Trump, Trump supporters, Socialism, and the Economy

[Mac1958]

Trump says it's good so it's good. That is the entirety of current conservative ideology.

Actually the process is, talk radio says it's good, then Trump says it's good, then the Trumpsters say it's good.

Any issue. Any topic. Doesn't matter.
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Sadly Obama supporters defended him inflating the economy in the same way Trump is.

Obama did the only thing he could do: He stood back as the Fed pumped $4.5T into markets.

That was digging us out of a catastrophe. This is happening in a non-recessionary period, something Keynes himself would have opposed.
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Except as the chart I posted shows, that is not happening.

Why are you continuing with the fake news? The so called "QE" is only to put in back some money that was removed.

Tiring with Mac that when some of the fake information he spreads gets corrected, nothing happens. He just pretends that the money printer was howling the whole time as under Obama.

I know. "Fake News". I get it.

Maybe someone else will try to answer.

Not looking good so far, though.
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[pknopp]

Trump says it's good so it's good. That is the entirety of current conservative ideology.

Actually the process is, talk radio says it's good, then Trump says it's good, then the Trumpsters say it's good.

Any issue. Any topic. Doesn't matter.
.

Sadly Obama supporters defended him inflating the economy in the same way Trump is.

Obama did the only thing he could do: He stood back as the Fed pumped $4.5T into markets.

That was digging us out of a catastrophe. This is happening in a non-recessionary period, something Keynes himself would have opposed.
.

Except as the chart I posted shows, that is not happening.

Why are you continuing with the fake news? The so called "QE" is only to put in back some money that was removed.

Tiring with Mac that when some of the fake information he spreads gets corrected, nothing happens. He just pretends that the money printer was howling the whole time as under Obama.

If you were winding down and then ramped back up how is that not ramping it back up?

Do they have some plan to stop?

 

[Mac1958]

The Fed will be growing its balance sheet again, but don't call it 'QE4'

 

[pknopp]

Trump says it's good so it's good. That is the entirety of current conservative ideology.

Actually the process is, talk radio says it's good, then Trump says it's good, then the Trumpsters say it's good.

Any issue. Any topic. Doesn't matter.
.

Sadly Obama supporters defended him inflating the economy in the same way Trump is.

Obama did the only thing he could do: He stood back as the Fed pumped $4.5T into markets.

That was digging us out of a catastrophe. This is happening in a non-recessionary period, something Keynes himself would have opposed.
.

Nah. He could have boosted the lower classes. He could have helped people stay in their homes. Instead he bent over for Wall Street.

We disagree there. We were literally hours from complete collapse. It was the first and only time I was worried about my money and that of my advisory clients.

We were right there. Something had to be committed to, and it had to be big. Right now.
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No, we were not hours from complete collapse. That's the same B.S. that fed is the line about how Saddam was a nuclear threat unless we did something.

 

[Mac1958]

January 9: Fed Adds $83.1 Billion in Short-term Money to Markets

Socialism!

 

[Mac1958]

Actually the process is, talk radio says it's good, then Trump says it's good, then the Trumpsters say it's good.

Any issue. Any topic. Doesn't matter.
.

Sadly Obama supporters defended him inflating the economy in the same way Trump is.

Obama did the only thing he could do: He stood back as the Fed pumped $4.5T into markets.

That was digging us out of a catastrophe. This is happening in a non-recessionary period, something Keynes himself would have opposed.
.

Nah. He could have boosted the lower classes. He could have helped people stay in their homes. Instead he bent over for Wall Street.

We disagree there. We were literally hours from complete collapse. It was the first and only time I was worried about my money and that of my advisory clients.

We were right there. Something had to be committed to, and it had to be big. Right now.
.

No, we were not hours from complete collapse. That's the same B.S. that fed is the line about how Saddam was a nuclear threat unless we did something.

We disagree. I'm neck deep in this stuff.
.

 

[pknopp]

January 9: Fed Adds $83.1 Billion in Short-term Money to Markets

Socialism!

Short term is now defined as decades.

 

[Norman]

Trump says it's good so it's good. That is the entirety of current conservative ideology.

Actually the process is, talk radio says it's good, then Trump says it's good, then the Trumpsters say it's good.

Any issue. Any topic. Doesn't matter.
.

Sadly Obama supporters defended him inflating the economy in the same way Trump is.

Obama did the only thing he could do: He stood back as the Fed pumped $4.5T into markets.

That was digging us out of a catastrophe. This is happening in a non-recessionary period, something Keynes himself would have opposed.
.

Except as the chart I posted shows, that is not happening.

Why are you continuing with the fake news? The so called "QE" is only to put in back some money that was removed.

Tiring with Mac that when some of the fake information he spreads gets corrected, nothing happens. He just pretends that the money printer was howling the whole time as under Obama.

I know. "Fake News". I get it.

Maybe someone else will try to answer.

Not looking good so far, though.
.

This is the real Fed balance sheet Mac.

You seem to have trouble understanding the difference between fake news and real news. Fake news is what you posted, that Fed is printing like never before under Trump... well not completely fake news, this possibly is the first president ever with DECREASING Fed balance sheet.

 

[Mac1958]

Actually the process is, talk radio says it's good, then Trump says it's good, then the Trumpsters say it's good.

Any issue. Any topic. Doesn't matter.
.

Sadly Obama supporters defended him inflating the economy in the same way Trump is.

Obama did the only thing he could do: He stood back as the Fed pumped $4.5T into markets.

That was digging us out of a catastrophe. This is happening in a non-recessionary period, something Keynes himself would have opposed.
.

Except as the chart I posted shows, that is not happening.

Why are you continuing with the fake news? The so called "QE" is only to put in back some money that was removed.

Tiring with Mac that when some of the fake information he spreads gets corrected, nothing happens. He just pretends that the money printer was howling the whole time as under Obama.

I know. "Fake News". I get it.

Maybe someone else will try to answer.

Not looking good so far, though.
.

This is the real Fed balance sheet Mac.

You seem to have trouble understanding the difference between fake news and real news. Fake news is what you posted, that Fed is printing like never before under Trump... well not completely fake news, this possibly is the first president ever with DECREASING Fed balance sheet.

I appreciate your efforts.
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[pknopp]

Sadly Obama supporters defended him inflating the economy in the same way Trump is.

Obama did the only thing he could do: He stood back as the Fed pumped $4.5T into markets.

That was digging us out of a catastrophe. This is happening in a non-recessionary period, something Keynes himself would have opposed.
.

Nah. He could have boosted the lower classes. He could have helped people stay in their homes. Instead he bent over for Wall Street.

We disagree there. We were literally hours from complete collapse. It was the first and only time I was worried about my money and that of my advisory clients.

We were right there. Something had to be committed to, and it had to be big. Right now.
.

No, we were not hours from complete collapse. That's the same B.S. that fed is the line about how Saddam was a nuclear threat unless we did something.

We disagree. I'm neck deep in this stuff.
.

As is the farmer.

 

[Mac1958]

Obama did the only thing he could do: He stood back as the Fed pumped $4.5T into markets.

That was digging us out of a catastrophe. This is happening in a non-recessionary period, something Keynes himself would have opposed.
.

Nah. He could have boosted the lower classes. He could have helped people stay in their homes. Instead he bent over for Wall Street.

We disagree there. We were literally hours from complete collapse. It was the first and only time I was worried about my money and that of my advisory clients.

We were right there. Something had to be committed to, and it had to be big. Right now.
.

No, we were not hours from complete collapse. That's the same B.S. that fed is the line about how Saddam was a nuclear threat unless we did something.

We disagree. I'm neck deep in this stuff.
.

As is the farmer.

Amen. We allowed this fucking disaster to happen with "moral hazard". The small guy got SHIT ON. Agreed.
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[Harpy Eagle]

REAL NEWS: Trump economy is unbeatable.

FAKE NEWS: This is because of Fed, and not because of Trump winning.

Trump is possibly the first president ever during whom money printer was turned off.

Once Trump wins in 2020 the deficit will get fixed, even more winning.

How will deficits get fixed?

Easiest question ever... by voting dems out of the house.

Except that the deficit went up by 33% the two years the Repubs controlled the House, the Senate and the White House.

Would you like to try again?

Vote out the never Trumpers as well then...

That sounds nice, but it ignores the fact that Trump submitted the largest budget request in our nation's history.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Actually the process is, talk radio says it's good, then Trump says it's good, then the Trumpsters say it's good.

Any issue. Any topic. Doesn't matter.
.

Sadly Obama supporters defended him inflating the economy in the same way Trump is.

Obama did the only thing he could do: He stood back as the Fed pumped $4.5T into markets.

That was digging us out of a catastrophe. This is happening in a non-recessionary period, something Keynes himself would have opposed.
.

Except as the chart I posted shows, that is not happening.

Why are you continuing with the fake news? The so called "QE" is only to put in back some money that was removed.

Tiring with Mac that when some of the fake information he spreads gets corrected, nothing happens. He just pretends that the money printer was howling the whole time as under Obama.

I know. "Fake News". I get it.

Maybe someone else will try to answer.

Not looking good so far, though.
.

This is the real Fed balance sheet Mac.

You seem to have trouble understanding the difference between fake news and real news. Fake news is what you posted, that Fed is printing like never before under Trump... well not completely fake news, this possibly is the first president ever with DECREASING Fed balance sheet.

Mac did not say that the Fed is printing like never before under Trump.

 

[pknopp]

REAL NEWS: Trump economy is unbeatable.

FAKE NEWS: This is because of Fed, and not because of Trump winning.

Trump is possibly the first president ever during whom money printer was turned off.

Once Trump wins in 2020 the deficit will get fixed, even more winning.

How will deficits get fixed?

Easiest question ever... by voting dems out of the house.

Except that the deficit went up by 33% the two years the Repubs controlled the House, the Senate and the White House.

Would you like to try again?

Vote out the never Trumpers as well then...

That sounds nice, but it ignores the fact that Trump submitted the largest budget request in our nation's history.

Along with deficits equally Obama's.

 

[Mac1958]

Sadly Obama supporters defended him inflating the economy in the same way Trump is.

Obama did the only thing he could do: He stood back as the Fed pumped $4.5T into markets.

That was digging us out of a catastrophe. This is happening in a non-recessionary period, something Keynes himself would have opposed.
.

Except as the chart I posted shows, that is not happening.

Why are you continuing with the fake news? The so called "QE" is only to put in back some money that was removed.

Tiring with Mac that when some of the fake information he spreads gets corrected, nothing happens. He just pretends that the money printer was howling the whole time as under Obama.

I know. "Fake News". I get it.

Maybe someone else will try to answer.

Not looking good so far, though.
.

This is the real Fed balance sheet Mac.

You seem to have trouble understanding the difference between fake news and real news. Fake news is what you posted, that Fed is printing like never before under Trump... well not completely fake news, this possibly is the first president ever with DECREASING Fed balance sheet.

Mac did not say that the Fed is printing like never before under Trump.

It doesn't matter to them. He just wants to change the subject.
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[Harpy Eagle]

How will deficits get fixed?

Easiest question ever... by voting dems out of the house.

Except that the deficit went up by 33% the two years the Repubs controlled the House, the Senate and the White House.

Would you like to try again?

Vote out the never Trumpers as well then...

That sounds nice, but it ignores the fact that Trump submitted the largest budget request in our nation's history.

Along with deficits equally Obama's.

Trump is going to break the trillion dollar mark during a booming economy...nobody has ever come close to that.

During the last recession the deficit tripled in one year, imagine what happens when the deficit is already a trillion dollars.

 

[Norman]

Sadly Obama supporters defended him inflating the economy in the same way Trump is.

Obama did the only thing he could do: He stood back as the Fed pumped $4.5T into markets.

That was digging us out of a catastrophe. This is happening in a non-recessionary period, something Keynes himself would have opposed.
.

Except as the chart I posted shows, that is not happening.

Why are you continuing with the fake news? The so called "QE" is only to put in back some money that was removed.

Tiring with Mac that when some of the fake information he spreads gets corrected, nothing happens. He just pretends that the money printer was howling the whole time as under Obama.

I know. "Fake News". I get it.

Maybe someone else will try to answer.

Not looking good so far, though.
.

This is the real Fed balance sheet Mac.

You seem to have trouble understanding the difference between fake news and real news. Fake news is what you posted, that Fed is printing like never before under Trump... well not completely fake news, this possibly is the first president ever with DECREASING Fed balance sheet.

Mac did not say that the Fed is printing like never before under Trump.

That was his implication...

Mac is fake news. What clearly happened is he saw one of those stories about the FED expanding its balance sheet and unfortunately has no sense of proportions. Then you look at the real data and it looks different than what CNN or whatever he read proclaims.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Obama did the only thing he could do: He stood back as the Fed pumped $4.5T into markets.

That was digging us out of a catastrophe. This is happening in a non-recessionary period, something Keynes himself would have opposed.
.

Except as the chart I posted shows, that is not happening.

Why are you continuing with the fake news? The so called "QE" is only to put in back some money that was removed.

Tiring with Mac that when some of the fake information he spreads gets corrected, nothing happens. He just pretends that the money printer was howling the whole time as under Obama.

I know. "Fake News". I get it.

Maybe someone else will try to answer.

Not looking good so far, though.
.

This is the real Fed balance sheet Mac.

You seem to have trouble understanding the difference between fake news and real news. Fake news is what you posted, that Fed is printing like never before under Trump... well not completely fake news, this possibly is the first president ever with DECREASING Fed balance sheet.

Mac did not say that the Fed is printing like never before under Trump.

That was his implication...

Mac is fake news.

That is not how I read it. Your knee jerk reaction to defend Trump to your dying breath gets in the way of you being logical or reasonable.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

REAL NEWS: Trump economy is unbeatable.

FAKE NEWS: This is because of Fed, and not because of Trump winning.

Trump is possibly the first president ever during whom money printer was turned off.

Once Trump wins in 2020 the deficit will get fixed, even more winning.

How will deficits get fixed?

Cutting the Federal government in 1/2 and stop paying welfare to shitfucks who sit on the lazy liberal butts. It isnt a revenue problem, it is a government spending problem.

The federal government has a spending problem, not a revenue problem

Compared to historical averages from 1965 to 2014, spending is rising much faster than revenues. Spending is projected to rise almost 6 percentage points higher than its historical average, whereas revenue is projected to rise only 2 percentage points above average revenue.

U.S. National Debt Clock : Real Time

This year we are taking in the largest tax revenues ever. Liberal policies are spending 1 trillion more. 1 trillion dollars gets paid to the War on Poverty. Stop paying for that endless war, the budget is balanced.

 

[Mac1958]

Except as the chart I posted shows, that is not happening.

Why are you continuing with the fake news? The so called "QE" is only to put in back some money that was removed.

Tiring with Mac that when some of the fake information he spreads gets corrected, nothing happens. He just pretends that the money printer was howling the whole time as under Obama.

I know. "Fake News". I get it.

Maybe someone else will try to answer.

Not looking good so far, though.
.

This is the real Fed balance sheet Mac.

You seem to have trouble understanding the difference between fake news and real news. Fake news is what you posted, that Fed is printing like never before under Trump... well not completely fake news, this possibly is the first president ever with DECREASING Fed balance sheet.

Mac did not say that the Fed is printing like never before under Trump.

That was his implication...

Mac is fake news.

That is not how I read it. Your knee jerk reaction to defend Trump to your dying breath gets in the way of you being logical or reasonable.

Just remember, there's a LOT that they're not told. They just don't know.

Or they're lying. I don't know. I wish I did.
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