Lucy Hamilton
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Seriously, will Trump look the other way with the Baltic States, Lithuania, Estonia, and Latvia...
I think Putin wants a man who he can stroke while going after his goals...
"US military chief General Raymond T Thomas said many former Eastern Bloc countries are “scared to death” of Russia and the vulnerable states are “desperate” for America’s leadership.
The US and its Nato allies will reportedly send battalions of up to 1,200 to each of the three Baltic states – Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia – and Poland by spring 2017."
I do not think we should be treaty bound to fight Russia over fucking Estonia.
Estonia is not worth WWIII.
Who says we need to fight...? Don't put words in my mouth..
Putin is not trying to be friends with Trump because he wants to smoke a cigar with him. He is up to no good, with his own huge ego and sneaky reasons.
Look at how Trump trusted Ted Cruz , because Cruz was complementing Trump... and Cruz stab him in the back..
Trump doesn't know what the hell he is doing yet, he has a lot to learn like they all do.
You post an excerpt about NATO sending military forces into the Baltic states.
That is a statement of intent that we will fight to protect those states. That's what that is about.
If you are prepared to fight WWIII over Estonia, you should be ok discussing that fact.
IN the COld War, we talked about fighting the Soviets over West Germany all the time. Because that is what their membership in NATO was all about.
If you are NOT prepared to fight WWIII over Estonia, then we need to get the fuck out of that treaty yesterday.
NATO should be dismantled, it's a threat to peace, NATO given the chance will begin WWIII and use Estonia or Latvia or Lithuania as purely an excuse to begin WWIII which the psychopathic Neo-Conservatives who control NATO have wanted for at least 10 years, these vampires have been planning WWIII for at least 10 years.
They need to be stopped by any and all means.
Bill Clinton directly violated GHWB promise NOT to expand NATO bases to within inches of Russia's border.
As Bill Clinton did this, as Obama has been severely aggressive in putting that into insane overdrive, Russia is completely within it's rights to take whatever precautions and preparations it feels necessary in order to protect the Russian Federation, her peoples and their vital national interests.
I'm sure America would do the same thing if Russian bases were positioned in Mexico, Central America and across Canada.
If we had NOT expanded NATO, it could have been a valuable building block for future military alliances.
BUT, by expanding it, it has become a danger to US. We are treaty bound to fight possibly nuclear wars over issues of NO importance to US.
Especially with Turkey growing increasingly goofy,
I agree, NATO should be disbanded.
Well this is another possible situation. Turkey being in NATO, should Turkey do something completely insane, then all other NATO countries, regardless of whether they think Turkey has done something completely insane, they'd be under obligation because of Article 5 (casus fœderis) of the NATO Treaty to all go and assist Turkey if Turkey came under attack.
That also would become potentially a WWIII situation.
Erdogan twice has publicly stated that he wants to reclaim Jerusalem for the Islamic world, so if Turkey entered Israel to reclaim Jerusalem and Israel retaliated by bombing Turkey, then again under Article 5 of the NATO Treaty all other NATO countries would have to assist Turkey and they'd have to collectively bomb Israel for bombing Turkey.
That would become a WWIII situation.