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56,000 DEAD and counting says it's NOT "exaggerated"
Trump reverses course, says it's 'too soon' for Georgia Gov. Kemp to reopen state
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Lesh
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So it only matters if EVERYONE dies?
No?
What's the "acceptable number of dead"...ya know...to go bowling and get a haircut...
Redfish
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more than that died from abortion and car accidents last week. 56000 out of 330000000 is not something to panic over. this thing has been lied about by China, lied about by WHO, lied about by our media, and lied about by many so-called medical experts. The numbers are clear, the mortality rate is less than 1/10 of 1%. If you are scared stay home, but don't demand that everyone share your fright.
the common cold is a corona virus, the annual flu is a virus. Viruses have been around since the beginning of time. Herd immunity needs to be allowed to take affect. Yes, those who have compromised immune systems and underlying medical issues need to be isolated, but they need to be isolated whether this virus was around or not.
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joaquinmiller
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I have. And you will see it play out as CO opens.That is one example of it. Biden/Kavanaugh is another blatant example, granpa."Yes I do think. So they open in 3 days. Think there will be questions? LOLSo 7 days is a big deal now? You pick and choose your talking points.Triggered. LOL
First matters.
To the subject of the thread, this is a take from the fairly-conservative Atlanta Journal Constitution. (Before they merged, the Journal was right-leaning, the Constitution was left. Now they hew to balance.)
âToo soon,â Trump says of Ga. plan to reopen economy; Kemp disagrees
President Donald Trump said Wednesday he “totally” disagreed with Gov. Brian Kemp’s decision to roll back coronavirus restrictions and allow shuttered businesses such as nail salons and barber shops to reopen this week.www.ajc.com
While you're yapping stupidities on the other thread, did it sink in that asking the question of the FIRST state to open is one thing, and asking subsequent states is another thing? It only indicates bias to an idiot.
need a safe space, Enrique?
Still avoiding your ignorance, weak one? And falling back on your 'triggered' nonsense.
Georgia was opening 2 days after that presser, and Colorado was opening 9 days after. Are you so stupid as to think the failure to ask about Polis at the same moment indicated bias? Really?
Do you think it indicates bias? Try to focus.
I'll leave those tea leaves to you. Your point was that Karl didn't ask about Polis, too. Do you believe that lack indicated bias?
To quote some idiot, "You pick and choose your talking points." If you think your Karl/Polis scenario indicates media bias, defend it, don't deflect.
You ignore the significance of Georgia reopening first - a week prior to Colorado. If that's it, you defended it unsuccessfully. Sorry you have to pin your hopes on the future.
The way Georgia played out, Trump was unwilling to risk having to share responsibility with Kemp. Ka-thump, ka-thump.
He has said from the beginning that its up to each governor to make those decisions, the federal government will provide whatever resources are needed but the federal government will not dictate to any state, as it should be.
No, not from the beginning. Before admitting that, Trump claimed differently. Once he acknowledged the governors' authority, he had it both ways - tweeting LIBERATE at 3 states continuing stay-at-home orders, and criticizing Kemp for his decision to reopen. As Trumpkins say, 'That's real leadership!'
Trump claims 'total' authority, over govs, to reopen economy
WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump claimed the “total” authority Monday to decide how and when to reopen the economy after weeks of tough social distancing guidelines aimed at fighting the new coronavirus.
apnews.com
WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump claimed the “total” authority Monday to decide how and when to reopen the economy
“When somebody is president of the United States, the authority is total,” Trump said at the White House. “The governors know that.”
Trump: Reopening The Economy "The Biggest Decision Of My Life"
President Donald Trump ended Friday's White House coronavirus daily press briefing with an announcement that he has a "big decision" coming up and that he can only "hope to God" that it will be the right one. The president said the decision as to when to reopen the economy will be the biggest...
"This is by far the biggest decision of my life because I have to say okay, let's go. This is what we're going to do."
The 'biggest decision of his life' was left to others.
He also had multiple calls with the 50 Governors and they came to that consensus. That is a good thing, Pedro.I have. And you will see it play out as CO opens.That is one example of it. Biden/Kavanaugh is another blatant example, granpa."Yes I do think. So they open in 3 days. Think there will be questions? LOLSo 7 days is a big deal now? You pick and choose your talking points.Triggered. LOL
First matters.
To the subject of the thread, this is a take from the fairly-conservative Atlanta Journal Constitution. (Before they merged, the Journal was right-leaning, the Constitution was left. Now they hew to balance.)
âToo soon,â Trump says of Ga. plan to reopen economy; Kemp disagrees
President Donald Trump said Wednesday he “totally” disagreed with Gov. Brian Kemp’s decision to roll back coronavirus restrictions and allow shuttered businesses such as nail salons and barber shops to reopen this week.
While you're yapping stupidities on the other thread, did it sink in that asking the question of the FIRST state to open is one thing, and asking subsequent states is another thing? It only indicates bias to an idiot.
need a safe space, Enrique?
Still avoiding your ignorance, weak one? And falling back on your 'triggered' nonsense.
Georgia was opening 2 days after that presser, and Colorado was opening 9 days after. Are you so stupid as to think the failure to ask about Polis at the same moment indicated bias? Really?
Do you think it indicates bias? Try to focus.
I'll leave those tea leaves to you. Your point was that Karl didn't ask about Polis, too. Do you believe that lack indicated bias?
To quote some idiot, "You pick and choose your talking points." If you think your Karl/Polis scenario indicates media bias, defend it, don't deflect.
You ignore the significance of Georgia reopening first - a week prior to Colorado. If that's it, you defended it unsuccessfully. Sorry you have to pin your hopes on the future.
The way Georgia played out, Trump was unwilling to risk having to share responsibility with Kemp. Ka-thump, ka-thump.
He has said from the beginning that its up to each governor to make those decisions, the federal government will provide whatever resources are needed but the federal government will not dictate to any state, as it should be.
No, not from the beginning. Before admitting that, Trump claimed differently. Once he acknowledged the governors' authority, he had it both ways - tweeting LIBERATE at 3 states continuing stay-at-home orders, and criticizing Kemp for his decision to reopen. As Trumpkins say, 'That's real leadership!'
Trump claims 'total' authority, over govs, to reopen economy
WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump claimed the “total” authority Monday to decide how and when to reopen the economy after weeks of tough social distancing guidelines aimed at fighting the new coronavirus.
WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump claimed the “total” authority Monday to decide how and when to reopen the economy
“When somebody is president of the United States, the authority is total,” Trump said at the White House. “The governors know that.”
Trump: Reopening The Economy "The Biggest Decision Of My Life"
President Donald Trump ended Friday's White House coronavirus daily press briefing with an announcement that he has a "big decision" coming up and that he can only "hope to God" that it will be the right one. The president said the decision as to when to reopen the economy will be the biggest...www.realclearpolitics.com
"This is by far the biggest decision of my life because I have to say okay, let's go. This is what we're going to do."
The 'biggest decision of his life' was left to others.
joaquinmiller
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He also had multiple calls with the 50 Governors and they came to that consensus. That is a good thing, Pedro.I have. And you will see it play out as CO opens.That is one example of it. Biden/Kavanaugh is another blatant example, granpa."Yes I do think. So they open in 3 days. Think there will be questions? LOLSo 7 days is a big deal now? You pick and choose your talking points.Triggered. LOL
First matters.
To the subject of the thread, this is a take from the fairly-conservative Atlanta Journal Constitution. (Before they merged, the Journal was right-leaning, the Constitution was left. Now they hew to balance.)
âToo soon,â Trump says of Ga. plan to reopen economy; Kemp disagrees
President Donald Trump said Wednesday he “totally” disagreed with Gov. Brian Kemp’s decision to roll back coronavirus restrictions and allow shuttered businesses such as nail salons and barber shops to reopen this week.
While you're yapping stupidities on the other thread, did it sink in that asking the question of the FIRST state to open is one thing, and asking subsequent states is another thing? It only indicates bias to an idiot.
need a safe space, Enrique?
Still avoiding your ignorance, weak one? And falling back on your 'triggered' nonsense.
Georgia was opening 2 days after that presser, and Colorado was opening 9 days after. Are you so stupid as to think the failure to ask about Polis at the same moment indicated bias? Really?
Do you think it indicates bias? Try to focus.
I'll leave those tea leaves to you. Your point was that Karl didn't ask about Polis, too. Do you believe that lack indicated bias?
To quote some idiot, "You pick and choose your talking points." If you think your Karl/Polis scenario indicates media bias, defend it, don't deflect.
You ignore the significance of Georgia reopening first - a week prior to Colorado. If that's it, you defended it unsuccessfully. Sorry you have to pin your hopes on the future.
The way Georgia played out, Trump was unwilling to risk having to share responsibility with Kemp. Ka-thump, ka-thump.
He has said from the beginning that its up to each governor to make those decisions, the federal government will provide whatever resources are needed but the federal government will not dictate to any state, as it should be.
No, not from the beginning. Before admitting that, Trump claimed differently. Once he acknowledged the governors' authority, he had it both ways - tweeting LIBERATE at 3 states continuing stay-at-home orders, and criticizing Kemp for his decision to reopen. As Trumpkins say, 'That's real leadership!'
Trump claims 'total' authority, over govs, to reopen economy
WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump claimed the “total” authority Monday to decide how and when to reopen the economy after weeks of tough social distancing guidelines aimed at fighting the new coronavirus.
WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump claimed the “total” authority Monday to decide how and when to reopen the economy
“When somebody is president of the United States, the authority is total,” Trump said at the White House. “The governors know that.”
Trump: Reopening The Economy "The Biggest Decision Of My Life"
President Donald Trump ended Friday's White House coronavirus daily press briefing with an announcement that he has a "big decision" coming up and that he can only "hope to God" that it will be the right one. The president said the decision as to when to reopen the economy will be the biggest...
"This is by far the biggest decision of my life because I have to say okay, let's go. This is what we're going to do."
The 'biggest decision of his life' was left to others.
It was never his authority.
I am not an attorney and that is murky. Likely would have gone to the SCOTUS. Fortunately, it did not come to pass. I reiterate, it is a good thing the Governors are working together, speaking with one another and coordinating with the White House. Not a bad thing.He also had multiple calls with the 50 Governors and they came to that consensus. That is a good thing, Pedro.I have. And you will see it play out as CO opens.That is one example of it. Biden/Kavanaugh is another blatant example, granpa."Yes I do think. So they open in 3 days. Think there will be questions? LOLSo 7 days is a big deal now? You pick and choose your talking points.Triggered. LOL
First matters.
To the subject of the thread, this is a take from the fairly-conservative Atlanta Journal Constitution. (Before they merged, the Journal was right-leaning, the Constitution was left. Now they hew to balance.)
âToo soon,â Trump says of Ga. plan to reopen economy; Kemp disagrees
President Donald Trump said Wednesday he “totally” disagreed with Gov. Brian Kemp’s decision to roll back coronavirus restrictions and allow shuttered businesses such as nail salons and barber shops to reopen this week.
While you're yapping stupidities on the other thread, did it sink in that asking the question of the FIRST state to open is one thing, and asking subsequent states is another thing? It only indicates bias to an idiot.
need a safe space, Enrique?
Still avoiding your ignorance, weak one? And falling back on your 'triggered' nonsense.
Georgia was opening 2 days after that presser, and Colorado was opening 9 days after. Are you so stupid as to think the failure to ask about Polis at the same moment indicated bias? Really?
Do you think it indicates bias? Try to focus.
I'll leave those tea leaves to you. Your point was that Karl didn't ask about Polis, too. Do you believe that lack indicated bias?
To quote some idiot, "You pick and choose your talking points." If you think your Karl/Polis scenario indicates media bias, defend it, don't deflect.
You ignore the significance of Georgia reopening first - a week prior to Colorado. If that's it, you defended it unsuccessfully. Sorry you have to pin your hopes on the future.
The way Georgia played out, Trump was unwilling to risk having to share responsibility with Kemp. Ka-thump, ka-thump.
He has said from the beginning that its up to each governor to make those decisions, the federal government will provide whatever resources are needed but the federal government will not dictate to any state, as it should be.
No, not from the beginning. Before admitting that, Trump claimed differently. Once he acknowledged the governors' authority, he had it both ways - tweeting LIBERATE at 3 states continuing stay-at-home orders, and criticizing Kemp for his decision to reopen. As Trumpkins say, 'That's real leadership!'
Trump claims 'total' authority, over govs, to reopen economy
WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump claimed the “total” authority Monday to decide how and when to reopen the economy after weeks of tough social distancing guidelines aimed at fighting the new coronavirus.
WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump claimed the “total” authority Monday to decide how and when to reopen the economy
“When somebody is president of the United States, the authority is total,” Trump said at the White House. “The governors know that.”
Trump: Reopening The Economy "The Biggest Decision Of My Life"
President Donald Trump ended Friday's White House coronavirus daily press briefing with an announcement that he has a "big decision" coming up and that he can only "hope to God" that it will be the right one. The president said the decision as to when to reopen the economy will be the biggest...
"This is by far the biggest decision of my life because I have to say okay, let's go. This is what we're going to do."
The 'biggest decision of his life' was left to others.
It was never his authority.
joaquinmiller
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I am not an attorney and that is murky. Likely would have gone to the SCOTUS. Fortunately, it did not come to pass. I reiterate, it is a good thing the Governors are working together, speaking with one another and coordinating with the White House. Not a bad thing.He also had multiple calls with the 50 Governors and they came to that consensus. That is a good thing, Pedro.I have. And you will see it play out as CO opens.That is one example of it. Biden/Kavanaugh is another blatant example, granpa."Yes I do think. So they open in 3 days. Think there will be questions? LOLSo 7 days is a big deal now? You pick and choose your talking points.Triggered. LOL
First matters.
To the subject of the thread, this is a take from the fairly-conservative Atlanta Journal Constitution. (Before they merged, the Journal was right-leaning, the Constitution was left. Now they hew to balance.)
âToo soon,â Trump says of Ga. plan to reopen economy; Kemp disagrees
President Donald Trump said Wednesday he “totally” disagreed with Gov. Brian Kemp’s decision to roll back coronavirus restrictions and allow shuttered businesses such as nail salons and barber shops to reopen this week.
While you're yapping stupidities on the other thread, did it sink in that asking the question of the FIRST state to open is one thing, and asking subsequent states is another thing? It only indicates bias to an idiot.
need a safe space, Enrique?
Still avoiding your ignorance, weak one? And falling back on your 'triggered' nonsense.
Georgia was opening 2 days after that presser, and Colorado was opening 9 days after. Are you so stupid as to think the failure to ask about Polis at the same moment indicated bias? Really?
Do you think it indicates bias? Try to focus.
I'll leave those tea leaves to you. Your point was that Karl didn't ask about Polis, too. Do you believe that lack indicated bias?
To quote some idiot, "You pick and choose your talking points." If you think your Karl/Polis scenario indicates media bias, defend it, don't deflect.
You ignore the significance of Georgia reopening first - a week prior to Colorado. If that's it, you defended it unsuccessfully. Sorry you have to pin your hopes on the future.
The way Georgia played out, Trump was unwilling to risk having to share responsibility with Kemp. Ka-thump, ka-thump.
He has said from the beginning that its up to each governor to make those decisions, the federal government will provide whatever resources are needed but the federal government will not dictate to any state, as it should be.
No, not from the beginning. Before admitting that, Trump claimed differently. Once he acknowledged the governors' authority, he had it both ways - tweeting LIBERATE at 3 states continuing stay-at-home orders, and criticizing Kemp for his decision to reopen. As Trumpkins say, 'That's real leadership!'
Trump claims 'total' authority, over govs, to reopen economy
WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump claimed the “total” authority Monday to decide how and when to reopen the economy after weeks of tough social distancing guidelines aimed at fighting the new coronavirus.
WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump claimed the “total” authority Monday to decide how and when to reopen the economy
“When somebody is president of the United States, the authority is total,” Trump said at the White House. “The governors know that.”
Trump: Reopening The Economy "The Biggest Decision Of My Life"
President Donald Trump ended Friday's White House coronavirus daily press briefing with an announcement that he has a "big decision" coming up and that he can only "hope to God" that it will be the right one. The president said the decision as to when to reopen the economy will be the biggest...
"This is by far the biggest decision of my life because I have to say okay, let's go. This is what we're going to do."
The 'biggest decision of his life' was left to others.
It was never his authority.
“When somebody is the president of the United States, the authority is total, and that’s the way it’s got to be. ... It’s total. It’s total. And the governors know that.”
You don't have to be an attorney to know that is Constitutionally unsupportable. The same day he said that, Trump was forced to acknowledge reality when groups of governors in the Northeast and the West Coast said they would work together, without him, to decide when to reopen their states.
If you maintain it was within his authority, you have to concede he left "the biggest decision of his life" to others, and then criticized in both directions.
You're right, cooperation is good. A shame there's not more of it.
Cecilie1200
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It depends on the risk they take by not reopening.That is not probable. Fact that it’s China’s fault is.Oh please. I don't find COVID funny, i find you laughably ignorant. COVID didn't escape from a lab.What would you call it? If I run a lab and due to my ineptness release a virus that kills 1000s. Glad you find all this death and despair funny.It is a biological attack at best due to their carelessness. NOT a scapegoat. This is their fault.China is an evil communist regime. It would be like not blaming Nazi Germany for WW2. You're an uneducated buffoon.It is absolutely the right context.You keep using that but that is not the right context. You have lost all credibility anyway when you didn't blame the Chinese Evil Communist Regime for this virus.You another one that didn't get the update? Your naked emperor said he was just joshin' about the light.Trump. Duh. Trump is to blame for the Wuhan Virus.Are you having difficulty with words. I said that unequivocally the virus ORIGINATED in China. What he wants me to admit that the virus is 100% China's "fault". He, like Trump, wants a scapegoat."Every single"You are one of the most illogical posters on here. How else should she respond? The alternate reality in which you live must be fantastic.And yet hospitals are still being overwhelmed and they will be again if we "open up" too soon.So that hospitals can be overrun. Brilliant.So Trump was for reopening Georgia, before he “strongly disagreed” with it
Trump reverses course, says it's 'too soon' for Georgia Gov. Kemp to reopen state
The president said he told Gov. Brian Kemp "I disagree strongly" with his decision to reopen nail salons and tattoo parlors — but he won't stop him.www.nbcnews.com
The whole purpose of the shutdown was to keep hospitals from being overrun, mission accomplished, time to get back to work.
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Oh, we didn't spend this time ramping up our medical ability to respond to the virus?
Or you're just too dense to have noticed?
Interesting how you "know facts" we're supposed to base everything on which no one else knows.
No, what's really interesting is how you keep expecting people who actually know you to take you seriously.
Interesting that you feel the need to respond to every one of my posts with some stupid ad hominem or non sequitur. Creepy stalker much?
ROFLMAO...this, coming from the guy who accuses every single person he does not agree with of being a "foreigner". You've got zero credibility when speaking of anyone else's logic.
Nope. More hyperbole from you.
Zero cred? I disagree again. You cannot even admit that COVID-19 originated in China. Sad.
I can, very easily and with no problem state unequivocally that the virus originated in China. What I do not do, and that causes you to stomp your little feet and wave your little fists, is blame China for COVID.
So you think China stopping domestic travel in and out of Wuhan while they allowed international travel, to and from Wuhan, was by accident?
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Apparently China intentionally allowed the virus to get out of their mainland, who else is there to blame? They were aware of the virus as early as mid Oct or early Nov and alerted no one.
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No, Trump is to blame for the piss poor response the United States has had to the virus...and for not simply shutting the fuck up and letting doctors and health experts handle the daily COVID briefings. They don't say stupid shit like shine light and shove disinfectant up your ass.
The "shining light" is currently under development in CO, it's UV light emitting diodes inserted in the tubing of respirators in the trachea, to kill bugs in the air. I currently have a UV system on my water supply, and it's very effective. Also expect to see the government to require UV systems on commercial AVAC units, it's coming.
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Trump really does make fools out of you all on a regular basis.
Wow, deflection form a commie, who'd a thunk? Care to address what I actually said?
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What deflection? You can stop trying to cover for the moron. He said he was "kidding" (although we all know he wasn't)
are you really so stupid that you think he was telling people to drink lysol and clorox? I understand that a sense of humor and liberalism do not exist in the same person. You, winger, and a few others confirm the defective liberal gene theory every day on this board.
No. I was employing hyperbole. Damn close though...
“I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in a minute. One minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning? Because you see it gets in the lungs, and it does a tremendous number on the lungs. So it would be interesting to check that,”
do you understand the meaning of the words "something like that" ?
Do you understand that we know your emperor has no clothes no matter how often you try to describe what you think he's wearing?
I'm really not concerned that a troll on tje internet doesn't think I have "credibility" simply because I won't jump on his "blame China" train.
Hey, did you hea r you're not immune even though you claim you had COVID? Just an "FYI". I know Fox's coverage can be sketchy.
Thanks for playing "really bad analogies". COVID is a virus not an army or an invading force. You're a pretty sad individual if you so desperately need someone to scapegoat.
Oh, so now it's a biological" attack"?Way to double down on the sad and pathetic.
Did COVID-19 escape from a lab? - Alliance for Science
A frenzy of speculation has arisen around the idea that the novel coronavirus responsible for the global COVID-19 pandemic might originally have escaped from a laboratory in the Chinese city of Wuhan. While there is so far no evidence being offered to support this suggestion, the fact that the...allianceforscience.cornell.edu
So if we find out it did since that article is bogus and the WORLD holds them accountable, will you change your mind? You posted the laughing emoji, so you must find it funny.
What if? You're playing what if? What if it turns out that aliens brought COVID from another planet? Get back to me when it's no longer "what the fuck if".
At this moment aliens from another planet is as probable as anything you are proposing. You don't care about facts, you've set your mind "boo hoo, bad, bad China did it". Tell me, what does it change? It doesn't change Trump's piss poor response to it. It does't change his riffing on injecting disinfectants. It doesn't change the HUGE risk Georgia is taking by opening too soon.
Unless there is widespread testing, people aren't going to be comfortable going out. So business, who can't survive on the small number of people actually going to their establishments are risking exposure to their employees and their few customers. Until we are testing millions of people per day and doing contact tracing, we're just rolling the dice. You wanna risk your life on the roll of a pair of dice?
OK, lets see what "wide spread testing" means. If I get tested this morning, test negative, and catch the virus tonight, what good did the test do?
Are you suggesting that we cannot be safe until we test 330 million people every morning before they are allowed to leave their houses?
People with symptoms are being tested every day in every state. If they are positive, they are quarantined. What TF more do you want done?
God you are such an idiot. Nothing is 100% foolproof. The goal is to limit risk and exposure. According to health experts, people returning to work would need to be tested weekly. This is the new reality for working Americans until there is a vaccine. Since you don't work, it's really not your concern, is it?
Are you aware that there has never been an effective vaccine developed for a corona virus. Hell they're still trying to develop a vaccine for SARS, no luck so far. What makes you think this one is any different?
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Other coronaviruses - like the common cold - mutate rapidly, so it's impossible to vaccinate against them. Whether or not we can vaccinate against this depends on whether it mutates, and how quickly.
Except several attorneys disagreed. I do not know if he was right or wrong. There are some arguments for both. I know I am right and you're right that it is a shame there's not more of it.I am not an attorney and that is murky. Likely would have gone to the SCOTUS. Fortunately, it did not come to pass. I reiterate, it is a good thing the Governors are working together, speaking with one another and coordinating with the White House. Not a bad thing.He also had multiple calls with the 50 Governors and they came to that consensus. That is a good thing, Pedro.I have. And you will see it play out as CO opens.That is one example of it. Biden/Kavanaugh is another blatant example, granpa."Yes I do think. So they open in 3 days. Think there will be questions? LOLSo 7 days is a big deal now? You pick and choose your talking points.Triggered. LOL
First matters.
To the subject of the thread, this is a take from the fairly-conservative Atlanta Journal Constitution. (Before they merged, the Journal was right-leaning, the Constitution was left. Now they hew to balance.)
âToo soon,â Trump says of Ga. plan to reopen economy; Kemp disagrees
President Donald Trump said Wednesday he “totally” disagreed with Gov. Brian Kemp’s decision to roll back coronavirus restrictions and allow shuttered businesses such as nail salons and barber shops to reopen this week.
While you're yapping stupidities on the other thread, did it sink in that asking the question of the FIRST state to open is one thing, and asking subsequent states is another thing? It only indicates bias to an idiot.
need a safe space, Enrique?
Still avoiding your ignorance, weak one? And falling back on your 'triggered' nonsense.
Georgia was opening 2 days after that presser, and Colorado was opening 9 days after. Are you so stupid as to think the failure to ask about Polis at the same moment indicated bias? Really?
Do you think it indicates bias? Try to focus.
I'll leave those tea leaves to you. Your point was that Karl didn't ask about Polis, too. Do you believe that lack indicated bias?
To quote some idiot, "You pick and choose your talking points." If you think your Karl/Polis scenario indicates media bias, defend it, don't deflect.
You ignore the significance of Georgia reopening first - a week prior to Colorado. If that's it, you defended it unsuccessfully. Sorry you have to pin your hopes on the future.
The way Georgia played out, Trump was unwilling to risk having to share responsibility with Kemp. Ka-thump, ka-thump.
He has said from the beginning that its up to each governor to make those decisions, the federal government will provide whatever resources are needed but the federal government will not dictate to any state, as it should be.
No, not from the beginning. Before admitting that, Trump claimed differently. Once he acknowledged the governors' authority, he had it both ways - tweeting LIBERATE at 3 states continuing stay-at-home orders, and criticizing Kemp for his decision to reopen. As Trumpkins say, 'That's real leadership!'
Trump claims 'total' authority, over govs, to reopen economy
WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump claimed the “total” authority Monday to decide how and when to reopen the economy after weeks of tough social distancing guidelines aimed at fighting the new coronavirus.
WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump claimed the “total” authority Monday to decide how and when to reopen the economy
“When somebody is president of the United States, the authority is total,” Trump said at the White House. “The governors know that.”
Trump: Reopening The Economy "The Biggest Decision Of My Life"
President Donald Trump ended Friday's White House coronavirus daily press briefing with an announcement that he has a "big decision" coming up and that he can only "hope to God" that it will be the right one. The president said the decision as to when to reopen the economy will be the biggest...
"This is by far the biggest decision of my life because I have to say okay, let's go. This is what we're going to do."
The 'biggest decision of his life' was left to others.
It was never his authority.
“When somebody is the president of the United States, the authority is total, and that’s the way it’s got to be. ... It’s total. It’s total. And the governors know that.”
You don't have to be an attorney to know that is Constitutionally unsupportable. The same day he said that, Trump was forced to acknowledge reality when groups of governors in the Northeast and the West Coast said they would work together, without him, to decide when to reopen their states.
If you maintain it was within his authority, you have to concede he left "the biggest decision of his life" to others, and then criticized in both directions.
You're right, cooperation is good. A shame there's not more of it.
BTW - I never complained to the MODS. Did you get that straightened out? LOL. Cooperation is good.I am not an attorney and that is murky. Likely would have gone to the SCOTUS. Fortunately, it did not come to pass. I reiterate, it is a good thing the Governors are working together, speaking with one another and coordinating with the White House. Not a bad thing.He also had multiple calls with the 50 Governors and they came to that consensus. That is a good thing, Pedro.I have. And you will see it play out as CO opens.That is one example of it. Biden/Kavanaugh is another blatant example, granpa."Yes I do think. So they open in 3 days. Think there will be questions? LOLSo 7 days is a big deal now? You pick and choose your talking points.Triggered. LOL
First matters.
To the subject of the thread, this is a take from the fairly-conservative Atlanta Journal Constitution. (Before they merged, the Journal was right-leaning, the Constitution was left. Now they hew to balance.)
âToo soon,â Trump says of Ga. plan to reopen economy; Kemp disagrees
President Donald Trump said Wednesday he “totally” disagreed with Gov. Brian Kemp’s decision to roll back coronavirus restrictions and allow shuttered businesses such as nail salons and barber shops to reopen this week.
While you're yapping stupidities on the other thread, did it sink in that asking the question of the FIRST state to open is one thing, and asking subsequent states is another thing? It only indicates bias to an idiot.
need a safe space, Enrique?
Still avoiding your ignorance, weak one? And falling back on your 'triggered' nonsense.
Georgia was opening 2 days after that presser, and Colorado was opening 9 days after. Are you so stupid as to think the failure to ask about Polis at the same moment indicated bias? Really?
Do you think it indicates bias? Try to focus.
I'll leave those tea leaves to you. Your point was that Karl didn't ask about Polis, too. Do you believe that lack indicated bias?
To quote some idiot, "You pick and choose your talking points." If you think your Karl/Polis scenario indicates media bias, defend it, don't deflect.
You ignore the significance of Georgia reopening first - a week prior to Colorado. If that's it, you defended it unsuccessfully. Sorry you have to pin your hopes on the future.
The way Georgia played out, Trump was unwilling to risk having to share responsibility with Kemp. Ka-thump, ka-thump.
He has said from the beginning that its up to each governor to make those decisions, the federal government will provide whatever resources are needed but the federal government will not dictate to any state, as it should be.
No, not from the beginning. Before admitting that, Trump claimed differently. Once he acknowledged the governors' authority, he had it both ways - tweeting LIBERATE at 3 states continuing stay-at-home orders, and criticizing Kemp for his decision to reopen. As Trumpkins say, 'That's real leadership!'
Trump claims 'total' authority, over govs, to reopen economy
WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump claimed the “total” authority Monday to decide how and when to reopen the economy after weeks of tough social distancing guidelines aimed at fighting the new coronavirus.
WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump claimed the “total” authority Monday to decide how and when to reopen the economy
“When somebody is president of the United States, the authority is total,” Trump said at the White House. “The governors know that.”
Trump: Reopening The Economy "The Biggest Decision Of My Life"
President Donald Trump ended Friday's White House coronavirus daily press briefing with an announcement that he has a "big decision" coming up and that he can only "hope to God" that it will be the right one. The president said the decision as to when to reopen the economy will be the biggest...
"This is by far the biggest decision of my life because I have to say okay, let's go. This is what we're going to do."
The 'biggest decision of his life' was left to others.
It was never his authority.
“When somebody is the president of the United States, the authority is total, and that’s the way it’s got to be. ... It’s total. It’s total. And the governors know that.”
You don't have to be an attorney to know that is Constitutionally unsupportable. The same day he said that, Trump was forced to acknowledge reality when groups of governors in the Northeast and the West Coast said they would work together, without him, to decide when to reopen their states.
If you maintain it was within his authority, you have to concede he left "the biggest decision of his life" to others, and then criticized in both directions.
You're right, cooperation is good. A shame there's not more of it.
It depends on the risk they take by not reopening.That is not probable. Fact that it’s China’s fault is.Oh please. I don't find COVID funny, i find you laughably ignorant. COVID didn't escape from a lab.What would you call it? If I run a lab and due to my ineptness release a virus that kills 1000s. Glad you find all this death and despair funny.It is a biological attack at best due to their carelessness. NOT a scapegoat. This is their fault.China is an evil communist regime. It would be like not blaming Nazi Germany for WW2. You're an uneducated buffoon.It is absolutely the right context.You keep using that but that is not the right context. You have lost all credibility anyway when you didn't blame the Chinese Evil Communist Regime for this virus.You another one that didn't get the update? Your naked emperor said he was just joshin' about the light.Trump. Duh. Trump is to blame for the Wuhan Virus.Are you having difficulty with words. I said that unequivocally the virus ORIGINATED in China. What he wants me to admit that the virus is 100% China's "fault". He, like Trump, wants a scapegoat."Every single"You are one of the most illogical posters on here. How else should she respond? The alternate reality in which you live must be fantastic.And yet hospitals are still being overwhelmed and they will be again if we "open up" too soon.So that hospitals can be overrun. Brilliant.So Trump was for reopening Georgia, before he “strongly disagreed” with it
Trump reverses course, says it's 'too soon' for Georgia Gov. Kemp to reopen state
The president said he told Gov. Brian Kemp "I disagree strongly" with his decision to reopen nail salons and tattoo parlors — but he won't stop him.www.nbcnews.com
The whole purpose of the shutdown was to keep hospitals from being overrun, mission accomplished, time to get back to work.
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Oh, we didn't spend this time ramping up our medical ability to respond to the virus?
Or you're just too dense to have noticed?
Interesting how you "know facts" we're supposed to base everything on which no one else knows.
No, what's really interesting is how you keep expecting people who actually know you to take you seriously.
Interesting that you feel the need to respond to every one of my posts with some stupid ad hominem or non sequitur. Creepy stalker much?
ROFLMAO...this, coming from the guy who accuses every single person he does not agree with of being a "foreigner". You've got zero credibility when speaking of anyone else's logic.
Nope. More hyperbole from you.
Zero cred? I disagree again. You cannot even admit that COVID-19 originated in China. Sad.
I can, very easily and with no problem state unequivocally that the virus originated in China. What I do not do, and that causes you to stomp your little feet and wave your little fists, is blame China for COVID.
So you think China stopping domestic travel in and out of Wuhan while they allowed international travel, to and from Wuhan, was by accident?
.
Apparently China intentionally allowed the virus to get out of their mainland, who else is there to blame? They were aware of the virus as early as mid Oct or early Nov and alerted no one.
.
No, Trump is to blame for the piss poor response the United States has had to the virus...and for not simply shutting the fuck up and letting doctors and health experts handle the daily COVID briefings. They don't say stupid shit like shine light and shove disinfectant up your ass.
The "shining light" is currently under development in CO, it's UV light emitting diodes inserted in the tubing of respirators in the trachea, to kill bugs in the air. I currently have a UV system on my water supply, and it's very effective. Also expect to see the government to require UV systems on commercial AVAC units, it's coming.
.
Trump really does make fools out of you all on a regular basis.
Wow, deflection form a commie, who'd a thunk? Care to address what I actually said?
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What deflection? You can stop trying to cover for the moron. He said he was "kidding" (although we all know he wasn't)
are you really so stupid that you think he was telling people to drink lysol and clorox? I understand that a sense of humor and liberalism do not exist in the same person. You, winger, and a few others confirm the defective liberal gene theory every day on this board.
No. I was employing hyperbole. Damn close though...
“I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in a minute. One minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning? Because you see it gets in the lungs, and it does a tremendous number on the lungs. So it would be interesting to check that,”
do you understand the meaning of the words "something like that" ?
Do you understand that we know your emperor has no clothes no matter how often you try to describe what you think he's wearing?
I'm really not concerned that a troll on tje internet doesn't think I have "credibility" simply because I won't jump on his "blame China" train.
Hey, did you hea r you're not immune even though you claim you had COVID? Just an "FYI". I know Fox's coverage can be sketchy.
Thanks for playing "really bad analogies". COVID is a virus not an army or an invading force. You're a pretty sad individual if you so desperately need someone to scapegoat.
Oh, so now it's a biological" attack"?
Did COVID-19 escape from a lab? - Alliance for Science
A frenzy of speculation has arisen around the idea that the novel coronavirus responsible for the global COVID-19 pandemic might originally have escaped from a laboratory in the Chinese city of Wuhan. While there is so far no evidence being offered to support this suggestion, the fact that the...
So if we find out it did since that article is bogus and the WORLD holds them accountable, will you change your mind? You posted the laughing emoji, so you must find it funny.
What if? You're playing what if? What if it turns out that aliens brought COVID from another planet? Get back to me when it's no longer "what the fuck if".
At this moment aliens from another planet is as probable as anything you are proposing. You don't care about facts, you've set your mind "boo hoo, bad, bad China did it". Tell me, what does it change? It doesn't change Trump's piss poor response to it. It does't change his riffing on injecting disinfectants. It doesn't change the HUGE risk Georgia is taking by opening too soon.
Unless there is widespread testing, people aren't going to be comfortable going out. So business, who can't survive on the small number of people actually going to their establishments are risking exposure to their employees and their few customers. Until we are testing millions of people per day and doing contact tracing, we're just rolling the dice. You wanna risk your life on the roll of a pair of dice?
OK, lets see what "wide spread testing" means. If I get tested this morning, test negative, and catch the virus tonight, what good did the test do?
Are you suggesting that we cannot be safe until we test 330 million people every morning before they are allowed to leave their houses?
People with symptoms are being tested every day in every state. If they are positive, they are quarantined. What TF more do you want done?
God you are such an idiot. Nothing is 100% foolproof. The goal is to limit risk and exposure. According to health experts, people returning to work would need to be tested weekly. This is the new reality for working Americans until there is a vaccine. Since you don't work, it's really not your concern, is it?
Are you aware that there has never been an effective vaccine developed for a corona virus. Hell they're still trying to develop a vaccine for SARS, no luck so far. What makes you think this one is any different?
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Other coronaviruses - like the common cold - mutate rapidly, so it's impossible to vaccinate against them. Whether or not we can vaccinate against this depends on whether it mutates, and how quickly.
I wouldn't advise holding your breath.
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Indeependent
Diamond Member
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You should advise every Liberal to hold their breath.It depends on the risk they take by not reopening.That is not probable. Fact that it’s China’s fault is.Oh please. I don't find COVID funny, i find you laughably ignorant. COVID didn't escape from a lab.What would you call it? If I run a lab and due to my ineptness release a virus that kills 1000s. Glad you find all this death and despair funny.It is a biological attack at best due to their carelessness. NOT a scapegoat. This is their fault.China is an evil communist regime. It would be like not blaming Nazi Germany for WW2. You're an uneducated buffoon.It is absolutely the right context.You keep using that but that is not the right context. You have lost all credibility anyway when you didn't blame the Chinese Evil Communist Regime for this virus.You another one that didn't get the update? Your naked emperor said he was just joshin' about the light.Trump. Duh. Trump is to blame for the Wuhan Virus.Are you having difficulty with words. I said that unequivocally the virus ORIGINATED in China. What he wants me to admit that the virus is 100% China's "fault". He, like Trump, wants a scapegoat."Every single"You are one of the most illogical posters on here. How else should she respond? The alternate reality in which you live must be fantastic.And yet hospitals are still being overwhelmed and they will be again if we "open up" too soon.So that hospitals can be overrun. Brilliant.So Trump was for reopening Georgia, before he “strongly disagreed” with it
Trump reverses course, says it's 'too soon' for Georgia Gov. Kemp to reopen state
The president said he told Gov. Brian Kemp "I disagree strongly" with his decision to reopen nail salons and tattoo parlors — but he won't stop him.www.nbcnews.com
The whole purpose of the shutdown was to keep hospitals from being overrun, mission accomplished, time to get back to work.
.
Oh, we didn't spend this time ramping up our medical ability to respond to the virus?
Or you're just too dense to have noticed?
Interesting how you "know facts" we're supposed to base everything on which no one else knows.
No, what's really interesting is how you keep expecting people who actually know you to take you seriously.
Interesting that you feel the need to respond to every one of my posts with some stupid ad hominem or non sequitur. Creepy stalker much?
ROFLMAO...this, coming from the guy who accuses every single person he does not agree with of being a "foreigner". You've got zero credibility when speaking of anyone else's logic.
Nope. More hyperbole from you.
Zero cred? I disagree again. You cannot even admit that COVID-19 originated in China. Sad.
I can, very easily and with no problem state unequivocally that the virus originated in China. What I do not do, and that causes you to stomp your little feet and wave your little fists, is blame China for COVID.
So you think China stopping domestic travel in and out of Wuhan while they allowed international travel, to and from Wuhan, was by accident?
.
Apparently China intentionally allowed the virus to get out of their mainland, who else is there to blame? They were aware of the virus as early as mid Oct or early Nov and alerted no one.
.
No, Trump is to blame for the piss poor response the United States has had to the virus...and for not simply shutting the fuck up and letting doctors and health experts handle the daily COVID briefings. They don't say stupid shit like shine light and shove disinfectant up your ass.
The "shining light" is currently under development in CO, it's UV light emitting diodes inserted in the tubing of respirators in the trachea, to kill bugs in the air. I currently have a UV system on my water supply, and it's very effective. Also expect to see the government to require UV systems on commercial AVAC units, it's coming.
.
Trump really does make fools out of you all on a regular basis.
Wow, deflection form a commie, who'd a thunk? Care to address what I actually said?
.
What deflection? You can stop trying to cover for the moron. He said he was "kidding" (although we all know he wasn't)
are you really so stupid that you think he was telling people to drink lysol and clorox? I understand that a sense of humor and liberalism do not exist in the same person. You, winger, and a few others confirm the defective liberal gene theory every day on this board.
No. I was employing hyperbole. Damn close though...
“I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in a minute. One minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning? Because you see it gets in the lungs, and it does a tremendous number on the lungs. So it would be interesting to check that,”
do you understand the meaning of the words "something like that" ?
Do you understand that we know your emperor has no clothes no matter how often you try to describe what you think he's wearing?
I'm really not concerned that a troll on tje internet doesn't think I have "credibility" simply because I won't jump on his "blame China" train.
Hey, did you hea r you're not immune even though you claim you had COVID? Just an "FYI". I know Fox's coverage can be sketchy.
Thanks for playing "really bad analogies". COVID is a virus not an army or an invading force. You're a pretty sad individual if you so desperately need someone to scapegoat.
Oh, so now it's a biological" attack"?
Did COVID-19 escape from a lab? - Alliance for Science
A frenzy of speculation has arisen around the idea that the novel coronavirus responsible for the global COVID-19 pandemic might originally have escaped from a laboratory in the Chinese city of Wuhan. While there is so far no evidence being offered to support this suggestion, the fact that the...
So if we find out it did since that article is bogus and the WORLD holds them accountable, will you change your mind? You posted the laughing emoji, so you must find it funny.
What if? You're playing what if? What if it turns out that aliens brought COVID from another planet? Get back to me when it's no longer "what the fuck if".
At this moment aliens from another planet is as probable as anything you are proposing. You don't care about facts, you've set your mind "boo hoo, bad, bad China did it". Tell me, what does it change? It doesn't change Trump's piss poor response to it. It does't change his riffing on injecting disinfectants. It doesn't change the HUGE risk Georgia is taking by opening too soon.
Unless there is widespread testing, people aren't going to be comfortable going out. So business, who can't survive on the small number of people actually going to their establishments are risking exposure to their employees and their few customers. Until we are testing millions of people per day and doing contact tracing, we're just rolling the dice. You wanna risk your life on the roll of a pair of dice?
OK, lets see what "wide spread testing" means. If I get tested this morning, test negative, and catch the virus tonight, what good did the test do?
Are you suggesting that we cannot be safe until we test 330 million people every morning before they are allowed to leave their houses?
People with symptoms are being tested every day in every state. If they are positive, they are quarantined. What TF more do you want done?
God you are such an idiot. Nothing is 100% foolproof. The goal is to limit risk and exposure. According to health experts, people returning to work would need to be tested weekly. This is the new reality for working Americans until there is a vaccine. Since you don't work, it's really not your concern, is it?
Are you aware that there has never been an effective vaccine developed for a corona virus. Hell they're still trying to develop a vaccine for SARS, no luck so far. What makes you think this one is any different?
.
Other coronaviruses - like the common cold - mutate rapidly, so it's impossible to vaccinate against them. Whether or not we can vaccinate against this depends on whether it mutates, and how quickly.
I wouldn't advise holding your breath.
.
Seawytch
Information isnt Advocacy
It depends on the risk they take by not reopening.That is not probable. Fact that it’s China’s fault is.Oh please. I don't find COVID funny, i find you laughably ignorant. COVID didn't escape from a lab.What would you call it? If I run a lab and due to my ineptness release a virus that kills 1000s. Glad you find all this death and despair funny.It is a biological attack at best due to their carelessness. NOT a scapegoat. This is their fault.China is an evil communist regime. It would be like not blaming Nazi Germany for WW2. You're an uneducated buffoon.It is absolutely the right context.You keep using that but that is not the right context. You have lost all credibility anyway when you didn't blame the Chinese Evil Communist Regime for this virus.You another one that didn't get the update? Your naked emperor said he was just joshin' about the light.Trump. Duh. Trump is to blame for the Wuhan Virus.Are you having difficulty with words. I said that unequivocally the virus ORIGINATED in China. What he wants me to admit that the virus is 100% China's "fault". He, like Trump, wants a scapegoat."Every single"You are one of the most illogical posters on here. How else should she respond? The alternate reality in which you live must be fantastic.And yet hospitals are still being overwhelmed and they will be again if we "open up" too soon.So that hospitals can be overrun. Brilliant.So Trump was for reopening Georgia, before he “strongly disagreed” with it
Trump reverses course, says it's 'too soon' for Georgia Gov. Kemp to reopen state
The president said he told Gov. Brian Kemp "I disagree strongly" with his decision to reopen nail salons and tattoo parlors — but he won't stop him.www.nbcnews.com
The whole purpose of the shutdown was to keep hospitals from being overrun, mission accomplished, time to get back to work.
.
Oh, we didn't spend this time ramping up our medical ability to respond to the virus?
Or you're just too dense to have noticed?
Interesting how you "know facts" we're supposed to base everything on which no one else knows.
No, what's really interesting is how you keep expecting people who actually know you to take you seriously.
Interesting that you feel the need to respond to every one of my posts with some stupid ad hominem or non sequitur. Creepy stalker much?
ROFLMAO...this, coming from the guy who accuses every single person he does not agree with of being a "foreigner". You've got zero credibility when speaking of anyone else's logic.
Nope. More hyperbole from you.
Zero cred? I disagree again. You cannot even admit that COVID-19 originated in China. Sad.
I can, very easily and with no problem state unequivocally that the virus originated in China. What I do not do, and that causes you to stomp your little feet and wave your little fists, is blame China for COVID.
So you think China stopping domestic travel in and out of Wuhan while they allowed international travel, to and from Wuhan, was by accident?
.
Apparently China intentionally allowed the virus to get out of their mainland, who else is there to blame? They were aware of the virus as early as mid Oct or early Nov and alerted no one.
.
No, Trump is to blame for the piss poor response the United States has had to the virus...and for not simply shutting the fuck up and letting doctors and health experts handle the daily COVID briefings. They don't say stupid shit like shine light and shove disinfectant up your ass.
The "shining light" is currently under development in CO, it's UV light emitting diodes inserted in the tubing of respirators in the trachea, to kill bugs in the air. I currently have a UV system on my water supply, and it's very effective. Also expect to see the government to require UV systems on commercial AVAC units, it's coming.
.
Trump really does make fools out of you all on a regular basis.
Wow, deflection form a commie, who'd a thunk? Care to address what I actually said?
.
What deflection? You can stop trying to cover for the moron. He said he was "kidding" (although we all know he wasn't)
are you really so stupid that you think he was telling people to drink lysol and clorox? I understand that a sense of humor and liberalism do not exist in the same person. You, winger, and a few others confirm the defective liberal gene theory every day on this board.
No. I was employing hyperbole. Damn close though...
“I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in a minute. One minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning? Because you see it gets in the lungs, and it does a tremendous number on the lungs. So it would be interesting to check that,”
do you understand the meaning of the words "something like that" ?
Do you understand that we know your emperor has no clothes no matter how often you try to describe what you think he's wearing?
I'm really not concerned that a troll on tje internet doesn't think I have "credibility" simply because I won't jump on his "blame China" train.
Hey, did you hea r you're not immune even though you claim you had COVID? Just an "FYI". I know Fox's coverage can be sketchy.
Thanks for playing "really bad analogies". COVID is a virus not an army or an invading force. You're a pretty sad individual if you so desperately need someone to scapegoat.
Oh, so now it's a biological" attack"?
Did COVID-19 escape from a lab? - Alliance for Science
A frenzy of speculation has arisen around the idea that the novel coronavirus responsible for the global COVID-19 pandemic might originally have escaped from a laboratory in the Chinese city of Wuhan. While there is so far no evidence being offered to support this suggestion, the fact that the...
So if we find out it did since that article is bogus and the WORLD holds them accountable, will you change your mind? You posted the laughing emoji, so you must find it funny.
What if? You're playing what if? What if it turns out that aliens brought COVID from another planet? Get back to me when it's no longer "what the fuck if".
At this moment aliens from another planet is as probable as anything you are proposing. You don't care about facts, you've set your mind "boo hoo, bad, bad China did it". Tell me, what does it change? It doesn't change Trump's piss poor response to it. It does't change his riffing on injecting disinfectants. It doesn't change the HUGE risk Georgia is taking by opening too soon.
Unless there is widespread testing, people aren't going to be comfortable going out. So business, who can't survive on the small number of people actually going to their establishments are risking exposure to their employees and their few customers. Until we are testing millions of people per day and doing contact tracing, we're just rolling the dice. You wanna risk your life on the roll of a pair of dice?
OK, lets see what "wide spread testing" means. If I get tested this morning, test negative, and catch the virus tonight, what good did the test do?
Are you suggesting that we cannot be safe until we test 330 million people every morning before they are allowed to leave their houses?
People with symptoms are being tested every day in every state. If they are positive, they are quarantined. What TF more do you want done?
God you are such an idiot. Nothing is 100% foolproof. The goal is to limit risk and exposure. According to health experts, people returning to work would need to be tested weekly. This is the new reality for working Americans until there is a vaccine. Since you don't work, it's really not your concern, is it?
Are you aware that there has never been an effective vaccine developed for a corona virus. Hell they're still trying to develop a vaccine for SARS, no luck so far. What makes you think this one is any different?
.
the common cold is a corona virus, no vaccine for that, but for this one there will be???? When pigs fly.
You and Trump should really just shut the fuck up about shit you know nothing about. And you better hope to hell you're wrong or get used to a new way of life.
He is right. There is no vaccine that was ever created for a COVID virus. Not sure why COVID-19 would be any different. Only saving grace is 100+ companies are working on it and are motivated. It was more profitable in the past to not have a vaccine for COVID viruses because of monies spent on cold medicine, tissues, etc. Colds usually don't kill people.It depends on the risk they take by not reopening.That is not probable. Fact that it’s China’s fault is.Oh please. I don't find COVID funny, i find you laughably ignorant. COVID didn't escape from a lab.What would you call it? If I run a lab and due to my ineptness release a virus that kills 1000s. Glad you find all this death and despair funny.It is a biological attack at best due to their carelessness. NOT a scapegoat. This is their fault.China is an evil communist regime. It would be like not blaming Nazi Germany for WW2. You're an uneducated buffoon.It is absolutely the right context.You keep using that but that is not the right context. You have lost all credibility anyway when you didn't blame the Chinese Evil Communist Regime for this virus.You another one that didn't get the update? Your naked emperor said he was just joshin' about the light.Trump. Duh. Trump is to blame for the Wuhan Virus.Are you having difficulty with words. I said that unequivocally the virus ORIGINATED in China. What he wants me to admit that the virus is 100% China's "fault". He, like Trump, wants a scapegoat."Every single"You are one of the most illogical posters on here. How else should she respond? The alternate reality in which you live must be fantastic.And yet hospitals are still being overwhelmed and they will be again if we "open up" too soon.So that hospitals can be overrun. Brilliant.So Trump was for reopening Georgia, before he “strongly disagreed” with it
Trump reverses course, says it's 'too soon' for Georgia Gov. Kemp to reopen state
The president said he told Gov. Brian Kemp "I disagree strongly" with his decision to reopen nail salons and tattoo parlors — but he won't stop him.www.nbcnews.com
The whole purpose of the shutdown was to keep hospitals from being overrun, mission accomplished, time to get back to work.
.
Oh, we didn't spend this time ramping up our medical ability to respond to the virus?
Or you're just too dense to have noticed?
Interesting how you "know facts" we're supposed to base everything on which no one else knows.
No, what's really interesting is how you keep expecting people who actually know you to take you seriously.
Interesting that you feel the need to respond to every one of my posts with some stupid ad hominem or non sequitur. Creepy stalker much?
ROFLMAO...this, coming from the guy who accuses every single person he does not agree with of being a "foreigner". You've got zero credibility when speaking of anyone else's logic.
Nope. More hyperbole from you.
Zero cred? I disagree again. You cannot even admit that COVID-19 originated in China. Sad.
I can, very easily and with no problem state unequivocally that the virus originated in China. What I do not do, and that causes you to stomp your little feet and wave your little fists, is blame China for COVID.
So you think China stopping domestic travel in and out of Wuhan while they allowed international travel, to and from Wuhan, was by accident?
.
Apparently China intentionally allowed the virus to get out of their mainland, who else is there to blame? They were aware of the virus as early as mid Oct or early Nov and alerted no one.
.
No, Trump is to blame for the piss poor response the United States has had to the virus...and for not simply shutting the fuck up and letting doctors and health experts handle the daily COVID briefings. They don't say stupid shit like shine light and shove disinfectant up your ass.
The "shining light" is currently under development in CO, it's UV light emitting diodes inserted in the tubing of respirators in the trachea, to kill bugs in the air. I currently have a UV system on my water supply, and it's very effective. Also expect to see the government to require UV systems on commercial AVAC units, it's coming.
.
Trump really does make fools out of you all on a regular basis.
Wow, deflection form a commie, who'd a thunk? Care to address what I actually said?
.
What deflection? You can stop trying to cover for the moron. He said he was "kidding" (although we all know he wasn't)
are you really so stupid that you think he was telling people to drink lysol and clorox? I understand that a sense of humor and liberalism do not exist in the same person. You, winger, and a few others confirm the defective liberal gene theory every day on this board.
No. I was employing hyperbole. Damn close though...
“I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in a minute. One minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning? Because you see it gets in the lungs, and it does a tremendous number on the lungs. So it would be interesting to check that,”
do you understand the meaning of the words "something like that" ?
Do you understand that we know your emperor has no clothes no matter how often you try to describe what you think he's wearing?
I'm really not concerned that a troll on tje internet doesn't think I have "credibility" simply because I won't jump on his "blame China" train.
Hey, did you hea r you're not immune even though you claim you had COVID? Just an "FYI". I know Fox's coverage can be sketchy.
Thanks for playing "really bad analogies". COVID is a virus not an army or an invading force. You're a pretty sad individual if you so desperately need someone to scapegoat.
Oh, so now it's a biological" attack"?
Did COVID-19 escape from a lab? - Alliance for Science
A frenzy of speculation has arisen around the idea that the novel coronavirus responsible for the global COVID-19 pandemic might originally have escaped from a laboratory in the Chinese city of Wuhan. While there is so far no evidence being offered to support this suggestion, the fact that the...
So if we find out it did since that article is bogus and the WORLD holds them accountable, will you change your mind? You posted the laughing emoji, so you must find it funny.
What if? You're playing what if? What if it turns out that aliens brought COVID from another planet? Get back to me when it's no longer "what the fuck if".
At this moment aliens from another planet is as probable as anything you are proposing. You don't care about facts, you've set your mind "boo hoo, bad, bad China did it". Tell me, what does it change? It doesn't change Trump's piss poor response to it. It does't change his riffing on injecting disinfectants. It doesn't change the HUGE risk Georgia is taking by opening too soon.
Unless there is widespread testing, people aren't going to be comfortable going out. So business, who can't survive on the small number of people actually going to their establishments are risking exposure to their employees and their few customers. Until we are testing millions of people per day and doing contact tracing, we're just rolling the dice. You wanna risk your life on the roll of a pair of dice?
OK, lets see what "wide spread testing" means. If I get tested this morning, test negative, and catch the virus tonight, what good did the test do?
Are you suggesting that we cannot be safe until we test 330 million people every morning before they are allowed to leave their houses?
People with symptoms are being tested every day in every state. If they are positive, they are quarantined. What TF more do you want done?
God you are such an idiot. Nothing is 100% foolproof. The goal is to limit risk and exposure. According to health experts, people returning to work would need to be tested weekly. This is the new reality for working Americans until there is a vaccine. Since you don't work, it's really not your concern, is it?
Are you aware that there has never been an effective vaccine developed for a corona virus. Hell they're still trying to develop a vaccine for SARS, no luck so far. What makes you think this one is any different?
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the common cold is a corona virus, no vaccine for that, but for this one there will be???? When pigs fly.
You and Trump should really just shut the fuck up about shit you know nothing about. And you better hope to hell you're wrong or get used to a new way of life.
Now pharma is more motivated. Why are you always so triggered? Where is the normal person that forced the SF Giants insignia in my sig for a week? RELAX! DAMN!
Uncensored2008
Libertarian Radical
Where did I say they were identical, Comrade?
So, 11 states are opening, and the economy is roaring back to life. Will democrats dispatch a fleet of crop dusters to spray virus all over to try and stop the horror of Trump's reelection?
Uncensored2008
Libertarian Radical
You'll be telling us it was all irrelevant in two weeks, and that the REAL spike will come in November, so we better shut things down again.
Everyone with an IQ over 20 knows that the lockdowns don't do shit, which means everyone but you. Sanitation, sanitation, sanitation. Stay back from anyone who might be a danger.
We can do that without destroying the economy.
Uncensored2008
Libertarian Radical
It depends on the risk they take by not reopening.That is not probable. Fact that it’s China’s fault is.Oh please. I don't find COVID funny, i find you laughably ignorant. COVID didn't escape from a lab.What would you call it? If I run a lab and due to my ineptness release a virus that kills 1000s. Glad you find all this death and despair funny.It is a biological attack at best due to their carelessness. NOT a scapegoat. This is their fault.China is an evil communist regime. It would be like not blaming Nazi Germany for WW2. You're an uneducated buffoon.It is absolutely the right context.You keep using that but that is not the right context. You have lost all credibility anyway when you didn't blame the Chinese Evil Communist Regime for this virus.You another one that didn't get the update? Your naked emperor said he was just joshin' about the light.Trump. Duh. Trump is to blame for the Wuhan Virus.Are you having difficulty with words. I said that unequivocally the virus ORIGINATED in China. What he wants me to admit that the virus is 100% China's "fault". He, like Trump, wants a scapegoat."Every single"You are one of the most illogical posters on here. How else should she respond? The alternate reality in which you live must be fantastic.And yet hospitals are still being overwhelmed and they will be again if we "open up" too soon.So that hospitals can be overrun. Brilliant.So Trump was for reopening Georgia, before he “strongly disagreed” with it
Trump reverses course, says it's 'too soon' for Georgia Gov. Kemp to reopen state
The president said he told Gov. Brian Kemp "I disagree strongly" with his decision to reopen nail salons and tattoo parlors — but he won't stop him.www.nbcnews.com
The whole purpose of the shutdown was to keep hospitals from being overrun, mission accomplished, time to get back to work.
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Oh, we didn't spend this time ramping up our medical ability to respond to the virus?
Or you're just too dense to have noticed?
Interesting how you "know facts" we're supposed to base everything on which no one else knows.
No, what's really interesting is how you keep expecting people who actually know you to take you seriously.
Interesting that you feel the need to respond to every one of my posts with some stupid ad hominem or non sequitur. Creepy stalker much?
ROFLMAO...this, coming from the guy who accuses every single person he does not agree with of being a "foreigner". You've got zero credibility when speaking of anyone else's logic.
Nope. More hyperbole from you.
Zero cred? I disagree again. You cannot even admit that COVID-19 originated in China. Sad.
I can, very easily and with no problem state unequivocally that the virus originated in China. What I do not do, and that causes you to stomp your little feet and wave your little fists, is blame China for COVID.
So you think China stopping domestic travel in and out of Wuhan while they allowed international travel, to and from Wuhan, was by accident?
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Apparently China intentionally allowed the virus to get out of their mainland, who else is there to blame? They were aware of the virus as early as mid Oct or early Nov and alerted no one.
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No, Trump is to blame for the piss poor response the United States has had to the virus...and for not simply shutting the fuck up and letting doctors and health experts handle the daily COVID briefings. They don't say stupid shit like shine light and shove disinfectant up your ass.
The "shining light" is currently under development in CO, it's UV light emitting diodes inserted in the tubing of respirators in the trachea, to kill bugs in the air. I currently have a UV system on my water supply, and it's very effective. Also expect to see the government to require UV systems on commercial AVAC units, it's coming.
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Trump really does make fools out of you all on a regular basis.
Wow, deflection form a commie, who'd a thunk? Care to address what I actually said?
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What deflection? You can stop trying to cover for the moron. He said he was "kidding" (although we all know he wasn't)
are you really so stupid that you think he was telling people to drink lysol and clorox? I understand that a sense of humor and liberalism do not exist in the same person. You, winger, and a few others confirm the defective liberal gene theory every day on this board.
No. I was employing hyperbole. Damn close though...
“I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in a minute. One minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning? Because you see it gets in the lungs, and it does a tremendous number on the lungs. So it would be interesting to check that,”
do you understand the meaning of the words "something like that" ?
Do you understand that we know your emperor has no clothes no matter how often you try to describe what you think he's wearing?
I'm really not concerned that a troll on tje internet doesn't think I have "credibility" simply because I won't jump on his "blame China" train.
Hey, did you hea r you're not immune even though you claim you had COVID? Just an "FYI". I know Fox's coverage can be sketchy.
Thanks for playing "really bad analogies". COVID is a virus not an army or an invading force. You're a pretty sad individual if you so desperately need someone to scapegoat.
Oh, so now it's a biological" attack"?
Did COVID-19 escape from a lab? - Alliance for Science
A frenzy of speculation has arisen around the idea that the novel coronavirus responsible for the global COVID-19 pandemic might originally have escaped from a laboratory in the Chinese city of Wuhan. While there is so far no evidence being offered to support this suggestion, the fact that the...
So if we find out it did since that article is bogus and the WORLD holds them accountable, will you change your mind? You posted the laughing emoji, so you must find it funny.
What if? You're playing what if? What if it turns out that aliens brought COVID from another planet? Get back to me when it's no longer "what the fuck if".
At this moment aliens from another planet is as probable as anything you are proposing. You don't care about facts, you've set your mind "boo hoo, bad, bad China did it". Tell me, what does it change? It doesn't change Trump's piss poor response to it. It does't change his riffing on injecting disinfectants. It doesn't change the HUGE risk Georgia is taking by opening too soon.
Unless there is widespread testing, people aren't going to be comfortable going out. So business, who can't survive on the small number of people actually going to their establishments are risking exposure to their employees and their few customers. Until we are testing millions of people per day and doing contact tracing, we're just rolling the dice. You wanna risk your life on the roll of a pair of dice?
OK, lets see what "wide spread testing" means. If I get tested this morning, test negative, and catch the virus tonight, what good did the test do?
Are you suggesting that we cannot be safe until we test 330 million people every morning before they are allowed to leave their houses?
People with symptoms are being tested every day in every state. If they are positive, they are quarantined. What TF more do you want done?
God you are such an idiot. Nothing is 100% foolproof. The goal is to limit risk and exposure. According to health experts, people returning to work would need to be tested weekly. This is the new reality for working Americans until there is a vaccine. Since you don't work, it's really not your concern, is it?
Are you aware that there has never been an effective vaccine developed for a corona virus. Hell they're still trying to develop a vaccine for SARS, no luck so far. What makes you think this one is any different?
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the common cold is a corona virus, no vaccine for that, but for this one there will be???? When pigs fly.
The common cold is a rinovirus.
There will never be a vaccine for the Wuhan coronavirus. BUT an inoculation is imminent.
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People...
They don't mean a thing to Trump
They move right through him
Just like his breath
They don't mean a thing to Trump
They move right through him
Just like his breath
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