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Trump On Woodward Tape Admitting To Lying About Seriousness Of Coronavirus
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OK, Stewie, thanks
Your link provides ZERO EVIDENCE those acts were caused by calling it the Chinese virus.I would like for colfax_m to tell us what part of Trump’s Kung Flu response was “xenophobic”, if it wasn’t the travel bans.Is that the reality where Trump claimed in the spring that COVID is no big deal, the Democrats are using it for a hoax, it’s going to disappear and it’s totally under control?How can I change your mind? We’d have to live in the same reality first.There is nothing that can be said to many Trump supporters to change their minds. They are so encapsulated in Trump’s world, it would break their brains to come to terms with reality.what I dont get is why are dems trying so hard to get trump re-elected???dont change the subject,,,why do you attack him for everything he does???As I have written Trump lied and people died. It is as clear as day now that he was lying the whole time he was downplaying Covid. The two-faced President was telling Woodward just how dangerous it was while telling the people it will magically disappear.
How many people died because of Trump's lies. 20,000..50.,000..120,000?
Trump's apologists will make fools of themselves once arguing that Trump did not say or mean what he obviously said and meant.
Just when you think Trump has hit bottom..he once again proves us wrong by reaching even greater depths of depravity.
He is responsible for the deaths and the dying from this virus, and the economy.
Trump is also responsible for your acne and the mole in your back yard.
Cut the stupid shit. The Chinese are responsible for the people dying. Of course Joe didn't need to try to help them by undercutting the President while he tried to deal with it.
Now Joe's advertising his Biden virus plan ... to do what Trump is doing now ...
Why can’t you guys ever hold Trump responsible for anything?
he tried to keep the people calm,,,whats wrong about that???
Calm? Like he does at his hate rallies? Do you mean like that?
So not calm thank you.
Is that what you are doing in here? Trying to change minds? And to do that you hurl insults, and slurs at the people you disagree with to accomplish that? Hmmm....I actually think it would "break the brains" of liberals like yourself to admit that Trump has done anything positive....even though you know he has.
Actually if you just joined us in reality, that would do it
Or should I stay in the reality where COVID has killed hundreds of thousands, continues to kill about a thousand people per day and has caused trillions upon trillions of economic damage?
You mean the sring where Nancy was inviting people down to Chinatown, and Joe was calling the travel ban xenophobic, and fear mongering? That spring?
And due to the administrations actions the death toll from this virus is within CDC projected numbers...That's science.
But Biden never called the ban xenophobic and fear mongering and what was exactly was wrong with inviting people to Chinatown in February?
Colfax: But Biden never called the ban xenophobic and fear mongering
Fact check: Liar, liar pants on fire
Colfax: and what was exactly was wrong with inviting people to Chinatown in February?
Your hypocrisy of attacking Trump now for admitting he downplayed the Biden virus
Colfax: Biden never called the ban xenophobic and fear mongering
Kaz: Yes he did and I have proof.
Colfax: Can I see this proof?
Kaz: No! (Jumps out window)
You are really bad at making a compelling case.
“Nakedly xenophobic”
Biden: Trump’s coronavirus response has been ‘nakedly xenophobic’
Former Vice President Joe Biden on Monday accused President Trump of “fanning the flames” of “hate, fear and xenophobia” against Asian Americans during the coronavirus outbreak.thehill.com
Cant wait for your lame ass spin claiming he wasn’t talking about the travel ban.....or some other dumbassery.
GO!
Biden's words speak for themselves.
“The pandemic has unleashed familiar forces of hate, fear and xenophobia that he always flames … that have always existed in this society,” Biden said. “But this president brought it with him, has brought with it a new rash of racial messages, verbal and physical attacks and other acts of hate, some subtle, some overt, against the Asian American and Pacific Islanders.”
“We deserve better than a president who attacks the Speaker of the House for visiting a local Chinatown business in San Francisco. We deserve better than a president who aggressively and childishly insults Asian American reporter. Think of that, the president of the U.S. for the whole world to see, insults an Asian American reporter in the Rose Garden for doing her job and asking a direct question. You deserve a partner and a friend in the White House.”
He said exactly what he means and nothing in his comments referred to the travel ban.
Thank you for providing an article that contradicts what you want me to believe. It's far easier this way. Perhaps you should have read it.
LOL, just as I predicted in the last post.
colfax: Biden's comments about the travel ban weren't referring to the travel ban.
Thank you, Mr. Doublespeak
It’s in Biden’s comments, which if you read, you wouldn’t have to ask.
Calling it the China virus stigmatized Asian Americans who were discriminated against as a result.
Thats the best ya got?
Link us up to all this discrimination due to calling it the China Virus.
GO!
It's a trivial google search:
Amid COVID-19 Pandemic, Asian Americans Facing Discrimination
While many communities across the country celebrate Asian and Pacific Islander American Heritage Month this May, a growing number of Asian Americans fear for their safety, saying they’ve become targets of COVID-19-related discrimination. Since the coronavirus pandemic began, there have been...www.nbcboston.com
Try again.
How stupid would someone have to be to think that Chinese virus refers to American Chinese? My God. Every time I think colfax can't look any more stupid, he proves me wrong. Amazing
2,120 [ reported ] hate incidents against Asian Americans reported during coronavirus pandemic
By Erin Donaghue
July 2, 2020 / 1:57 PM / CBS News
2,120 hate incidents against Asian Americans reported during coronavirus pandemic
There have been a half a million abortions since it started. We're a country of 330 million people. 2,120 incidents? There are a lot of nuts out there. This totally undercuts your argument. You're hyping another crisis that doesn't exist.
And "incidents" mostly means things that are basically rude and annoying. Democrats chase people out of restaurants, you've committed way more than 2,150 incidents of harassment to Trump supporters in your hate and intolerance
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I know. You keep saying that "everyone" knows this or that, but yet we can find many examples of idiots who don't get that.The ones with zero evidence Trump's words caused them?
So you acknowledge that Asian Americans were harassed and discriminated against because of the virus?
Of course not. They were nuts before the virus. You really have no connections. You can't link the term China virus to the incidents, you can't link the incidents to a party, you are just making it all up
Calling it the China virus is stoking the flames. That’s why the medical community recommends against it. Trump chooses to ignore it, then he’s going to be held responsible for his choice.
Complete political correctness and a load of crap. Everyone knows that "China virus" refers to where it's from.
Endless fake rules like this are how the left strangle a culture
So sorry, but the facts betray your insistence. Honestly, what did you expect? Trump has been dumbing down his supporters to the point of turning them into children.
colfax: Prove me wrong!
Sure, Chuckie, it's my job to prove you wrong, not your job to prove you correct.
You made two completely unsupported claims;
1) Linking nuts screaming at Asians to Trump calling it the Chinese virus
2) Linking the nuts to the Republican party
You just assumed it. Like four of us have kept asking you for evidence, and you have none.
Yes, there are nuts out there, no one disagrees with that. But you made more claims than that and have proven NOTHING. And no, prove you wrong is bull shit. Prove yourself right
Why shouldn't I assume it? It's exactly what we predicted would happen.
Another person who has no idea what Marxism is.Thanks, arrogant ass. I'll give that all due consideration.
What's stupid is voting for a racist, Marxist like Biden
Oh, I missed this one. Anybody who calls Biden a Marxist doesn't know jack about shit. Doesn't even know what Marxism is.
BIDEN does not know. HE is under the influence of
persons LOGICALLY called Marxists (at lease THEY
THEMSELVES fancy themselves marxists)
Marxism is the ideology defined in the Communist Manifesto. The main principles of that are supported by the Democrat party and you
actually-----not entirely true, but almost. Marx did not present THE RACE CARD
I didn't say everything the Democrats do is Marxist, I said they support all the primary Marxist principles. Those are not equivalent statements
playtime
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35% of Americans appear to not mind that the "President" of the United States LIED to them about a burgeoning, deadly global pandemic as it was bearing down on the USA.
What bothers me is that this doesn't surprise me.
Two-third of Americans distrust Trump's COVID-19 response; say he acted too slowly to quell pandemic: POLL
This poll comes days after a new book by journalist Bob Woodward revealed that the president deliberately played down the pandemic.abc7ny.com
that 35% are his 'base' that never changed & never will. they are the poorly educated, die hard trump humping deplorable basket dwellers that would rather see this country burn to the ground than admit they were duped by a fraud.
they are a lost cause & hopefully enough real (R)s & those who didn't vote the last time will help get the mango mad man out.
Sure, it's just a total coincidence that they noticed a rash of discrimination against Asians just at the same time that Trump has been harping on China relentlessly.No, it isn’t. it is your wishful thinking because you lack any evidence.
Next?
You're not that stupid, you just can't acknowledge you're wrong.
Stupid is anyone who thinks "Chinese virus" refers to Chinese Americans. You know, you
that would be the trump humping MAGATs parroting donny.
Playtime goes playground. No I'm not, YOU are! Bam! You are, dance dance. I'm not, you are!
Grow up
And yet, you have shown zero evidence of anyone doing anything because Trump called it the China virus.Sure, it's just a total coincidence that they noticed a rash of discrimination against Asians just at the same time that Trump has been harping on China relentlessly.No, it isn’t. it is your wishful thinking because you lack any evidence.Your link provides ZERO EVIDENCE those acts were caused by calling it the Chinese virus.I would like for colfax_m to tell us what part of Trump’s Kung Flu response was “xenophobic”, if it wasn’t the travel bans.Is that the reality where Trump claimed in the spring that COVID is no big deal, the Democrats are using it for a hoax, it’s going to disappear and it’s totally under control?How can I change your mind? We’d have to live in the same reality first.There is nothing that can be said to many Trump supporters to change their minds. They are so encapsulated in Trump’s world, it would break their brains to come to terms with reality.what I dont get is why are dems trying so hard to get trump re-elected???dont change the subject,,,why do you attack him for everything he does???As I have written Trump lied and people died. It is as clear as day now that he was lying the whole time he was downplaying Covid. The two-faced President was telling Woodward just how dangerous it was while telling the people it will magically disappear.
How many people died because of Trump's lies. 20,000..50.,000..120,000?
Trump's apologists will make fools of themselves once arguing that Trump did not say or mean what he obviously said and meant.
Just when you think Trump has hit bottom..he once again proves us wrong by reaching even greater depths of depravity.
He is responsible for the deaths and the dying from this virus, and the economy.
Trump is also responsible for your acne and the mole in your back yard.
Cut the stupid shit. The Chinese are responsible for the people dying. Of course Joe didn't need to try to help them by undercutting the President while he tried to deal with it.
Now Joe's advertising his Biden virus plan ... to do what Trump is doing now ...
Why can’t you guys ever hold Trump responsible for anything?
he tried to keep the people calm,,,whats wrong about that???
Calm? Like he does at his hate rallies? Do you mean like that?
So not calm thank you.
Is that what you are doing in here? Trying to change minds? And to do that you hurl insults, and slurs at the people you disagree with to accomplish that? Hmmm....I actually think it would "break the brains" of liberals like yourself to admit that Trump has done anything positive....even though you know he has.
Actually if you just joined us in reality, that would do it
Or should I stay in the reality where COVID has killed hundreds of thousands, continues to kill about a thousand people per day and has caused trillions upon trillions of economic damage?
You mean the sring where Nancy was inviting people down to Chinatown, and Joe was calling the travel ban xenophobic, and fear mongering? That spring?
And due to the administrations actions the death toll from this virus is within CDC projected numbers...That's science.
But Biden never called the ban xenophobic and fear mongering and what was exactly was wrong with inviting people to Chinatown in February?
Colfax: But Biden never called the ban xenophobic and fear mongering
Fact check: Liar, liar pants on fire
Colfax: and what was exactly was wrong with inviting people to Chinatown in February?
Your hypocrisy of attacking Trump now for admitting he downplayed the Biden virus
Colfax: Biden never called the ban xenophobic and fear mongering
Kaz: Yes he did and I have proof.
Colfax: Can I see this proof?
Kaz: No! (Jumps out window)
You are really bad at making a compelling case.
“Nakedly xenophobic”
Biden: Trump’s coronavirus response has been ‘nakedly xenophobic’
Former Vice President Joe Biden on Monday accused President Trump of “fanning the flames” of “hate, fear and xenophobia” against Asian Americans during the coronavirus outbreak.
Cant wait for your lame ass spin claiming he wasn’t talking about the travel ban.....or some other dumbassery.
GO!
Biden's words speak for themselves.
“The pandemic has unleashed familiar forces of hate, fear and xenophobia that he always flames … that have always existed in this society,” Biden said. “But this president brought it with him, has brought with it a new rash of racial messages, verbal and physical attacks and other acts of hate, some subtle, some overt, against the Asian American and Pacific Islanders.”
“We deserve better than a president who attacks the Speaker of the House for visiting a local Chinatown business in San Francisco. We deserve better than a president who aggressively and childishly insults Asian American reporter. Think of that, the president of the U.S. for the whole world to see, insults an Asian American reporter in the Rose Garden for doing her job and asking a direct question. You deserve a partner and a friend in the White House.”
He said exactly what he means and nothing in his comments referred to the travel ban.
Thank you for providing an article that contradicts what you want me to believe. It's far easier this way. Perhaps you should have read it.
LOL, just as I predicted in the last post.
colfax: Biden's comments about the travel ban weren't referring to the travel ban.
Thank you, Mr. Doublespeak
It’s in Biden’s comments, which if you read, you wouldn’t have to ask.
Calling it the China virus stigmatized Asian Americans who were discriminated against as a result.
Thats the best ya got?
Link us up to all this discrimination due to calling it the China Virus.
GO!
It's a trivial google search:
Amid COVID-19 Pandemic, Asian Americans Facing Discrimination
While many communities across the country celebrate Asian and Pacific Islander American Heritage Month this May, a growing number of Asian Americans fear for their safety, saying they’ve become targets of COVID-19-related discrimination. Since the coronavirus pandemic began, there have been...
Try again.
It's common sense that his relentless attacks on China as responsible for the coronavirus are going to have collateral damage.
Don't be a ignorant.
Next?
You're not that stupid, you just can't acknowledge you're wrong.
Stupid is anyone who thinks "Chinese virus" refers to Chinese Americans. You know, you
I absolutely agree with you that stupid is anyone who thinks Chinese virus refers to Chinese Americans.
Problem is that Trump has a LOT of stupid supporters out there. Trump knows it too.
Keep digging.
at least 2000 reported cases.
2,120 hate incidents against Asian Americans reported during coronavirus pandemic
OMG, it includes online harassment. Talk about a fabricated statistic.
Most people had to stop wearing MAGA hats because of leftist hate, threats and intimidation. 2150 is a drop in the bucket to you people
I have done no such thing. You aren’t being honest.. He is constantly using the argument that to disagree with him is racist, which is in my view flagrantly racist.
It's your whole shtick, man boy
playtime
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from your link..And yet, you have shown zero evidence of anyone doing anything because Trump called it the China virus.Sure, it's just a total coincidence that they noticed a rash of discrimination against Asians just at the same time that Trump has been harping on China relentlessly.No, it isn’t. it is your wishful thinking because you lack any evidence.Your link provides ZERO EVIDENCE those acts were caused by calling it the Chinese virus.I would like for colfax_m to tell us what part of Trump’s Kung Flu response was “xenophobic”, if it wasn’t the travel bans.Is that the reality where Trump claimed in the spring that COVID is no big deal, the Democrats are using it for a hoax, it’s going to disappear and it’s totally under control?How can I change your mind? We’d have to live in the same reality first.There is nothing that can be said to many Trump supporters to change their minds. They are so encapsulated in Trump’s world, it would break their brains to come to terms with reality.what I dont get is why are dems trying so hard to get trump re-elected???dont change the subject,,,why do you attack him for everything he does???As I have written Trump lied and people died. It is as clear as day now that he was lying the whole time he was downplaying Covid. The two-faced President was telling Woodward just how dangerous it was while telling the people it will magically disappear.
How many people died because of Trump's lies. 20,000..50.,000..120,000?
Trump's apologists will make fools of themselves once arguing that Trump did not say or mean what he obviously said and meant.
Just when you think Trump has hit bottom..he once again proves us wrong by reaching even greater depths of depravity.
He is responsible for the deaths and the dying from this virus, and the economy.
Trump is also responsible for your acne and the mole in your back yard.
Cut the stupid shit. The Chinese are responsible for the people dying. Of course Joe didn't need to try to help them by undercutting the President while he tried to deal with it.
Now Joe's advertising his Biden virus plan ... to do what Trump is doing now ...
Why can’t you guys ever hold Trump responsible for anything?
he tried to keep the people calm,,,whats wrong about that???
Calm? Like he does at his hate rallies? Do you mean like that?
So not calm thank you.
Is that what you are doing in here? Trying to change minds? And to do that you hurl insults, and slurs at the people you disagree with to accomplish that? Hmmm....I actually think it would "break the brains" of liberals like yourself to admit that Trump has done anything positive....even though you know he has.
Actually if you just joined us in reality, that would do it
Or should I stay in the reality where COVID has killed hundreds of thousands, continues to kill about a thousand people per day and has caused trillions upon trillions of economic damage?
You mean the sring where Nancy was inviting people down to Chinatown, and Joe was calling the travel ban xenophobic, and fear mongering? That spring?
And due to the administrations actions the death toll from this virus is within CDC projected numbers...That's science.
But Biden never called the ban xenophobic and fear mongering and what was exactly was wrong with inviting people to Chinatown in February?
Colfax: But Biden never called the ban xenophobic and fear mongering
Fact check: Liar, liar pants on fire
Colfax: and what was exactly was wrong with inviting people to Chinatown in February?
Your hypocrisy of attacking Trump now for admitting he downplayed the Biden virus
Colfax: Biden never called the ban xenophobic and fear mongering
Kaz: Yes he did and I have proof.
Colfax: Can I see this proof?
Kaz: No! (Jumps out window)
You are really bad at making a compelling case.
“Nakedly xenophobic”
Biden: Trump’s coronavirus response has been ‘nakedly xenophobic’
Former Vice President Joe Biden on Monday accused President Trump of “fanning the flames” of “hate, fear and xenophobia” against Asian Americans during the coronavirus outbreak.
Cant wait for your lame ass spin claiming he wasn’t talking about the travel ban.....or some other dumbassery.
GO!
Biden's words speak for themselves.
“The pandemic has unleashed familiar forces of hate, fear and xenophobia that he always flames … that have always existed in this society,” Biden said. “But this president brought it with him, has brought with it a new rash of racial messages, verbal and physical attacks and other acts of hate, some subtle, some overt, against the Asian American and Pacific Islanders.”
“We deserve better than a president who attacks the Speaker of the House for visiting a local Chinatown business in San Francisco. We deserve better than a president who aggressively and childishly insults Asian American reporter. Think of that, the president of the U.S. for the whole world to see, insults an Asian American reporter in the Rose Garden for doing her job and asking a direct question. You deserve a partner and a friend in the White House.”
He said exactly what he means and nothing in his comments referred to the travel ban.
Thank you for providing an article that contradicts what you want me to believe. It's far easier this way. Perhaps you should have read it.
LOL, just as I predicted in the last post.
colfax: Biden's comments about the travel ban weren't referring to the travel ban.
Thank you, Mr. Doublespeak
It’s in Biden’s comments, which if you read, you wouldn’t have to ask.
Calling it the China virus stigmatized Asian Americans who were discriminated against as a result.
Thats the best ya got?
Link us up to all this discrimination due to calling it the China Virus.
GO!
It's a trivial google search:
Amid COVID-19 Pandemic, Asian Americans Facing Discrimination
While many communities across the country celebrate Asian and Pacific Islander American Heritage Month this May, a growing number of Asian Americans fear for their safety, saying they’ve become targets of COVID-19-related discrimination. Since the coronavirus pandemic began, there have been...
Try again.
It's common sense that his relentless attacks on China as responsible for the coronavirus are going to have collateral damage.
Don't be a ignorant.
Next?
You're not that stupid, you just can't acknowledge you're wrong.
Stupid is anyone who thinks "Chinese virus" refers to Chinese Americans. You know, you
I absolutely agree with you that stupid is anyone who thinks Chinese virus refers to Chinese Americans.
Problem is that Trump has a LOT of stupid supporters out there. Trump knows it too.
Keep digging.
at least 2000 reported cases.
2,120 hate incidents against Asian Americans reported during coronavirus pandemic
according to advocacy groups that compile the data.
what group might that be? what kind of bullshit is all I say. BULLSHIT
Advocacy group LOL.
BTW, you hate me cause I'm white!!!! there's that. so you have no ground to stand on .
i don't hate you.
i pity you.
Yes, I know. This is straight from your Trump cult programming. I’ve heard it a million times from you drones. This is why you’re unreachable. You will never listen to any criticism of Trump. He is perfect.No, Trump has spent a lot of time using fake accusations and innuendo to coddle irrational and misplaced hatred as a way to deflect from his own failing.President Trump is not "stoking anger". He is stating facts. People who get angry are responsible for their anger. Are you guilty of that? One could easily come to that conclusionAnger that is stoked by Trump.I can't keep up with your warped mind putting words in my mouth.So you can't keep up with your own bullshit.No post of mine said any such thing. You’re putting words in my mouth. Getting desperate?From your post. Can you not keep up with your own bullshit?Uh, no. I did not assume an entire race belongs to one country. Where the hell did you get that impression?You assume an entire race belongs to ONE country. You are either a racist, or dumber than a box of retarded toenail clippings.Okay. Please explain how that makes me a racist?That makes you a racist.This isn’t complicated if you just use your brain. I don’t know why to have to explain simple concepts to supposed intelligent adults.Trump called it the CHINA virus, not the ASIAN virus, Fuckwit.Asian is, silly. What race do you think the Chinese are?Chinese isn't a race, Dumbfuck.Close. The medical community says that calling it the Chinese virus can result in stigmatization and harassment of Asians, so they don’t do it.You're an idiot. No one thinks Chinese virus means Chinese Americans other than a few nuts who are nuts anyway. And they are nuts, there was no link to party.
You also committed a causal fallacy on the timing argument. Something happening then another does not prove causation. Duh
I’ll side with the medical community on this one and not some random Trump cultist.
The "medical community" said that harassment of Chinese was because Trump called it the Chinese virus? That's stupid, even for you
Trump does it anyway. Asians are stigmatized and harassed.
When we talk about xenophobia and racism, this is what we are talking about.
You really are dumber than a box of retarded hammers.
Asian people are harassed because people assume or believe they’re Chinese.
Which is it?
I never said what you're accusing me of saying. But I am saying that racists don't really take the time to worry whether the person they're harassing is Chinese, Korean, Japanese or any other Asian nationality. They will take their anger out on anyone who fits the description.
Anger that is stoked by Trump.
Once again, I must ask you for the evidence you can't produce.............just for fun.
Have you been living in a cave? Trump has been harping on China constantly about coronavirus. He is stoking anger.
You just hate Trump and will always make the case against him despite the facts. Once you declared your completely biased hatred to the man, you gave up your right to have credibility with using just your opinion against him as you did here
Challenge accepted. I'll say things I don't like about Trump and you say things you like about him.
1) I totally oppose farm subsidies
2) I want him to LEAVE Iraq and Afghanistan fully (and the entire middle east)
3) I'm pro-choice
4) His signing the spending bills he did before the covid was pathetic. He signed massive deficit budgets then said he wouldn't do that anymore as if that explained why he did it the first time
OK, so let's start with four. Your turn
and he appears demonstrating what he claims he doesn't do. the irony.Yes, I know. This is straight from your Trump cult programming. I’ve heard it a million times from you drones. This is why you’re unreachable. You will never listen to any criticism of Trump. He is perfect.
Yes. I don't like a lot of things about Trump. But colfax not only hates Trump but attacks him for both sides of the same issues at the same time. Then says we can't evaluate it fairly like him. He's a total Democrat dup. His head was hollowed out and it's being used for surplus parking
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I wonder if liberals realize that this "secret tape" they think they are hearing was Trump going on the record with Woodward. He knew he was being recorded. You think Trump would say something that would be that bad if he knew he was being recorded? Of course not.
from your link..And yet, you have shown zero evidence of anyone doing anything because Trump called it the China virus.Sure, it's just a total coincidence that they noticed a rash of discrimination against Asians just at the same time that Trump has been harping on China relentlessly.No, it isn’t. it is your wishful thinking because you lack any evidence.Your link provides ZERO EVIDENCE those acts were caused by calling it the Chinese virus.I would like for colfax_m to tell us what part of Trump’s Kung Flu response was “xenophobic”, if it wasn’t the travel bans.Is that the reality where Trump claimed in the spring that COVID is no big deal, the Democrats are using it for a hoax, it’s going to disappear and it’s totally under control?How can I change your mind? We’d have to live in the same reality first.There is nothing that can be said to many Trump supporters to change their minds. They are so encapsulated in Trump’s world, it would break their brains to come to terms with reality.what I dont get is why are dems trying so hard to get trump re-elected???dont change the subject,,,why do you attack him for everything he does???As I have written Trump lied and people died. It is as clear as day now that he was lying the whole time he was downplaying Covid. The two-faced President was telling Woodward just how dangerous it was while telling the people it will magically disappear.
How many people died because of Trump's lies. 20,000..50.,000..120,000?
Trump's apologists will make fools of themselves once arguing that Trump did not say or mean what he obviously said and meant.
Just when you think Trump has hit bottom..he once again proves us wrong by reaching even greater depths of depravity.
He is responsible for the deaths and the dying from this virus, and the economy.
Trump is also responsible for your acne and the mole in your back yard.
Cut the stupid shit. The Chinese are responsible for the people dying. Of course Joe didn't need to try to help them by undercutting the President while he tried to deal with it.
Now Joe's advertising his Biden virus plan ... to do what Trump is doing now ...
Why can’t you guys ever hold Trump responsible for anything?
he tried to keep the people calm,,,whats wrong about that???
Calm? Like he does at his hate rallies? Do you mean like that?
So not calm thank you.
Is that what you are doing in here? Trying to change minds? And to do that you hurl insults, and slurs at the people you disagree with to accomplish that? Hmmm....I actually think it would "break the brains" of liberals like yourself to admit that Trump has done anything positive....even though you know he has.
Actually if you just joined us in reality, that would do it
Or should I stay in the reality where COVID has killed hundreds of thousands, continues to kill about a thousand people per day and has caused trillions upon trillions of economic damage?
You mean the sring where Nancy was inviting people down to Chinatown, and Joe was calling the travel ban xenophobic, and fear mongering? That spring?
And due to the administrations actions the death toll from this virus is within CDC projected numbers...That's science.
But Biden never called the ban xenophobic and fear mongering and what was exactly was wrong with inviting people to Chinatown in February?
Colfax: But Biden never called the ban xenophobic and fear mongering
Fact check: Liar, liar pants on fire
Colfax: and what was exactly was wrong with inviting people to Chinatown in February?
Your hypocrisy of attacking Trump now for admitting he downplayed the Biden virus
Colfax: Biden never called the ban xenophobic and fear mongering
Kaz: Yes he did and I have proof.
Colfax: Can I see this proof?
Kaz: No! (Jumps out window)
You are really bad at making a compelling case.
“Nakedly xenophobic”
Biden: Trump’s coronavirus response has been ‘nakedly xenophobic’
Former Vice President Joe Biden on Monday accused President Trump of “fanning the flames” of “hate, fear and xenophobia” against Asian Americans during the coronavirus outbreak.
Cant wait for your lame ass spin claiming he wasn’t talking about the travel ban.....or some other dumbassery.
GO!
Biden's words speak for themselves.
“The pandemic has unleashed familiar forces of hate, fear and xenophobia that he always flames … that have always existed in this society,” Biden said. “But this president brought it with him, has brought with it a new rash of racial messages, verbal and physical attacks and other acts of hate, some subtle, some overt, against the Asian American and Pacific Islanders.”
“We deserve better than a president who attacks the Speaker of the House for visiting a local Chinatown business in San Francisco. We deserve better than a president who aggressively and childishly insults Asian American reporter. Think of that, the president of the U.S. for the whole world to see, insults an Asian American reporter in the Rose Garden for doing her job and asking a direct question. You deserve a partner and a friend in the White House.”
He said exactly what he means and nothing in his comments referred to the travel ban.
Thank you for providing an article that contradicts what you want me to believe. It's far easier this way. Perhaps you should have read it.
LOL, just as I predicted in the last post.
colfax: Biden's comments about the travel ban weren't referring to the travel ban.
Thank you, Mr. Doublespeak
It’s in Biden’s comments, which if you read, you wouldn’t have to ask.
Calling it the China virus stigmatized Asian Americans who were discriminated against as a result.
Thats the best ya got?
Link us up to all this discrimination due to calling it the China Virus.
GO!
It's a trivial google search:
Amid COVID-19 Pandemic, Asian Americans Facing Discrimination
While many communities across the country celebrate Asian and Pacific Islander American Heritage Month this May, a growing number of Asian Americans fear for their safety, saying they’ve become targets of COVID-19-related discrimination. Since the coronavirus pandemic began, there have been...
Try again.
It's common sense that his relentless attacks on China as responsible for the coronavirus are going to have collateral damage.
Don't be a ignorant.
Next?
You're not that stupid, you just can't acknowledge you're wrong.
Stupid is anyone who thinks "Chinese virus" refers to Chinese Americans. You know, you
I absolutely agree with you that stupid is anyone who thinks Chinese virus refers to Chinese Americans.
Problem is that Trump has a LOT of stupid supporters out there. Trump knows it too.
Keep digging.
at least 2000 reported cases.
2,120 hate incidents against Asian Americans reported during coronavirus pandemic
according to advocacy groups that compile the data.
what group might that be? what kind of bullshit is all I say. BULLSHIT
Advocacy group LOL.
BTW, you hate me cause I'm white!!!! there's that. so you have no ground to stand on .
i don't hate you.
i pity you.
Captain Condescending!
Take the ego down a coupla notches, toots
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why does it bother you what others want to do? nobody invited you. what a burden it must be to worry about 330 million people and their activity. BTW, who died and left you that burden?
'Play it down': Trump admits to concealing the true threat of coronavirus in new Woodward book
President Donald Trump admitted he knew weeks before the first confirmed US coronavirus death that the virus was dangerous, airborne, highly contagious and "more deadly than even your strenuous flus," and that he repeatedly played it down publicly, according to legendary journalist Bob Woodward...www.cnn.com
There is nothing left to be said.
Oh, there certainly is. President TRump was correct to down play the Chinese Covid-19 Virus in an attempt to avert the panic that did occur when the extent of the Chinese Wuhan Covid-19 virus was announced....
Obviously you were able to find toilet paper, bleach, antiseptics, masks and other vital items on the empty shelves of graocery stores, and Wally World.
Coronavirus panic buying causing ripple effects for businesses, families
Many say that the panic buying has left a lot of families in difficult and sometimes dangerous situations.www.deseret.com
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Coronavirus panic shopping hits U.S. stores as Americans stock up on sanitizer, wipes and toilet paper
Americans across the country are stocking up on hand sanitizer, cleaning wipes, toilet paper and other products to prepare for the spread of coronavirus. Long lines at stores and panic buying …ktla.com
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COVID-19 Global Roundup: Panic buying in severely hit countries
Consumers around the world have reported supermarket shelves are emptied of items such as toilet paper, antibacterial handwash and sanitary items in the midst of coronavirus fears.news.cgtn.com
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Coronavirus: Why People Are in a Panic to Buy Toilet Paper
Social media has been flooded with images from across the world of shopping carts lined up at check outs, empty shelves, and crazed shoppers carrying six months’ worth of toilet paper.www.snopes.com
what was his excuse since? what is his excuse NOW -
not encouraging the use of masks as the experts say will cut down transmission up to 75%?
holding an indoor rally & openly defying the state of nevada's mandated ban of gatherings of more than 50 people?
donny - ' the law & order ' prez is in di-rect violation.
c'mon - let's hear the rw nutter spin machine!
well - since all the deplorables who attended, a good amt will get infected & then go home to spread their covid cooties around...
duh duh duh.
that motorcycle rally & the poorly educated who attended a couple weeks ago have resulted in 250,000 cases.
soooooooooooooooooo............ in about 2 weeks from now, cases from the rally will start to get reported.
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I know. You keep saying that "everyone" knows this or that, but yet we can find many examples of idiots who don't get that.The ones with zero evidence Trump's words caused them?
So you acknowledge that Asian Americans were harassed and discriminated against because of the virus?
Of course not. They were nuts before the virus. You really have no connections. You can't link the term China virus to the incidents, you can't link the incidents to a party, you are just making it all up
Calling it the China virus is stoking the flames. That’s why the medical community recommends against it. Trump chooses to ignore it, then he’s going to be held responsible for his choice.
Complete political correctness and a load of crap. Everyone knows that "China virus" refers to where it's from.
Endless fake rules like this are how the left strangle a culture
So sorry, but the facts betray your insistence. Honestly, what did you expect? Trump has been dumbing down his supporters to the point of turning them into children.
colfax: Prove me wrong!
Sure, Chuckie, it's my job to prove you wrong, not your job to prove you correct.
You made two completely unsupported claims;
1) Linking nuts screaming at Asians to Trump calling it the Chinese virus
2) Linking the nuts to the Republican party
You just assumed it. Like four of us have kept asking you for evidence, and you have none.
Yes, there are nuts out there, no one disagrees with that. But you made more claims than that and have proven NOTHING. And no, prove you wrong is bull shit. Prove yourself right
Why shouldn't I assume it? It's exactly what we predicted would happen.
Causation fallacy.
OK then, here's something else you haven't proven. Those incidents are an increase from normal rates. 2,150 incidents nationally? That's tiny. Show it's a dramatic increase.
That would have been an obvious question to you if you weren't a Democrat drone totally unable to think for yourself
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And yet, you have shown zero evidence of anyone doing anything because Trump called it the China virus.Sure, it's just a total coincidence that they noticed a rash of discrimination against Asians just at the same time that Trump has been harping on China relentlessly.No, it isn’t. it is your wishful thinking because you lack any evidence.Your link provides ZERO EVIDENCE those acts were caused by calling it the Chinese virus.I would like for colfax_m to tell us what part of Trump’s Kung Flu response was “xenophobic”, if it wasn’t the travel bans.Is that the reality where Trump claimed in the spring that COVID is no big deal, the Democrats are using it for a hoax, it’s going to disappear and it’s totally under control?How can I change your mind? We’d have to live in the same reality first.There is nothing that can be said to many Trump supporters to change their minds. They are so encapsulated in Trump’s world, it would break their brains to come to terms with reality.what I dont get is why are dems trying so hard to get trump re-elected???dont change the subject,,,why do you attack him for everything he does???As I have written Trump lied and people died. It is as clear as day now that he was lying the whole time he was downplaying Covid. The two-faced President was telling Woodward just how dangerous it was while telling the people it will magically disappear.
How many people died because of Trump's lies. 20,000..50.,000..120,000?
Trump's apologists will make fools of themselves once arguing that Trump did not say or mean what he obviously said and meant.
Just when you think Trump has hit bottom..he once again proves us wrong by reaching even greater depths of depravity.
He is responsible for the deaths and the dying from this virus, and the economy.
Trump is also responsible for your acne and the mole in your back yard.
Cut the stupid shit. The Chinese are responsible for the people dying. Of course Joe didn't need to try to help them by undercutting the President while he tried to deal with it.
Now Joe's advertising his Biden virus plan ... to do what Trump is doing now ...
Why can’t you guys ever hold Trump responsible for anything?
he tried to keep the people calm,,,whats wrong about that???
Calm? Like he does at his hate rallies? Do you mean like that?
So not calm thank you.
Is that what you are doing in here? Trying to change minds? And to do that you hurl insults, and slurs at the people you disagree with to accomplish that? Hmmm....I actually think it would "break the brains" of liberals like yourself to admit that Trump has done anything positive....even though you know he has.
Actually if you just joined us in reality, that would do it
Or should I stay in the reality where COVID has killed hundreds of thousands, continues to kill about a thousand people per day and has caused trillions upon trillions of economic damage?
You mean the sring where Nancy was inviting people down to Chinatown, and Joe was calling the travel ban xenophobic, and fear mongering? That spring?
And due to the administrations actions the death toll from this virus is within CDC projected numbers...That's science.
But Biden never called the ban xenophobic and fear mongering and what was exactly was wrong with inviting people to Chinatown in February?
Colfax: But Biden never called the ban xenophobic and fear mongering
Fact check: Liar, liar pants on fire
Colfax: and what was exactly was wrong with inviting people to Chinatown in February?
Your hypocrisy of attacking Trump now for admitting he downplayed the Biden virus
Colfax: Biden never called the ban xenophobic and fear mongering
Kaz: Yes he did and I have proof.
Colfax: Can I see this proof?
Kaz: No! (Jumps out window)
You are really bad at making a compelling case.
“Nakedly xenophobic”
Biden: Trump’s coronavirus response has been ‘nakedly xenophobic’
Former Vice President Joe Biden on Monday accused President Trump of “fanning the flames” of “hate, fear and xenophobia” against Asian Americans during the coronavirus outbreak.
Cant wait for your lame ass spin claiming he wasn’t talking about the travel ban.....or some other dumbassery.
GO!
Biden's words speak for themselves.
“The pandemic has unleashed familiar forces of hate, fear and xenophobia that he always flames … that have always existed in this society,” Biden said. “But this president brought it with him, has brought with it a new rash of racial messages, verbal and physical attacks and other acts of hate, some subtle, some overt, against the Asian American and Pacific Islanders.”
“We deserve better than a president who attacks the Speaker of the House for visiting a local Chinatown business in San Francisco. We deserve better than a president who aggressively and childishly insults Asian American reporter. Think of that, the president of the U.S. for the whole world to see, insults an Asian American reporter in the Rose Garden for doing her job and asking a direct question. You deserve a partner and a friend in the White House.”
He said exactly what he means and nothing in his comments referred to the travel ban.
Thank you for providing an article that contradicts what you want me to believe. It's far easier this way. Perhaps you should have read it.
LOL, just as I predicted in the last post.
colfax: Biden's comments about the travel ban weren't referring to the travel ban.
Thank you, Mr. Doublespeak
It’s in Biden’s comments, which if you read, you wouldn’t have to ask.
Calling it the China virus stigmatized Asian Americans who were discriminated against as a result.
Thats the best ya got?
Link us up to all this discrimination due to calling it the China Virus.
GO!
It's a trivial google search:
Amid COVID-19 Pandemic, Asian Americans Facing Discrimination
While many communities across the country celebrate Asian and Pacific Islander American Heritage Month this May, a growing number of Asian Americans fear for their safety, saying they’ve become targets of COVID-19-related discrimination. Since the coronavirus pandemic began, there have been...
Try again.
It's common sense that his relentless attacks on China as responsible for the coronavirus are going to have collateral damage.
Don't be a ignorant.
Next?
You're not that stupid, you just can't acknowledge you're wrong.
Stupid is anyone who thinks "Chinese virus" refers to Chinese Americans. You know, you
I absolutely agree with you that stupid is anyone who thinks Chinese virus refers to Chinese Americans.
Problem is that Trump has a LOT of stupid supporters out there. Trump knows it too.
Keep digging.
at least 2000 reported cases.
2,120 hate incidents against Asian Americans reported during coronavirus pandemic
OMG, it includes online harassment. Talk about a fabricated statistic.
Most people had to stop wearing MAGA hats because of leftist hate, threats and intimidation. 2150 is a drop in the bucket to you people
the link within the link:
http://www.asianpacificpolicyandpla...ploads/Anti-China_Rhetoric_Report_6_17_20.pdf
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from your link..And yet, you have shown zero evidence of anyone doing anything because Trump called it the China virus.Sure, it's just a total coincidence that they noticed a rash of discrimination against Asians just at the same time that Trump has been harping on China relentlessly.No, it isn’t. it is your wishful thinking because you lack any evidence.Your link provides ZERO EVIDENCE those acts were caused by calling it the Chinese virus.I would like for colfax_m to tell us what part of Trump’s Kung Flu response was “xenophobic”, if it wasn’t the travel bans.Is that the reality where Trump claimed in the spring that COVID is no big deal, the Democrats are using it for a hoax, it’s going to disappear and it’s totally under control?How can I change your mind? We’d have to live in the same reality first.There is nothing that can be said to many Trump supporters to change their minds. They are so encapsulated in Trump’s world, it would break their brains to come to terms with reality.what I dont get is why are dems trying so hard to get trump re-elected???dont change the subject,,,why do you attack him for everything he does???As I have written Trump lied and people died. It is as clear as day now that he was lying the whole time he was downplaying Covid. The two-faced President was telling Woodward just how dangerous it was while telling the people it will magically disappear.
How many people died because of Trump's lies. 20,000..50.,000..120,000?
Trump's apologists will make fools of themselves once arguing that Trump did not say or mean what he obviously said and meant.
Just when you think Trump has hit bottom..he once again proves us wrong by reaching even greater depths of depravity.
He is responsible for the deaths and the dying from this virus, and the economy.
Trump is also responsible for your acne and the mole in your back yard.
Cut the stupid shit. The Chinese are responsible for the people dying. Of course Joe didn't need to try to help them by undercutting the President while he tried to deal with it.
Now Joe's advertising his Biden virus plan ... to do what Trump is doing now ...
Why can’t you guys ever hold Trump responsible for anything?
he tried to keep the people calm,,,whats wrong about that???
Calm? Like he does at his hate rallies? Do you mean like that?
So not calm thank you.
Is that what you are doing in here? Trying to change minds? And to do that you hurl insults, and slurs at the people you disagree with to accomplish that? Hmmm....I actually think it would "break the brains" of liberals like yourself to admit that Trump has done anything positive....even though you know he has.
Actually if you just joined us in reality, that would do it
Or should I stay in the reality where COVID has killed hundreds of thousands, continues to kill about a thousand people per day and has caused trillions upon trillions of economic damage?
You mean the sring where Nancy was inviting people down to Chinatown, and Joe was calling the travel ban xenophobic, and fear mongering? That spring?
And due to the administrations actions the death toll from this virus is within CDC projected numbers...That's science.
But Biden never called the ban xenophobic and fear mongering and what was exactly was wrong with inviting people to Chinatown in February?
Colfax: But Biden never called the ban xenophobic and fear mongering
Fact check: Liar, liar pants on fire
Colfax: and what was exactly was wrong with inviting people to Chinatown in February?
Your hypocrisy of attacking Trump now for admitting he downplayed the Biden virus
Colfax: Biden never called the ban xenophobic and fear mongering
Kaz: Yes he did and I have proof.
Colfax: Can I see this proof?
Kaz: No! (Jumps out window)
You are really bad at making a compelling case.
“Nakedly xenophobic”
Biden: Trump’s coronavirus response has been ‘nakedly xenophobic’
Former Vice President Joe Biden on Monday accused President Trump of “fanning the flames” of “hate, fear and xenophobia” against Asian Americans during the coronavirus outbreak.
Cant wait for your lame ass spin claiming he wasn’t talking about the travel ban.....or some other dumbassery.
GO!
Biden's words speak for themselves.
“The pandemic has unleashed familiar forces of hate, fear and xenophobia that he always flames … that have always existed in this society,” Biden said. “But this president brought it with him, has brought with it a new rash of racial messages, verbal and physical attacks and other acts of hate, some subtle, some overt, against the Asian American and Pacific Islanders.”
“We deserve better than a president who attacks the Speaker of the House for visiting a local Chinatown business in San Francisco. We deserve better than a president who aggressively and childishly insults Asian American reporter. Think of that, the president of the U.S. for the whole world to see, insults an Asian American reporter in the Rose Garden for doing her job and asking a direct question. You deserve a partner and a friend in the White House.”
He said exactly what he means and nothing in his comments referred to the travel ban.
Thank you for providing an article that contradicts what you want me to believe. It's far easier this way. Perhaps you should have read it.
LOL, just as I predicted in the last post.
colfax: Biden's comments about the travel ban weren't referring to the travel ban.
Thank you, Mr. Doublespeak
It’s in Biden’s comments, which if you read, you wouldn’t have to ask.
Calling it the China virus stigmatized Asian Americans who were discriminated against as a result.
Thats the best ya got?
Link us up to all this discrimination due to calling it the China Virus.
GO!
It's a trivial google search:
Amid COVID-19 Pandemic, Asian Americans Facing Discrimination
While many communities across the country celebrate Asian and Pacific Islander American Heritage Month this May, a growing number of Asian Americans fear for their safety, saying they’ve become targets of COVID-19-related discrimination. Since the coronavirus pandemic began, there have been...
Try again.
It's common sense that his relentless attacks on China as responsible for the coronavirus are going to have collateral damage.
Don't be a ignorant.
Next?
You're not that stupid, you just can't acknowledge you're wrong.
Stupid is anyone who thinks "Chinese virus" refers to Chinese Americans. You know, you
I absolutely agree with you that stupid is anyone who thinks Chinese virus refers to Chinese Americans.
Problem is that Trump has a LOT of stupid supporters out there. Trump knows it too.
Keep digging.
at least 2000 reported cases.
2,120 hate incidents against Asian Americans reported during coronavirus pandemic
according to advocacy groups that compile the data.
what group might that be? what kind of bullshit is all I say. BULLSHIT
Advocacy group LOL.
BTW, you hate me cause I'm white!!!! there's that. so you have no ground to stand on .
i don't hate you.
i pity you.
Captain Condescending!
Take the ego down a coupla notches, toots
' it is what it is '
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Yes, I know. This is straight from your Trump cult programming. I’ve heard it a million times from you drones. This is why you’re unreachable. You will never listen to any criticism of Trump. He is perfect.No, Trump has spent a lot of time using fake accusations and innuendo to coddle irrational and misplaced hatred as a way to deflect from his own failing.President Trump is not "stoking anger". He is stating facts. People who get angry are responsible for their anger. Are you guilty of that? One could easily come to that conclusionAnger that is stoked by Trump.I can't keep up with your warped mind putting words in my mouth.So you can't keep up with your own bullshit.No post of mine said any such thing. You’re putting words in my mouth. Getting desperate?From your post. Can you not keep up with your own bullshit?Uh, no. I did not assume an entire race belongs to one country. Where the hell did you get that impression?You assume an entire race belongs to ONE country. You are either a racist, or dumber than a box of retarded toenail clippings.Okay. Please explain how that makes me a racist?That makes you a racist.This isn’t complicated if you just use your brain. I don’t know why to have to explain simple concepts to supposed intelligent adults.Trump called it the CHINA virus, not the ASIAN virus, Fuckwit.Asian is, silly. What race do you think the Chinese are?Chinese isn't a race, Dumbfuck.Close. The medical community says that calling it the Chinese virus can result in stigmatization and harassment of Asians, so they don’t do it.You're an idiot. No one thinks Chinese virus means Chinese Americans other than a few nuts who are nuts anyway. And they are nuts, there was no link to party.
You also committed a causal fallacy on the timing argument. Something happening then another does not prove causation. Duh
I’ll side with the medical community on this one and not some random Trump cultist.
The "medical community" said that harassment of Chinese was because Trump called it the Chinese virus? That's stupid, even for you
Trump does it anyway. Asians are stigmatized and harassed.
When we talk about xenophobia and racism, this is what we are talking about.
You really are dumber than a box of retarded hammers.
Asian people are harassed because people assume or believe they’re Chinese.
Which is it?
I never said what you're accusing me of saying. But I am saying that racists don't really take the time to worry whether the person they're harassing is Chinese, Korean, Japanese or any other Asian nationality. They will take their anger out on anyone who fits the description.
Anger that is stoked by Trump.
Once again, I must ask you for the evidence you can't produce.............just for fun.
Have you been living in a cave? Trump has been harping on China constantly about coronavirus. He is stoking anger.
You just hate Trump and will always make the case against him despite the facts. Once you declared your completely biased hatred to the man, you gave up your right to have credibility with using just your opinion against him as you did here
Challenge accepted. I'll say things I don't like about Trump and you say things you like about him.
1) I totally oppose farm subsidies
2) I want him to LEAVE Iraq and Afghanistan fully (and the entire middle east)
3) I'm pro-choice
4) His signing the spending bills he did before the covid was pathetic. He signed massive deficit budgets then said he wouldn't do that anymore as if that explained why he did it the first time
OK, so let's start with four. Your turn
The UAE Israel peace deal is a good step.
First step act was good.
Negotiating with Taliban, not a good thing, but in the circumstances is the right thing to do.
His administration is getting more aggressive about fighting HIV in some poor areas of the country.
By the way, we are so far away from the actual topic here. Your claim was that Biden spoke out against the travel ban, an assertion which is never given evidence for. I explained that the criticism of Trump's response as being xenophobic comes from a different concern, having nothing to do with a travel ban. Now, you may not share that concern, but that's also irrelevant to the point, that Biden and Democrats have it.
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Establishing causality is not always easy, but this fulfills multiple criteria. Temporality, specificity, plausibility, coherence.I know. You keep saying that "everyone" knows this or that, but yet we can find many examples of idiots who don't get that.The ones with zero evidence Trump's words caused them?
So you acknowledge that Asian Americans were harassed and discriminated against because of the virus?
Of course not. They were nuts before the virus. You really have no connections. You can't link the term China virus to the incidents, you can't link the incidents to a party, you are just making it all up
Calling it the China virus is stoking the flames. That’s why the medical community recommends against it. Trump chooses to ignore it, then he’s going to be held responsible for his choice.
Complete political correctness and a load of crap. Everyone knows that "China virus" refers to where it's from.
Endless fake rules like this are how the left strangle a culture
So sorry, but the facts betray your insistence. Honestly, what did you expect? Trump has been dumbing down his supporters to the point of turning them into children.
colfax: Prove me wrong!
Sure, Chuckie, it's my job to prove you wrong, not your job to prove you correct.
You made two completely unsupported claims;
1) Linking nuts screaming at Asians to Trump calling it the Chinese virus
2) Linking the nuts to the Republican party
You just assumed it. Like four of us have kept asking you for evidence, and you have none.
Yes, there are nuts out there, no one disagrees with that. But you made more claims than that and have proven NOTHING. And no, prove you wrong is bull shit. Prove yourself right
Why shouldn't I assume it? It's exactly what we predicted would happen.
Causation fallacy.
OK then, here's something else you haven't proven. Those incidents are an increase from normal rates. 2,150 incidents nationally? That's tiny. Show it's a dramatic increase.
That would have been an obvious question to you if you weren't a Democrat drone totally unable to think for yourself
It's also completely unnecessary to call it the China virus unless you're attempting to direct anger of the virus at a specific group.
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Your link provides ZERO EVIDENCE those acts were caused by calling it the Chinese virus.I would like for colfax_m to tell us what part of Trump’s Kung Flu response was “xenophobic”, if it wasn’t the travel bans.Is that the reality where Trump claimed in the spring that COVID is no big deal, the Democrats are using it for a hoax, it’s going to disappear and it’s totally under control?How can I change your mind? We’d have to live in the same reality first.There is nothing that can be said to many Trump supporters to change their minds. They are so encapsulated in Trump’s world, it would break their brains to come to terms with reality.what I dont get is why are dems trying so hard to get trump re-elected???dont change the subject,,,why do you attack him for everything he does???As I have written Trump lied and people died. It is as clear as day now that he was lying the whole time he was downplaying Covid. The two-faced President was telling Woodward just how dangerous it was while telling the people it will magically disappear.
How many people died because of Trump's lies. 20,000..50.,000..120,000?
Trump's apologists will make fools of themselves once arguing that Trump did not say or mean what he obviously said and meant.
Just when you think Trump has hit bottom..he once again proves us wrong by reaching even greater depths of depravity.
He is responsible for the deaths and the dying from this virus, and the economy.
Trump is also responsible for your acne and the mole in your back yard.
Cut the stupid shit. The Chinese are responsible for the people dying. Of course Joe didn't need to try to help them by undercutting the President while he tried to deal with it.
Now Joe's advertising his Biden virus plan ... to do what Trump is doing now ...
Why can’t you guys ever hold Trump responsible for anything?
he tried to keep the people calm,,,whats wrong about that???
Calm? Like he does at his hate rallies? Do you mean like that?
So not calm thank you.
Is that what you are doing in here? Trying to change minds? And to do that you hurl insults, and slurs at the people you disagree with to accomplish that? Hmmm....I actually think it would "break the brains" of liberals like yourself to admit that Trump has done anything positive....even though you know he has.
Actually if you just joined us in reality, that would do it
Or should I stay in the reality where COVID has killed hundreds of thousands, continues to kill about a thousand people per day and has caused trillions upon trillions of economic damage?
You mean the sring where Nancy was inviting people down to Chinatown, and Joe was calling the travel ban xenophobic, and fear mongering? That spring?
And due to the administrations actions the death toll from this virus is within CDC projected numbers...That's science.
But Biden never called the ban xenophobic and fear mongering and what was exactly was wrong with inviting people to Chinatown in February?
Colfax: But Biden never called the ban xenophobic and fear mongering
Fact check: Liar, liar pants on fire
Colfax: and what was exactly was wrong with inviting people to Chinatown in February?
Your hypocrisy of attacking Trump now for admitting he downplayed the Biden virus
Colfax: Biden never called the ban xenophobic and fear mongering
Kaz: Yes he did and I have proof.
Colfax: Can I see this proof?
Kaz: No! (Jumps out window)
You are really bad at making a compelling case.
“Nakedly xenophobic”
Biden: Trump’s coronavirus response has been ‘nakedly xenophobic’
Former Vice President Joe Biden on Monday accused President Trump of “fanning the flames” of “hate, fear and xenophobia” against Asian Americans during the coronavirus outbreak.
Cant wait for your lame ass spin claiming he wasn’t talking about the travel ban.....or some other dumbassery.
GO!
Biden's words speak for themselves.
“The pandemic has unleashed familiar forces of hate, fear and xenophobia that he always flames … that have always existed in this society,” Biden said. “But this president brought it with him, has brought with it a new rash of racial messages, verbal and physical attacks and other acts of hate, some subtle, some overt, against the Asian American and Pacific Islanders.”
“We deserve better than a president who attacks the Speaker of the House for visiting a local Chinatown business in San Francisco. We deserve better than a president who aggressively and childishly insults Asian American reporter. Think of that, the president of the U.S. for the whole world to see, insults an Asian American reporter in the Rose Garden for doing her job and asking a direct question. You deserve a partner and a friend in the White House.”
He said exactly what he means and nothing in his comments referred to the travel ban.
Thank you for providing an article that contradicts what you want me to believe. It's far easier this way. Perhaps you should have read it.
LOL, just as I predicted in the last post.
colfax: Biden's comments about the travel ban weren't referring to the travel ban.
Thank you, Mr. Doublespeak
It’s in Biden’s comments, which if you read, you wouldn’t have to ask.
Calling it the China virus stigmatized Asian Americans who were discriminated against as a result.
Thats the best ya got?
Link us up to all this discrimination due to calling it the China Virus.
GO!
It's a trivial google search:
Amid COVID-19 Pandemic, Asian Americans Facing Discrimination
While many communities across the country celebrate Asian and Pacific Islander American Heritage Month this May, a growing number of Asian Americans fear for their safety, saying they’ve become targets of COVID-19-related discrimination. Since the coronavirus pandemic began, there have been...
Try again.
How stupid would someone have to be to think that Chinese virus refers to American Chinese? My God. Every time I think colfax can't look any more stupid, he proves me wrong. Amazing
2,120 [ reported ] hate incidents against Asian Americans reported during coronavirus pandemic
By Erin Donaghue
July 2, 2020 / 1:57 PM / CBS News
2,120 hate incidents against Asian Americans reported during coronavirus pandemic
There have been a half a million abortions since it started. We're a country of 330 million people. 2,120 incidents? There are a lot of nuts out there. This totally undercuts your argument. You're hyping another crisis that doesn't exist.
And "incidents" mostly means things that are basically rude and annoying. Democrats chase people out of restaurants, you've committed way more than 2,150 incidents of harassment to Trump supporters in your hate and intolerance
well thanx for the attempted spin. i'm not 'hyping' anything. you & nostra said it isn't happening.
it is. THAT is the point.
& i don't play the 'deflect & what aboutism' game ...
nope, homey don't play that.
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