Trump to deploy up to 100,000 National Guard troops to round up illegals

[Winston]

The National Guard is not meant to be used as law enforcement unless there has been a disaster. This would be a abuse of the Guard and the first step to a police state. This would be so typical of Trump who clearly is a wanna be Putin.

Trump is the guy that favors smaller government. No, the guard isn't going to be deployed like ICE. They aren't trained for it, didn't sign up for it, and is well apart from their purpose.

Trump can't call up the National Guard for the purpose of "law enforcement". He can ask, nicely, and the governors might order it. But Trump himself does not have that authority and he cannot legally order the US Army or the US Air Force to enforce domestic policy, that is a violation of the Posse Comitatus Act. He might try to order the Navy or Marines but they would most likely tell him to pound sand.

Trumps NPD be damned. If he wants to get in a pissing match with the US Military he is going to get a real taste of humility.

 

[MindWars]

 

[Iceweasel]

The National Guard is not meant to be used as law enforcement unless there has been a disaster. This would be a abuse of the Guard and the first step to a police state. This would be so typical of Trump who clearly is a wanna be Putin.

Trump is the guy that favors smaller government. No, the guard isn't going to be deployed like ICE. They aren't trained for it, didn't sign up for it, and is well apart from their purpose.

I think Trump is a guy who thinks outside the box and isn't afraid to do whatever it is he has to do to GET SHIT DONE. Don't rule anything out with this guy...forget all you know about status quo.

It ain't happening. Hell, they would use street cops before that and there would be too much flack, shit going wrong. Plus if they are undocumented it's a bit hard to follow a paper trail.

Best to wait and deport as we have been. Obama deported more than the last three combined, although he let them back in easy enough.

 

[Iceweasel]

Trumps NPD be damned. If he wants to get in a pissing match with the US Military he is going to get a real taste of humility.

More fake outrage. The military supports him and he hasn't said anything like that. It's just snowflakes melting.

 

[Winston]

The National Guard is not meant to be used as law enforcement unless there has been a disaster. This would be a abuse of the Guard and the first step to a police state. This would be so typical of Trump who clearly is a wanna be Putin.

Trump is the guy that favors smaller government. No, the guard isn't going to be deployed like ICE. They aren't trained for it, didn't sign up for it, and is well apart from their purpose.

I think Trump is a guy who thinks outside the box and isn't afraid to do whatever it is he has to do to GET SHIT DONE. Don't rule anything out with this guy...forget all you know about status quo.

I know this much, when President Lincoln asked the governors to send troops to enforce domestic policy some of them decided to mass troops against the government instead.

 

[BrokeLoser]

The National Guard is not meant to be used as law enforcement unless there has been a disaster. This would be a abuse of the Guard and the first step to a police state. This would be so typical of Trump who clearly is a wanna be Putin.

Trump is the guy that favors smaller government. No, the guard isn't going to be deployed like ICE. They aren't trained for it, didn't sign up for it, and is well apart from their purpose.

Trump can't call up the National Guard for the purpose of "law enforcement". He can ask, nicely, and the governors might order it. But Trump himself does not have that authority and he cannot legally order the US Army or the US Air Force to enforce domestic policy, that is a violation of the Posse Comitatus Act. He might try to order the Navy or Marines but they would most likely tell him to pound sand.

Trumps NPD be damned. If he wants to get in a pissing match with the US Military he is going to get a real taste of humility.

The Posse Comitatus Act is a United States federal law (18 U.S.C. § 1385, original at 20 Stat. 152) signed on June 18, 1878 by President Rutherford B. Hayes. The purpose of the act – in concert with the Insurrection Act of 1807 – is to limit the powers of the federal governmentin using federal military personnel to enforce domestic policies within the United States. It was passed as an amendment to an army appropriation bill following the end of Reconstruction, and was subsequently updated in 1956 and 1981.

The Act only specifically applies to the United States Army and, as amended in 1956, the United States Air Force. While the Act does not explicitly mention the United States Navy and the United States Marine Corps, the Department of the Navy has prescribed regulations that are generally construed to give the Act force with respect to those services as well. The Act does not apply to the Army National Guard and the AirNational Guard under state authority from acting in a law enforcement capacity within its home state or in an adjacent state if invited by that state's governor. The United States Coast Guard, which operates under the Department of Homeland Security, is not covered by the Posse Comitatus Act either, primarily because although the Coast Guard is an armed service, it also has both a maritime law enforcement mission and a federal regulatory agency mission.

 

[Bruce_T_Laney]

Maybe?
Go get em' boss!
Reported by the Associated Press

Link, please.

I just heard it on 740 AM, and it look like it is fake news...

 

[Camp]

The fake news is the OP claiming the AP reported an order being signed.

 

[Harry Dresden]

You think that a President ordering a mass deployment of National Guard troops to kick in doors and round people up on American Soil would be a good thing?

Thank god this is a bullshit claim since the police state we have now is already bad enough.

I think it would be the best thing I've seen in years, if it was actually true.

We don't have anything like a police state. I wish we did.

have you ever thought of actually moving to one instead of just talking?...

 

[TNHarley]

The fake news is the OP claiming the AP reported an order being signed.

document, whatever.
It was bullshit. Quit splitting hairs and making it look like you defend malarkey

 

[JohnnyApplesack]

The Associated Press has had a rough few months, caught time and again openly lying in their war on Donald Trump.

The AP is at it again, and lied about National Guard Troops being used to round up illegal aliens. The AP claimed the White House signed an order deploying 100,000 troops to round up illegals. Of course no such order was issued, but in their zeal to smear the President, the AP ran it as fact and many news agencies repeated the fake news story as fact.

White House Quickly Debunks AP Report That They Were Sending National Guard Troops to Find Illegal Immigrants

the right wingers labeling all non-bubble news as 'fake' is a desperate gambit

only Cheetolini lovers drone on and on with this rubbish, it ain't flyin so far

 

[TNHarley]

The Associated Press has had a rough few months, caught time and again openly lying in their war on Donald Trump.

The AP is at it again, and lied about National Guard Troops being used to round up illegal aliens. The AP claimed the White House signed an order deploying 100,000 troops to round up illegals. Of course no such order was issued, but in their zeal to smear the President, the AP ran it as fact and many news agencies repeated the fake news story as fact.

White House Quickly Debunks AP Report That They Were Sending National Guard Troops to Find Illegal Immigrants

the right wingers labeling all non-bubble news as 'fake' is a desperate gambit

only Cheetolini lovers drone on and on with this rubbish, it ain't flyin so far

What other word would be fitting for "made up bullshit?"

 

[Winston]

The National Guard is not meant to be used as law enforcement unless there has been a disaster. This would be a abuse of the Guard and the first step to a police state. This would be so typical of Trump who clearly is a wanna be Putin.

Trump is the guy that favors smaller government. No, the guard isn't going to be deployed like ICE. They aren't trained for it, didn't sign up for it, and is well apart from their purpose.

Trump can't call up the National Guard for the purpose of "law enforcement". He can ask, nicely, and the governors might order it. But Trump himself does not have that authority and he cannot legally order the US Army or the US Air Force to enforce domestic policy, that is a violation of the Posse Comitatus Act. He might try to order the Navy or Marines but they would most likely tell him to pound sand.

Trumps NPD be damned. If he wants to get in a pissing match with the US Military he is going to get a real taste of humility.

The Posse Comitatus Act is a United States federal law (18 U.S.C. § 1385, original at 20 Stat. 152) signed on June 18, 1878 by President Rutherford B. Hayes. The purpose of the act – in concert with the Insurrection Act of 1807 – is to limit the powers of the federal governmentin using federal military personnel to enforce domestic policies within the United States. It was passed as an amendment to an army appropriation bill following the end of Reconstruction, and was subsequently updated in 1956 and 1981.

The Act only specifically applies to the United States Army and, as amended in 1956, the United States Air Force. While the Act does not explicitly mention the United States Navy and the United States Marine Corps, the Department of the Navy has prescribed regulations that are generally construed to give the Act force with respect to those services as well. The Act does not apply to the Army National Guard and the AirNational Guard under state authority from acting in a law enforcement capacity within its home state or in an adjacent state if invited by that state's governor. The United States Coast Guard, which operates under the Department of Homeland Security, is not covered by the Posse Comitatus Act either, primarily because although the Coast Guard is an armed service, it also has both a maritime law enforcement mission and a federal regulatory agency mission.

Exactly, under STATE authority, by order or invitation of the GOVERNOR. Like I said Trump can ask nicely. Lincoln ASKED. George Washington ASKED. It was George Wallace standing in the school house door, and JUST George Wallace, that necessitated a federalized national guard. So, it might work for one raving lunatic governor, it wouldn't work for a hundred thousand "Illegals" any better than it did for a half million seceding southerners

 

[Winston]

Maybe?
Go get em' boss!
Reported by the Associated Press

Link, please.

I just heard it on 740 AM, and it look like it is fake news...

Sean SpicerVerified account‏@PressSec
Sean Spicer Retweeted The Associated Press

This is not true. DHS also confirms it is 100% false

Sean Spicer (@PressSec) | Twitter

There, we done here.

 

[Missourian]

Trump is likely feeding bogus information to insiders suspected of leaking information. It's win/win...they get to narrow down the leak and pound the media for printing fake news.

 

[JohnnyApplesack]

The Associated Press has had a rough few months, caught time and again openly lying in their war on Donald Trump.

The AP is at it again, and lied about National Guard Troops being used to round up illegal aliens. The AP claimed the White House signed an order deploying 100,000 troops to round up illegals. Of course no such order was issued, but in their zeal to smear the President, the AP ran it as fact and many news agencies repeated the fake news story as fact.

White House Quickly Debunks AP Report That They Were Sending National Guard Troops to Find Illegal Immigrants

the right wingers labeling all non-bubble news as 'fake' is a desperate gambit

only Cheetolini lovers drone on and on with this rubbish, it ain't flyin so far

What other word would be fitting for "made up bullshit?"

Faux News

Limbaugh

Jones

etc etc etc

 

[Marion Morrison]

The Associated Press has had a rough few months, caught time and again openly lying in their war on Donald Trump.

The AP is at it again, and lied about National Guard Troops being used to round up illegal aliens. The AP claimed the White House signed an order deploying 100,000 troops to round up illegals. Of course no such order was issued, but in their zeal to smear the President, the AP ran it as fact and many news agencies repeated the fake news story as fact.

White House Quickly Debunks AP Report That They Were Sending National Guard Troops to Find Illegal Immigrants

the right wingers labeling all non-bubble news as 'fake' is a desperate gambit

only Cheetolini lovers drone on and on with this rubbish, it ain't flyin so far

What's not flying so far is your thread based on "White House discusses deploying 100,000 National Guard" with the AP link.

 

[TNHarley]

The Associated Press has had a rough few months, caught time and again openly lying in their war on Donald Trump.

The AP is at it again, and lied about National Guard Troops being used to round up illegal aliens. The AP claimed the White House signed an order deploying 100,000 troops to round up illegals. Of course no such order was issued, but in their zeal to smear the President, the AP ran it as fact and many news agencies repeated the fake news story as fact.

White House Quickly Debunks AP Report That They Were Sending National Guard Troops to Find Illegal Immigrants

the right wingers labeling all non-bubble news as 'fake' is a desperate gambit

only Cheetolini lovers drone on and on with this rubbish, it ain't flyin so far

What other word would be fitting for "made up bullshit?"

Faux News

Limbaugh

Jones

etc etc etc

 

[Missourian]

In their continuing mission as the Propaganda Arm of the Democrat Party, the Mainstream Media reports fake news again...and no one is surprised...

 

[Bruce_T_Laney]

Maybe?
Go get em' boss!
Reported by the Associated Press

Link, please.

I just heard it on 740 AM, and it look like it is fake news...

Sean SpicerVerified account‏@PressSec
Sean Spicer Retweeted The Associated Press

This is not true. DHS also confirms it is 100% false

Sean Spicer (@PressSec) | Twitter

There, we done here.

And what part of look like fake news was so hard to understand?

It look like AP made the mistake and ran with tabloid nonsense.