Trump cries when called out for attacking women

[Correll]

I pointed out the obvious fact that the lefty media is completely corrupt.

It is absurd at this point in time to claim otherwise.

I'm not sure why you think you get to set the bar on what constitutes proof of that fact.

Do you really believe that a group that tilts so heavily hard left can, or would even try to be objective on anything that even lightly touches upon the political?

Rhetorical question. THe answer is,

I guess you're just too retarded to even understand my challenge, no less respond to it. Oh well. That pretty much renders your nonsensical claim, that Obama's job approval rating is higher than Reagan's at this point because of a corrupt media, DOA.

Ouch! You just declared yourself the victor and patted yourself on the back about how much smarter you are then me.

No one has ever done that before!

Oh, wait, lefties do stupid shit like that all the time.


The media, as I demonstrated, totally dominated by the Hard Left, has given Obama nothing but good press, and passes since he hit the National Spot Light.

Well let's rehash....

You made a claim that Obama's JAR is higher than Reagan's due to a corrupt (read left-leaning) media.

I challenged you to prove it by showing more people are influenced by a left-lean media and you failed to demonstrate it.

Twice.

Instead of showing more people get their news from left-leaning sites, you showed that the media leans left.

Only that doesn't prove your claim.

By failing to prove your claim, there is no reason to believe it's rooted in reality.

Not to mention, the data you rely on spans 30 years. Not very relevant to today's media.

Reagan won a massive 49 state landslide DESPITE a completely hostile press, just based on his accomplishments.

That was at 3½ years earlier against a flawed opponent. At this point, Reagan's JAR dropped to 50%. Just under Obama's at this same point.

Finding the data you are claiming to want, sounds hard.

And I know that you will dismiss it anyway, even if it has been collected.

And at this point, only a dishonest partisan hack would try to pretend that the media is not a tool of the Hard Left.

So, can't be bothered.

I've got some TV viewing to catch up on, sooooooo

Whatever lefty.

Sadly, you reject the proof that your claim is not merely the hallucination you portray it as; in lieu of yet another strawman.

Who could have seen that coming?

Sorry.

Normally with lefties, I can suspend disbelief and pretend that they are rational humans that talking to is not a complete waste of time.

But when you denied that the media is biased, I just, can't do it with you right now.

Maybe one of the other conservatives will do it, maybe I'll feel it more tonight or tomorrow.

 

[playtime]

do you think he actually wears any of his cheap suits made in mexico & china while railing against mexico & china?

Irrelevant to anything I have said or any of the issues.


My point stands.


He is not a fraud.

He has a public persona that is a well designed tool.

That does not mean that he is not serious about his stated intentions or policies.

He stated polices on Trade and Immigration and Russia are almost exact matches for my positions on those issues.

AND those are the issues I care about the most.

hmmm.... so, you don't mind that he rails against 'jobs going to mexico & china' but sets up shop in mexico & china?

sounds mighty hypocritical.

so, you have a problem about illegals coming here & taking jobs away from americans?

....

He wants to deport illegals and bring back manufacturing jobs.

He is the only one.

IMO, that is exactly what America needs.

THe rest is unimportant.

he wants to bring back jobs, how about him STARTING WITH HIS OWN?

but instead, he manufactures clothing in foreign countries paying foreigners instead of bringing his own jobs back to America & paying American workers.

his company was found guilty of hiring illegals as well.

Image this scenario.


I am sitting in a bar, 2 years from now.

A poorly dressed man, drunk, starts telling me his tale of woe.


He had it all. He was a HUGE real estate guy, who owned a successful casino.

BUT, he got caught employing hundreds of illegals.

THe fines ruined him.

And he starts railing about how unfair and hypocritical it is that Trump should ruin him, just for breaking the law, and cheating Americans out of jobs, and higher wages, when Trump allegedly hired illegals or outsourced and this and that.

Lets say for argument's sake that the asshole criminal is right, that it is "unfair" and "hypocritical".


BUT that, in this scenario, the illegal labor force is dropping like a fucking rock, employers are being forced to raise wages to get Americans to take fill the jobs they need done, and thanks to tariffs, manufacturing employment is starting to rise.


In this scenario, which do you think would be more important to me?

Fairness for the asshole criminal, or the best interests of the American Working and Middle Classes?

LOL. Imagine facts instead of scenarios.

FACT: Trump rails against companies that left America to set up ops in foreign countries, but has ops in foreign countries.

FACT: Trump rails against illegals taking jobs away from Americans, but has had them work for him in the past.

FACT: Trump imports immigrants with visas instead of hiring Americans.

FACT: There will never be a big beautiful wall built because that would not only mean stealing land from their owners, the cost of building & maintaining it would be astronomical; & Mexico ain't gonna pay for it.

FACT: (for the sake of argument) Even if a wall was built... drug lords can literally dig tunnels miles long under the ground & into the boundaries of the US, the same will be done for illegals.

 

[Faun]

You're so delusional, it's quite amusing.

ooooohh, Brian Fallon?! Well, that settle that, I guess.

Jeez, and just because his policies would have been so good for the Working Class and Middle Class...

What was I thinking?

I don't even know who the fuck Brian Fallon is. I posted his quote because I agree with his sentiment.

The idea that deporting illegals will reduce the supply of labor and thus raise price ie wages, is not a lie.

The idea that our "Free Trade" polices such and need to be renegotiated in order to bring back manufacturing jobs is not a lie.

Too fucking retarded and nothing to do with what I posted. Can ya stay focused?

And it flies in the face that we are already deporting record numbers of illegals.

His quote, that you posted, stated that Trump's campaign was based on lies.

I understand that you didn't really read his quote. YOu saw negativity about TRump and that was the end of your thinking on the quote.

Thus, my comment about the central themes of Trump's campaign being TRUE was completely focused on your post. It is kind of retarded that you couldn't make that connection on your own.


And deporting "record numbers" is irrelevant is the population of illegals is ELEVEN FUCKING MILLION.

It remains the same bullshit it was when you first posted it. We already have record deportations. Not irrelevant to the discussion of illegal aliens simply because you wish it to be. We have about as many illegal aliens in this country as we did when Obama became president, which is a decline when factoring in population growth. So here comes another challenge you will run from like you did the last time... prove that contributed to wage increases...

 

[Faun]

I guess you're just too retarded to even understand my challenge, no less respond to it. Oh well. That pretty much renders your nonsensical claim, that Obama's job approval rating is higher than Reagan's at this point because of a corrupt media, DOA.

Ouch! You just declared yourself the victor and patted yourself on the back about how much smarter you are then me.

No one has ever done that before!

Oh, wait, lefties do stupid shit like that all the time.


The media, as I demonstrated, totally dominated by the Hard Left, has given Obama nothing but good press, and passes since he hit the National Spot Light.

Well let's rehash....

You made a claim that Obama's JAR is higher than Reagan's due to a corrupt (read left-leaning) media.

I challenged you to prove it by showing more people are influenced by a left-lean media and you failed to demonstrate it.

Twice.

Instead of showing more people get their news from left-leaning sites, you showed that the media leans left.

Only that doesn't prove your claim.

By failing to prove your claim, there is no reason to believe it's rooted in reality.

Not to mention, the data you rely on spans 30 years. Not very relevant to today's media.

Reagan won a massive 49 state landslide DESPITE a completely hostile press, just based on his accomplishments.

That was at 3½ years earlier against a flawed opponent. At this point, Reagan's JAR dropped to 50%. Just under Obama's at this same point.

Finding the data you are claiming to want, sounds hard.

And I know that you will dismiss it anyway, even if it has been collected.

And at this point, only a dishonest partisan hack would try to pretend that the media is not a tool of the Hard Left.

So, can't be bothered.

I've got some TV viewing to catch up on, sooooooo

Whatever lefty.

Sadly, you reject the proof that your claim is not merely the hallucination you portray it as; in lieu of yet another strawman.

Who could have seen that coming?

Sorry.

Normally with lefties, I can suspend disbelief and pretend that they are rational humans that talking to is not a complete waste of time.

But when you denied that the media is biased, I just, can't do it with you right now.

Maybe one of the other conservatives will do it, maybe I'll feel it more tonight or tomorrow.

Sadly, you're just fucking deranged.

Quote me saying the media isn't biased...

 

[Correll]

Irrelevant to anything I have said or any of the issues.


My point stands.


He is not a fraud.

He has a public persona that is a well designed tool.

That does not mean that he is not serious about his stated intentions or policies.

He stated polices on Trade and Immigration and Russia are almost exact matches for my positions on those issues.

AND those are the issues I care about the most.

hmmm.... so, you don't mind that he rails against 'jobs going to mexico & china' but sets up shop in mexico & china?

sounds mighty hypocritical.

so, you have a problem about illegals coming here & taking jobs away from americans?

....

He wants to deport illegals and bring back manufacturing jobs.

He is the only one.

IMO, that is exactly what America needs.

THe rest is unimportant.

he wants to bring back jobs, how about him STARTING WITH HIS OWN?

but instead, he manufactures clothing in foreign countries paying foreigners instead of bringing his own jobs back to America & paying American workers.

his company was found guilty of hiring illegals as well.

Image this scenario.


I am sitting in a bar, 2 years from now.

A poorly dressed man, drunk, starts telling me his tale of woe.


He had it all. He was a HUGE real estate guy, who owned a successful casino.

BUT, he got caught employing hundreds of illegals.

THe fines ruined him.

And he starts railing about how unfair and hypocritical it is that Trump should ruin him, just for breaking the law, and cheating Americans out of jobs, and higher wages, when Trump allegedly hired illegals or outsourced and this and that.

Lets say for argument's sake that the asshole criminal is right, that it is "unfair" and "hypocritical".


BUT that, in this scenario, the illegal labor force is dropping like a fucking rock, employers are being forced to raise wages to get Americans to take fill the jobs they need done, and thanks to tariffs, manufacturing employment is starting to rise.


In this scenario, which do you think would be more important to me?

Fairness for the asshole criminal, or the best interests of the American Working and Middle Classes?

LOL. Imagine facts instead of scenarios.

FACT: Trump rails against companies that left America to set up ops in foreign countries, but has ops in foreign countries.

FACT: Trump rails against illegals taking jobs away from Americans, but has had them work for him in the past.

FACT: Trump imports immigrants with visas instead of hiring Americans.

FACT: There will never be a big beautiful wall built because that would not only mean stealing land from their owners, the cost of building & maintaining it would be astronomical; & Mexico ain't gonna pay for it.

FACT: (for the sake of argument) Even if a wall was built... drug lords can literally dig tunnels miles long under the ground & into the boundaries of the US, the same will be done for illegals.

My post was in RESPONSE TO your previous post on those points.

Please address that.

 

[Correll]

ooooohh, Brian Fallon?! Well, that settle that, I guess.

Jeez, and just because his policies would have been so good for the Working Class and Middle Class...

What was I thinking?

I don't even know who the fuck Brian Fallon is. I posted his quote because I agree with his sentiment.

The idea that deporting illegals will reduce the supply of labor and thus raise price ie wages, is not a lie.

The idea that our "Free Trade" polices such and need to be renegotiated in order to bring back manufacturing jobs is not a lie.

Too fucking retarded and nothing to do with what I posted. Can ya stay focused?

And it flies in the face that we are already deporting record numbers of illegals.

His quote, that you posted, stated that Trump's campaign was based on lies.

I understand that you didn't really read his quote. YOu saw negativity about TRump and that was the end of your thinking on the quote.

Thus, my comment about the central themes of Trump's campaign being TRUE was completely focused on your post. It is kind of retarded that you couldn't make that connection on your own.


And deporting "record numbers" is irrelevant is the population of illegals is ELEVEN FUCKING MILLION.

It remains the same bullshit it was when you first posted it. We already have record deportations. Not irrelevant to the discussion of illegal aliens simply because you wish it to be. We have about as many illegal aliens in this country as we did when Obama became president, which is a decline when factoring in population growth. So here comes another challenge you will run from like you did the last time... prove that contributed to wage increases...

The metric to measure the problem is not number of deportations, but the size of the illegal population.

11 million is a disaster.

What ever we are doing, it is obviously completely insufficient.



??? You think that the tiny "relative" drop in Illegal population, MAYBE, must either show an increase in wages OR the Law of Supply and Demand have been debunked?

YOu are being silly again.

 

[Correll]

Ouch! You just declared yourself the victor and patted yourself on the back about how much smarter you are then me.

No one has ever done that before!

Oh, wait, lefties do stupid shit like that all the time.


The media, as I demonstrated, totally dominated by the Hard Left, has given Obama nothing but good press, and passes since he hit the National Spot Light.

Well let's rehash....

You made a claim that Obama's JAR is higher than Reagan's due to a corrupt (read left-leaning) media.

I challenged you to prove it by showing more people are influenced by a left-lean media and you failed to demonstrate it.

Twice.

Instead of showing more people get their news from left-leaning sites, you showed that the media leans left.

Only that doesn't prove your claim.

By failing to prove your claim, there is no reason to believe it's rooted in reality.

Not to mention, the data you rely on spans 30 years. Not very relevant to today's media.

Reagan won a massive 49 state landslide DESPITE a completely hostile press, just based on his accomplishments.

That was at 3½ years earlier against a flawed opponent. At this point, Reagan's JAR dropped to 50%. Just under Obama's at this same point.

Finding the data you are claiming to want, sounds hard.

And I know that you will dismiss it anyway, even if it has been collected.

And at this point, only a dishonest partisan hack would try to pretend that the media is not a tool of the Hard Left.

So, can't be bothered.

I've got some TV viewing to catch up on, sooooooo

Whatever lefty.

Sadly, you reject the proof that your claim is not merely the hallucination you portray it as; in lieu of yet another strawman.

Who could have seen that coming?

Sorry.

Normally with lefties, I can suspend disbelief and pretend that they are rational humans that talking to is not a complete waste of time.

But when you denied that the media is biased, I just, can't do it with you right now.

Maybe one of the other conservatives will do it, maybe I'll feel it more tonight or tomorrow.

Sadly, you're just fucking deranged.

Quote me saying the media isn't biased...

I've stated that the media is biased.

You have strongly attacked and ridiculed me for that position.

If you did not explicitly state that you were disagreeing with me (i can't be bothered to look) you certainly strongly implied it.


You seem to think the point of debate is to set up little gotchas, and that you score a point, when you successfully mislead someone as to what you meant.


IMO, that is fucking stupid, and the act of an asshole.


THe media is biased.

If you disagree, you're a delusional partisan hack.

If you don't then why the fuck are you making such a big deal about me stating the obvious?

 

[JakeStarkey]

Ok Pocahontas , Buckwheat Kunta Kinte LOL

bottom line though the only one formally accused of Rape is Donald Trump

Donnie will lose the female card if he continues attacking Bill. End of story.

If he loses the women's vote, Trump loses the election. End of story.

No one gives a shit when Trump criticizes Bill, sorry man

Well, some do. Millions of millennial women who don't know a thing about Bill the serial predator and Hillary will be turned off when they learn the facts.

The millennials already know that Bill is not running while the scumbag Donnie is running.

HRC continues to have an overwhelming lead in the women's vote and doosh arguments such as those above mean nothing. End of story. HRC wins the election if she dominates the female vote.

And millennials lean Democrat.

More libertarian than liberal: socially liberal and economically conservative, but with a strong passion for government assistance for those who need it.

They are not a fertile field for Trump recruiters.

 

[JakeStarkey]

bripate whines, "What they don't know is that Bill is a vicious sexual predator and that Hillary was in charge of threatening and intimidating his victims into keeping quiet about it. Hillary's popularity with women continues to evaporate."

Prove they don't know it. Be specific.

Bill is popular and has always been popular through times tough and not so tough.

Women like Bill far more than Trump.

They like HRC far more than Trump.

That spells disaster for Trump.

 

[JakeStarkey]

bripate whines, "Nobody cares about Trump university, douche bag."

Apparently you are wrong. Watch the news and follow the story online. This hurts Trump badly.

 

[JakeStarkey]

And after the Board reads Correll and bripat's silliness it

 

[playtime]

hmmm.... so, you don't mind that he rails against 'jobs going to mexico & china' but sets up shop in mexico & china?

sounds mighty hypocritical.

so, you have a problem about illegals coming here & taking jobs away from americans?

....

He wants to deport illegals and bring back manufacturing jobs.

He is the only one.

IMO, that is exactly what America needs.

THe rest is unimportant.

he wants to bring back jobs, how about him STARTING WITH HIS OWN?

but instead, he manufactures clothing in foreign countries paying foreigners instead of bringing his own jobs back to America & paying American workers.

his company was found guilty of hiring illegals as well.

Image this scenario.


I am sitting in a bar, 2 years from now.

A poorly dressed man, drunk, starts telling me his tale of woe.


He had it all. He was a HUGE real estate guy, who owned a successful casino.

BUT, he got caught employing hundreds of illegals.

THe fines ruined him.

And he starts railing about how unfair and hypocritical it is that Trump should ruin him, just for breaking the law, and cheating Americans out of jobs, and higher wages, when Trump allegedly hired illegals or outsourced and this and that.

Lets say for argument's sake that the asshole criminal is right, that it is "unfair" and "hypocritical".


BUT that, in this scenario, the illegal labor force is dropping like a fucking rock, employers are being forced to raise wages to get Americans to take fill the jobs they need done, and thanks to tariffs, manufacturing employment is starting to rise.


In this scenario, which do you think would be more important to me?

Fairness for the asshole criminal, or the best interests of the American Working and Middle Classes?

LOL. Imagine facts instead of scenarios.

FACT: Trump rails against companies that left America to set up ops in foreign countries, but has ops in foreign countries.

FACT: Trump rails against illegals taking jobs away from Americans, but has had them work for him in the past.

FACT: Trump imports immigrants with visas instead of hiring Americans.

FACT: There will never be a big beautiful wall built because that would not only mean stealing land from their owners, the cost of building & maintaining it would be astronomical; & Mexico ain't gonna pay for it.

FACT: (for the sake of argument) Even if a wall was built... drug lords can literally dig tunnels miles long under the ground & into the boundaries of the US, the same will be done for illegals.

My post was in RESPONSE TO your previous post on those points.

Please address that.

you can't read English? I've been addressing you from the get go. you fail to see you are being duped in every way possible.

 

[playtime]

I don't even know who the fuck Brian Fallon is. I posted his quote because I agree with his sentiment.

The idea that deporting illegals will reduce the supply of labor and thus raise price ie wages, is not a lie.

The idea that our "Free Trade" polices such and need to be renegotiated in order to bring back manufacturing jobs is not a lie.

Too fucking retarded and nothing to do with what I posted. Can ya stay focused?

And it flies in the face that we are already deporting record numbers of illegals.

His quote, that you posted, stated that Trump's campaign was based on lies.

I understand that you didn't really read his quote. YOu saw negativity about TRump and that was the end of your thinking on the quote.

Thus, my comment about the central themes of Trump's campaign being TRUE was completely focused on your post. It is kind of retarded that you couldn't make that connection on your own.


And deporting "record numbers" is irrelevant is the population of illegals is ELEVEN FUCKING MILLION.

It remains the same bullshit it was when you first posted it. We already have record deportations. Not irrelevant to the discussion of illegal aliens simply because you wish it to be. We have about as many illegal aliens in this country as we did when Obama became president, which is a decline when factoring in population growth. So here comes another challenge you will run from like you did the last time... prove that contributed to wage increases...

The metric to measure the problem is not number of deportations, but the size of the illegal population.

11 million is a disaster.

What ever we are doing, it is obviously completely insufficient.



??? You think that the tiny "relative" drop in Illegal population, MAYBE, must either show an increase in wages OR the Law of Supply and Demand have been debunked?

YOu are being silly again.

you think we will become a gestapo & go into peoples homes to round 'em up, hombre?

 

[JakeStarkey]

Yurt, respectfully, is, yes (I dare say it), a dupe.

The illegals make up about 3.5% of which maybe half work, so we are talking about 1.7% of our population pulling our civilization into the dregs of hell if they are not zombied out of here.

 

[Correll]

bripate whines, "What they don't know is that Bill is a vicious sexual predator and that Hillary was in charge of threatening and intimidating his victims into keeping quiet about it. Hillary's popularity with women continues to evaporate."

Prove they don't know it. Be specific.

Bill is popular and has always been popular through times tough and not so tough.

Women like Bill far more than Trump.

They like HRC far more than Trump.

That spells disaster for Trump.

The polls are showing movement in the opposite direction.

 

[Correll]

The idea that deporting illegals will reduce the supply of labor and thus raise price ie wages, is not a lie.

The idea that our "Free Trade" polices such and need to be renegotiated in order to bring back manufacturing jobs is not a lie.

Too fucking retarded and nothing to do with what I posted. Can ya stay focused?

And it flies in the face that we are already deporting record numbers of illegals.

His quote, that you posted, stated that Trump's campaign was based on lies.

I understand that you didn't really read his quote. YOu saw negativity about TRump and that was the end of your thinking on the quote.

Thus, my comment about the central themes of Trump's campaign being TRUE was completely focused on your post. It is kind of retarded that you couldn't make that connection on your own.


And deporting "record numbers" is irrelevant is the population of illegals is ELEVEN FUCKING MILLION.

It remains the same bullshit it was when you first posted it. We already have record deportations. Not irrelevant to the discussion of illegal aliens simply because you wish it to be. We have about as many illegal aliens in this country as we did when Obama became president, which is a decline when factoring in population growth. So here comes another challenge you will run from like you did the last time... prove that contributed to wage increases...

The metric to measure the problem is not number of deportations, but the size of the illegal population.

11 million is a disaster.

What ever we are doing, it is obviously completely insufficient.



??? You think that the tiny "relative" drop in Illegal population, MAYBE, must either show an increase in wages OR the Law of Supply and Demand have been debunked?

YOu are being silly again.

you think we will become a gestapo & go into peoples homes to round 'em up, hombre?

"Gestapo"?

Tell me again how Trump is a demagogue who appeals to fear and emotion.

 

[bripat9643]

Yurt, respectfully, is, yes (I dare say it), a dupe.

The illegals make up about 3.5% of which maybe half work, so we are talking about 1.7% of our population pulling our civilization into the dregs of hell if they are not zombied out of here.

There are probably 50 million illegals in this country, so they make up more like 15%.

 

[playtime]

trump can make his fucking clothing here with American workers. he can start with THAT, but chooses not to. that really is a plain & simple CONcept to understand.

 

[playtime]

Too fucking retarded and nothing to do with what I posted. Can ya stay focused?

And it flies in the face that we are already deporting record numbers of illegals.

His quote, that you posted, stated that Trump's campaign was based on lies.

I understand that you didn't really read his quote. YOu saw negativity about TRump and that was the end of your thinking on the quote.

Thus, my comment about the central themes of Trump's campaign being TRUE was completely focused on your post. It is kind of retarded that you couldn't make that connection on your own.


And deporting "record numbers" is irrelevant is the population of illegals is ELEVEN FUCKING MILLION.

It remains the same bullshit it was when you first posted it. We already have record deportations. Not irrelevant to the discussion of illegal aliens simply because you wish it to be. We have about as many illegal aliens in this country as we did when Obama became president, which is a decline when factoring in population growth. So here comes another challenge you will run from like you did the last time... prove that contributed to wage increases...

The metric to measure the problem is not number of deportations, but the size of the illegal population.

11 million is a disaster.

What ever we are doing, it is obviously completely insufficient.



??? You think that the tiny "relative" drop in Illegal population, MAYBE, must either show an increase in wages OR the Law of Supply and Demand have been debunked?

YOu are being silly again.

you think we will become a gestapo & go into peoples homes to round 'em up, hombre?

"Gestapo"?

Tell me again how Trump is a demagogue who appeals to fear and emotion.

i'm not saying that's his plan. what IS his plan btw.............. do you KNOW? lol, i'm betting not.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Yurt, respectfully, is, yes (I dare say it), a dupe.

The illegals make up about 3.5% of which maybe half work, so we are talking about 1.7% of our population pulling our civilization into the dregs of hell if they are not zombied out of here.

There are probably 50 million illegals in this country, so they make up more like 15%.

You are an incredulous stooge. You must be an anarchist.