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Your fake news tell you this?CO2 regulations will cease to exist....PM2.5 will cease to exist....I remember growing up in a small town in Western Colorado where the snow was black. Anyone with any type of lung problems had to move out of the area. Small children had to be kept indoors when it got bad. It was from the local Sugar Beet Factory. They were told that they had to go to Natural Gas to stay in business so they tore out all the coal feeders from the burners (they melted them down) and installed Natural Gas Jets. Then Natural Gas went sky high for a few years and they said they couldn't stay in business. In order to keep using Coal, they had to install the proper scrubbers that made Coal unprofitable. The Factory closed down and it devistated the community. It was the main source of income and labor. Today, the town has about the same population and the air is fit to breath. England and China have yet to figure that out and you can see what it's doing both places.
The only way that coal is viable is if the proper scrubbers are used.
I will say this is a good post, Where I grew up it was the same. Coal has to be burned in an efficient way to be viable, But the BTU return per dollar is better than any fuel. The waste also has to be handled properly. The coal from Powder river absin is some of the cleanest burning in the continental US with proper mixture it can be used with the eastern mined coal to achieve almost the same BTU and much less output of sulfur Dioxides too. The process of pulverizing the coal to minute particles and high pressure introduction and extreme burn temperatures made the burn much cleaner too. As stated the oshit-ma administration regulated the coal industry out, Probably so he could set up the "Green energy initiative" to funnel billions of taxpayer dollars to his comrades, and the dnc. slime ass gore took 100 million dollars (NET 98 good return on 2 mil) out of JUST one of the companies that got a billion or so when it went belly up as it was designed to do by the dnc and the government thieves in office. Don't you figure That paid the bill for all of the next elections and put lots in the pockets of the players.
It's more than that. You simplify it. It's not the powdering it that you have to worry about, it's the CO2, Sulphur Dioxide and Carbon it belches out the stacks. It takes Scrubbers to trap these and the Scrubbers are expensive to buy and maintain. When they find a cheap way to do that then coal takes over with a vengence. But not until then.
Coal will rule....the democrat war on coal is over....
And we go back to the time when the air was fit to breath only a few days a month. I have seen the before and after shots of Pittsburg where it showed the 1950s V the 1980s. I doubt if the ones that live there want to go back to the "Good Old Days".
Just the mining of coal is polluting the environment - especially air and water. Mountaintop mining is an atrocity.
It's the democrats regulations....and they are over now....Just the mining of coal is polluting the environment - especially air and water. Mountaintop mining is an atrocity.
You are wrong. I live in Coal Country and the mining isn't the problem. It's the burning of it that is without the proper scrubbers. Find a cheaper and better way than the existing scrubbers and coal will make one hell of a comeback. I like to be able to go outside 365 days a year instead of some of the days, myself.
Just the mining of coal is polluting the environment - especially air and water. Mountaintop mining is an atrocity.
Your fake news tell you this?CO2 regulations will cease to exist....PM2.5 will cease to exist....I remember growing up in a small town in Western Colorado where the snow was black. Anyone with any type of lung problems had to move out of the area. Small children had to be kept indoors when it got bad. It was from the local Sugar Beet Factory. They were told that they had to go to Natural Gas to stay in business so they tore out all the coal feeders from the burners (they melted them down) and installed Natural Gas Jets. Then Natural Gas went sky high for a few years and they said they couldn't stay in business. In order to keep using Coal, they had to install the proper scrubbers that made Coal unprofitable. The Factory closed down and it devistated the community. It was the main source of income and labor. Today, the town has about the same population and the air is fit to breath. England and China have yet to figure that out and you can see what it's doing both places.
The only way that coal is viable is if the proper scrubbers are used.
I will say this is a good post, Where I grew up it was the same. Coal has to be burned in an efficient way to be viable, But the BTU return per dollar is better than any fuel. The waste also has to be handled properly. The coal from Powder river absin is some of the cleanest burning in the continental US with proper mixture it can be used with the eastern mined coal to achieve almost the same BTU and much less output of sulfur Dioxides too. The process of pulverizing the coal to minute particles and high pressure introduction and extreme burn temperatures made the burn much cleaner too. As stated the oshit-ma administration regulated the coal industry out, Probably so he could set up the "Green energy initiative" to funnel billions of taxpayer dollars to his comrades, and the dnc. slime ass gore took 100 million dollars (NET 98 good return on 2 mil) out of JUST one of the companies that got a billion or so when it went belly up as it was designed to do by the dnc and the government thieves in office. Don't you figure That paid the bill for all of the next elections and put lots in the pockets of the players.
It's more than that. You simplify it. It's not the powdering it that you have to worry about, it's the CO2, Sulphur Dioxide and Carbon it belches out the stacks. It takes Scrubbers to trap these and the Scrubbers are expensive to buy and maintain. When they find a cheap way to do that then coal takes over with a vengence. But not until then.
Coal will rule....the democrat war on coal is over....
And we go back to the time when the air was fit to breath only a few days a month. I have seen the before and after shots of Pittsburg where it showed the 1950s V the 1980s. I doubt if the ones that live there want to go back to the "Good Old Days".
Your fake news tell you this?CO2 regulations will cease to exist....PM2.5 will cease to exist....I will say this is a good post, Where I grew up it was the same. Coal has to be burned in an efficient way to be viable, But the BTU return per dollar is better than any fuel. The waste also has to be handled properly. The coal from Powder river absin is some of the cleanest burning in the continental US with proper mixture it can be used with the eastern mined coal to achieve almost the same BTU and much less output of sulfur Dioxides too. The process of pulverizing the coal to minute particles and high pressure introduction and extreme burn temperatures made the burn much cleaner too. As stated the oshit-ma administration regulated the coal industry out, Probably so he could set up the "Green energy initiative" to funnel billions of taxpayer dollars to his comrades, and the dnc. slime ass gore took 100 million dollars (NET 98 good return on 2 mil) out of JUST one of the companies that got a billion or so when it went belly up as it was designed to do by the dnc and the government thieves in office. Don't you figure That paid the bill for all of the next elections and put lots in the pockets of the players.
It's more than that. You simplify it. It's not the powdering it that you have to worry about, it's the CO2, Sulphur Dioxide and Carbon it belches out the stacks. It takes Scrubbers to trap these and the Scrubbers are expensive to buy and maintain. When they find a cheap way to do that then coal takes over with a vengence. But not until then.
Coal will rule....the democrat war on coal is over....
And we go back to the time when the air was fit to breath only a few days a month. I have seen the before and after shots of Pittsburg where it showed the 1950s V the 1980s. I doubt if the ones that live there want to go back to the "Good Old Days".
Fake news? How about a lifetime of living in Coal Country and watching it snow black snow. The Snow is white once again and we need to keep it that way. You reject science as much as the other side only pays attention to the science that agrees with their views.
The hippies have been working just as hard to stop LNG terminals, retard.Coal exports are only 7 percent of what we mine, dumbass.BWA-HA-HA-HA!Automation? You have no idea what you're taking about. I'm from coal country. My grandfather was a coal miner and two of my cousins are mine engineers. Automation has NOTHING to do with it. Obama regulation is 100% to blame.
What a sap you are. It has nothing to do with regulation, and everything to do with cheaper natural gas.
Cheap Natural Gas To Spark Another Wave Of Coal Plant Retirements
“Cheap natural gas is killing coal.” While that headline has been written dozens of times over the last few years, it continues to be true. In fact, natural gas has become even cheaper over the past year, and the slow death of coal is poised to accelerate.
Cheaper Natural Gas Lets Nucor Factory Rise Again on Bayou
Lower-priced natural gas has energized many parts of the country and the economy. Chemical and fertilizer companies, which use gas as both a feedstock and energy source, say lower prices have reduced costs and made the U.S. a more competitive manufacturing location.
Market Trends Electricity
The relatively low cost of natural gas makes the dispatching of existing natural gas plants more competitive with coal plants and, in combination with relatively low capital costs, makes plants fueled by natural gas an alternative choice for new generation capacity.
U.S. forecasts natural gas boom through 2040
America's energy boom will continue for decades, and natural gas will replace coal as the largest source of U.S. electricity by 2035, the Department of Energy forecast today.
You can't be this stupid. Ever see a LNG carrier shipping natural gas across the ocean? Not cheap. On the other hand, any cargo ship can carry coal...and that was exactly what was happening...U.S. exports its greenhouse-gas emissions — as coal. Profitable coal.
...until OBAMA REGULATION struck again.
U.S. Strikes Deal to Block Coal Plants Worldwide
Now, what were you saying again, butthurt Hillaryite?
And then there's this:
How much coal does the U.S. export and import? | American Geosciences Institute
Coal exports have decreased since 2012 as U.S. coal production has declined, mostly because cheaper natural gas has decreased the demand for coal as a fuel for electricity generation
Natural gas, not regulation. Retard.
Again, due to regulation.
Army Corps of Engineers blocks giant coal export terminal at Cherry Point
US extends crackdown on coal overseas
Coal Exports Contradict Obama’s Climate Pledge, Critics Say
Obama announces moratorium on new federal coal leases
If natural gas was actually killing coal, Obama wouldn't have to do anything. The fact that he works so hard to kill coal totally undermines your argument. If you were smarter, you would have seen that.
Indigenous land defenders block LNG terminal construction
Congressmen make move to block Fall River LNG terminal
This story is Fake News. How many times did Trump vow to repeal and replace Obamacare? One hundred times? Five hundred times? A thousand times? No one who voted for Trump didn't know he was going to get rid of Obamacare. And it is ignorant for you to believe it, much less post it.
It's not "fake news". People are genuinely worried. They should have thought it through before voting for coal. jobs that are never going to come back beause of frigging automation.
Automation? You have no idea what you're taking about. I'm from coal country. My grandfather was a coal miner and two of my cousins are mine engineers. Automation has NOTHING to do with it. Obama regulation is 100% to blame.
Do you also think they are stupid and didn't understand that Repeal Obamacare meant Repeal Obamacare?
It's no wonder the Democrats lost. The think Americans are so stupid they can't understand English.
Just the mining of coal is polluting the environment - especially air and water. Mountaintop mining is an atrocity.
You are wrong. I live in Coal Country and the mining isn't the problem. It's the burning of it that is without the proper scrubbers. Find a cheaper and better way than the existing scrubbers and coal will make one hell of a comeback. I like to be able to go outside 365 days a year instead of some of the days, myself.
You lost the war on coal....now get the hell out of our way....This story is Fake News. How many times did Trump vow to repeal and replace Obamacare? One hundred times? Five hundred times? A thousand times? No one who voted for Trump didn't know he was going to get rid of Obamacare. And it is ignorant for you to believe it, much less post it.
It's not "fake news". People are genuinely worried. They should have thought it through before voting for coal. jobs that are never going to come back beause of frigging automation.
Automation? You have no idea what you're taking about. I'm from coal country. My grandfather was a coal miner and two of my cousins are mine engineers. Automation has NOTHING to do with it. Obama regulation is 100% to blame.
Do you also think they are stupid and didn't understand that Repeal Obamacare meant Repeal Obamacare?
It's no wonder the Democrats lost. The think Americans are so stupid they can't understand English.
I'm in coal country. I'm in an energy producing state.
Prove Obama's regulation is 100% to blame. Regulations make a convenient scapegoat, but are only a minor part of the problem. Instead of attacking the regulations (which ignores the real problem) and promising a return of jobs that won't come back - we should be retraining our workforce and improving our infrastructure to attract industries that can offer better paying jobs than burger flipping.
What's to blame is:
Competition from cleaner and cheaper energy (natural gas)
Competition from areas where it's easier and cheaper to extract coal than Appalachia.
Automation
Regulatory pressures
Here’s why Central Appalachia’s coal industry is dying
Why have Kentucky and West Virginia lost 38,000 coal jobs since 1983? For one, coal mining has become increasingly automated in recent decades, particularly as companies have shifted to techniques such as mountaintop-removal mining, which are less labor intensive. (An EPA crackdown on mountaintop removal in 2009 actually led to a small bump in coal employment in West Virginia.)
Another big problem for Appalachia's coal industry has been competition from cheaper, low-sulfur coal out West — particularly from Wyoming's Powder River Basin.
On top of everything else, Central Appalachia's coal now appears to be running out, as many of the thick, easy-to-mine seams have vanished. The Energy Information Administration estimates that coal production in eastern Kentucky and West Virginia will soon be just half of what it was in 2008, plunging from 234 million tons down to 112 million tons in 2015.
No Matter What Trump Says, Coal Mining Jobs Are Not Returning To West Virginia
TRUMP: 'We’re going to get those miners back to work ... the miners of West Virginia and Pennsylvania, which was so great to me last week, Ohio and all over are going to start to work again, believe me. They are going to be proud again to be miners.'Well, no, they're not, for three very good reasons. Firstly, clean coal doesn't work and there's serious doubt that it ever will. And even if clean coal can be made to work it will always be easier to perform the same trick with the CO2 emissions from using natural gas instead. But perhaps technological explanations aren't convincing.
Secondly, there's easier coal out there than those Appalachian mines like the strip mining out west for example. Once mines have closed you don't reopen them if cheaper alternatives exist. You might keep running them because of sunk costs, but you don't start again when cheaper alternatives are elsewhere. But okay, maybe technical stuff from the world of mining also isn't convincing.
The third reason is the killer: economics. Fracking has made natural gas cheaper than coal for power generation. Thus new generations of power plants are going to be gas ones, not coal. And refurbs and life extensions of coal plants aren't going to happen for the same reason. There's just not going to be anything like the same market for thermal coal in the future.
Awesome pics!!! Thanks!!!! Progress is awesome....Just the mining of coal is polluting the environment - especially air and water. Mountaintop mining is an atrocity.
You are wrong. I live in Coal Country and the mining isn't the problem. It's the burning of it that is without the proper scrubbers. Find a cheaper and better way than the existing scrubbers and coal will make one hell of a comeback. I like to be able to go outside 365 days a year instead of some of the days, myself.
Look, sonny, I know about scrubbers - but mountaintop removal mining is an atrocity. It's a major polluter of air and water. I also live in coal country.
Just the mining of coal is polluting the environment - especially air and water. Mountaintop mining is an atrocity.
You are wrong. I live in Coal Country and the mining isn't the problem. It's the burning of it that is without the proper scrubbers. Find a cheaper and better way than the existing scrubbers and coal will make one hell of a comeback. I like to be able to go outside 365 days a year instead of some of the days, myself.
Look, sonny, I know about scrubbers - but mountaintop removal mining is an atrocity. It's a major polluter of air and water. I also live in coal country.
You lost the war on coal....now get the hell out of our way....This story is Fake News. How many times did Trump vow to repeal and replace Obamacare? One hundred times? Five hundred times? A thousand times? No one who voted for Trump didn't know he was going to get rid of Obamacare. And it is ignorant for you to believe it, much less post it.
It's not "fake news". People are genuinely worried. They should have thought it through before voting for coal. jobs that are never going to come back beause of frigging automation.
Automation? You have no idea what you're taking about. I'm from coal country. My grandfather was a coal miner and two of my cousins are mine engineers. Automation has NOTHING to do with it. Obama regulation is 100% to blame.
Do you also think they are stupid and didn't understand that Repeal Obamacare meant Repeal Obamacare?
It's no wonder the Democrats lost. The think Americans are so stupid they can't understand English.
I'm in coal country. I'm in an energy producing state.
Prove Obama's regulation is 100% to blame. Regulations make a convenient scapegoat, but are only a minor part of the problem. Instead of attacking the regulations (which ignores the real problem) and promising a return of jobs that won't come back - we should be retraining our workforce and improving our infrastructure to attract industries that can offer better paying jobs than burger flipping.
What's to blame is:
Competition from cleaner and cheaper energy (natural gas)
Competition from areas where it's easier and cheaper to extract coal than Appalachia.
Automation
Regulatory pressures
Here’s why Central Appalachia’s coal industry is dying
Why have Kentucky and West Virginia lost 38,000 coal jobs since 1983? For one, coal mining has become increasingly automated in recent decades, particularly as companies have shifted to techniques such as mountaintop-removal mining, which are less labor intensive. (An EPA crackdown on mountaintop removal in 2009 actually led to a small bump in coal employment in West Virginia.)
Another big problem for Appalachia's coal industry has been competition from cheaper, low-sulfur coal out West — particularly from Wyoming's Powder River Basin.
On top of everything else, Central Appalachia's coal now appears to be running out, as many of the thick, easy-to-mine seams have vanished. The Energy Information Administration estimates that coal production in eastern Kentucky and West Virginia will soon be just half of what it was in 2008, plunging from 234 million tons down to 112 million tons in 2015.
No Matter What Trump Says, Coal Mining Jobs Are Not Returning To West Virginia
TRUMP: 'We’re going to get those miners back to work ... the miners of West Virginia and Pennsylvania, which was so great to me last week, Ohio and all over are going to start to work again, believe me. They are going to be proud again to be miners.'Well, no, they're not, for three very good reasons. Firstly, clean coal doesn't work and there's serious doubt that it ever will. And even if clean coal can be made to work it will always be easier to perform the same trick with the CO2 emissions from using natural gas instead. But perhaps technological explanations aren't convincing.
Secondly, there's easier coal out there than those Appalachian mines like the strip mining out west for example. Once mines have closed you don't reopen them if cheaper alternatives exist. You might keep running them because of sunk costs, but you don't start again when cheaper alternatives are elsewhere. But okay, maybe technical stuff from the world of mining also isn't convincing.
The third reason is the killer: economics. Fracking has made natural gas cheaper than coal for power generation. Thus new generations of power plants are going to be gas ones, not coal. And refurbs and life extensions of coal plants aren't going to happen for the same reason. There's just not going to be anything like the same market for thermal coal in the future.
Awesome pics!!! Thanks!!!! Progress is awesome....Just the mining of coal is polluting the environment - especially air and water. Mountaintop mining is an atrocity.
You are wrong. I live in Coal Country and the mining isn't the problem. It's the burning of it that is without the proper scrubbers. Find a cheaper and better way than the existing scrubbers and coal will make one hell of a comeback. I like to be able to go outside 365 days a year instead of some of the days, myself.
Look, sonny, I know about scrubbers - but mountaintop removal mining is an atrocity. It's a major polluter of air and water. I also live in coal country.
The coal miners are all for living off the gummit. Trump explicitly or implicitly said he'd continue handouts. That's the issue.Just the mining of coal is polluting the environment - especially air and water. Mountaintop mining is an atrocity.
Yes we know. You want them to lose their jobs and live off the government. It's not shocking they didn't support that
You'll never even know it happened when they are done....stupid fucktard liberal....Just the mining of coal is polluting the environment - especially air and water. Mountaintop mining is an atrocity.
You are wrong. I live in Coal Country and the mining isn't the problem. It's the burning of it that is without the proper scrubbers. Find a cheaper and better way than the existing scrubbers and coal will make one hell of a comeback. I like to be able to go outside 365 days a year instead of some of the days, myself.
Look, sonny, I know about scrubbers - but mountaintop removal mining is an atrocity. It's a major polluter of air and water. I also live in coal country.
Mountain top removal will destroy our state.
Fake newsFrom the OP link:
Which raises a question: Did voters such as these know they were voting for this? After all, Trump promised countless times throughout the campaign to repeal the Affordable Care Act, didn’t he? If they are complaining about this now, don’t they have only themselves to blame?
No. I’m going to argue that, while Trump did repeatedly vow repeal, these voters were absolutely right to conclude that he would not leave them without the sort of federal protections they enjoy under Obamacare. That’s because Trump did, in fact, clearly signal to them that this would not happen.
I lived in coal country....and I live there now, no black snow ever though....Awesome pics!!! Thanks!!!! Progress is awesome....Just the mining of coal is polluting the environment - especially air and water. Mountaintop mining is an atrocity.
You are wrong. I live in Coal Country and the mining isn't the problem. It's the burning of it that is without the proper scrubbers. Find a cheaper and better way than the existing scrubbers and coal will make one hell of a comeback. I like to be able to go outside 365 days a year instead of some of the days, myself.
Look, sonny, I know about scrubbers - but mountaintop removal mining is an atrocity. It's a major polluter of air and water. I also live in coal country.
Try living there. Oh wait. You don't.
Just the mining of coal is polluting the environment - especially air and water. Mountaintop mining is an atrocity.
Yes we know. You want them to lose their jobs and live off the government. It's not shocking they didn't support that
