Trump, Seriously

Obama is not running for president. His use of presidential authority is questionable as has been the case with many presidents. However, there would be no question as to the unconstitutionality of Trump's proposals. For Trump the more unconstitutional, the more politically incorrect, the more racist, and the more religiously bigoted his comments are, the more his supporters love him. They want a kick ass president as Palin commented. They don't want somebody that's going to let a constitutional amendment, law, or the courts stop him.


...and I would add that Trump rhetoric is absurd simply because unless he declares himself tyrant, his "I will do this and that...." neglects the separation of powers that (wisely) the Founders placed in our Constitution to PRECISELY hold in check the rise of a unilateral decision-maker. In short, Trump is full of crap and his moronic followers are dolts for not seeing through the crap.

Is Obama making a law allowing gays to get married and then getting Supreme Court to rubberstamp it....without ANY consultation with Congress, is that within the Constitution or not?

What about Obama's drones that he has targeting and often killing American citizens, is that within the Constitution or not?
So your point is Trump unconstitutional proposals are OK because of Obama's unconstitutional actions..:cuckoo::cuckoo::cuckoo:

I'm not a Trump fan, but at least his are proposals and not like Obama's and implemented despite being unconstitutional.
 
I'm not a Trump fan, but at least his are proposals and not like Obama's and implemented despite being unconstitutional.

You know as much about the Constitution as my parakeet....STOP watching FOX, its dumbing you down to imbecility.

According to the Constitution, a president MUST act when congress has refused to do so.
 
One of the few publications I subscribe to, the print edition, is The Spectator magazine, founded in 1828. The latest issue, has The Donald on the front cover, which thankfully non-subscribers can read at their website.

So, I thought I'd post a link to it, for people to read, it's quite good I think....also, to the right of the page, the other Spectator articles and Opinion Pieces can be read, they're quite good too, so I recommend you read them.


Donald Trump offers only gloom, insults and arrogance - and America loves him for it


"Ronald Reagan wooed America with sunny optimism. From the offset, Donald Trump has offered something much darker. He began his presidential campaign on 16 June by declaring that the ‘American dream is dead.’ He said that the country was being run by ‘losers’. ‘We have people that don’t have it,’ he said. ‘We have people that are morally corrupt. We have people that are selling this country down the drain.’ He insisted that only he, Donald J. Trump, had what it took ‘to make America great again’.

This was not ‘Morning in America’; more Midnight in America. Trump’s pitch was gloom, insults and arrogance. Strangely enough, however, that turned out to be exactly what millions of American voters wanted to hear. By trashing the United States and comparing his country unfavourably to himself, Trump tapped into something deep and powerful in the American psyche. Now there are only a few days left before the presidential election process starts, and ‘The Donald’ continues to storm the polls. He probably won’t be president, but it now looks as if he probably will be the Republican nominee — the heir to Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt and Eisenhower. It’s a mind-boggling phenomenon."

Here's the full article:

Donald Trump offers only gloom, insults and arrogance - and America loves him for it
If Trump is nominated, it's going to leave a lot of Republicans out in the cold. For real conservatives, supporting Trump would be like the KKK supporting JFK.

Trump supporters are basically authoritarians who may be Republicans, Democrats, or Independents. They are looking for a kick ass president whose not going to let the little things like the constitution, laws, courts, or world opinion stand in his way.
True.

Trump appeals to the 'go with your gut' mentality that disdains critical thinking, facts, and rational discourse.
 
One of the few publications I subscribe to, the print edition, is The Spectator magazine, founded in 1828. The latest issue, has The Donald on the front cover, which thankfully non-subscribers can read at their website.

So, I thought I'd post a link to it, for people to read, it's quite good I think....also, to the right of the page, the other Spectator articles and Opinion Pieces can be read, they're quite good too, so I recommend you read them.


Donald Trump offers only gloom, insults and arrogance - and America loves him for it


"Ronald Reagan wooed America with sunny optimism. From the offset, Donald Trump has offered something much darker. He began his presidential campaign on 16 June by declaring that the ‘American dream is dead.’ He said that the country was being run by ‘losers’. ‘We have people that don’t have it,’ he said. ‘We have people that are morally corrupt. We have people that are selling this country down the drain.’ He insisted that only he, Donald J. Trump, had what it took ‘to make America great again’.

This was not ‘Morning in America’; more Midnight in America. Trump’s pitch was gloom, insults and arrogance. Strangely enough, however, that turned out to be exactly what millions of American voters wanted to hear. By trashing the United States and comparing his country unfavourably to himself, Trump tapped into something deep and powerful in the American psyche. Now there are only a few days left before the presidential election process starts, and ‘The Donald’ continues to storm the polls. He probably won’t be president, but it now looks as if he probably will be the Republican nominee — the heir to Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt and Eisenhower. It’s a mind-boggling phenomenon."

Here's the full article:

Donald Trump offers only gloom, insults and arrogance - and America loves him for it
If Trump is nominated, it's going to leave a lot of Republicans out in the cold. For real conservatives, supporting Trump would be like the KKK supporting JFK.

Trump supporters are basically authoritarians who may be Republicans, Democrats, or Independents. They are looking for a kick ass president whose not going to let the little things like the constitution, laws, courts, or world opinion stand in his way.

Huh? Like Obama has cared about the Constitution, laws, courts or world opinion.
Obama is not running for president. His use of presidential authority is questionable as has been the case with many presidents. However, there would be no question as to the unconstitutionality of Trump's proposals. For Trump the more unconstitutional, the more politically incorrect, the more racist, and the more religiously bigoted his comments are, the more his supporters love him. They want a kick ass president as Palin commented. They don't want somebody that's going to let a constitutional amendment, law, or the courts stop him.

Obama is not running for President, this is your response to him spending pretty much both terms ignoring Constitution, laws, courts and world opinion?

Have you noticed how popular Donald Trump is, not only in America but also in Europa? No, probably you haven't.
No, it's responding to you that it is a lie to maintain that the president has ignored the Constitution, laws, courts, and world opinion.
 
I'm not a Trump fan, but at least his are proposals and not like Obama's and implemented despite being unconstitutional.

You know as much about the Constitution as my parakeet....STOP watching FOX, its dumbing you down to imbecility.

According to the Constitution, a president MUST act when congress has refused to do so.

:bsflag:
Where does it say that? You are entitled to your own opinions but you do not get to create your own facts.

That might be in Mao's Little Red Book, but is not in the Constitution.

At least I can back up what i said with the Supreme Court telling Obama where to get off!
 
One of the few publications I subscribe to, the print edition, is The Spectator magazine, founded in 1828. The latest issue, has The Donald on the front cover, which thankfully non-subscribers can read at their website.

So, I thought I'd post a link to it, for people to read, it's quite good I think....also, to the right of the page, the other Spectator articles and Opinion Pieces can be read, they're quite good too, so I recommend you read them.


Donald Trump offers only gloom, insults and arrogance - and America loves him for it


"Ronald Reagan wooed America with sunny optimism. From the offset, Donald Trump has offered something much darker. He began his presidential campaign on 16 June by declaring that the ‘American dream is dead.’ He said that the country was being run by ‘losers’. ‘We have people that don’t have it,’ he said. ‘We have people that are morally corrupt. We have people that are selling this country down the drain.’ He insisted that only he, Donald J. Trump, had what it took ‘to make America great again’.

This was not ‘Morning in America’; more Midnight in America. Trump’s pitch was gloom, insults and arrogance. Strangely enough, however, that turned out to be exactly what millions of American voters wanted to hear. By trashing the United States and comparing his country unfavourably to himself, Trump tapped into something deep and powerful in the American psyche. Now there are only a few days left before the presidential election process starts, and ‘The Donald’ continues to storm the polls. He probably won’t be president, but it now looks as if he probably will be the Republican nominee — the heir to Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt and Eisenhower. It’s a mind-boggling phenomenon."

Here's the full article:

Donald Trump offers only gloom, insults and arrogance - and America loves him for it
If Trump is nominated, it's going to leave a lot of Republicans out in the cold. For real conservatives, supporting Trump would be like the KKK supporting JFK.

Trump supporters are basically authoritarians who may be Republicans, Democrats, or Independents. They are looking for a kick ass president whose not going to let the little things like the constitution, laws, courts, or world opinion stand in his way.

Huh? Like Obama has cared about the Constitution, laws, courts or world opinion.
Obama is not running for president. His use of presidential authority is questionable as has been the case with many presidents. However, there would be no question as to the unconstitutionality of Trump's proposals. For Trump the more unconstitutional, the more politically incorrect, the more racist, and the more religiously bigoted his comments are, the more his supporters love him. They want a kick ass president as Palin commented. They don't want somebody that's going to let a constitutional amendment, law, or the courts stop him.

Obama is not running for President, this is your response to him spending pretty much both terms ignoring Constitution, laws, courts and world opinion?

Have you noticed how popular Donald Trump is, not only in America but also in Europa? No, probably you haven't.
Trump's popularity is an illusion created by polls focusing on Republican primaries.

He is clearly the leader in Republican primary polling across the country with 32% to 36% of Republican voters favoring him. The other side of the coin is 64% to 68% of Republican voters do not favor him.

Among both Democrats and Independents, he is incredibly unpopular, a -27 net favorably among independents and a -70 point among Democrats according to Gallup polls conducted in Dec 1, 2015 to Jan 11, 2016.

RealClearPolitics - Election 2016 - 2016 Republican Presidential Nomination
Donald Trump Is Really Unpopular With General Election Voters.
i think he has an even a bigger following than the polls project, lot's of people do.
 
Where does it say that? You are entitled to your own opinions but you do not get to create your own facts.

Article II, Section 1 of the Constitution grants to the President the "executive Power." Section 3 of Article II further directs the President to "take care that [such] laws (including EOs) be faithfully executed."
 
Which Country's Constitution have you been reading? 'cause it certainly isn't the one that we use in the United States.

Again, Article II, Section 1 of the Constitution grants to the President the "executive Power."

Obama has REPEATEDLY asked congress to act on immigration policies, on background checks when purchasing guns, and on "improving" the ACA...all to NO avail because the cowardly republican-led congress represents ONLY special interests and are thoroughly bribed by lobbyists that threaten their re-election.
 

Various clauses of the U.S. Constitution have been cited to support the issuance of executive orders. Among them are the Vestiture Clause, which states, "The executive Power shall be vested in a President of the United States of America" (art. II, § 1, cl. 1); the Take Care Clause, which states that the president "shall take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed" (art. II, § 3); and the Commander in Chief Clause, which states that the president "shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several States, when called into the actual Service of the United States" (art. II, § 2, cl. 1).
 
MPs divided in debate on whether to ban Donald Trump from the UK


The Labour MP also suggested Mr Trump could use a future visit to the UK to point out the London neighbourhoods he claimed were no-go areas.

Conservative Sir Edward Leigh warned that banning the Republican would only “play into Mr Trump’s hands”.

Paul Scully, Conservative MP for Sutton and Cheam, said he had never heard of a case for banning someone from the UK for “stupidity”.

But Labour's Tulip Siddiq claimed there had been a rise in hate crimes since Mr Trump's comments and branded him a "corrosive and poisonous man".

She said: "His words are not comical. His words are not funny. His words are poisonous. They risk inflaming tension between vulnerable communities.

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MPs divided in debate on whether to ban Donald Trump from the UK

No one visits Great Britain, no one travels to it, no one needs to go there, and no one cares if they get banned from going there.
 

Various clauses of the U.S. Constitution have been cited to support the issuance of executive orders. Among them are the Vestiture Clause, which states, "The executive Power shall be vested in a President of the United States of America" (art. II, § 1, cl. 1); the Take Care Clause, which states that the president "shall take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed" (art. II, § 3); and the Commander in Chief Clause, which states that the president "shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several States, when called into the actual Service of the United States" (art. II, § 2, cl. 1).

I know in your little authoritarian mind executive power means the right to dictate how things are going to be but if you read a little more (something I doubt you can do) it says executive power to enforce existing laws. I'm sure before democracy kings had all sorts of executive powers that you think the president should have but I actually think we shouldn't live in a dictatorship.
 
For all you irate right wingers regarding Obama's executive orders, and as I've stated before........Obama would have to issue SEVEN or EIGHT EOs PER MONTH to catch up to George W. Bush's number of EOs.

I realize that you like EO when a republican issues them and pissed off when a democratic president does the same thing.....but look up in a dictionary the term "hypocrisy" and then put a cork in your anger.
 
it says executive power to enforce existing laws


Stupid response.......

Placing Japanese-Americans in camps during WWII was an Executive Order....so, then, cite the "existing law" that such internment was enforcing....
 

Various clauses of the U.S. Constitution have been cited to support the issuance of executive orders. Among them are the Vestiture Clause, which states, "The executive Power shall be vested in a President of the United States of America" (art. II, § 1, cl. 1); the Take Care Clause, which states that the president "shall take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed" (art. II, § 3); and the Commander in Chief Clause, which states that the president "shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several States, when called into the actual Service of the United States" (art. II, § 2, cl. 1).
Correct.

And that charges the president with the responsibility to enforce the law, including prosecutorial discretion, an interpretive authority, and establishing enforcement mechanisms through executive orders.

Moreover, such orders are lawful and Constitutional until such time as the Supreme Court rules otherwise.

The notion that executive orders manifest as the president 'making law' or 'going around' Congress is as ignorant as it is ridiculous and wrong.
 
Which Country's Constitution have you been reading? 'cause it certainly isn't the one that we use in the United States.

Again, Article II, Section 1 of the Constitution grants to the President the "executive Power."
No shit Sherlock but that doesn't mean as you claim "if congress fails to act the President MUST act". You need to go take a civics class because your claim makes it apparent that you do not understand the mechanics of how our system of government functions or what the U.S. Constitution represents. Executive Power means that President is empowered to carry out and enforce laws which are duly enacted; passed by the legislative branch and signed into law by the executive branch; the President doesn't get to enact laws unilaterally since if it worked that way there would be no need for Congress and we'd have a de facto dictatorship.

Your claim is simply ludicrous.

Obama has REPEATEDLY asked congress to act on immigration policies, on background checks when purchasing guns, and on "improving" the ACA...all to NO avail because the cowardly republican-led congress represents ONLY special interests and are thoroughly bribed by lobbyists that threaten their re-election.
Guess what, being the President doesn't come with an EASY button whereby the President can just do whatever the hell he wants because the opposition OPPOSES his desires, he doesn't get to become a dictator by virtue of Congress not acceding to his demands.
 
"Trump, Seriously"

Trump isn't a serious candidate – that's the pathetic punchline to the joke that is his 'running' for president.
he's serious enough to get my vote, not a poser like the democrats.


The Donald of 2004


"In many cases, I probably identify more as Democrat," Trump told CNN's Wolf Blitzer in a 2004 interview. "It just seems that the economy does better under the Democrats than the Republicans. Now, it shouldn't be that way. But if you go back, I mean it just seems that the economy does better under the Democrats. ...But certainly we had some very good economies under Democrats, as well as Republicans. But we've had some pretty bad disaster under the Republicans."

"Hillary's always surrounded herself with very good people. I think Hillary would do a good job," Trump said in another interview with Blitzer.


Link and video @


Donald Trump: 'I probably identify more as Democrat' - CNNPolitics.com
 

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