Trump supporters; why are you so angry?

[HereWeGoAgain]

We have every reason to be pissed at the left wing media who repeatedly report fake news.

You could just ... not watch it?

So you're okay with the media spreading propaganda?
How fascist of you.

Haven't we had to put up with it with parts of the media, FOX and Breitbart, etc. for quite a while?

Had the MSM been honest alternate media wouldn't have been needed now would they?

Are you serious? Alternative media has been there and continues to be there to sucker the weak of mind....just a political bent to the old tabloids that have been around and before them the yellow journalism papers and so on and so forth. It's all about making money off that target audience...the easily led thru pretend persecution.

The MSM have been shilling for the DNC for the last two decades at the very least and now the chickens are coming home to roost.

 

[emilynghiem]

Troll thread

I'm serious. There is a very obvious anger issue with Trump supporters from the neutral observer's point of view. I actually feel a bit sorry for them. It must suck to be so mad all the time.

I see this also, Trump backers are just ANGRY, if the slightest comment that does not praise him appears.

Nah, we're used to it. Been going on over a year. Extreme butthurt

Thanks DrLove
With me voting for John Shaw we'd have to set it up
as a win-win situation where everyone gets the representation
and leadership that works for them.

What I am proposing is to revamp the Electoral College system by district, where each party operating in that district can have proportional seats on a council or panel to receive and compile input DIRECTLY from party members, including grievances against govt abuses or discrimination by policies.

The power over the grievance and correction/reform process would be shared by people TRAINED to apply conflict resolution and consensus statements, as the Green party tries to do with proportional representation and with consensus based decisions. (I've met people who were Libertarian, progressive liberal, conservative Democrat, Constitutional etc. lobbying to either adapt the Grand Jury system for local people to check govt abuses, or who wrote state legislation for a local civilian oversight commission, or passed federal legislation to create democratically elected resident councils for community self-government, which are variations of the same concept, all locally managed as the common theme and structure)

What is missing is the training and assistance with people who can facilitate solutions, or can write out where parties clash and simply cannot resolve differences in beliefs. I would like a full time job helping to write out and present such "position statements" to Congress, based on field intake at district and precinct levels with collaboration from all parties with a vested stake in protecting equal representation of all people, regardless of religious or political beliefs or bias.

I notice John Shaw is even more adept and astute at calling out the problem and stating it more precisely. I am better at fielding the input, but need to work with people like JS who can summarize it and make it mainstream for the public audiences.

If we work in teams, I think we can put this together.
then DrLove ANYONE can lead or train for any office that fits their skills and the level of representation and population they can handle. By distributing the responsibility, we won't have backlogs and won't have people of conflicting beliefs imposing their biases on others who disagree. We'd organize by party and by district so people can get what they want and believe in, and separate from other people or groups who believe and want to fund a different policy!

That's what I hope to set up through the Greens and Democrats stuck outside the loop with this Administration and Congressional lineup. I am asking the liberal progressives to organize by district, around precinct structures of the local party leadership and membership, to use indymedia and pacifica public radio and TV to mobilize local resources, and set up solutions directly as models to advertise/publicize for other cities around the nation to follow.

Instead of agonizing, organize. DIY. And actions speak louder than words. Do and build what you believe in, and the money and leadership would follow a good lead.

DrLove John Shaw seriously, I do want to connect people like you on USMB with this same vision and ability to promote it through the media. We can use the podcasts here, link to facebook and twitter, and get this going with pockets of people from various political groups, and start more people doing the same in teams in their own districts. Different parties shouldn't get in the way, but serve as a catalyst for change. We NEED likeminded people of DIFFERENT parties to collaborate to set the better example for the nation and leaders to follow.

So this is taking the bull by the horns, and turning the tables on govt. the people need to do this, because we are the only ones who can cross the lines and get this done. Then others will follow.

Would love to work with both of you, and form teams of others who want solutions and not more backlog, bullying and backbiting!

 

[Correll]

Why all the scapegoats? "The Media"! There's an institution that can be blamed. But doing so brings its own perils. Journalism is the only profession mentioned in the constitution. Yet making journalism mistrusted and suspicious erodes the necessary function of journalism.

It is the actions of journalists that have made them mistrusted, and rightfully so.

They are not being "scapegoated" for things. THey are being held accountable for their misdeeds.


Liberals. There's a group to demean. But when the majority in congress and the senate and the White House is not in the hands of Liberals, blaming Liberals for every sin under the sun is disingenuous at best, feebly incompetent at worst. [/QUOTE]


Pretending that the government is everything is disingenuous of you.

Minorities. Groups without the political power those who seek to scrap them hold. Blaming minorities for their own failings while ignoring the hurdles imposed by the political majority is cruel and utterly unAmerican.

No one is scapegoating minorities. Our national policy for generations has been, not to place hurdles in front of them, but to discriminate in their favor.

Ignoring the cost to poor and middle class whites from those policies is cruel and utterly unAmerican.

Lots and lots of scapegoats suggests very little in political imagination and leadership. And that's where we are today.

'Dismissing your opponents agenda or concerns in order to avoid real debate, suggests very little political imagination, honesty, decency , or civility.


And that is where you liberals are today.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

We have every reason to be pissed at the left wing media who repeatedly report fake news.

The only "fake news" is coming from Fox and your Cheeto Jesus.

Surely you're not going to claim you missed all of the retractions from the left wing media?

 

[toobfreak]

Probably too many reasons to list. But just a few off the top of my head:

They are hypocrites.
They tell lies that they know full well are lies.
They are party and agenda before country.
They are the true racists.
They are the largest hate group in the world.
They have almost the entire media in their side.
Half of them are profoundly stupid and the other half are compulsive liars.
They don’t know history.
They don’t know economics.
They don’t really care about black people
They don’t really care about women

And that’s just off the top of my head.

You just painted a picture that looks exactly like this

The Left really are quite the amazing lot------ they sit around all day long doodling little caricatures of Trump by the thousands mistaking them for reality never once realizing that we never had much need for caricatures of Hillary and Obama because all we really needed was any real photo of them!

 

[bodecea]

We have every reason to be pissed at the left wing media who repeatedly report fake news.

The only "fake news" is coming from Fox and your Cheeto Jesus.

Yup, that must be why liberal news stations are terminating "newscasters" or giving them extended leaves.

Well, one thing we've been learning in the last month is that there are consequences for behavior......you get fired or resign if you are a Leftie or perceived to be a Leftie.....on the other side of the political spectrum, you get elected.

 

[Correll]

Pretty much every time I see one of you post, you're calling someone nasty names, or spouting off some ridiculous conspiracy theory, or gnashing your teeth while stereotyping some group and declaring what scum they are, spittle flying from your lips while your face turns a bright neon red and your eyes bug out of your head.

Why can't you just talk calmly and rationally like a civilized person? Why must everything you say/write be tinged with rage?

This may be a couple of things.
Some people have a low tolerance for stupidity. Some are just plants.
You see, what the left specializes in is instigating a confrontation.
You spit in someone's face in order to solicit a violent reaction.
It's a classic communist tactic.

AND THEN, act as though the person you provoked, is the bad guy because of his anger.


John, we are on to you, and we aren't playing by your asshole rules anymore.


THe more you try, the more push back you will get.

You act like a fucking asshole, we will treat you like you deserve.

More of that anger.....an excellent example for what the OP is talking about.

I'm happy to admit when I am angry.


Anger is the healthy response to people who are being complete fucking assholes, like you liberals are almost always.


What part of that is confusing for you?

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

So you're okay with the media spreading propaganda?
How fascist of you.

Haven't we had to put up with it with parts of the media, FOX and Breitbart, etc. for quite a while?

Had the MSM been honest alternate media wouldn't have been needed now would they?

Well FOX and Breitbart are pretty much the same thing, but appealing to a different kind of audience. So ... not sure how that's really alternative media, in the sense that it's intrinsically different.

There was a time the MSM was trustworthy.
They've now turned into the Progda and are just a mouthpiece for the DNC.

When did that happen?

Decades ago.
But thanks to Algore for inventing the internet and exposing you lefties or Trump wouldnt have won the election.....thanks Al.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

We have every reason to be pissed at the left wing media who repeatedly report fake news.

The only "fake news" is coming from Fox and your Cheeto Jesus.

Yup, that must be why liberal news stations are terminating "newscasters" or giving them extended leaves.

Well, one thing we've been learning in the last month is that there are consequences for behavior......you get fired or resign if you are a Leftie or perceived to be a Leftie.....on the other side of the political spectrum, you get elected.

Yeah,isn't it great!!!!

 

[Correll]

Pretty much every time I see one of you post, you're calling someone nasty names, or spouting off some ridiculous conspiracy theory, or gnashing your teeth while stereotyping some group and declaring what scum they are, spittle flying from your lips while your face turns a bright neon red and your eyes bug out of your head.

Why can't you just talk calmly and rationally like a civilized person? Why must everything you say/write be tinged with rage?

This may be a couple of things.
Some people have a low tolerance for stupidity. Some are just plants.
You see, what the left specializes in is instigating a confrontation.
You spit in someone's face in order to solicit a violent reaction.
It's a classic communist tactic.

AND THEN, act as though the person you provoked, is the bad guy because of his anger.


John, we are on to you, and we aren't playing by your asshole rules anymore.


THe more you try, the more push back you will get.

You act like a fucking asshole, we will treat you like you deserve.

How so?

THe Race Card is a prime example.

Imagine if you will, that every time you engaged in any discussion, that some piece of shit, that a chorus of drooling morons called you a vile name, every single time.


WOUld you turn the other cheek and just let it ride?

Or would you call them the pieces of shit that they are, and point out that they were fucking cowards for only talking like that online?

Dear Correll
I find it most effective to address both.

Try to resolve the issue of namecalling by both sides acknowledging neither one likes to be addressed that way, and call a mutual truce.

Stick to the principles points and CONTENT to the argument. Respect the person and the material or message they are trying to address.

but separate the language and layer of bullying going on from the two people behind that barrier.

Agree to remove the barrier and try to address each other as people equally angry, insulted or in fear of being oppressed by these same barriers.

this is best achieved in an environment of mutual respect. And yes, sometimes we have to be the first to show respect for the other, before they agree to drop the namecalling and try to be more respectful in return.

To turn the other cheek does NOT mean to take abuse and enable it like a doormat Correll:
It REALLY means to address one another as EQUAL peers
(the explanation of the Bible is that slapping someone left handed means a citizen is rebuking a slave who is not a citizen, because the left hand was reserved for that. But if someone does this, you ask them to "use their right hand" or rebuke you as an equal citizen which is a righthanded slap. You correct them and tell them if we are going to go head to head it will be as equals, not inferiors.)

My normal posting style is respectful and civil.


If a lib post something in a civil manner, I reply in kind.


But liberals are conditioned to think that calling people they disagree with, vile names, is fine, when they do it.


So, this rarely lasts more than a post or two.


(yes, some few posters are such assholes, that I have stopped giving them a benefit of a doubt even for one post, but only a few)

 

[bodecea]

I’m a Trump supporter and I’m pretty happy right now. I’m making very good money, I have a beautiful wife, my children are successful, and Hillary is not POTUS. The only possibly “want” I could have is some of the guns on my wish list. Particularly a Thompson.

As per the ignorant OP, the reason I post with name calling is because I hate Progressives. The fact that Progressives and their agenda are getting their ignorant asses kicked hard, adds to my happiness.

I am very far from angry, worried, or upset in any way.

Why do you hate progressives?

Probably too many reasons to list. But just a few off the top of my head:

They are hypocrites.
They tell lies that they know full well are lies.
They are party and agenda before country.
They are the true racists.
They are the largest hate group in the world.
They have almost the entire media in their side.
Half of them are profoundly stupid and the other half are compulsive liars.
They don’t know history.
They don’t know economics.
They don’t really care about black people
They don’t really care about women

And that’s just off the top of my head.

Anger....

Where is the hypocrisy?
Where are the lies that are known to be lies?
Where is the party and agenda before country?
Where is the racism?
Why classified as a hate group?

AHHHHHH.....here's the true point of anger "They have almost the entire media on their side".....if that is true, why do you think that is?

Give statistics showing that 50% are stupid and the other 50% compulsive liars
What about being a progressive makes one not know history?
What about being a progressive makes one not know economics?
Why do you say progressives don't care about black people when so many black people ARE progressives?
Why do you say progressives don't care about women when so many women ARE progressives?

 

[Correll]

Pretty much every time I see one of you post, you're calling someone nasty names, or spouting off some ridiculous conspiracy theory, or gnashing your teeth while stereotyping some group and declaring what scum they are, spittle flying from your lips while your face turns a bright neon red and your eyes bug out of your head.

Why can't you just talk calmly and rationally like a civilized person? Why must everything you say/write be tinged with rage?

This may be a couple of things.
Some people have a low tolerance for stupidity. Some are just plants.
You see, what the left specializes in is instigating a confrontation.
You spit in someone's face in order to solicit a violent reaction.
It's a classic communist tactic.

AND THEN, act as though the person you provoked, is the bad guy because of his anger.


John, we are on to you, and we aren't playing by your asshole rules anymore.


THe more you try, the more push back you will get.

You act like a fucking asshole, we will treat you like you deserve.

How so?

THe Race Card is a prime example.

Imagine if you will, that every time you engaged in any discussion, that some piece of shit, that a chorus of drooling morons called you a vile name, every single time.


WOUld you turn the other cheek and just let it ride?

Or would you call them the pieces of shit that they are, and point out that they were fucking cowards for only talking like that online?

Every single time?

Pretty much, as you well know, lefty.

 

[Correll]

We have every reason to be pissed at the left wing media who repeatedly report fake news.

The only "fake news" is coming from Fox and your Cheeto Jesus.

Yup, that must be why liberal news stations are terminating "newscasters" or giving them extended leaves.

Well, one thing we've been learning in the last month is that there are consequences for behavior......you get fired or resign if you are a Leftie or perceived to be a Leftie.....on the other side of the political spectrum, you get elected.

 

[Thinker101]

We have every reason to be pissed at the left wing media who repeatedly report fake news.

The only "fake news" is coming from Fox and your Cheeto Jesus.

Yup, that must be why liberal news stations are terminating "newscasters" or giving them extended leaves.

Well, one thing we've been learning in the last month is that there are consequences for behavior......you get fired or resign if you are a Leftie or perceived to be a Leftie.....on the other side of the political spectrum, you get elected.

Guess we've also learned that one would actually need to have done something to compel them to resign or get fired.

 

[bodecea]

Oh, the idea that white people are oppressed is blithering nonsense. On virtually every discernible measure, they are at the top of the food chain. Longest lifespans, lowest crime rates, most degrees, highest incomes, most business owners, largest chunk of the population.

But the *perception* of white victimization among his core base is something that Trump rabidly feeds. Trump benefits by making white people feel small, weak and powerless.

Winner ^ ^ ^ That's precisely correct. You can feel the Trump effect right here in this thread from certain of his disciples. And kudos to John Shaw for the OP and to several others who've contributed - on both sides of the coin.

There's nothing flamey about the subject matter. We can either discuss it rationally, or return to our corners to reapply the tribal warpaint.

But you're right. Trumplings are VERY afraid of the changing demographics in this country. Trump panders to their worst instincts.

Victimization is a KEY plank in the current Gross Old Perverts party platform....if is played even with the Gross Old Perverts party in control of all three branches of the federal government.

 

[Correll]

Pretty much every time I see one of you post, you're calling someone nasty names, or spouting off some ridiculous conspiracy theory, or gnashing your teeth while stereotyping some group and declaring what scum they are, spittle flying from your lips while your face turns a bright neon red and your eyes bug out of your head.

Why can't you just talk calmly and rationally like a civilized person? Why must everything you say/write be tinged with rage?

The Trump message is predicated on the entitlement politics of white victimihood. That white people are oppressed, victimized, and marginalized. And that Trump will make America Great again by making white people 'powerful' again.

The flip side of this message is that you have to make your target audience feel small, powerless and weak in order to convince them that you can make them large, powerful and strong.

Its the perception of weakness and victimization among Trump's core supporters that is the source of their anger. And Trump regularly feeds that anger for his political benefit. He's kinda a one trick pony in that regard.

But its a really good trick.

Can you make America great again without empowering people?

Oh, the idea that white people are oppressed is blithering nonsense. On virtually every discernible measure, they are at the top of the food chain. Longest lifespans, lowest crime rates, most degrees, highest incomes, most business owners, largest chunk of the population.

But the *perception* of white victimization among his core base is something that Trump rabidly feeds. Trump benefits by making white people feel small, weak and powerless.

That minority community problems are so bad that they outweigh whatever benefit of the discrimination in their favor, is a completely viable answer to your statement.

 

[bodecea]

Pretty much every time I see one of you post, you're calling someone nasty names, or spouting off some ridiculous conspiracy theory, or gnashing your teeth while stereotyping some group and declaring what scum they are.

Why can't you just talk calmly and rationally like a civilized person? Why must everything you say/write be tinged with rage?

They’re saddled with all kinds of grievances over their personal failures, and they’ll be DAMNED if anybody makes them take reponsibility for it!

They are frightened, terrified...afraid of change, progress, social evolution, loss of white privilege, loss of a cozy little world where they are the favored race, where their religion controls everything, where their view of the world is maintained. They are like a scared wild animal, screaming and squealing and squirming, biting and hissing at anything they feel is a threat.

Ever seen a frightened/threatened cat? Puffs itself up to make itself look twice as large as it really is.......

 

[bodecea]

You could just ... not watch it?

So you're okay with the media spreading propaganda?
How fascist of you.

Haven't we had to put up with it with parts of the media, FOX and Breitbart, etc. for quite a while?

Had the MSM been honest alternate media wouldn't have been needed now would they?

Are you serious? Alternative media has been there and continues to be there to sucker the weak of mind....just a political bent to the old tabloids that have been around and before them the yellow journalism papers and so on and so forth. It's all about making money off that target audience...the easily led thru pretend persecution.

The MSM have been shilling for the DNC for the last two decades at the very least and now the chickens are coming home to roost.

So...you put that at the last two decades.....why is this just coming to be an issue now then?

 

[Thinker101]

Oh, the idea that white people are oppressed is blithering nonsense. On virtually every discernible measure, they are at the top of the food chain. Longest lifespans, lowest crime rates, most degrees, highest incomes, most business owners, largest chunk of the population.

But the *perception* of white victimization among his core base is something that Trump rabidly feeds. Trump benefits by making white people feel small, weak and powerless.

Winner ^ ^ ^ That's precisely correct. You can feel the Trump effect right here in this thread from certain of his disciples. And kudos to John Shaw for the OP and to several others who've contributed - on both sides of the coin.

There's nothing flamey about the subject matter. We can either discuss it rationally, or return to our corners to reapply the tribal warpaint.

But you're right. Trumplings are VERY afraid of the changing demographics in this country. Trump panders to their worst instincts.

Victimization is a KEY plank in the current Gross Old Perverts party platform....if is played even with the Gross Old Perverts party in control of all three branches of the federal government.

So, you're suggesting all the liberal wackos that have resigned or encouraged to resign have all been victimized? LOL...sure.

 

[Correll]

AND THEN, act as though the person you provoked, is the bad guy because of his anger.

John, we are on to you, and we aren't playing by your asshole rules anymore.

THe more you try, the more push back you will get.

You act like a fucking asshole, we will treat you like you deserve.

Well there's the spittle John was referring to

Anger is the healthy response to someone being a fucking asshole.


WHat part of that do you disagree with, fucktard?