Trump lost me, most insensitive ahole Covid remark

Because with all our progress as a society, we can’t keep everyone alive.”

He's not wrong.

Statistics show that 98% of people will die at some point.
So is his dumbass talking about wearing masks being patriotic?

I just got you a mask. Made in America. Wear it with pride.

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I have to say, living in a country with no community spread of COVID and no restraints whatsoever except at the borders, it's hard to take on board the wilful ignorance manifested by so many of the IMPOTUS's supporters in regard to COVID.

It's almost as though he threw you all under the bus by implying wearing a mask was patriotic.

That would be sad.
 
Oh no, a leftist thinks I'm not really a libertarian. I'm going to cry now ...

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Sorry, I tried ...

BTW, you also don't know how to capitalize. I said I am NOT a member of the Libertarian Party. I am just libertarian. I know you don't know what that means with your going to government schools and all
You’re not a libertarian. You’re a Trumper, through and through.

And you're a Biden Humper. Did you have anything but name calling? LOL, I crack myself up. Like you have anything but name calling ....
Interesting that you think Trumper is the same as name-calling. You must associate it with something bad. But you were a teabagger, too, so...

Nope. Biden is irrelevant. I would vote for a turnip over Trump.

How long did it take you to stop opening your mouth as wide as you could every time someone mentioned teabagging?

And this is how stupid you are. Your standard is that to support Trump means you love him and agree with him on every issue, but you don't even have to like him to vote for Biden. It's just more of your brainless drivel
I’m voting to remove Trump from office.





Incorrect, you are voting for the democrat as you are told too.

as always.

is your candidate that bad?

Yes. Syndi would vote for any Democrat. So saying she has a specific reason is obviously a lie. Good call out there






It's actually a tell, she knows that biden is in cognitive crisis so she has to hedge her bets on why she or any democrat is voting for the candidate of thier party, when the wheels come off the bus and biden forgets who or what he is and has to resign they can all pretend it was a protest vote.
I voted for Biden in the 1988 primary over Dukakis and the 2008 primary over Obama, but not the 2020 primary (Bernie). So I’m perfectly happy with Joe Biden as president.

So that’s another FAIL for you. :)

So you're confirming he was right then calling it a fail, Syndi? I hope you're hot, you're not making a living unless it's on your back
No, fake libertarian - the claim was that I’ll vote for Biden because I’ll vote for any democrat. It’s a FAIL because I’ve voted for Biden in the 1980s and the 2000s. And I’ll vote for him again in 2020. And I’ll vote for the Democratic nominee in 2020. Because Republicans are traitors and criminals.


Will you cry again if trump wins?


Trump is not going to win. He’s going to lose in a landslide.




You said that in 2016 cupcake
 
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It's true tho....

We should re-open everything now, where masks inside, protect the at risk.


We were never supposed to NOT get it, we were supposed to flatten the curve. Ride the wave to herd immunity n shit.


Stay safe.
Is that what you think the other countries did? You know the ones who have no more deaths. Got everybody infected and killed it through herd immunity??

what a horrible idea you’ve been fed





What was the purpose for shutting down?
To social distance and slow the spread



Correct, but why?

why do we need to slow the spread?
So less people get sick, hospitals don’t get overwhelmed and less people die... I’m not seeing the point you’re trying to make




1. wrong, it was never to prevent you from getting sick.


2. Correct. the shut down and social distancing is to prevent the hospitals from being overwhelmed. That's it. it was never intended to prevent you from ever catching it.


See you agree with me and you didn't even know it. I know I know it feels good. ;)
I don’t agree with you. How do you think so many other countries have such a low case/death count right now? It’s not because they hit herd immunity... less people are getting sick and less people are dying.

that’s was obviously a major factor I don’t see how you can argue otherwise




You are confused, so you know that the reason we shut down was to not overwhelm the hospitals yet your arguing that its about not getting sick? which is it.

Cognitive dissonance is strong with you.


Other countries have lower death rates due to culture, and draconian governments. we have a culture of anti-authority and individualism in the US. we distrust government and when it starts hurting we have no problem defying such.

I opened up my building in defiance of cuomo. No problems here, why is that? Do you think New york and new jerseys flattening of the curve has anything to do with say masks, social distancing, etc?


why does FL have nearly the same number of cases but 1/5 the deaths?


Ask questions my friend, you are being lied to about this virus.
Reasons for the shut down can be BOTH to reduce the spread of the sickness and to not overwhelm hospitals. Both can be true and work hand in hand. It’s not one or the other



True, however the point was to not overwhelm the hospitals and yes reduce the spread does this. reduce the incident rate, not reduce the spread so you don't get it.
Please reread what you just wrote



I did whats up, reduce the spread incident rate to not overwhelm the hospitals.
Are you trying to draw a distinction between the “spread incident rate” and the spread? Also are you trying to say that social distancing doesn’t effect the death count? I just want to be clear



Social distancing and even n95 or better masks do work if done correctly, here in NYC and NJ people are ignoring social distancing rules and are using bandannas or at best surgical masks under thier noses.


Yet no spike, btw.
Didn’t this conversation start because you said we needed to be open for business because the shutdown does nothing to prevent the spread and deaths from the virus? It was only to not overwhelm hospitals.
Correct me if I’m wrong but I thought that was your whole premise that started the debate.




no, that's not how the conversation started.


I think we should open up, with n95 or surgical mask or better rules and let people take care of themselves. Open as much as we can with proper masks indoors, social distance, etc....



bandannas under your nose don't work.
Well then I don’t know what we are arguing about. We are Trying to open and due to sloppy messaging and poor guidelines and reckless behavior we do so too quickly and blew the months of shelter work that sacrificed so many businesses and now the problem is surging again.



I told you you agreed with me.


but here is where we disagree, we are surging, but only in areas where they never had their "Wave".


bonus is the death rate in these states is 1/5 that of new york.
The death rate is not an accurate number. We are testing many more people now than we did when NY was surging... also we are seeing more young people infected now as seniors are more prepared to social distance. But I do agree we are getting better at avoiding and treating the disease.




sure it is, it is clearly going down, it's below 1.3%



but you have to watch the hospitalization capacity rating, thats what flattening the curve is for.



young people should get infected, (no not on purpose) and they should do it at once, that would starve the virus. think about it.
That’s idiotic. Young people are still dying from it. Yes at a very low rate but to promote them getting infected is rediculous. Especially since many can be carrying and spreading it to old people without even knowing it.





young people are dying at such a low rate it's not even like a thing.



Most of those who died and young like 99% of them had underlying conditions.



I am no "promoting" them purposefully getting infected, what I am saying is that it should be expected and they should go about thier days with a mask, with social distancing, but everything open.
I hear what you are suggesting and that method will lead to more deaths and wider spread. We are seeing it happening now. If that’s what you want then fine you are entitled to that opinion. But don’t pretend that more carnage won’t be the result of your suggestions


its going to end uo saving lives in the end. Thats the oart you dont get.
 
No, fake libertarian - the claim was that I’ll vote for Biden because I’ll vote for any democrat. It’s a FAIL because I’ve voted for Biden in the 1980s and the 2000s. And I’ll vote for him again in 2020. And I’ll vote for the Democratic nominee in 2020. Because Republicans are traitors and criminals.

Um ... so you seriously think that you voted for Democrats contradicts that you'd vote for any Democrat?

:woohoo:

I didn't think anyone could be dumber then the wench on your avatar, but wow, you prove me wrong
I already said I will vote for any Democrat! Against a Republican that is. I will vote for some Democrats over other Democrats. I will even vote some independents over some Democrats. But I will never vote for a Republican over a Democrat. I will never vote for a libertarian, who’s just an embarrassed Republican, over a Democrat.

I hope you can finally make sense of this in your addled brain.

You still don't get that you keep telling me what I told you in the first place, do you?
 
I would have easily voted Johnson over Clinton or Trump but I thought Stein and even better candidate.
Gary Johnson? Jill Stein? Then you’re all over the place ideologically. Johnson is a joke. Stein is a Russian asset, if not agent.

A lot of us (libertarians) were really upset at the Libertarian Party in 2016 for taking such a great opportunity to field a great candidate and get a lot of national attention. But the Libertarian Party face planted and re-nominated Johnson, who isn't even a libertarian.

Voting for Stein would have made a lot of sense. She wasn't going to win, and it was a way to tell the LP we weren't happy with them either.

Then again now they turned around and picked the anarchist running mate of a performance artist who isn't libertarian at all for VP, so obviously their learning from their mistakes isn't on the menu right now
 
Johnson was better than Trump or Hillary. That isn't saying much. A chimp was better than Trump or Hillary.

Stein was the only candidate willing to actually stand up for her beliefs when she went and protested with the Standing Rock protester. If that is a Russian asset, so be it.
That one singular incident isn’t what makes her a Russian asset.

If you have irrational hatred toward Hillary I can’t help you.

Holy shit, the stupidity on this forum.
LOL. This from one of the dumbest posters ever.

There's no reason to "irrationally" hate Hillary? Why be irrational when there are so many good reasons to do so?
 
Johnson was better than Trump or Hillary. That isn't saying much. A chimp was better than Trump or Hillary.

Stein was the only candidate willing to actually stand up for her beliefs when she went and protested with the Standing Rock protester. If that is a Russian asset, so be it.
That one singular incident isn’t what makes her a Russian asset.

If you have irrational hatred toward Hillary I can’t help you.

Holy shit, the stupidity on this forum.
LOL. This from one of the dumbest posters ever.

There's no reason to "irrationally" hate Hillary? Why be irrational when there are so many good reasons to do so?
Exactly. It’s irrational NOT to hate Hillary.

We have a lot of dishonest crooked elitist politicians in this country, but Hillary has proven herself to be one of the worst.
 
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I already said I will vote for any Democrat! Against a Republican that is. I will vote for some Democrats over other Democrats. I will even vote some independents over some Democrats. But I will never vote for a Republican over a Democrat. I will never vote for a libertarian, who’s just an embarrassed Republican, over a Democrat.

I hope you can finally make sense of this in your addled brain.

I would have easily voted Johnson over Clinton or Trump but I thought Stein and even better candidate.
I thought Johnson would have been fun. A stoner in the Whitehouse.

Couldn't be worse than what we ended up with.

I'd have taken Johnson over Trump or Hillary for sure. But the Libertarian Party isn't going to win, they need to grow. And you don't do that by nominating a pot head who's a cliche of a libertarian without actually being one
 
I would have easily voted Johnson over Clinton or Trump but I thought Stein and even better candidate.
Gary Johnson? Jill Stein? Then you’re all over the place ideologically. Johnson is a joke. Stein is a Russian asset, if not agent.

A lot of us (libertarians) were really upset at the Libertarian Party in 2016 for taking such a great opportunity to field a great candidate and get a lot of national attention. But the Libertarian Party face planted and re-nominated Johnson, who isn't even a libertarian.

Voting for Stein would have made a lot of sense. She wasn't going to win, and it was a way to tell the LP we weren't happy with them either.

Then again now they turned around and picked the anarchist running mate of a performance artist who isn't libertarian at all for VP, so obviously their learning from their mistakes isn't on the menu right now

Johnson was ton better than Petersen.
 

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