Trump lost me, most insensitive ahole Covid remark

[Synthaholic]

Oh no, a leftist thinks I'm not really a libertarian. I'm going to cry now ...



Sorry, I tried ...

BTW, you also don't know how to capitalize. I said I am NOT a member of the Libertarian Party. I am just libertarian. I know you don't know what that means with your going to government schools and all

You’re not a libertarian. You’re a Trumper, through and through.

And you're a Biden Humper. Did you have anything but name calling? LOL, I crack myself up. Like you have anything but name calling ....

Interesting that you think Trumper is the same as name-calling. You must associate it with something bad. But you were a teabagger, too, so...

Nope. Biden is irrelevant. I would vote for a turnip over Trump.

How long did it take you to stop opening your mouth as wide as you could every time someone mentioned teabagging?

And this is how stupid you are. Your standard is that to support Trump means you love him and agree with him on every issue, but you don't even have to like him to vote for Biden. It's just more of your brainless drivel

I’m voting to remove Trump from office.

Incorrect, you are voting for the democrat as you are told too.

as always.

is your candidate that bad?

Yes. Syndi would vote for any Democrat. So saying she has a specific reason is obviously a lie. Good call out there

It's actually a tell, she knows that biden is in cognitive crisis so she has to hedge her bets on why she or any democrat is voting for the candidate of thier party, when the wheels come off the bus and biden forgets who or what he is and has to resign they can all pretend it was a protest vote.

I voted for Biden in the 1988 primary over Dukakis and the 2008 primary over Obama, but not the 2020 primary (Bernie). So I’m perfectly happy with Joe Biden as president.

So that’s another FAIL for you.

So you're confirming he was right then calling it a fail, Syndi? I hope you're hot, you're not making a living unless it's on your back

No, fake libertarian - the claim was that I’ll vote for Biden because I’ll vote for any democrat. It’s a FAIL because I’ve voted for Biden in the 1980s and the 2000s. And I’ll vote for him again in 2020. And I’ll vote for the Democratic nominee in 2020. Because Republicans are traitors and criminals.

Um ... so you seriously think that you voted for Democrats contradicts that you'd vote for any Democrat?



I didn't think anyone could be dumber then the wench on your avatar, but wow, you prove me wrong

I already said I will vote for any Democrat! Against a Republican that is. I will vote for some Democrats over other Democrats. I will even vote some independents over some Democrats. But I will never vote for a Republican over a Democrat. I will never vote for a libertarian, who’s just an embarrassed Republican, over a Democrat.

I hope you can finally make sense of this in your addled brain.

 

[pknopp]

Oh no, a leftist thinks I'm not really a libertarian. I'm going to cry now ...



Sorry, I tried ...

BTW, you also don't know how to capitalize. I said I am NOT a member of the Libertarian Party. I am just libertarian. I know you don't know what that means with your going to government schools and all

You’re not a libertarian. You’re a Trumper, through and through.

And you're a Biden Humper. Did you have anything but name calling? LOL, I crack myself up. Like you have anything but name calling ....

Interesting that you think Trumper is the same as name-calling. You must associate it with something bad. But you were a teabagger, too, so...

Nope. Biden is irrelevant. I would vote for a turnip over Trump.

How long did it take you to stop opening your mouth as wide as you could every time someone mentioned teabagging?

And this is how stupid you are. Your standard is that to support Trump means you love him and agree with him on every issue, but you don't even have to like him to vote for Biden. It's just more of your brainless drivel

I’m voting to remove Trump from office.

Incorrect, you are voting for the democrat as you are told too.

as always.

is your candidate that bad?

Yes. Syndi would vote for any Democrat. So saying she has a specific reason is obviously a lie. Good call out there

It's actually a tell, she knows that biden is in cognitive crisis so she has to hedge her bets on why she or any democrat is voting for the candidate of thier party, when the wheels come off the bus and biden forgets who or what he is and has to resign they can all pretend it was a protest vote.

I voted for Biden in the 1988 primary over Dukakis and the 2008 primary over Obama, but not the 2020 primary (Bernie). So I’m perfectly happy with Joe Biden as president.

So that’s another FAIL for you.

So you're confirming he was right then calling it a fail, Syndi? I hope you're hot, you're not making a living unless it's on your back

No, fake libertarian - the claim was that I’ll vote for Biden because I’ll vote for any democrat. It’s a FAIL because I’ve voted for Biden in the 1980s and the 2000s. And I’ll vote for him again in 2020. And I’ll vote for the Democratic nominee in 2020. Because Republicans are traitors and criminals.

Um ... so you seriously think that you voted for Democrats contradicts that you'd vote for any Democrat?



I didn't think anyone could be dumber then the wench on your avatar, but wow, you prove me wrong

I already said I will vote for any Democrat! Against a Republican that is. I will vote for some Democrats over other Democrats. I will even vote some independents over some Democrats. But I will never vote for a Republican over a Democrat. I will never vote for a libertarian, who’s just an embarrassed Republican, over a Democrat.

I hope you can finally make sense of this in your addled brain.

I would have easily voted Johnson over Clinton or Trump but I thought Stein and even better candidate.

 

[Flopper]

It's true tho....

We should re-open everything now, where masks inside, protect the at risk.


We were never supposed to NOT get it, we were supposed to flatten the curve. Ride the wave to herd immunity n shit.


Stay safe.

Is that what you think the other countries did? You know the ones who have no more deaths. Got everybody infected and killed it through herd immunity??

what a horrible idea you’ve been fed

What was the purpose for shutting down?

To social distance and slow the spread

Correct, but why?

why do we need to slow the spread?

So less people get sick, hospitals don’t get overwhelmed and less people die... I’m not seeing the point you’re trying to make

1. wrong, it was never to prevent you from getting sick.


2. Correct. the shut down and social distancing is to prevent the hospitals from being overwhelmed. That's it. it was never intended to prevent you from ever catching it.


See you agree with me and you didn't even know it. I know I know it feels good.

I don’t agree with you. How do you think so many other countries have such a low case/death count right now? It’s not because they hit herd immunity... less people are getting sick and less people are dying.

that’s was obviously a major factor I don’t see how you can argue otherwise

You are confused, so you know that the reason we shut down was to not overwhelm the hospitals yet your arguing that its about not getting sick? which is it.

Cognitive dissonance is strong with you.


Other countries have lower death rates due to culture, and draconian governments. we have a culture of anti-authority and individualism in the US. we distrust government and when it starts hurting we have no problem defying such.

I opened up my building in defiance of cuomo. No problems here, why is that? Do you think New york and new jerseys flattening of the curve has anything to do with say masks, social distancing, etc?


why does FL have nearly the same number of cases but 1/5 the deaths?


Ask questions my friend, you are being lied to about this virus.

Reasons for the shut down can be BOTH to reduce the spread of the sickness and to not overwhelm hospitals. Both can be true and work hand in hand. It’s not one or the other

True, however the point was to not overwhelm the hospitals and yes reduce the spread does this. reduce the incident rate, not reduce the spread so you don't get it.

Please reread what you just wrote

I did whats up, reduce the spread incident rate to not overwhelm the hospitals.

Are you trying to draw a distinction between the “spread incident rate” and the spread? Also are you trying to say that social distancing doesn’t effect the death count? I just want to be clear

Social distancing and even n95 or better masks do work if done correctly, here in NYC and NJ people are ignoring social distancing rules and are using bandannas or at best surgical masks under thier noses.


Yet no spike, btw.

Didn’t this conversation start because you said we needed to be open for business because the shutdown does nothing to prevent the spread and deaths from the virus? It was only to not overwhelm hospitals.
Correct me if I’m wrong but I thought that was your whole premise that started the debate.

no, that's not how the conversation started.


I think we should open up, with n95 or surgical mask or better rules and let people take care of themselves. Open as much as we can with proper masks indoors, social distance, etc....



bandannas under your nose don't work.

Well then I don’t know what we are arguing about. We are Trying to open and due to sloppy messaging and poor guidelines and reckless behavior we do so too quickly and blew the months of shelter work that sacrificed so many businesses and now the problem is surging again.

I told you you agreed with me.


but here is where we disagree, we are surging, but only in areas where they never had their "Wave".


bonus is the death rate in these states is 1/5 that of new york.

The death rate is not an accurate number. We are testing many more people now than we did when NY was surging... also we are seeing more young people infected now as seniors are more prepared to social distance. But I do agree we are getting better at avoiding and treating the disease.

sure it is, it is clearly going down, it's below 1.3%



but you have to watch the hospitalization capacity rating, thats what flattening the curve is for.



young people should get infected, (no not on purpose) and they should do it at once, that would starve the virus. think about it.

That’s idiotic. Young people are still dying from it. Yes at a very low rate but to promote them getting infected is rediculous. Especially since many can be carrying and spreading it to old people without even knowing it.

young people are dying at such a low rate it's not even like a thing.



Most of those who died and young like 99% of them had underlying conditions.



I am no "promoting" them purposefully getting infected, what I am saying is that it should be expected and they should go about thier days with a mask, with social distancing, but everything open.

A 9 year old died today in Florida.

And closing stores, "Flattening the curve" is what killed the MOST people.
The way to the smallest death count is if we isolate the vulnerable, but then accelerate the young and healthy acquire herd immunity as quickly as possible.
We could have had this over with in March, with less than 30,000 deaths.

What is with you herd immunity people?! Sweden tried it and it failed... what in the world makes you think that would work here?

Herd immunity for this virus is 70% of the population been infected or being vaccinated.. Without a vaccine that means 230 million people have to be positive for the virus to reach herd immunity. Since we have only 4 million confirmed cases, that leaves us with 236 million to go less the number positive that have never been tested.

Yes, the notion that we should rush to infect over 200 million people is frankly insane. I dont know why I even engage with people who push such ideas but I like To see how they try and explain it

Herb immunity is nature's way of controlling an epidemic. 50 million died of the Spanish Influenza. The Black death lingered for several centuries kill a third of population of Europe. The Plague of Justine in 541 AD killed 25 million, about 1/4 population of the Eastern Mediterranean.

Just letting epidemics run their course is not a good idea.

 

[mudwhistle]

Obama was really good at dancing around the truth while reading from his teleprompter.

You’re oblivious to the irony.

You're obliviously a retard.
Trump doesn't use one like Obama.
Obama demanded to know questions in advance.
Trump will answer any question.
So you can shove your irony.

Trump uses one at every single event. Even his rallies.

Does he?

Every single event?
Even press conferences?
Does he read his responses to questions?

Does Trump demand all questions in advance too?

Neither did Obama.

Obama never accepted an interview without demanding all questions in advance.
He also almost never did live interviews.
They were all prerecorded and edited.

You know all of that is false.

Shows how little you know.

 

[Slade3200]

It's true tho....

We should re-open everything now, where masks inside, protect the at risk.


We were never supposed to NOT get it, we were supposed to flatten the curve. Ride the wave to herd immunity n shit.


Stay safe.

Is that what you think the other countries did? You know the ones who have no more deaths. Got everybody infected and killed it through herd immunity??

what a horrible idea you’ve been fed

What was the purpose for shutting down?

To social distance and slow the spread

Correct, but why?

why do we need to slow the spread?

So less people get sick, hospitals don’t get overwhelmed and less people die... I’m not seeing the point you’re trying to make

1. wrong, it was never to prevent you from getting sick.


2. Correct. the shut down and social distancing is to prevent the hospitals from being overwhelmed. That's it. it was never intended to prevent you from ever catching it.


See you agree with me and you didn't even know it. I know I know it feels good.

I don’t agree with you. How do you think so many other countries have such a low case/death count right now? It’s not because they hit herd immunity... less people are getting sick and less people are dying.

that’s was obviously a major factor I don’t see how you can argue otherwise

You are confused, so you know that the reason we shut down was to not overwhelm the hospitals yet your arguing that its about not getting sick? which is it.

Cognitive dissonance is strong with you.


Other countries have lower death rates due to culture, and draconian governments. we have a culture of anti-authority and individualism in the US. we distrust government and when it starts hurting we have no problem defying such.

I opened up my building in defiance of cuomo. No problems here, why is that? Do you think New york and new jerseys flattening of the curve has anything to do with say masks, social distancing, etc?


why does FL have nearly the same number of cases but 1/5 the deaths?


Ask questions my friend, you are being lied to about this virus.

Reasons for the shut down can be BOTH to reduce the spread of the sickness and to not overwhelm hospitals. Both can be true and work hand in hand. It’s not one or the other

True, however the point was to not overwhelm the hospitals and yes reduce the spread does this. reduce the incident rate, not reduce the spread so you don't get it.

Please reread what you just wrote

I did whats up, reduce the spread incident rate to not overwhelm the hospitals.

Are you trying to draw a distinction between the “spread incident rate” and the spread? Also are you trying to say that social distancing doesn’t effect the death count? I just want to be clear

Social distancing and even n95 or better masks do work if done correctly, here in NYC and NJ people are ignoring social distancing rules and are using bandannas or at best surgical masks under thier noses.


Yet no spike, btw.

Didn’t this conversation start because you said we needed to be open for business because the shutdown does nothing to prevent the spread and deaths from the virus? It was only to not overwhelm hospitals.
Correct me if I’m wrong but I thought that was your whole premise that started the debate.

no, that's not how the conversation started.


I think we should open up, with n95 or surgical mask or better rules and let people take care of themselves. Open as much as we can with proper masks indoors, social distance, etc....



bandannas under your nose don't work.

Well then I don’t know what we are arguing about. We are Trying to open and due to sloppy messaging and poor guidelines and reckless behavior we do so too quickly and blew the months of shelter work that sacrificed so many businesses and now the problem is surging again.

I told you you agreed with me.


but here is where we disagree, we are surging, but only in areas where they never had their "Wave".


bonus is the death rate in these states is 1/5 that of new york.

The death rate is not an accurate number. We are testing many more people now than we did when NY was surging... also we are seeing more young people infected now as seniors are more prepared to social distance. But I do agree we are getting better at avoiding and treating the disease.

sure it is, it is clearly going down, it's below 1.3%



but you have to watch the hospitalization capacity rating, thats what flattening the curve is for.



young people should get infected, (no not on purpose) and they should do it at once, that would starve the virus. think about it.

That’s idiotic. Young people are still dying from it. Yes at a very low rate but to promote them getting infected is rediculous. Especially since many can be carrying and spreading it to old people without even knowing it.

young people are dying at such a low rate it's not even like a thing.



Most of those who died and young like 99% of them had underlying conditions.



I am no "promoting" them purposefully getting infected, what I am saying is that it should be expected and they should go about thier days with a mask, with social distancing, but everything open.

A 9 year old died today in Florida.

And closing stores, "Flattening the curve" is what killed the MOST people.
The way to the smallest death count is if we isolate the vulnerable, but then accelerate the young and healthy acquire herd immunity as quickly as possible.
We could have had this over with in March, with less than 30,000 deaths.

What is with you herd immunity people?! Sweden tried it and it failed... what in the world makes you think that would work here?

Herd immunity for this virus is 70% of the population been infected or being vaccinated.. Without a vaccine that means 230 million people have to be positive for the virus to reach herd immunity. Since we have only 4 million confirmed cases, that leaves us with 236 million to go less the number positive that have never been tested.

Yes, the notion that we should rush to infect over 200 million people is frankly insane. I dont know why I even engage with people who push such ideas but I like To see how they try and explain it

Herb immunity is nature's way of controlling an epidemic. 50 million died of the Spanish Influenza. The Black death lingered for several centuries kill a third of population of Europe. The Plague of Justine in 541 AD killed 25 million, about 1/4 population of the Eastern Mediterranean.

Just letting epidemics run their course is not a good idea.

Agreed... we have brains for a reason

 

[Synthaholic]

Oh no, a leftist thinks I'm not really a libertarian. I'm going to cry now ...



Sorry, I tried ...

BTW, you also don't know how to capitalize. I said I am NOT a member of the Libertarian Party. I am just libertarian. I know you don't know what that means with your going to government schools and all

You’re not a libertarian. You’re a Trumper, through and through.

And you're a Biden Humper. Did you have anything but name calling? LOL, I crack myself up. Like you have anything but name calling ....

Interesting that you think Trumper is the same as name-calling. You must associate it with something bad. But you were a teabagger, too, so...

Nope. Biden is irrelevant. I would vote for a turnip over Trump.

How long did it take you to stop opening your mouth as wide as you could every time someone mentioned teabagging?

And this is how stupid you are. Your standard is that to support Trump means you love him and agree with him on every issue, but you don't even have to like him to vote for Biden. It's just more of your brainless drivel

I’m voting to remove Trump from office.

Incorrect, you are voting for the democrat as you are told too.

as always.

is your candidate that bad?

Yes. Syndi would vote for any Democrat. So saying she has a specific reason is obviously a lie. Good call out there

It's actually a tell, she knows that biden is in cognitive crisis so she has to hedge her bets on why she or any democrat is voting for the candidate of thier party, when the wheels come off the bus and biden forgets who or what he is and has to resign they can all pretend it was a protest vote.

I voted for Biden in the 1988 primary over Dukakis and the 2008 primary over Obama, but not the 2020 primary (Bernie). So I’m perfectly happy with Joe Biden as president.

So that’s another FAIL for you.

So you're confirming he was right then calling it a fail, Syndi? I hope you're hot, you're not making a living unless it's on your back

No, fake libertarian - the claim was that I’ll vote for Biden because I’ll vote for any democrat. It’s a FAIL because I’ve voted for Biden in the 1980s and the 2000s. And I’ll vote for him again in 2020. And I’ll vote for the Democratic nominee in 2020. Because Republicans are traitors and criminals.

Um ... so you seriously think that you voted for Democrats contradicts that you'd vote for any Democrat?



I didn't think anyone could be dumber then the wench on your avatar, but wow, you prove me wrong

I already said I will vote for any Democrat! Against a Republican that is. I will vote for some Democrats over other Democrats. I will even vote some independents over some Democrats. But I will never vote for a Republican over a Democrat. I will never vote for a libertarian, who’s just an embarrassed Republican, over a Democrat.

I hope you can finally make sense of this in your addled brain.

I would have easily voted Johnson over Clinton or Trump but I thought Stein and even better candidate.

Gary Johnson? Jill Stein? Then you’re all over the place ideologically. Johnson is a joke. Stein is a Russian asset, if not agent.

 

[Synthaholic]

Obama was really good at dancing around the truth while reading from his teleprompter.

You’re oblivious to the irony.

You're obliviously a retard.
Trump doesn't use one like Obama.
Obama demanded to know questions in advance.
Trump will answer any question.
So you can shove your irony.

Trump uses one at every single event. Even his rallies.

Does he?

Every single event?
Even press conferences?
Does he read his responses to questions?

Does Trump demand all questions in advance too?

Neither did Obama.

Obama never accepted an interview without demanding all questions in advance.
He also almost never did live interviews.
They were all prerecorded and edited.

You know all of that is false.

Shows how little you know.

I think he did e interviews with Wallace and 2 with O’Reilly. Were those fake?

 

[pknopp]

Oh no, a leftist thinks I'm not really a libertarian. I'm going to cry now ...



Sorry, I tried ...

BTW, you also don't know how to capitalize. I said I am NOT a member of the Libertarian Party. I am just libertarian. I know you don't know what that means with your going to government schools and all

You’re not a libertarian. You’re a Trumper, through and through.

And you're a Biden Humper. Did you have anything but name calling? LOL, I crack myself up. Like you have anything but name calling ....

Interesting that you think Trumper is the same as name-calling. You must associate it with something bad. But you were a teabagger, too, so...

Nope. Biden is irrelevant. I would vote for a turnip over Trump.

How long did it take you to stop opening your mouth as wide as you could every time someone mentioned teabagging?

And this is how stupid you are. Your standard is that to support Trump means you love him and agree with him on every issue, but you don't even have to like him to vote for Biden. It's just more of your brainless drivel

I’m voting to remove Trump from office.

Incorrect, you are voting for the democrat as you are told too.

as always.

is your candidate that bad?

Yes. Syndi would vote for any Democrat. So saying she has a specific reason is obviously a lie. Good call out there

It's actually a tell, she knows that biden is in cognitive crisis so she has to hedge her bets on why she or any democrat is voting for the candidate of thier party, when the wheels come off the bus and biden forgets who or what he is and has to resign they can all pretend it was a protest vote.

I voted for Biden in the 1988 primary over Dukakis and the 2008 primary over Obama, but not the 2020 primary (Bernie). So I’m perfectly happy with Joe Biden as president.

So that’s another FAIL for you.

So you're confirming he was right then calling it a fail, Syndi? I hope you're hot, you're not making a living unless it's on your back

No, fake libertarian - the claim was that I’ll vote for Biden because I’ll vote for any democrat. It’s a FAIL because I’ve voted for Biden in the 1980s and the 2000s. And I’ll vote for him again in 2020. And I’ll vote for the Democratic nominee in 2020. Because Republicans are traitors and criminals.

Um ... so you seriously think that you voted for Democrats contradicts that you'd vote for any Democrat?



I didn't think anyone could be dumber then the wench on your avatar, but wow, you prove me wrong

I already said I will vote for any Democrat! Against a Republican that is. I will vote for some Democrats over other Democrats. I will even vote some independents over some Democrats. But I will never vote for a Republican over a Democrat. I will never vote for a libertarian, who’s just an embarrassed Republican, over a Democrat.

I hope you can finally make sense of this in your addled brain.

I would have easily voted Johnson over Clinton or Trump but I thought Stein and even better candidate.

Gary Johnson? Jill Stein? Then you’re all over the place ideologically. Johnson is a joke. Stein is a Russian asset, if not agent.

Johnson was better than Trump or Hillary. That isn't saying much. A chimp was better than Trump or Hillary.

Stein was the only candidate willing to actually stand up for her beliefs when she went and protested with the Standing Rock protester. If that is a Russian asset, so be it.

 

[Synthaholic]

Oh no, a leftist thinks I'm not really a libertarian. I'm going to cry now ...



Sorry, I tried ...

BTW, you also don't know how to capitalize. I said I am NOT a member of the Libertarian Party. I am just libertarian. I know you don't know what that means with your going to government schools and all

You’re not a libertarian. You’re a Trumper, through and through.

And you're a Biden Humper. Did you have anything but name calling? LOL, I crack myself up. Like you have anything but name calling ....

Interesting that you think Trumper is the same as name-calling. You must associate it with something bad. But you were a teabagger, too, so...

Nope. Biden is irrelevant. I would vote for a turnip over Trump.

How long did it take you to stop opening your mouth as wide as you could every time someone mentioned teabagging?

And this is how stupid you are. Your standard is that to support Trump means you love him and agree with him on every issue, but you don't even have to like him to vote for Biden. It's just more of your brainless drivel

I’m voting to remove Trump from office.

Incorrect, you are voting for the democrat as you are told too.

as always.

is your candidate that bad?

Yes. Syndi would vote for any Democrat. So saying she has a specific reason is obviously a lie. Good call out there

It's actually a tell, she knows that biden is in cognitive crisis so she has to hedge her bets on why she or any democrat is voting for the candidate of thier party, when the wheels come off the bus and biden forgets who or what he is and has to resign they can all pretend it was a protest vote.

I voted for Biden in the 1988 primary over Dukakis and the 2008 primary over Obama, but not the 2020 primary (Bernie). So I’m perfectly happy with Joe Biden as president.

So that’s another FAIL for you.

So you're confirming he was right then calling it a fail, Syndi? I hope you're hot, you're not making a living unless it's on your back

No, fake libertarian - the claim was that I’ll vote for Biden because I’ll vote for any democrat. It’s a FAIL because I’ve voted for Biden in the 1980s and the 2000s. And I’ll vote for him again in 2020. And I’ll vote for the Democratic nominee in 2020. Because Republicans are traitors and criminals.

Um ... so you seriously think that you voted for Democrats contradicts that you'd vote for any Democrat?



I didn't think anyone could be dumber then the wench on your avatar, but wow, you prove me wrong

I already said I will vote for any Democrat! Against a Republican that is. I will vote for some Democrats over other Democrats. I will even vote some independents over some Democrats. But I will never vote for a Republican over a Democrat. I will never vote for a libertarian, who’s just an embarrassed Republican, over a Democrat.

I hope you can finally make sense of this in your addled brain.

I would have easily voted Johnson over Clinton or Trump but I thought Stein and even better candidate.

Gary Johnson? Jill Stein? Then you’re all over the place ideologically. Johnson is a joke. Stein is a Russian asset, if not agent.

Johnson was better than Trump or Hillary. That isn't saying much. A chimp was better than Trump or Hillary.

Stein was the only candidate willing to actually stand up for her beliefs when she went and protested with the Standing Rock protester. If that is a Russian asset, so be it.

That one singular incident isn’t what makes her a Russian asset.

If you have irrational hatred toward Hillary I can’t help you.

Holy shit, the stupidity on this forum.

 

[gipper]

Oh no, a leftist thinks I'm not really a libertarian. I'm going to cry now ...



Sorry, I tried ...

BTW, you also don't know how to capitalize. I said I am NOT a member of the Libertarian Party. I am just libertarian. I know you don't know what that means with your going to government schools and all

You’re not a libertarian. You’re a Trumper, through and through.

And you're a Biden Humper. Did you have anything but name calling? LOL, I crack myself up. Like you have anything but name calling ....

Interesting that you think Trumper is the same as name-calling. You must associate it with something bad. But you were a teabagger, too, so...

Nope. Biden is irrelevant. I would vote for a turnip over Trump.

How long did it take you to stop opening your mouth as wide as you could every time someone mentioned teabagging?

And this is how stupid you are. Your standard is that to support Trump means you love him and agree with him on every issue, but you don't even have to like him to vote for Biden. It's just more of your brainless drivel

I’m voting to remove Trump from office.

Incorrect, you are voting for the democrat as you are told too.

as always.

is your candidate that bad?

Yes. Syndi would vote for any Democrat. So saying she has a specific reason is obviously a lie. Good call out there

It's actually a tell, she knows that biden is in cognitive crisis so she has to hedge her bets on why she or any democrat is voting for the candidate of thier party, when the wheels come off the bus and biden forgets who or what he is and has to resign they can all pretend it was a protest vote.

I voted for Biden in the 1988 primary over Dukakis and the 2008 primary over Obama, but not the 2020 primary (Bernie). So I’m perfectly happy with Joe Biden as president.

So that’s another FAIL for you.

So you're confirming he was right then calling it a fail, Syndi? I hope you're hot, you're not making a living unless it's on your back

No, fake libertarian - the claim was that I’ll vote for Biden because I’ll vote for any democrat. It’s a FAIL because I’ve voted for Biden in the 1980s and the 2000s. And I’ll vote for him again in 2020. And I’ll vote for the Democratic nominee in 2020. Because Republicans are traitors and criminals.

Um ... so you seriously think that you voted for Democrats contradicts that you'd vote for any Democrat?



I didn't think anyone could be dumber then the wench on your avatar, but wow, you prove me wrong

I already said I will vote for any Democrat! Against a Republican that is. I will vote for some Democrats over other Democrats. I will even vote some independents over some Democrats. But I will never vote for a Republican over a Democrat. I will never vote for a libertarian, who’s just an embarrassed Republican, over a Democrat.

I hope you can finally make sense of this in your addled brain.

I would have easily voted Johnson over Clinton or Trump but I thought Stein and even better candidate.

Gary Johnson? Jill Stein? Then you’re all over the place ideologically. Johnson is a joke. Stein is a Russian asset, if not agent.

Must you mimic the MSM all the fucking time?

Saying Stein is a Russian asset is terribly ignorant and is red baiting just like right wingers did in the 50s and still do today.

You damn wingers will be the death of us.

 

[gipper]

Oh no, a leftist thinks I'm not really a libertarian. I'm going to cry now ...



Sorry, I tried ...

BTW, you also don't know how to capitalize. I said I am NOT a member of the Libertarian Party. I am just libertarian. I know you don't know what that means with your going to government schools and all

You’re not a libertarian. You’re a Trumper, through and through.

And you're a Biden Humper. Did you have anything but name calling? LOL, I crack myself up. Like you have anything but name calling ....

Interesting that you think Trumper is the same as name-calling. You must associate it with something bad. But you were a teabagger, too, so...

Nope. Biden is irrelevant. I would vote for a turnip over Trump.

How long did it take you to stop opening your mouth as wide as you could every time someone mentioned teabagging?

And this is how stupid you are. Your standard is that to support Trump means you love him and agree with him on every issue, but you don't even have to like him to vote for Biden. It's just more of your brainless drivel

I’m voting to remove Trump from office.

Incorrect, you are voting for the democrat as you are told too.

as always.

is your candidate that bad?

Yes. Syndi would vote for any Democrat. So saying she has a specific reason is obviously a lie. Good call out there

It's actually a tell, she knows that biden is in cognitive crisis so she has to hedge her bets on why she or any democrat is voting for the candidate of thier party, when the wheels come off the bus and biden forgets who or what he is and has to resign they can all pretend it was a protest vote.

I voted for Biden in the 1988 primary over Dukakis and the 2008 primary over Obama, but not the 2020 primary (Bernie). So I’m perfectly happy with Joe Biden as president.

So that’s another FAIL for you.

So you're confirming he was right then calling it a fail, Syndi? I hope you're hot, you're not making a living unless it's on your back

No, fake libertarian - the claim was that I’ll vote for Biden because I’ll vote for any democrat. It’s a FAIL because I’ve voted for Biden in the 1980s and the 2000s. And I’ll vote for him again in 2020. And I’ll vote for the Democratic nominee in 2020. Because Republicans are traitors and criminals.

Um ... so you seriously think that you voted for Democrats contradicts that you'd vote for any Democrat?



I didn't think anyone could be dumber then the wench on your avatar, but wow, you prove me wrong

I already said I will vote for any Democrat! Against a Republican that is. I will vote for some Democrats over other Democrats. I will even vote some independents over some Democrats. But I will never vote for a Republican over a Democrat. I will never vote for a libertarian, who’s just an embarrassed Republican, over a Democrat.

I hope you can finally make sense of this in your addled brain.

I would have easily voted Johnson over Clinton or Trump but I thought Stein and even better candidate.

Gary Johnson? Jill Stein? Then you’re all over the place ideologically. Johnson is a joke. Stein is a Russian asset, if not agent.

Johnson was better than Trump or Hillary. That isn't saying much. A chimp was better than Trump or Hillary.

Stein was the only candidate willing to actually stand up for her beliefs when she went and protested with the Standing Rock protester. If that is a Russian asset, so be it.

That one singular incident isn’t what makes her a Russian asset.

If you have irrational hatred toward Hillary I can’t help you.

Holy shit, the stupidity on this forum.

LOL. This from one of the dumbest posters ever.

 

[pknopp]

Oh no, a leftist thinks I'm not really a libertarian. I'm going to cry now ...



Sorry, I tried ...

BTW, you also don't know how to capitalize. I said I am NOT a member of the Libertarian Party. I am just libertarian. I know you don't know what that means with your going to government schools and all

You’re not a libertarian. You’re a Trumper, through and through.

And you're a Biden Humper. Did you have anything but name calling? LOL, I crack myself up. Like you have anything but name calling ....

Interesting that you think Trumper is the same as name-calling. You must associate it with something bad. But you were a teabagger, too, so...

Nope. Biden is irrelevant. I would vote for a turnip over Trump.

How long did it take you to stop opening your mouth as wide as you could every time someone mentioned teabagging?

And this is how stupid you are. Your standard is that to support Trump means you love him and agree with him on every issue, but you don't even have to like him to vote for Biden. It's just more of your brainless drivel

I’m voting to remove Trump from office.

Incorrect, you are voting for the democrat as you are told too.

as always.

is your candidate that bad?

Yes. Syndi would vote for any Democrat. So saying she has a specific reason is obviously a lie. Good call out there

It's actually a tell, she knows that biden is in cognitive crisis so she has to hedge her bets on why she or any democrat is voting for the candidate of thier party, when the wheels come off the bus and biden forgets who or what he is and has to resign they can all pretend it was a protest vote.

I voted for Biden in the 1988 primary over Dukakis and the 2008 primary over Obama, but not the 2020 primary (Bernie). So I’m perfectly happy with Joe Biden as president.

So that’s another FAIL for you.

So you're confirming he was right then calling it a fail, Syndi? I hope you're hot, you're not making a living unless it's on your back

No, fake libertarian - the claim was that I’ll vote for Biden because I’ll vote for any democrat. It’s a FAIL because I’ve voted for Biden in the 1980s and the 2000s. And I’ll vote for him again in 2020. And I’ll vote for the Democratic nominee in 2020. Because Republicans are traitors and criminals.

Um ... so you seriously think that you voted for Democrats contradicts that you'd vote for any Democrat?



I didn't think anyone could be dumber then the wench on your avatar, but wow, you prove me wrong

I already said I will vote for any Democrat! Against a Republican that is. I will vote for some Democrats over other Democrats. I will even vote some independents over some Democrats. But I will never vote for a Republican over a Democrat. I will never vote for a libertarian, who’s just an embarrassed Republican, over a Democrat.

I hope you can finally make sense of this in your addled brain.

I would have easily voted Johnson over Clinton or Trump but I thought Stein and even better candidate.

Gary Johnson? Jill Stein? Then you’re all over the place ideologically. Johnson is a joke. Stein is a Russian asset, if not agent.

Johnson was better than Trump or Hillary. That isn't saying much. A chimp was better than Trump or Hillary.

Stein was the only candidate willing to actually stand up for her beliefs when she went and protested with the Standing Rock protester. If that is a Russian asset, so be it.

That one singular incident isn’t what makes her a Russian asset.

If you have irrational hatred toward Hillary I can’t help you.

Holy shit, the stupidity on this forum.

War monger. Liar. Bought by Wall Street. Irrational? I don't think so.

 

[Flopper]

“Older people, vulnerable people are going to die from this virus. That is going to happen despite whatever you do. Because with all our progress as a society, we can’t keep everyone alive.”

Unreal, what a heartless fuck. Why not just reopen everything now?

I was suspicious from the start since you didn't provide a quote

Actual quote:
"People are going to die by this virus. That is the truth," Cuomo said during a Sunday press briefing in Albany. "Older people, vulnerable people are going to die from this virus. That is going to happen, despite whatever you do. Because with all our progress as a society, we can't keep everyone alive."

New York has the best hospital system and doctors, Cuomo said. "We worked it out so we always had available beds. Nobody was deprived of a bed or medical coverage in any way and still people died."

"Older people are more vulnerable and that is a fact and that is not going to change," Cuomo said. "Look, to me, the really difficult conversations for me are, 'My son was 40 years old, he was not a senior citizen, did not have a comorbidity, and got this virus because he was an essential worker and doing the right thing and he had an aneurysm.' There's a randomness to this virus that is inexplicable. Why do people die? That's beyond this. Who's accountable?"

Coronavirus Updates: Cuomo Defends Coronavirus Nursing Home Response

"Older people, vulnerable people are going to die from this virus. That is going to happen, despite whatever you do. Because with all our progress as a society, we can't keep everyone alive."

gothamist.com

Who is accountable?
Certainly Cuomo is accountable for what happens in New York and unlike Trump, Cuomo has repeatedly said the buck stops with him.

Meanwhile Trump accepts no blame or responsibility for the death of 140,000 Americans- despite his assurances to us all that he had everything under control from January on.

Who is accoutable?
Well it's sorted like the old joke, " We knocked up the secretary" While heads of government have to bear a lot of the responsibility because they make the big decisions. It is the actions of the people that determine the outcome of an epidemic because we are one's that spread the disease. If we had all followed the CDC recommendation over the last 3 or 4 months, we would be far better off today. Instead we have 11% unemployment, schools are closed, a 1000 people a day are dying, many of our hospitals are full and there is no end in sight. All we had to do was wear a mask in public, keep our distance, and quarantine.

Look at South Korea. They initiated extensive testing, tracing, quarantining, ordered mask wearing, and social distancing, but the real kicker was the people did what they were told to do. The result is 285 deaths from the virus over the last 6 months. Only a few hundred schools had to close and most businesses stayed open. Today their unemployment is 4.3%. Their factory, schools, and business are back to normal. This could have been the US. We had a superior healthcare infrastructure, probably the best national disease control agency in the world, and essentially unlimited finances to fight the virus.

We had both a failure in leadership and a failure of the public to focus and work toward a common goal, ending the epidemic.

 

[Orangecat]

Hounding know what asymptomatic means, do you.

Coherent English, please.

 

[fncceo]

“Older people, vulnerable people are going to die from this virus. That is going to happen despite whatever you do. Because with all our progress as a society, we can’t keep everyone alive.”

Unreal, what a heartless fuck. Why not just reopen everything now?

I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not. But regardless, Trump is right. We can't keep everyone alive. Death finds you no matter how much you try to avoid it or delay it. Stats show that the old and vulnerable are almost guaranteed to die from the virus.

Heartless? No. Realistic? Brutally so.

That doesn't mean that there aren't many things one can do to not spread it. Things Trump dismisses. It's one thing to note that some will die. It's another to advocate for things that will cause more to die.

His dismissals do not spread the virus, people who don't exercise personal hygiene do.

Trump was clearly anti-mask which is a part of personal hygiene.

Pfizer just announced a $1.75 billion contract with the US government to produce up to 600 million doses of a COVID-19 vaccine by December. It is in the final phase of human trials. His initiative "Operation Warp Speed" was him advocating for an effort to develop and distribute a viable vaccine in unprecedented time.

So, his "advocacy" according to your logic, will save tens of millions if not hundreds of millions of lives.

Pfizer would have jumped on the money train no matter who is president.

Masks don't do shit. That's a fact.

A Pfizer spokesman was on the news yesterday and said that if their costs were covered, they would distribute the vaccine free of charge to the public.

Masks work. That's the real, non tRumpling, fact.

No, they don't. Not one single mask people are wearing will protect you from a VIRUS... a VIRUS. All you're doing is filtering out LARGE DUST PARTICLES, period.

Don't be stupid.

Then why did Trump take to wearing one? Is he stupid?

He did it to placate the idiots like you.

Trump doesn't wear one all the time. Only when close to others. A mask is a breading ground for bacteira and viruses, especially when not cleaned daily. There is a time and place for needing a mask but most can not reason those times out. Masks only slow the spread to others by catching what YOU EXHALE in the water droplets you breath out, but its less than 30% effective. It stops nothing you are breathing in. Don't get me started on face shields, they are worthless.

If you're infected, and wearing a mask, the virus WILL exit your mask, and if someone else is near that person, wearing another mask, they WILL breath it in. These masks will not stop the virus, that's just the plain and simple fact of the matter.

I don't know how many people are ignorant enough to believe masks will stop the virus completely, that a mask protects 100% from catching it, but I'm sure there's plenty. I think most other people think masks will somehow lessen their chances of breathing it, which is really irrelevant, since the amount of the virus you breath doesn't make much difference. Either a little or a lot, you got it now.

All this mask hysteria is doing is giving people a false sense of security. They chose to not listen to the facts, that masks are virtually worthless, in order to feel safe(r). But wearing one should be a choice. It should not be mandatory. That's the problem I have with it. I know masks are a joke refuse to be told to wear one. If someone else wants to believe it's protecting them, fine, wear it.

Years ago when I was in the Army we used positive pressure suits to protect us and there was a reason for it. A ventilator was the only way you could scrub enough air to keep you safe. Most people don't have a clue what it takes to be safe in a level 3 or 4 bio lab.

Which no one is in.

Keep you head firmly implanted in your ass.... Wear a mask if you feel it keeps you safe. I will take real percaution's that are proven effective and not placiebos meant to make you "feel" safe...

Good grief. You would think that by now people would understand masks are to protect others from you. Pay attention, people.

Why would I want to protect others from me?

The entire concept of self-defence is protecting myself from others.

MORON ALERT!

Don't be so hard on yourself.

 

[petro]

Stein is a Russian asset, if not agent

Yup.
You're an idiot. Just like Stein.

 

[Crepitus]

Oh no, a leftist thinks I'm not really a libertarian. I'm going to cry now ...



Sorry, I tried ...

BTW, you also don't know how to capitalize. I said I am NOT a member of the Libertarian Party. I am just libertarian. I know you don't know what that means with your going to government schools and all

You’re not a libertarian. You’re a Trumper, through and through.

And you're a Biden Humper. Did you have anything but name calling? LOL, I crack myself up. Like you have anything but name calling ....

Interesting that you think Trumper is the same as name-calling. You must associate it with something bad. But you were a teabagger, too, so...

Nope. Biden is irrelevant. I would vote for a turnip over Trump.

How long did it take you to stop opening your mouth as wide as you could every time someone mentioned teabagging?

And this is how stupid you are. Your standard is that to support Trump means you love him and agree with him on every issue, but you don't even have to like him to vote for Biden. It's just more of your brainless drivel

I’m voting to remove Trump from office.

Incorrect, you are voting for the democrat as you are told too.

as always.

is your candidate that bad?

Yes. Syndi would vote for any Democrat. So saying she has a specific reason is obviously a lie. Good call out there

It's actually a tell, she knows that biden is in cognitive crisis so she has to hedge her bets on why she or any democrat is voting for the candidate of thier party, when the wheels come off the bus and biden forgets who or what he is and has to resign they can all pretend it was a protest vote.

I voted for Biden in the 1988 primary over Dukakis and the 2008 primary over Obama, but not the 2020 primary (Bernie). So I’m perfectly happy with Joe Biden as president.

So that’s another FAIL for you.

So you're confirming he was right then calling it a fail, Syndi? I hope you're hot, you're not making a living unless it's on your back

No, fake libertarian - the claim was that I’ll vote for Biden because I’ll vote for any democrat. It’s a FAIL because I’ve voted for Biden in the 1980s and the 2000s. And I’ll vote for him again in 2020. And I’ll vote for the Democratic nominee in 2020. Because Republicans are traitors and criminals.

Um ... so you seriously think that you voted for Democrats contradicts that you'd vote for any Democrat?



I didn't think anyone could be dumber then the wench on your avatar, but wow, you prove me wrong

I already said I will vote for any Democrat! Against a Republican that is. I will vote for some Democrats over other Democrats. I will even vote some independents over some Democrats. But I will never vote for a Republican over a Democrat. I will never vote for a libertarian, who’s just an embarrassed Republican, over a Democrat.

I hope you can finally make sense of this in your addled brain.

I would have easily voted Johnson over Clinton or Trump but I thought Stein and even better candidate.

I thought Johnson would have been fun. A stoner in the Whitehouse.

Couldn't be worse than what we ended up with.

 

[Orangecat]

I thought Johnson would have been fun.

I'm sure you do. Lol.

 

[pknopp]

Oh no, a leftist thinks I'm not really a libertarian. I'm going to cry now ...



Sorry, I tried ...

BTW, you also don't know how to capitalize. I said I am NOT a member of the Libertarian Party. I am just libertarian. I know you don't know what that means with your going to government schools and all

You’re not a libertarian. You’re a Trumper, through and through.

And you're a Biden Humper. Did you have anything but name calling? LOL, I crack myself up. Like you have anything but name calling ....

Interesting that you think Trumper is the same as name-calling. You must associate it with something bad. But you were a teabagger, too, so...

Nope. Biden is irrelevant. I would vote for a turnip over Trump.

How long did it take you to stop opening your mouth as wide as you could every time someone mentioned teabagging?

And this is how stupid you are. Your standard is that to support Trump means you love him and agree with him on every issue, but you don't even have to like him to vote for Biden. It's just more of your brainless drivel

I’m voting to remove Trump from office.

Incorrect, you are voting for the democrat as you are told too.

as always.

is your candidate that bad?

Yes. Syndi would vote for any Democrat. So saying she has a specific reason is obviously a lie. Good call out there

It's actually a tell, she knows that biden is in cognitive crisis so she has to hedge her bets on why she or any democrat is voting for the candidate of thier party, when the wheels come off the bus and biden forgets who or what he is and has to resign they can all pretend it was a protest vote.

I voted for Biden in the 1988 primary over Dukakis and the 2008 primary over Obama, but not the 2020 primary (Bernie). So I’m perfectly happy with Joe Biden as president.

So that’s another FAIL for you.

So you're confirming he was right then calling it a fail, Syndi? I hope you're hot, you're not making a living unless it's on your back

No, fake libertarian - the claim was that I’ll vote for Biden because I’ll vote for any democrat. It’s a FAIL because I’ve voted for Biden in the 1980s and the 2000s. And I’ll vote for him again in 2020. And I’ll vote for the Democratic nominee in 2020. Because Republicans are traitors and criminals.

Um ... so you seriously think that you voted for Democrats contradicts that you'd vote for any Democrat?



I didn't think anyone could be dumber then the wench on your avatar, but wow, you prove me wrong

I already said I will vote for any Democrat! Against a Republican that is. I will vote for some Democrats over other Democrats. I will even vote some independents over some Democrats. But I will never vote for a Republican over a Democrat. I will never vote for a libertarian, who’s just an embarrassed Republican, over a Democrat.

I hope you can finally make sense of this in your addled brain.

I would have easily voted Johnson over Clinton or Trump but I thought Stein and even better candidate.

I thought Johnson would have been fun. A stoner in the Whitehouse.

Couldn't be worse than what we ended up with.

Johnson did a lot to expose the Libertarian Party to a larger audience and while I don't really blame him I was dissapointed when he sold out for the money by picking Weld.

I did otherwise really like his honesty.

 

[Gracie]

Can't live forever.