Trump had "nothing to do with Russia"

[jc456]

making fun of the gays now? ouch, how insensitive you are. again facts back my side bubba joe.

No just you, where are the facts of this DEEP STATE, shadow government there gomer!

have you been living under a rock? hahahahahahaaha,

No sir you have taken up permanent residency there, DEEP STATE! Just can't get enough!

facts are facts, you don't have to like it.

You have no facts, just bluster, conjecture and bullshit. Much like Bone Spur!

sure I do, did obummer loosen the law on handling of wiretaps? hmmmmmmm? tell me that isn't true.

fk dude that is a grand fking slam.. Nice pitch.

 

[Aldo Raine]

No just you, where are the facts of this DEEP STATE, shadow government there gomer!

have you been living under a rock? hahahahahahaaha,

No sir you have taken up permanent residency there, DEEP STATE! Just can't get enough!

facts are facts, you don't have to like it.

You have no facts, just bluster, conjecture and bullshit. Much like Bone Spur!

sure I do, did obummer loosen the law on handling of wiretaps? hmmmmmmm? tell me that isn't true.

fk dude that is a grand fking slam.. Nice pitch.

What the fuck does Obama have to xo with possible Trump/Russia collusion you goofy fellow? Oh thats right DEEP STATE! Another angel gets it's wings. My god you people are delusional.

Why are you/he so afraid of this investigation? Innocent people do NOT act like this, it just doesn't seem right.

 

[Valerie]

DEEP STATE! Another angel gets it's wings.

 

[jc456]

have you been living under a rock? hahahahahahaaha,

No sir you have taken up permanent residency there, DEEP STATE! Just can't get enough!

facts are facts, you don't have to like it.

You have no facts, just bluster, conjecture and bullshit. Much like Bone Spur!

sure I do, did obummer loosen the law on handling of wiretaps? hmmmmmmm? tell me that isn't true.

fk dude that is a grand fking slam.. Nice pitch.

What the fuck does Obama have to xo with possible Trump/Russia collusion you goofy fellow? Oh thats right DEEP STATE! Another angel gets it's wings. My god you people are delusional.

Why are you/he so afraid of this investigation? Innocent people do NOT act like this, it just doesn't seem right.

who said I'm afraid of anything, or trump? you have the wrong folks to make that statement to. why are you against investigating hitlery? or Schultz or anyone on the left? seems it is you that defers investigations. fifteen months and zip on trump. mindless efforts and wasted money. but me afraid? not at all. bring on that mother fker mueller, let's get his information public and see what he's got. seems he's afraid.

oh and obummer was one of the most effective deep staters as I just indicated with russia. thanks again for the pitch to hit for a grand slam.

 

[Aldo Raine]

No sir you have taken up permanent residency there, DEEP STATE! Just can't get enough!

facts are facts, you don't have to like it.

You have no facts, just bluster, conjecture and bullshit. Much like Bone Spur!

sure I do, did obummer loosen the law on handling of wiretaps? hmmmmmmm? tell me that isn't true.

fk dude that is a grand fking slam.. Nice pitch.

What the fuck does Obama have to xo with possible Trump/Russia collusion you goofy fellow? Oh thats right DEEP STATE! Another angel gets it's wings. My god you people are delusional.

Why are you/he so afraid of this investigation? Innocent people do NOT act like this, it just doesn't seem right.

who said I'm afraid of anything, or trump? you have the wrong folks to make that statement to. why are you against investigating hitlery? or Schultz or anyone on the left? seems it is you that defers investigations. fifteen months and zip on trump. mindless efforts and wasted money. but me afraid? not at all. bring on that mother fker mueller, let's get his information public and see what he's got. seems he's afraid.

I am 100% not against investigating any of them. If guilty of crimes please prosecute them. As for Mueller, no one releases what they have found before they go in front of judge and jury. JFC you know this, give it the due process, we will all find out when the investigation is concluded.

 

[jc456]

facts are facts, you don't have to like it.

You have no facts, just bluster, conjecture and bullshit. Much like Bone Spur!

sure I do, did obummer loosen the law on handling of wiretaps? hmmmmmmm? tell me that isn't true.

fk dude that is a grand fking slam.. Nice pitch.

What the fuck does Obama have to xo with possible Trump/Russia collusion you goofy fellow? Oh thats right DEEP STATE! Another angel gets it's wings. My god you people are delusional.

Why are you/he so afraid of this investigation? Innocent people do NOT act like this, it just doesn't seem right.

who said I'm afraid of anything, or trump? you have the wrong folks to make that statement to. why are you against investigating hitlery? or Schultz or anyone on the left? seems it is you that defers investigations. fifteen months and zip on trump. mindless efforts and wasted money. but me afraid? not at all. bring on that mother fker mueller, let's get his information public and see what he's got. seems he's afraid.

I am 100% not against investigating any of them. If guilty of crimes please prosecute them. As for Mueller, no one releases what they have found before they go in front of judge and jury. JFC you know this, give it the due process, we will all find out when the investigation is concluded.

well usually one has a crime before putting together a grand jury. you got that yet?

 

[Valerie]

ya think??

 

[Aldo Raine]

You have no facts, just bluster, conjecture and bullshit. Much like Bone Spur!

sure I do, did obummer loosen the law on handling of wiretaps? hmmmmmmm? tell me that isn't true.

fk dude that is a grand fking slam.. Nice pitch.

What the fuck does Obama have to xo with possible Trump/Russia collusion you goofy fellow? Oh thats right DEEP STATE! Another angel gets it's wings. My god you people are delusional.

Why are you/he so afraid of this investigation? Innocent people do NOT act like this, it just doesn't seem right.

who said I'm afraid of anything, or trump? you have the wrong folks to make that statement to. why are you against investigating hitlery? or Schultz or anyone on the left? seems it is you that defers investigations. fifteen months and zip on trump. mindless efforts and wasted money. but me afraid? not at all. bring on that mother fker mueller, let's get his information public and see what he's got. seems he's afraid.

I am 100% not against investigating any of them. If guilty of crimes please prosecute them. As for Mueller, no one releases what they have found before they go in front of judge and jury. JFC you know this, give it the due process, we will all find out when the investigation is concluded.

well usually one has a crime before putting together a grand jury. you got that yet?

I missed the grand jury against Clinton and the rest. Do you not think Trump and his lawyers will not be prevvie to that info?

 

[Valerie]

We already knew this investigation was no “hoax” and was anything but “fake” when Robert S. Mueller III assembled an all-star cast of 16 lawyers. That’s indicative of a major, serious investigation. It bears repeating that no one as yet has been indicted, let alone convicted, of anything, and everyone, including the president, enjoys a presumption of innocence. However, in some practical and political ways the grand jury is a key milestone.

For one thing, when the grand jury starts taking testimony under oath from witnesses, we’ll have a good sense of where this is going. If the witnesses are largely or entirely people involved in Trump team members’ representations about their meetings with Russians, the decision to fire James B. Comey and the actions taken thereafter, we’ll know the emphasis is on possible obstruction of justice, lying to the FBI, lying or giving incomplete information to Congress, witness intimidation, etc. (In this regard, using a grand jury in Washington might also be seen as a step a prosecutor would take to prepare for indictments in the jurisdiction in which the alleged crimes were committed.)

Second, while prosecutors and court personnel cannot discuss the grand jury testimony, witnesses are free to do so absent a gag order. Expect a flood of leaks from those “with knowledge of the testimony.” These will likely come from witnesses/potential defendants and/or their attorneys, who will immediately claim the leaks came from the prosecutor and hence are illegal. (This is Defense Lawyering 101.) The press will need to decide if and when this arises how to avoid being used in such fashion while providing the public with as much information as readily available. (“Sources close to the witnesses” or some such designation would seem to be the fairest approach.) However the leaks are spun, we’ll almost certainly hear a lot about what went on inside the grand jury room.

Third, for most witnesses, testifying before the grand jury is terrifying. Under normal rules (more about that in a moment) you cannot bring in your lawyer. A misstatement under oath may have dire consequences. This makes testifying in front of Congress look like a coffee klatch at Starbucks.

Fourth, if Mueller is investigating the president’s role, if any, in obstruction or other similar crimes, in all likelihood he would need to obtain Trump’s testimony. We have precedent from the Monica Lewinsky matter for a president to testify to a grand jury. In the case of President Bill Clinton, he was allowed to testify via closed-circuit TV. Trump would be obliged to appear although he might be able to work out the same arrangement that Clinton did whereby he was allowed to have his attorney present and take breaks to consult. (“Normally, grand jury witnesses, while not allowed to have attorneys in the grand jury room with them, can stop and consult with their attorneys. Under our arrangement today, your attorneys are here and present for consultation and you can break to consult with them as necessary,” the prosecutor conducting the questioning told Clinton in 1998.)

Trump would have the right to take the Fifth, but that would be an extraordinary event without historical precedent. And of course Trump’s previous declarations that people do not take the Fifth unless they have something to hide would come back to haunt him. (“The mob takes the Fifth Amendment,” Trump said during the campaign. “If you’re innocent, why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?”) That would have substantial political ramifications, to put it mildly.

Trump’s testimony, if he chose not to invoke the Fifth, would be his attorneys’ worst nightmare. Imagine trying to keep him from inadvertently giving prosecutors all the ammunition they would need. (Think about the Lester Holt interview when he freely admitted he had Russia on his mind when he fired Comey.)

If you are banking on Mueller indicting a sitting president you’re probably going to be disappointed regardless of where the facts lead. Mueller would be bound by the existing Justice Department opinion that a president cannot be indicted. (That leaves open options including naming him as an “unindicted co-conspirator” — to obstruct justice , for example — if there are other conspirators who could be prosecuted.)

All of that is down the road and will be determined by the evidence the special prosecutor’s team uncovers. However, with the grand jury plugging away, multiple witnesses including those who have an incentive to make deals with the prosecutor for testimony, the possibility of exceptionally serious consequences for the president have increased. Moreover, with clear warnings from Republicans against firing Mueller, Trump’s fate to a very large degree rests with Mueller. No wonder he is trying to smear and discredit him.

Is Mueller’s grand jury a big deal?

 

[jc456]

sure I do, did obummer loosen the law on handling of wiretaps? hmmmmmmm? tell me that isn't true.

fk dude that is a grand fking slam.. Nice pitch.

What the fuck does Obama have to xo with possible Trump/Russia collusion you goofy fellow? Oh thats right DEEP STATE! Another angel gets it's wings. My god you people are delusional.

Why are you/he so afraid of this investigation? Innocent people do NOT act like this, it just doesn't seem right.

who said I'm afraid of anything, or trump? you have the wrong folks to make that statement to. why are you against investigating hitlery? or Schultz or anyone on the left? seems it is you that defers investigations. fifteen months and zip on trump. mindless efforts and wasted money. but me afraid? not at all. bring on that mother fker mueller, let's get his information public and see what he's got. seems he's afraid.

I am 100% not against investigating any of them. If guilty of crimes please prosecute them. As for Mueller, no one releases what they have found before they go in front of judge and jury. JFC you know this, give it the due process, we will all find out when the investigation is concluded.

well usually one has a crime before putting together a grand jury. you got that yet?

I missed the grand jury against Clinton and the rest. Do you not think Trump and his lawyers will not be prevvie to that info?

yeah everyone has, the FBI said she was guilty. One can only assume the FBI and clinton were in on a coverup. it's quite obvious to most americans. you must have missed that speech by Comey.

 

[jc456]

We already knew this investigation was no “hoax” and was anything but “fake” when Robert S. Mueller III assembled an all-star cast of 16 lawyers. That’s indicative of a major, serious investigation. It bears repeating that no one as yet has been indicted, let alone convicted, of anything, and everyone, including the president, enjoys a presumption of innocence. However, in some practical and political ways the grand jury is a key milestone.

For one thing, when the grand jury starts taking testimony under oath from witnesses, we’ll have a good sense of where this is going. If the witnesses are largely or entirely people involved in Trump team members’ representations about their meetings with Russians, the decision to fire James B. Comey and the actions taken thereafter, we’ll know the emphasis is on possible obstruction of justice, lying to the FBI, lying or giving incomplete information to Congress, witness intimidation, etc. (In this regard, using a grand jury in Washington might also be seen as a step a prosecutor would take to prepare for indictments in the jurisdiction in which the alleged crimes were committed.)

Second, while prosecutors and court personnel cannot discuss the grand jury testimony, witnesses are free to do so absent a gag order. Expect a flood of leaks from those “with knowledge of the testimony.” These will likely come from witnesses/potential defendants and/or their attorneys, who will immediately claim the leaks came from the prosecutor and hence are illegal. (This is Defense Lawyering 101.) The press will need to decide if and when this arises how to avoid being used in such fashion while providing the public with as much information as readily available. (“Sources close to the witnesses” or some such designation would seem to be the fairest approach.) However the leaks are spun, we’ll almost certainly hear a lot about what went on inside the grand jury room.

Third, for most witnesses, testifying before the grand jury is terrifying. Under normal rules (more about that in a moment) you cannot bring in your lawyer. A misstatement under oath may have dire consequences. This makes testifying in front of Congress look like a coffee klatch at Starbucks.

Fourth, if Mueller is investigating the president’s role, if any, in obstruction or other similar crimes, in all likelihood he would need to obtain Trump’s testimony. We have precedent from the Monica Lewinsky matter for a president to testify to a grand jury. In the case of President Bill Clinton, he was allowed to testify via closed-circuit TV. Trump would be obliged to appear although he might be able to work out the same arrangement that Clinton did whereby he was allowed to have his attorney present and take breaks to consult. (“Normally, grand jury witnesses, while not allowed to have attorneys in the grand jury room with them, can stop and consult with their attorneys. Under our arrangement today, your attorneys are here and present for consultation and you can break to consult with them as necessary,” the prosecutor conducting the questioning told Clinton in 1998.)

Trump would have the right to take the Fifth, but that would be an extraordinary event without historical precedent. And of course Trump’s previous declarations that people do not take the Fifth unless they have something to hide would come back to haunt him. (“The mob takes the Fifth Amendment,” Trump said during the campaign. “If you’re innocent, why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?”) That would have substantial political ramifications, to put it mildly.

Trump’s testimony, if he chose not to invoke the Fifth, would be his attorneys’ worst nightmare. Imagine trying to keep him from inadvertently giving prosecutors all the ammunition they would need. (Think about the Lester Holt interview when he freely admitted he had Russia on his mind when he fired Comey.)

If you are banking on Mueller indicting a sitting president you’re probably going to be disappointed regardless of where the facts lead. Mueller would be bound by the existing Justice Department opinion that a president cannot be indicted. (That leaves open options including naming him as an “unindicted co-conspirator” — to obstruct justice , for example — if there are other conspirators who could be prosecuted.)

All of that is down the road and will be determined by the evidence the special prosecutor’s team uncovers. However, with the grand jury plugging away, multiple witnesses including those who have an incentive to make deals with the prosecutor for testimony, the possibility of exceptionally serious consequences for the president have increased. Moreover, with clear warnings from Republicans against firing Mueller, Trump’s fate to a very large degree rests with Mueller. No wonder he is trying to smear and discredit him.

Is Mueller’s grand jury a big deal?

what a big nothing burger. yep, so what's the point here exactly? we already know he has nothing. a grand jury to hear testimony on what? why wouldn't he present his evidence?

 

[Aldo Raine]

What the fuck does Obama have to xo with possible Trump/Russia collusion you goofy fellow? Oh thats right DEEP STATE! Another angel gets it's wings. My god you people are delusional.

Why are you/he so afraid of this investigation? Innocent people do NOT act like this, it just doesn't seem right.

who said I'm afraid of anything, or trump? you have the wrong folks to make that statement to. why are you against investigating hitlery? or Schultz or anyone on the left? seems it is you that defers investigations. fifteen months and zip on trump. mindless efforts and wasted money. but me afraid? not at all. bring on that mother fker mueller, let's get his information public and see what he's got. seems he's afraid.

I am 100% not against investigating any of them. If guilty of crimes please prosecute them. As for Mueller, no one releases what they have found before they go in front of judge and jury. JFC you know this, give it the due process, we will all find out when the investigation is concluded.

well usually one has a crime before putting together a grand jury. you got that yet?

I missed the grand jury against Clinton and the rest. Do you not think Trump and his lawyers will not be prevvie to that info?

yeah everyone has, the FBI said she was guilty. One can only assume the FBI and clinton were in on a coverup. it's quite obvious to most americans. you must have missed that speech by Comey.

So you are telling me that right now Comey is stopping anyone from going after Clinton TODAY, or in the future? That is very interesting, oh ya DEEP STATE!

 

[jc456]

who said I'm afraid of anything, or trump? you have the wrong folks to make that statement to. why are you against investigating hitlery? or Schultz or anyone on the left? seems it is you that defers investigations. fifteen months and zip on trump. mindless efforts and wasted money. but me afraid? not at all. bring on that mother fker mueller, let's get his information public and see what he's got. seems he's afraid.

I am 100% not against investigating any of them. If guilty of crimes please prosecute them. As for Mueller, no one releases what they have found before they go in front of judge and jury. JFC you know this, give it the due process, we will all find out when the investigation is concluded.

well usually one has a crime before putting together a grand jury. you got that yet?

I missed the grand jury against Clinton and the rest. Do you not think Trump and his lawyers will not be prevvie to that info?

yeah everyone has, the FBI said she was guilty. One can only assume the FBI and clinton were in on a coverup. it's quite obvious to most americans. you must have missed that speech by Comey.

So you are telling me that right now Comey is stopping anyone from going after Clinton TODAY, or in the future? That is very interesting, oh ya DEEP STATE!

nope, it's happening. the clinton investigation is back active. thanks for asking.

 

[jc456]

who said I'm afraid of anything, or trump? you have the wrong folks to make that statement to. why are you against investigating hitlery? or Schultz or anyone on the left? seems it is you that defers investigations. fifteen months and zip on trump. mindless efforts and wasted money. but me afraid? not at all. bring on that mother fker mueller, let's get his information public and see what he's got. seems he's afraid.

I am 100% not against investigating any of them. If guilty of crimes please prosecute them. As for Mueller, no one releases what they have found before they go in front of judge and jury. JFC you know this, give it the due process, we will all find out when the investigation is concluded.

well usually one has a crime before putting together a grand jury. you got that yet?

I missed the grand jury against Clinton and the rest. Do you not think Trump and his lawyers will not be prevvie to that info?

yeah everyone has, the FBI said she was guilty. One can only assume the FBI and clinton were in on a coverup. it's quite obvious to most americans. you must have missed that speech by Comey.

So you are telling me that right now Comey is stopping anyone from going after Clinton TODAY, or in the future? That is very interesting, oh ya DEEP STATE!

here

Deep state leaker has been arrested — Steemit

Reality Winner.

When will you get to some facts?

 

[Aldo Raine]

I am 100% not against investigating any of them. If guilty of crimes please prosecute them. As for Mueller, no one releases what they have found before they go in front of judge and jury. JFC you know this, give it the due process, we will all find out when the investigation is concluded.

well usually one has a crime before putting together a grand jury. you got that yet?

I missed the grand jury against Clinton and the rest. Do you not think Trump and his lawyers will not be prevvie to that info?

yeah everyone has, the FBI said she was guilty. One can only assume the FBI and clinton were in on a coverup. it's quite obvious to most americans. you must have missed that speech by Comey.

So you are telling me that right now Comey is stopping anyone from going after Clinton TODAY, or in the future? That is very interesting, oh ya DEEP STATE!

here

Deep state leaker has been arrested — Steemit

Reality Winner.

When will you get to some facts?

Electrowarrior,. OMFG, yup you got me! sorry may have to do a little better than that to get a grand jury! JFC what the f ck is wrong with you people?

 

[jc456]

well usually one has a crime before putting together a grand jury. you got that yet?

I missed the grand jury against Clinton and the rest. Do you not think Trump and his lawyers will not be prevvie to that info?

yeah everyone has, the FBI said she was guilty. One can only assume the FBI and clinton were in on a coverup. it's quite obvious to most americans. you must have missed that speech by Comey.

So you are telling me that right now Comey is stopping anyone from going after Clinton TODAY, or in the future? That is very interesting, oh ya DEEP STATE!

here

Deep state leaker has been arrested — Steemit

Reality Winner.

When will you get to some facts?

Electrowarrior,. OMFG, yup you got me! sorry may have to do a little better than that to get a grand jury! JFC what the f ck is wrong with you people?

so stupid fk, are you saying Reality Winner wasn't arrested? cereally, are you stating that?

 

[Aldo Raine]

I missed the grand jury against Clinton and the rest. Do you not think Trump and his lawyers will not be prevvie to that info?

yeah everyone has, the FBI said she was guilty. One can only assume the FBI and clinton were in on a coverup. it's quite obvious to most americans. you must have missed that speech by Comey.

So you are telling me that right now Comey is stopping anyone from going after Clinton TODAY, or in the future? That is very interesting, oh ya DEEP STATE!

here

Deep state leaker has been arrested — Steemit

Reality Winner.

When will you get to some facts?

Electrowarrior,. OMFG, yup you got me! sorry may have to do a little better than that to get a grand jury! JFC what the f ck is wrong with you people?

so stupid fk, are you saying Reality Winner wasn't arrested? cereally, are you stating that?

Cereal has nothing to do with it. And this twit is DEEP STATE, are you fucking kidding me. Electrowarrior to the rescue!

 

[jc456]

yeah everyone has, the FBI said she was guilty. One can only assume the FBI and clinton were in on a coverup. it's quite obvious to most americans. you must have missed that speech by Comey.

So you are telling me that right now Comey is stopping anyone from going after Clinton TODAY, or in the future? That is very interesting, oh ya DEEP STATE!

here

Deep state leaker has been arrested — Steemit

Reality Winner.

When will you get to some facts?

Electrowarrior,. OMFG, yup you got me! sorry may have to do a little better than that to get a grand jury! JFC what the f ck is wrong with you people?

so stupid fk, are you saying Reality Winner wasn't arrested? cereally, are you stating that?

Cereal has nothing to do with it. And this twit is DEEP STATE, are you fucking kidding me. Electrowarrior to the rescue!

was she arrested or not, can't you answer cause then you'll be admitting I'm right? hahahhaahahahahaaha

 

[Aldo Raine]

So you are telling me that right now Comey is stopping anyone from going after Clinton TODAY, or in the future? That is very interesting, oh ya DEEP STATE!

here

Deep state leaker has been arrested — Steemit

Reality Winner.

When will you get to some facts?

Electrowarrior,. OMFG, yup you got me! sorry may have to do a little better than that to get a grand jury! JFC what the f ck is wrong with you people?

so stupid fk, are you saying Reality Winner wasn't arrested? cereally, are you stating that?

Cereal has nothing to do with it. And this twit is DEEP STATE, are you fucking kidding me. Electrowarrior to the rescue!

was she arrested or not, can't you answer cause then you'll be admitting I'm right? hahahhaahahahahaaha

Arrested for leaking information that the Russians DID interfere with our elections! JFC this is the opposite of what you Trump boots want. It means Russia helped Trump you good!

 

[jc456]

here

Deep state leaker has been arrested — Steemit

Reality Winner.

When will you get to some facts?

Electrowarrior,. OMFG, yup you got me! sorry may have to do a little better than that to get a grand jury! JFC what the f ck is wrong with you people?

so stupid fk, are you saying Reality Winner wasn't arrested? cereally, are you stating that?

Cereal has nothing to do with it. And this twit is DEEP STATE, are you fucking kidding me. Electrowarrior to the rescue!

was she arrested or not, can't you answer cause then you'll be admitting I'm right? hahahhaahahahahaaha

Arrested for leaking information that the Russians DID interfere with our elections! JFC this is the opposite of what you Trump boots want. It means Russia helped Trump you good!

It did how is that exactly? what was illegal that she leaked. I'm waiting.

Cause fk, we don't need Mueller, right? he should be all about getting her testimony, he ain't. so what is illegal again?