Trump should be banned from politics

[Nostra]

rump should be indicted for at least six crimes and banned from politics: legal experts​

Donald Trump should be facing prosecution for a half dozen crimes, according to a pair of legal experts, but instead he's preparing for another presidential run that he just might win.

The twice-impeached president has raised $122 million, more than twice the amount of the Republican National Committee, ahead of the 2024 presidential campaign that he shouldn't even be eligible to take part in, argued former White House ethics attorney Richard Painter in a new column for MSNBC.
"The 14th Amendment, Section 3, disqualifies from public office anyone who took an oath of loyalty to the United States and shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof," Painter argued in a forthcoming law review article with Claire Finkelstein, a law professor at the University of Pennsylvania.
Painter, who served under former president George W. Bush, suspects Trump is assembling a coalition that includes Russian president Vladimir Putin and other foreign backers, and he said the ex-president's corruption runs deep.
READ: Slur-spewing firefighters caught on hot mic mocking 8-year-old Black girl killed by police

“[C]rimes for which Trump could be indicted include but are not limited to," Painter and Finkelstein wrote, "(1) obstructing justice as identified in the Mueller investigation, (2) bribing and/or extorting Ukraine with military aid to investigate his political opponent Joe Biden and conduct another investigation undermining the Mueller investigation, (3) coercing cabinet members and other federal employees to engage in partisan political activity in violation of the criminal political coercion provisions of the Hatch Act, (4) soliciting election fraud in a phone call to the Georgia Secretary of State in November 2020, (5) criminal sedition in authorizing preparation of the unsigned draft Executive Order dated December 16, 2020 pursuant to which President Trump would have ordered the Secretary of Defense to seize voting machines in certain states to look for evidence of election fraud, and (6) inciting insurrection at the Capitol on January 6, 2021. These alleged politically-related crimes are over and above the financial crimes being investigated by the Manhattan DA, who has already indicted the Trump Organization and its chief financial officer."
Trump has always managed to stay one step ahead of the law, and Painter said the next two election cycles would give him a chance to sidestep the multitude of criminal investigations of his business and political activities -- with devastating consequences for American democracy.
"A republic doesn’t just become a dictatorship overnight," Painter said. "Voters choose for it to be that way. Voters get what they vote for."
"Americans will go to the polls this November and decide whether to return Trump loyalists in the GOP to Congress," he concluded. "Then we will go to the polls again in 2024. We know that Trump’s insurrectionists will have a lot of money to spend in both election cycles. If we do not make wise decisions in those elections in spite of this knowledge, 2025 could bring an entirely new chapter in American history, and not one that our founders, or most of us, would hope for."

Seek help soon.

 

[Faun]

rump should be indicted for at least six crimes and banned from politics: legal experts​

Donald Trump should be facing prosecution for a half dozen crimes, according to a pair of legal experts, but instead he's preparing for another presidential run that he just might win.

The twice-impeached president has raised $122 million, more than twice the amount of the Republican National Committee, ahead of the 2024 presidential campaign that he shouldn't even be eligible to take part in, argued former White House ethics attorney Richard Painter in a new column for MSNBC.
"The 14th Amendment, Section 3, disqualifies from public office anyone who took an oath of loyalty to the United States and shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof," Painter argued in a forthcoming law review article with Claire Finkelstein, a law professor at the University of Pennsylvania.
Painter, who served under former president George W. Bush, suspects Trump is assembling a coalition that includes Russian president Vladimir Putin and other foreign backers, and he said the ex-president's corruption runs deep.
READ: Slur-spewing firefighters caught on hot mic mocking 8-year-old Black girl killed by police

“[C]rimes for which Trump could be indicted include but are not limited to," Painter and Finkelstein wrote, "(1) obstructing justice as identified in the Mueller investigation, (2) bribing and/or extorting Ukraine with military aid to investigate his political opponent Joe Biden and conduct another investigation undermining the Mueller investigation, (3) coercing cabinet members and other federal employees to engage in partisan political activity in violation of the criminal political coercion provisions of the Hatch Act, (4) soliciting election fraud in a phone call to the Georgia Secretary of State in November 2020, (5) criminal sedition in authorizing preparation of the unsigned draft Executive Order dated December 16, 2020 pursuant to which President Trump would have ordered the Secretary of Defense to seize voting machines in certain states to look for evidence of election fraud, and (6) inciting insurrection at the Capitol on January 6, 2021. These alleged politically-related crimes are over and above the financial crimes being investigated by the Manhattan DA, who has already indicted the Trump Organization and its chief financial officer."
Trump has always managed to stay one step ahead of the law, and Painter said the next two election cycles would give him a chance to sidestep the multitude of criminal investigations of his business and political activities -- with devastating consequences for American democracy.
"A republic doesn’t just become a dictatorship overnight," Painter said. "Voters choose for it to be that way. Voters get what they vote for."
"Americans will go to the polls this November and decide whether to return Trump loyalists in the GOP to Congress," he concluded. "Then we will go to the polls again in 2024. We know that Trump’s insurrectionists will have a lot of money to spend in both election cycles. If we do not make wise decisions in those elections in spite of this knowledge, 2025 could bring an entirely new chapter in American history, and not one that our founders, or most of us, would hope for."

If Democrats control Congress on January 6th, 2025, they can prevent Trump from getting any electoral votes based on the 14th Amendment.

 

[Rogue AI]

Moron, impeachments tdo not apply to double jeopardy as no one is in legal jeopardy by being impeached.

Impeachment is a trial, shit for brains. Run along moron, your brand of stupidity is not needed here.

 

[Faun]

Impeachment is a trial, shit for brains. Run along moron, your brand of stupidity is not needed here.

Articles of Impeachment are not legal charges, doofus. Impeachment is a parliamentary procedure with a maximum "penalty" of being permanently removed from office. Whereas double jeopardy refers to criminal charges...

Amendment V

No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.​

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Furthermore, the Constitution clearly states an individual convicted of impeachment can still face criminal prosecution for the same crimes leading to their impeachment...

Article I, Section 3

Judgment in Cases of Impeachment shall not extend further than to removal from Office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any Office of honor, Trust or Profit under the United States: but the Party convicted shall nevertheless be liable and subject to Indictment, Trial, Judgment and Punishment, according to Law.​

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Read & learn.

 

[Rogue AI]

Articles of Impeachment are not legal charges, doofus. Impeachment is a parliamentary procedure with a maximum "penalty" of being permanently removed from office. Whereas double jeopardy refers to criminal charges...

Amendment V​

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No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.​

Furthermore, the Constitution clearly states an individual convicted of impeachment can still face criminal prosecution for the same crimes leading to their impeachment...

Article I, Section 3​

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Judgment in Cases of Impeachment shall not extend further than to removal from Office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any Office of honor, Trust or Profit under the United States: but the Party convicted shall nevertheless be liable and subject to Indictment, Trial, Judgment and Punishment, according to Law.​

Read & learn.

Good luck with that. Open that can of worms, go for it. Just don't whine when the pendulum swings back. You idiots never realize that this sort of nonsense starts a cycle. How many Democrats are you willing to sacrifice to assuage your TDS?

 

[whitehall]

If you can't beat him, ban him. God help us if mainstream America ever accepts the socialist democrat dogma.

 

[Wild Bill Kelsoe]

Are you Republicans ever going to get serious about Americas fate?? Throw this POS in jail and come up with another

You can't ban someone from politics. There's no law that allows it. Are you people going to ever stop shitting on the Constitution?

 

[Wild Bill Kelsoe]

He's a barometer of a society in decay, a warning sign, an ugly cautionary tale.

That's what he's always been. In a way then, I guess we need him, so that we can decide what we really are.

A sign of society in decay is when the government decides it can just make up the rules as it goes along and there are people like you that support it

 

[Faun]

Good luck with that. Open that can of worms, go for it. Just don't whine when the pendulum swings back. You idiots never realize that this sort of nonsense starts a cycle. How many Democrats are you willing to sacrifice to assuage your TDS?

Retard, it's not a can of worms. Per the U.S. Constitution, Double Jeopardy doesn't apply to impeachment.

Is none of this getting through to you??

 

[Wild Bill Kelsoe]

If he's convicted for even the tiniest felony then he is automatically banned from ever running for public office in the United States again.

That's not true...lol. You people are so fucking ignorant.

 

[Wild Bill Kelsoe]

Retard, it's not a can of worms. Per the U.S. Constitution, Double Jeopardy doesn't apply to impeachment.

Is none of this getting through to you??

He didn't say anything about double jeopardy...lol

 

[Wild Bill Kelsoe]

Well, it's not technically the law, since it's never been passed by congress.

Right. So you lied your silly ass off...lol

 

[Unkotare]

rump should be indicted for at least six crimes and banned from politics: legal experts​

Donald Trump should be facing prosecution for a half dozen crimes, according to a pair of legal experts, but instead he's preparing for another presidential run that he just might win.

The twice-impeached president has raised $122 million, more than twice the amount of the Republican National Committee, ahead of the 2024 presidential campaign that he shouldn't even be eligible to take part in, argued former White House ethics attorney Richard Painter in a new column for MSNBC.
"The 14th Amendment, Section 3, disqualifies from public office anyone who took an oath of loyalty to the United States and shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof," Painter argued in a forthcoming law review article with Claire Finkelstein, a law professor at the University of Pennsylvania.
Painter, who served under former president George W. Bush, suspects Trump is assembling a coalition that includes Russian president Vladimir Putin and other foreign backers, and he said the ex-president's corruption runs deep.
READ: Slur-spewing firefighters caught on hot mic mocking 8-year-old Black girl killed by police

“[C]rimes for which Trump could be indicted include but are not limited to," Painter and Finkelstein wrote, "(1) obstructing justice as identified in the Mueller investigation, (2) bribing and/or extorting Ukraine with military aid to investigate his political opponent Joe Biden and conduct another investigation undermining the Mueller investigation, (3) coercing cabinet members and other federal employees to engage in partisan political activity in violation of the criminal political coercion provisions of the Hatch Act, (4) soliciting election fraud in a phone call to the Georgia Secretary of State in November 2020, (5) criminal sedition in authorizing preparation of the unsigned draft Executive Order dated December 16, 2020 pursuant to which President Trump would have ordered the Secretary of Defense to seize voting machines in certain states to look for evidence of election fraud, and (6) inciting insurrection at the Capitol on January 6, 2021. These alleged politically-related crimes are over and above the financial crimes being investigated by the Manhattan DA, who has already indicted the Trump Organization and its chief financial officer."
Trump has always managed to stay one step ahead of the law, and Painter said the next two election cycles would give him a chance to sidestep the multitude of criminal investigations of his business and political activities -- with devastating consequences for American democracy.
"A republic doesn’t just become a dictatorship overnight," Painter said. "Voters choose for it to be that way. Voters get what they vote for."
"Americans will go to the polls this November and decide whether to return Trump loyalists in the GOP to Congress," he concluded. "Then we will go to the polls again in 2024. We know that Trump’s insurrectionists will have a lot of money to spend in both election cycles. If we do not make wise decisions in those elections in spite of this knowledge, 2025 could bring an entirely new chapter in American history, and not one that our founders, or most of us, would hope for."

Typical totalitarian impulses from the left. "Political opponents must be disappeared!"

 

[Wild Bill Kelsoe]

They will hound Trump until he is dead and no longer a threat. But even that won't stop them. They will focus on his kids. And his grandkids. Forever.

Trump upset the D.C. apple cart. They have to send a message to anyone else that tries to do the same thing.

 

[Faun]

He didn't say anything about double jeopardy...lol

LOL

You moron, do you not understand English...?

Sounds like you are advocating double jeopardy. Liberals had two chances to convict Trump and he was exonerated both times.

[emphasis mine to highlight your illiteracy]

 

[flewism]

This is just dumb , look up how many convicted felons are currently serving in congress. So you are going to make a special purpose law for trump?

 

[Theowl32]

Ban people who don't agree with us. Yes, nazis.

 

[Theowl32]

Trump upset the D.C. apple cart. They have to send a message to anyone else that tries to do the same thing.

THIS

 

[Rogue AI]

Retard, it's not a can of worms. Per the U.S. Constitution, Double Jeopardy doesn't apply to impeachment.

Is none of this getting through to you??

Revenge politics is a can of worms, you fucking moron. Trump terrifies you idiots to the point that you folks will start something you can't stop. Go for it.

 

[Wild Bill Kelsoe]

If Democrats control Congress on January 6th, 2025, they can prevent Trump from getting any electoral votes based on the 14th Amendment.

He would have to be convicted in court. Congress can't just vote to make someone guilty of a crime.