional, statutory, or other official or ceremonial duties of the President; but
(B) does not include any documentary materials that are (i) official records of an agency (as defined in section 552(e) 1 of title 5, United States Code); (ii) personal records; (iii) stocks of publications and stationery; or (iv) extra copies of documents produced only for convenience of reference, when such copies are clearly so identified.
The law is what it is, not what you wish it were.
No, that is the law, that's why I posted it.Yes. That applies to PRESIDENTIAL RECORDS.
According to the law:
(2) The term "Presidential records" means documentary materials, or any reasonably segregable portion thereof, created or received by the President, the President's immediate staff, or a unit or individual of the Executive Office of the President whose function is to advise or assist the President, in the course of conducting activities which relate to or have an effect upon the carrying out of the constitutional, statutory, or other official or ceremonial duties of the President. Such term—
(A) includes any documentary materials relating to the political activities of the President or members of the President's staff, but only if such activities relate to or have a direct effect upon the carrying out of constitutional, statutory, or other official or ceremonial duties of the President; but
(B) does not include any documentary materials that are (i) official records of an agency (as defined in section 552(e) 1 of title 5, United States Code); (ii) personal records; (iii) stocks of publications and stationery; or (iv) extra copies of documents produced only for convenience of reference, when such copies are clearly so identified.
The law is what it is, not what you wish it were.