Trump speaks to President of Taiwan -- liberal media shits a brick

[jasonnfree]

So we have obama stooping and bowing to the leader of communist china, no problem. A private citizen, Trump, gets a congratulatory call from the democratically elected president of Taiwan, and all hell breaks out on the left. Figures.

So whiny ^^^^

You need to grow up

What's your problem, no sensible answer so you insult, eh?

It's usually what happens when you discuss opposing views with a liberal, they get into hissy fits and mental breakdowns.

You are projecting your own angst and anguish again at being you.

Fhut the wuck? Another poster getting all bitchy and irate since his/her heroine clinton didn't win.

 

[Roudy]

So we have obama stooping and bowing to the leader of communist china, no problem. A private citizen, Trump, gets a congratulatory call from the democratically elected president of Taiwan, and all hell breaks out on the left. Figures.

So whiny ^^^^

You need to grow up

What's your problem, no sensible answer so you insult, eh?

It's usually what happens when you discuss opposing views with a liberal, they get into hissy fits and mental breakdowns.

You are projecting your own angst and anguish again at being you.

Yeah, I have a lot of anguish...over celebrating Trump kicking the asses of Hillary, the crooked media, and the corrupt Democratic Party.

 

[Roudy]

So we have obama stooping and bowing to the leader of communist china, no problem. A private citizen, Trump, gets a congratulatory call from the democratically elected president of Taiwan, and all hell breaks out on the left. Figures.

So whiny ^^^^

You need to grow up

What's your problem, no sensible answer so you insult, eh?

It's usually what happens when you discuss opposing views with a liberal, they get into hissy fits and mental breakdowns.

You are projecting your own angst and anguish again at being you.

Fhut the wuck? Another poster getting all bitchy and irate since his/her heroine clinton didn't win.

I'm tellin' you, these leftist lunatics were so emotionally invested in a Hillary win, they might never get over the fact that Trump actually win. I think they're going to be running around the next 16 years at least, not know what hit them, like chickens with their heads cut off.

 

[Flopper]

Donald Trump speaks with Taiwan's President - CNNPolitics.com

It's high time that America's hypocritical policy of "not recognizing" Taiwan come to an end.

Taiwan is a friend and a trading partner. There is no reason Trump shouldn't talk to this independent country's President.

If Communist China doesn't like it, really they can take a long walk off a short pier.

Donald Trump speaking with the Taiwan's president does not imply in any way that the US is formally recognizing Taiwan. Although Trump's action is provocative it is not a problem in itself. However, once he becomes president a formal recognition of Taiwan would mean a break in diplomatic relations with mainline China.

The Peoples Republic of China has a long term policy of refusing to maintain diplomatic relations with any nation that recognizes the Republic of China but does not object to nations conducting economic, cultural, and other such exchanges with Taiwan that do not imply diplomatic relation.

Trump is correct when he says the US sells billions of dollars of Military equipment to Taiwan but his actions clearly show his lack of understanding of both US policy toward China and of how diplomacy works.

Bottom line, Trump needs to get himself a Secretary of State who understands foreign policy and diplomatic relations or he's going get this country in a lot of trouble real fast.

I think it shows an excellent grasp of how diplomacy was NOT WORKING.

We gave China everything they wanted and then they gave US shit in return.

China is being served notice that that game is over.

Exactly. And he's showing he knows exactly how to deal with the Chinese, and negotiate from a position of strength. Ya gotta love this guy, he's off to a roaring start.

Donald Trump takes fresh swipe at China - CNNPolitics.com

Trump, in two tweets late Sunday, accused China of keeping its currency artificially low and of military posturing in the South China Sea -- home to a tense territorial dispute.
"Did China ask us if it was OK to devalue their currency (making it hard for our companies to compete), heavily tax our products going into their country (the US doesn't tax them) or to build a massive military complex in the middle of the South China Sea? I don't think so!," Trump said on Twitter.
Did China ask us if it was OK to devalue their currency (making it hard for our companies to compete), heavily tax our products going into..

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) December 4, 2016
their country (the U.S. doesn't tax them) or to build a massive military complex in the middle of the South China Sea? I don't think so!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) December 4, 2016

If Trump had any understanding of the Chinese, he would know that you can not bully, intimidate, or insult them and expect to negotiate with them. It just doesn't work that way. Hardliners in the Chinese government don't give a damn about US trade. In fact, if it disappeared tomorrow, many would be overjoyed. Xi Jinping has to walk a very fine line when dealing with the US. Trump's saber rattling just makes negotiations that much harder.

China exports 2.2 trillion dollars in goods. Only 18% goes to the US. Although any restriction of trade would hurt both countries, China with it's iron-fisted control of the country would be far better able to deal with it than the US.

You're almost right, but China would not be able to deal with it better. China's domestic market is still in its infancy, and being so dependent on exports puts them in the more precarious position in any theoretical trade war.

Maybe so.

 

[JoeB131]

1. Bond investors seem to disagree. Bonds are DOWN, but only because people are pulling money to get into stocks which they expect to rise.

Again, Cleetus, wait until he actually gets in, see what the stock market is going to look like.

2. Your blind acceptance of the non-american side of the issue is noted. Your citing of fairly old history is noted. If China is such a powder keg due to historical grievances, then it was really fucking stupid of US to send so much money and industry to them over the last 30 years.

You are right, it was pretty dumb of Trump to send his clothing line there... oh, wait.

Yeah, understanding the other side, we don't cotton to that down here in Jesusland, dun, der Cleetus. Dem der slanty eyed Chinamen should be happy we exploited their resources.

If China was arming the FALN, we wouldn't be nearly as understanding about it.

3. Your lack of understanding of military issues is noted.

You mean other than actually being in the military, unlike yourself, Cleetus?

 

[skookerasbil]

1. Bond investors seem to disagree. Bonds are DOWN, but only because people are pulling money to get into stocks which they expect to rise.

Again, Cleetus, wait until he actually gets in, see what the stock market is going to look like.

2. Your blind acceptance of the non-american side of the issue is noted. Your citing of fairly old history is noted. If China is such a powder keg due to historical grievances, then it was really fucking stupid of US to send so much money and industry to them over the last 30 years.

You are right, it was pretty dumb of Trump to send his clothing line there... oh, wait.

Yeah, understanding the other side, we don't cotton to that down here in Jesusland, dun, der Cleetus. Dem der slanty eyed Chinamen should be happy we exploited their resources.

If China was arming the FALN, we wouldn't be nearly as understanding about it.

3. Your lack of understanding of military issues is noted.

You mean other than actually being in the military, unlike yourself, Cleetus?

Whatever you say s0n!!!

Dang........that bumpy cucumber you're sporting appears to be particularly knobby s0n!!! Enjoy it s0n!!!

 

[JoeB131]

Yep, you idiots figured it out. We're all racists white bastards.

Guess what, we won the country.

Embrace the fascism and go piss yourselves. If you speak softly we might not open the UN internment camps you'd set aside for us white people who didn't convert to Islam.

after Trump wrecks the economy, most of the confused white people who voted for him are going to turn on him.

 

[JoeB131]

What needs to happen is Democrats need to take all these social engineering agendas like gay marriage, transsexual restrooms, etc. off the table and concentrate on what people care for. They're so busy race baiting, indoctrinating our youth and promoting their liberal agenda they forgot about the rest of America.

Why, Trump didn't talk about those things. The only candidate who did talk about them this election, the asshole in North Carolina, lost.

Once again, more people voted for Hillary. You guys won on a technicality, not because you won people over to your cause.

Trump got a smaller percentage of the vote than Romney did.

 

[JoeB131]

1. THe battle between Free Traders and Trump.

2. The rage of the rank and file with the lack of action on deportation that led them to dismiss all attempts by the GOP establishment to play games with that issue again.

3. Trump, who built his campaign and if he is smart realizes, his presidency on the wall and deportations.

Trump isn't building a wall, guy. And there will be very few deportations.

 

[Correll]

Donald Trump speaks with Taiwan's President - CNNPolitics.com

It's high time that America's hypocritical policy of "not recognizing" Taiwan come to an end.

Taiwan is a friend and a trading partner. There is no reason Trump shouldn't talk to this independent country's President.

If Communist China doesn't like it, really they can take a long walk off a short pier.

Donald Trump speaking with the Taiwan's president does not imply in any way that the US is formally recognizing Taiwan. Although Trump's action is provocative it is not a problem in itself. However, once he becomes president a formal recognition of Taiwan would mean a break in diplomatic relations with mainline China.

The Peoples Republic of China has a long term policy of refusing to maintain diplomatic relations with any nation that recognizes the Republic of China but does not object to nations conducting economic, cultural, and other such exchanges with Taiwan that do not imply diplomatic relation.

Trump is correct when he says the US sells billions of dollars of Military equipment to Taiwan but his actions clearly show his lack of understanding of both US policy toward China and of how diplomacy works.

Bottom line, Trump needs to get himself a Secretary of State who understands foreign policy and diplomatic relations or he's going get this country in a lot of trouble real fast.

I think it shows an excellent grasp of how diplomacy was NOT WORKING.

We gave China everything they wanted and then they gave US shit in return.

China is being served notice that that game is over.

Exactly. And he's showing he knows exactly how to deal with the Chinese, and negotiate from a position of strength. Ya gotta love this guy, he's off to a roaring start.

Donald Trump takes fresh swipe at China - CNNPolitics.com

Trump, in two tweets late Sunday, accused China of keeping its currency artificially low and of military posturing in the South China Sea -- home to a tense territorial dispute.
"Did China ask us if it was OK to devalue their currency (making it hard for our companies to compete), heavily tax our products going into their country (the US doesn't tax them) or to build a massive military complex in the middle of the South China Sea? I don't think so!," Trump said on Twitter.
Did China ask us if it was OK to devalue their currency (making it hard for our companies to compete), heavily tax our products going into..

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) December 4, 2016
their country (the U.S. doesn't tax them) or to build a massive military complex in the middle of the South China Sea? I don't think so!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) December 4, 2016

Why in the hell would Trump want to start shit with China will us having 3 gotdamned Muslim wars going on at present? The guy is a fuckin crazy man. Its not the fuckin Chinese taking jobs, its FUCKIN WALL STREET GIVING THEM THE FUCKIN JOBS...THAT'S WHERE THE BATTLE STARTS AND END YOU FUCKIN DUMB ASS!!

Trump is trying to show his supporters how tough he is but what he doesn't seem to realize is he's creating his foreign policy with his stupid tweets and remarks to the media which is going to hurt him when he tries to negotiate with countries he's insulting. If he continues as he has, he will never get China to agree to trade negotiations.

As the US has come closer to China economically, Chinese relations with North Korea has cooled as have the massive arm shipments to Iran and Syria, as well as military activity in the South China Sea. Cooling relations with the US could easily result in China turning up the heat in these areas.

THe US needs to move away from China economically.


They are predatory traders who are fucking US, and using the money to increase their military capability.

 

[Correll]

1. THe battle between Free Traders and Trump.

2. The rage of the rank and file with the lack of action on deportation that led them to dismiss all attempts by the GOP establishment to play games with that issue again.

3. Trump, who built his campaign and if he is smart realizes, his presidency on the wall and deportations.

Trump isn't building a wall, guy. And there will be very few deportations.

Your intelligence and credibility have been well established by your long history of dishonest and racist posts.


ie ZERO ON BOTH.

 

[Correll]

1. Bond investors seem to disagree. Bonds are DOWN, but only because people are pulling money to get into stocks which they expect to rise.

Again, Cleetus, wait until he actually gets in, see what the stock market is going to look like.

2. Your blind acceptance of the non-american side of the issue is noted. Your citing of fairly old history is noted. If China is such a powder keg due to historical grievances, then it was really fucking stupid of US to send so much money and industry to them over the last 30 years.

You are right, it was pretty dumb of Trump to send his clothing line there... oh, wait.

Yeah, understanding the other side, we don't cotton to that down here in Jesusland, dun, der Cleetus. Dem der slanty eyed Chinamen should be happy we exploited their resources.

If China was arming the FALN, we wouldn't be nearly as understanding about it.

3. Your lack of understanding of military issues is noted.

You mean other than actually being in the military, unlike yourself, Cleetus?

1. Your racism is noted. YOu are a racist ass.

2. You offered your opinion of what Trump would mean to the Bond Market. I countered with what hte Bond Market thought.

3.Your racism in noted. YOu are a racist asshole.

4. You are not "understanding" the other side. YOu are, as always, blindly accepting it, and rejecting that of your own side.

5. We are not "exploiting" Chinese resources. They are the ones vastly benefiting from our trade at our expense.

6. I have already debunked your claim that any nation would react the same. You are engaged in the Logical Fallacy of Proof by Assertion. Your point is invalid.

7. Your racism is noted. You are a racist asshole.

8. If your military background led you to believe that people could launch a military invasion across water without dealing with the world's most powerful Navy, then yes.

 

[JoeB131]

8. If your military background led you to believe that people could launch a military invasion across water without dealing with the world's most powerful Navy, then yes.

Okay, except that it's only a couple hundred miles to cross that water, and the Chinese have missiles that can take out our navy if it comes into range.

2. You offered your opinion of what Trump would mean to the Bond Market. I countered with what hte Bond Market thought.

That they are selling off bonds now? Um. yeah.

4. You are not "understanding" the other side. YOu are, as always, blindly accepting it, and rejecting that of your own side.

Well, the history isn't really in dispute. You aren't going to find any history book that doesn't openly admit that the west's exploitation of China between the Opium Wars and the Chinese Civil War wasn't a whole pile of awful behavior by white people. (Then again, when don't white people behave badly. It's kind of our thing.)

Here's the thing. I don't think Taiwan is worth ONE AMERICAN LIFE. Not even dumb-ass people from Jesus Land who signed up because the coal mine closed. (Those people were always a joy to deal with when I was in the service.)

6. I have already debunked your claim that any nation would react the same. You are engaged in the Logical Fallacy of Proof by Assertion. Your point is invalid.

Uh, no, you really haven't. You gave the example of Scotland, which is technically already it's own country and is in a voluntary union with the rest of the UK, and has voted to remain so. A better example would be Northern Ireland, which the British have fought for years to keep them uppity Irishmen in their place.

 

[skookerasbil]

Yep, you idiots figured it out. We're all racists white bastards.

Guess what, we won the country.

Embrace the fascism and go piss yourselves. If you speak softly we might not open the UN internment camps you'd set aside for us white people who didn't convert to Islam.

after Trump wrecks the economy, most of the confused white people who voted for him are going to turn on him.

Loving all the confusion s0n......whites are finally going to get some jobs after the racist president Soetero fucked them over for 8 years!!!

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[Correll]

8. If your military background led you to believe that people could launch a military invasion across water without dealing with the world's most powerful Navy, then yes.

Okay, except that it's only a couple hundred miles to cross that water, and the Chinese have missiles that can take out our navy if it comes into range.

2. You offered your opinion of what Trump would mean to the Bond Market. I countered with what hte Bond Market thought.

That they are selling off bonds now? Um. yeah.

4. You are not "understanding" the other side. YOu are, as always, blindly accepting it, and rejecting that of your own side.

Well, the history isn't really in dispute. You aren't going to find any history book that doesn't openly admit that the west's exploitation of China between the Opium Wars and the Chinese Civil War wasn't a whole pile of awful behavior by white people. (Then again, when don't white people behave badly. It's kind of our thing.)

Here's the thing. I don't think Taiwan is worth ONE AMERICAN LIFE. Not even dumb-ass people from Jesus Land who signed up because the coal mine closed. (Those people were always a joy to deal with when I was in the service.)

6. I have already debunked your claim that any nation would react the same. You are engaged in the Logical Fallacy of Proof by Assertion. Your point is invalid.

Uh, no, you really haven't. You gave the example of Scotland, which is technically already it's own country and is in a voluntary union with the rest of the UK, and has voted to remain so. A better example would be Northern Ireland, which the British have fought for years to keep them uppity Irishmen in their place.

1. Their missiles are and would be a real and serious threat. They would not "take out our navy", nor prevent our navy from being able to prevent a successful invasion of Taiwan. "Only a couple hundred miles" LOL!

2. So, did you not read the reasons listed, or are you so stupid that you didn't understand them?

3. Your racism in noted. YOu are a racist asshole.

4. Yes, I am well aware of their side of the issue. You are the one that is only giving any weight to just one side. And as always with a lefty, it is the Anti-American side.

5. On the other hand, Taiwan has been defacto independent for over 60 years. It would take a bunch of war mongering assholes to go to war over a symbolic admission of that reality.

 

[RealDave]

Donald Trump speaks with Taiwan's President - CNNPolitics.com

It's high time that America's hypocritical policy of "not recognizing" Taiwan come to an end.

Taiwan is a friend and a trading partner. There is no reason Trump shouldn't talk to this independent country's President.

If Communist China doesn't like it, really they can take a long walk off a short pier.

Donald Trump speaking with the Taiwan's president does not imply in any way that the US is formally recognizing Taiwan. Although Trump's action is provocative it is not a problem in itself. However, once he becomes president a formal recognition of Taiwan would mean a break in diplomatic relations with mainline China.

The Peoples Republic of China has a long term policy of refusing to maintain diplomatic relations with any nation that recognizes the Republic of China but does not object to nations conducting economic, cultural, and other such exchanges with Taiwan that do not imply diplomatic relation.

Trump is correct when he says the US sells billions of dollars of Military equipment to Taiwan but his actions clearly show his lack of understanding of both US policy toward China and of how diplomacy works.

Bottom line, Trump needs to get himself a Secretary of State who understands foreign policy and diplomatic relations or he's going get this country in a lot of trouble real fast.

I think it shows an excellent grasp of how diplomacy was NOT WORKING.

We gave China everything they wanted and then they gave US shit in return.

China is being served notice that that game is over.

Exactly. And he's showing he knows exactly how to deal with the Chinese, and negotiate from a position of strength. Ya gotta love this guy, he's off to a roaring start.

Donald Trump takes fresh swipe at China - CNNPolitics.com

Trump, in two tweets late Sunday, accused China of keeping its currency artificially low and of military posturing in the South China Sea -- home to a tense territorial dispute.
"Did China ask us if it was OK to devalue their currency (making it hard for our companies to compete), heavily tax our products going into their country (the US doesn't tax them) or to build a massive military complex in the middle of the South China Sea? I don't think so!," Trump said on Twitter.
Did China ask us if it was OK to devalue their currency (making it hard for our companies to compete), heavily tax our products going into..

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) December 4, 2016
their country (the U.S. doesn't tax them) or to build a massive military complex in the middle of the South China Sea? I don't think so!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) December 4, 2016

Why in the hell would Trump want to start shit with China will us having 3 gotdamned Muslim wars going on at present? The guy is a fuckin crazy man. Its not the fuckin Chinese taking jobs, its FUCKIN WALL STREET GIVING THEM THE FUCKIN JOBS...THAT'S WHERE THE BATTLE STARTS AND END YOU FUCKIN DUMB ASS!!

We saw what Obama's inexperience, incompetence, and ineptitude got us. Russian invasion of Crimea, over 300,000 dead in Syria, ISIS, and the Islamization of the the Middle East.

Under Bush, hundreds of thousands dead in Iraq. The Middle East was always Islam. Obama did not start the civil war in Syria.

 

[RealDave]

Why in the hell would Trump want to start shit with China will us having 3 gotdamned Muslim wars going on at present? The guy is a fuckin crazy man. Its not the fuckin Chinese taking jobs, its FUCKIN WALL STREET GIVING THEM THE FUCKIN JOBS...THAT'S WHERE THE BATTLE STARTS AND END YOU FUCKIN DUMB ASS!!

But you see, the Chinese aren't white.

When you are running a White Identity movement, the last thing you want your voters to realize is this.

This race baiting strategy isn't working any longer.

Evidently, attracting racists & bigots worked well for Trump.

Yeah right, 62 million people that voted for Trump including all those battle ground states that had vooted for Obama and the Democrst the last 40 years, they're all racists.

Liberalism is a mental disorder.

That is not what was said. Trump brought out the racist & bigot vote which help bolster the typical Republican vote. You're not very bright, are you?

 

[Correll]

Why in the hell would Trump want to start shit with China will us having 3 gotdamned Muslim wars going on at present? The guy is a fuckin crazy man. Its not the fuckin Chinese taking jobs, its FUCKIN WALL STREET GIVING THEM THE FUCKIN JOBS...THAT'S WHERE THE BATTLE STARTS AND END YOU FUCKIN DUMB ASS!!

But you see, the Chinese aren't white.

When you are running a White Identity movement, the last thing you want your voters to realize is this.

This race baiting strategy isn't working any longer.

Evidently, attracting racists & bigots worked well for Trump.

Yeah right, 62 million people that voted for Trump including all those battle ground states that had vooted for Obama and the Democrst the last 40 years, they're all racists.

Liberalism is a mental disorder.

That is not what was said. Trump brought out the racist & bigot vote which help bolster the typical Republican vote. You're not very bright, are you?

Your race baiting failed in th election. What makes you think it will work now?

 

[EverCurious]

I think Trump is going to do everything he can to bring jobs back to America and fix our economy. I have enough personal knowledge of Trump over my lifetime that I didn't fall for the lies the media spread trying to get Clinton elected. Even if he fails, it is a monumental task with the mess the quasi-socialists left, I'll still believe he tried his best, because that's what Trump does. ~shrug~

 

[Roudy]

Nobody cares about this except the k00k media........who.....lol.......are still doing it wrong now a month after getting their clocks cleaned. Manufactured outraged was given the bumpy cucumber by the American people not even a month ago.

Ive been imploring my compadres on the right to make it a point to tune in CNN, MSNBC et. al. every night because the entertainment value is priceless. Its cant miss TV........Ms. Long Neck on MSNBC tops 'em all for being totally out of touch with regular Americans.

And just look at the philosopher intellectuals posting on this thread like they are enlightening us all...................and nobody is listening them because right now, they don't matter!

It sure is funny watching the crooked media braying like donkeys while Trump makes them look like fools.

^^^^ he said 'fools' ~ how funny

Who won, against all odds, despite all the predictions, and non stop bashing in the biased corrupt media, fool?

Hey, he rigged the election, as we all know.

Who's we, you and the voices in your head?