Flopper
Diamond Member
Correlation is not the same as cause and effect.The funny thing about the tariffs-never-works theory is that if this was true, they sure didn't work for a very long time! And during that awful time, America enjoyed high prosperity and wages! Where all of that seems to have slipped apart appears to been right around the time we STOPPED high tariffs.I agree the US can produce whatever China produces and by putting tariffs on Chinese goods, American goods would look more attractive to American consumers. Problem solved, right. Well not quite. Since China and other countries also produce those goods at lower prices we would have to put tariffs on them also. China and the other countries would respond with tariffs on American exports. The end result is the consumer pays a lot more for goods. Jobs are gained in the protected industry and lost in the industries being taxed. The bottom line is tariffs don't do what you think they will do. They end up costing jobs and raising prices. Efficient low cost producers are penalized and inefficient producers are rewarded.Flop, you keep MISSING THE POINT. The problem IN THE FIRST PLACE is that we need China so much for anything. Corrupt politicians and greedy capitalists put us in that stupid position and now we are paying for that dependence. Trump is getting us out of it. There are no good times to rip a bandage off your arm, but the longer you leave it on, the more it is going to hurt.My point is the WHO is a conduit between the US and China that we will need. Trump's tariffs wars with China and now his attempt to blame China for the pandemic is creating a break between the US and China at the worst possible time. Not only do with need research from China on the virus but we are going to need their Medical Equipment and Supplies manufacturing as America struggles with the virus. They can produce in huge qualities exactly what we need. If one of the two vaccines they have in human testing turns out to be successful, we're going need that too. This is no time for the blame game and trying to force China to change it's wicked ways.It has nothing to do with funding and everything to do with the fact that China is leading the world in Coronavirus research. Coronviruses which infected both humans and animals began in China in 2002. China has remained the heart of the research now for almost 20 years. Most of what we know about the virus comes from China. China has just approved two Coronavirus vaccines for human testing as relations between the US and China continue to deteriorate. The WHO is an important link between medical research in China and the US, a link that should not be broken regardless of Trump's problems with China.The enemies you make by defunding? Try everyone. You are not hurting the Chinese at all by defunding you are giving the Chinese the opportunity to jump into a power vacuum.
And for the 3rd time. What do you access the WHO could have done differently? I've posed it to other people. You guys are asserting the WHO did something wrong so you should have no problem stating what they should have done.
China cannot jump into power vacuum, because they're already there. Question is, why China have so much power over WHO when they're providing less funding to WHO than US, Japan, or EU?
WHO is not just about corona virus, but about all world health. Just because China is "leading" researcher in that field, doesn't give them control over WHO, and WHO rhetoric.
There is nothing that China produce that we cannot produce in US. It could take some time, 6 months to a year, max, but we can do it.
It doesn't necessarily have to be cheaper, because tariffs would increase price of Chinese product anyways. We have to end dependency on China on at least strategic production: medical equipment, drugs, communications, some manufacturing. And we have to protect our intellectual property, which they have no respect for.
China already have tariffs on American products. Reason why Trump imposed tariffs on them is to level the playing field.
Will you stop repeating "result is the consumer pays a lot more for goods", since it didn't really happen (at least not in a way left is beating the drum) with all those tariffs Trump imposed. Those are only projections aimed to deter from imposing tariffs, and look it up yourself, Trump's tariffs did not cause increases in consumers prices.
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