Trump unveils “Lower Drug Prices For Americans”...Lefties must be pissed?

[BrokeLoser]

Trump hasn't delivered anything but a bag of hot air.

He delivered plenty, but if you keep watching PeeNN for your news, you''ll never know it.

The real fake news is fox news all propaganda.The idiot in the oval office hasn't done a dam thing he's a coward.

What you really mean is...he hasn’t made illegals, low-life’s, weirdos and trash feel important and you’re pissed...right?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Trump hasn't delivered anything but a bag of hot air.

He delivered plenty, but if you keep watching PeeNN for your news, you''ll never know it.

The real fake news is fox news all propaganda.The idiot in the oval office hasn't done a dam thing he's a coward.

Well then I guess I'm seeing the fake news in my paycheck every two weeks. I guess my tax preparer is going to prepare her clients taxes next year with fake news. I guess the likelihood of denuclearizing NK is fake news. I guess the most recent capture of five top ISIS members is fake news. I guess defeating them in Iraq is fake news. I guess the lowest unemployment rate in history for black workers is fake news. I guess the release of three NK American prisoners is fake news. Any other fake news you'd like me to tell you about?

 

[regent]

They hate anything aimed at benefiting REAL Americans.
This dude is such a badass...he’s always looking to piss the Left off...haha
I wonder how many good, REAL Americans are offended by ‘American Patients First’?
Trump promises to ‘derail the gravy train’ and lower drug prices in ‘American Patients First’ plan

Problem is, someone from the pharma industry will be around to convince him it's a bad idea.

Remember when he said he'd deal with the guns problem? Then the NRA turned up. He no longer saw a problem.

Fucking with the Constitution and the Second was a bad idea...I don’t think pharma has any Constitutional protection.

Does this mean Trump no longer needs drug company donations because he's not running again, or that the drug industry and Trump have an understanding that drug donations will be delayed for a time?

 

[AntiTrump]

Trump hasn't delivered anything but a bag of hot air.

He delivered plenty, but if you keep watching PeeNN for your news, you''ll never know it.

The real fake news is fox news all propaganda.The idiot in the oval office hasn't done a dam thing he's a coward.

Well then I guess I'm seeing the fake news in my paycheck every two weeks. I guess my tax preparer is going to prepare her clients taxes next year with fake news. I guess the likelihood of denuclearizing NK is fake news. I guess the most recent capture of five top ISIS members is fake news. I guess defeating them in Iraq is fake news. I guess the lowest unemployment rate in history for black workers is fake news. I guess the release of three NK American prisoners is fake news. Any other fake news you'd like me to tell you about?

The tax cut is exactly hurting the economy.The lowest unemployment rate for blacks is a lie.The so called mr.trump has lied 3,000 times and he's a criminal may i keep going.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Trump hasn't delivered anything but a bag of hot air.

He delivered plenty, but if you keep watching PeeNN for your news, you''ll never know it.

The real fake news is fox news all propaganda.The idiot in the oval office hasn't done a dam thing he's a coward.

Well then I guess I'm seeing the fake news in my paycheck every two weeks. I guess my tax preparer is going to prepare her clients taxes next year with fake news. I guess the likelihood of denuclearizing NK is fake news. I guess the most recent capture of five top ISIS members is fake news. I guess defeating them in Iraq is fake news. I guess the lowest unemployment rate in history for black workers is fake news. I guess the release of three NK American prisoners is fake news. Any other fake news you'd like me to tell you about?

The tax cut is exactly hurting the economy.The lowest unemployment rate for blacks is a lie.The so called mr.trump has lied 3,000 times and he's a criminal may i keep going.

“Something I’m very proud of: African American unemployment stands at the lowest rate ever recorded. And Hispanic American unemployment has also reached the lowest levels in history,” President Trump said Tuesday.

He’s right on black unemployment but not quite right on the rate for Latinos.

The Bureau of Labor Statistics reported last month that the unemployment rate for blacks dropped to 6.8% in December, the lowest since the government began tracking the figure in 1972.

Fact check: Black unemployment rate is at a record low; Latino rate is close

Is the LA Times left enough for you to believe it's true?

 

[frigidweirdo]

They hate anything aimed at benefiting REAL Americans.
This dude is such a badass...he’s always looking to piss the Left off...haha
I wonder how many good, REAL Americans are offended by ‘American Patients First’?
Trump promises to ‘derail the gravy train’ and lower drug prices in ‘American Patients First’ plan

Problem is, someone from the pharma industry will be around to convince him it's a bad idea.

Remember when he said he'd deal with the guns problem? Then the NRA turned up. He no longer saw a problem.

Fucking with the Constitution and the Second was a bad idea...I don’t think pharma has any Constitutional protection.

I'm not talking about Constitutional protection. So, why are you?

 

[frigidweirdo]

They hate anything aimed at benefiting REAL Americans.
This dude is such a badass...he’s always looking to piss the Left off...haha
I wonder how many good, REAL Americans are offended by ‘American Patients First’?
Trump promises to ‘derail the gravy train’ and lower drug prices in ‘American Patients First’ plan

Problem is, someone from the pharma industry will be around to convince him it's a bad idea.

Remember when he said he'd deal with the guns problem? Then the NRA turned up. He no longer saw a problem.

Fucking with the Constitution and the Second was a bad idea...I don’t think pharma has any Constitutional protection.

Does this mean Trump no longer needs drug company donations because he's not running again, or that the drug industry and Trump have an understanding that drug donations will be delayed for a time?

But it's not TRUMP who needs those donations, it's all the other Republicans running in November who need them.

 

[oreo]

They hate anything aimed at benefiting REAL Americans.
This dude is such a badass...he’s always looking to piss the Left off...haha
I wonder how many good, REAL Americans are offended by ‘American Patients First’?
Trump promises to ‘derail the gravy train’ and lower drug prices in ‘American Patients First’ plan

Campaigning on something and actually getting it done are two different things. In fact, the only candidate during the campaign season that was campaigning on lower prescription drug prices, and actually had a plan to get it done was Hillary Clinton.

Typically big PHARMA are in the wallets of Republicans. And Michael Cohen, Trump's personal attorney had a yuuuuuge pay for play going on with one big pharmacutical company.

Healthcare giant Novartis says it signed a $1.2 million contract with Michael Cohen's consulting firm, took one meeting, and realized he couldn't help them

Healthcare giant Novartis says it signed a $1.2 million contract with Michael Cohen's consulting firm, took one meeting, and realized he couldn't help them
What Did A.T. & T. Pay Michael Cohen For? | The New Yorker
Everything We Know About Trump Lawyer Michael Cohen's 'Essential Consultants'

It's fairly clear that this entire administration is centered around expanding their personal business interests, including Trump who was planning on building a Trump tower in downtown Moscow while he was running for POTUS.

While Donald Trump was running for president in late 2015 and early 2016, his company was pursuing a plan to develop a massive Trump Tower in Moscow, according to several people familiar with the proposal and new records reviewed by Trump Organization lawyers.

Trump’s business sought deal on a Trump Tower in Moscow while he ran for president

For more go to this link on this board and scroll down to post # 56. There you can watch 2 FOX NEWS video's, and 1 video of Trump admitting to Obstruction of Justice on National T.V.
It’s Russia, Russia, Russia

Then read a book that goes into all of these foreign interests.

Very well written, easy to follow, & hard to put down
Top seller on Amazon.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

They hate anything aimed at benefiting REAL Americans.
This dude is such a badass...he’s always looking to piss the Left off...haha
I wonder how many good, REAL Americans are offended by ‘American Patients First’?
Trump promises to ‘derail the gravy train’ and lower drug prices in ‘American Patients First’ plan

Campaigning on something and actually getting it done are two different things. In fact, the only candidate during the campaign season that was campaigning on lower prescription drug prices, and actually had a plan to get it done was Hillary Clinton.

Typically big PHARMA are in the wallets of Republicans. And Michael Cohen, Trump's personal attorney had a yuuuuuge pay for play going on with one big pharmacutical company.

Healthcare giant Novartis says it signed a $1.2 million contract with Michael Cohen's consulting firm, took one meeting, and realized he couldn't help them

Healthcare giant Novartis says it signed a $1.2 million contract with Michael Cohen's consulting firm, took one meeting, and realized he couldn't help them
What Did A.T. & T. Pay Michael Cohen For? | The New Yorker
Everything We Know About Trump Lawyer Michael Cohen's 'Essential Consultants'

It's fairly clear that this entire administration is centered around expanding their personal business interests, including Trump who was planning on building a Trump tower in downtown Moscow while he was running for POTUS.

While Donald Trump was running for president in late 2015 and early 2016, his company was pursuing a plan to develop a massive Trump Tower in Moscow, according to several people familiar with the proposal and new records reviewed by Trump Organization lawyers.

Trump’s business sought deal on a Trump Tower in Moscow while he ran for president

For more go to this link on this board and scroll down to post # 56. There you can watch 2 FOX NEWS video's, and 1 video of Trump admitting to Obstruction of Justice on National T.V.
It’s Russia, Russia, Russia

Then read a book that goes into all of these foreign interests.

Very well written, easy to follow, & hard to put down
Top seller on Amazon.

 

[ThoughtCrimes]

Anyone waiting to review the pending legislation will be very disappointed. There is no legislation even in the planning stages. All there is at hand is a promissory note in the form of yet more executive actions to inspire big pharma in "reducing patient out-of-pocket spending", "creating incentives to lower list prices", "increasing competition" and "better negotiation" according to Health & Human Services.
~~ Trump pleases insurers, angers Democrats with drug-pricing plan ~~

Of course, Trump left out of his 'talk' today that Bush's Medicare Part D Pharma give away forbids price negotiations making all of his promises moot on that huge part of the equation since there is no plan for any legislation for the proposed negotiation process let alone ability to negotiate prices. He went so far as to claim (read that as bluster and lie), "...Trump said his proposal would give Medicare "new tools to negotiate lower prices".... ~ibid~

Snake Oil for your ills anyone????

 

[kiwiman127]

I’ll believe it when I see it


Why doesn’t Trump force the drug companies to negotiate prices like other countries do?

Seems mostly rhetoric

Trumps plan will not make the US's Pharma price environment cheaper than the rest of the world. Anyone, who thinks that we'll have the best prices in the world, you are in for a big disappointment. Negotiating prices is the absolute way to keep prices down.

Every country in the world, negotiates the healthcare costs, including pharmaceutical.
The only developed counties who are not negotiating pharma drug prices is Turkey and the US. The US has by far, the highest Pharmaceutical prices in the world, it's not close.
And, aren't all those pharma companies already. competing with each other? What is so evolutionary about Trump's plan?
.

 

[Issa]

What about the best health plan? Best budget ? Lower the debt? Oh and the wall?
Did he even pay stormy?

 

[Papageorgio]

I get my drugs for free already, it can't get any cheaper.

The meth lab seems to be working out well for you.

 

[cnm]

The 44-page blueprint, called “American Patients First,” proposes a laundry list of policy ideas — but no specific timeline for implementation.

It also excludes an idea that Trump has championed in the past and that was most feared by the industry: allowing the government to negotiate drug prices on behalf of the Medicare program. [...]

Trump’s speech Friday embraced some ideas that the powerful pharmaceutical lobby has been seeding and spreading. Over the past year, drug companies have sought to deflect criticism of their prices by blaming a secretive tier of middleman industries, such as pharmacy benefit managers that negotiate drug prices, for the role they play in prices.

“Obviously, very, very positive to pharma. Essentially, we are not seeing anything about that speech which should concern investors,” Ronny Gal, an analyst at Sanford C. Bernstein, said in a video message to investors.

The pharmaceutical industry would also benefit from one part of the plan: to force other wealthy countries to pay more for drugs
Trump promises to ‘derail the gravy train’ and lower drug prices in ‘American Patients First’ plan​

 

[Care4all]

I’ll believe it when I see it


Why doesn’t Trump force the drug companies to negotiate prices like other countries do?

Seems mostly rhetoric

I didn't read the article because you have to be a subscriber. However I've had this discussion with my cousin who is a retired research doctor and yes, very liberal.

Much of the cost of drugs are because of government, so it would seem sensible to look at government to lower the cost.

My cousin sent me an article years ago from a drug manufacturers prospective. It takes anywhere from three to ten years of testing and government paperwork to get a new drug to the market. Then it has to get FDA approval. This costs hundreds of millions of dollars.

So what happens after all these years of money spending and the FDA doesn't approve of the drug for market? They transfer those losses to their other products and those existing prescriptions go up in price.

So government is the first step into lowering drug costs.

Gov't pays for a good deal of the R&D......

They take tax deductions on remaining R and D costs.

USA is the only Nation prevented by law, from negotiating bulk discounts for drug price....thanks to republicans......

 

[Norman]

I get my drugs for free already, it can't get any cheaper.

Once you graduate from mama's basement you will be pissed then?

Good thing mama will tell you to vote for Donald J. Trump. She's pleased there is a real winner in charge.

 

[Jantje_Smit]

Trump promises to ‘derail the gravy train’ and lower drug prices in ‘American Patients First’ plan

They key word is in the title, Trump promises....

The orange saviour also promised a beautiful wall, to drain the swamp and lock Hillary up....

 

[Lumpy 1]

I’ll believe it when I see it


Why doesn’t Trump force the drug companies to negotiate prices like other countries do?

Seems mostly rhetoric

I didn't read the article because you have to be a subscriber. However I've had this discussion with my cousin who is a retired research doctor and yes, very liberal.

Much of the cost of drugs are because of government, so it would seem sensible to look at government to lower the cost.

My cousin sent me an article years ago from a drug manufacturers prospective. It takes anywhere from three to ten years of testing and government paperwork to get a new drug to the market. Then it has to get FDA approval. This costs hundreds of millions of dollars.

So what happens after all these years of money spending and the FDA doesn't approve of the drug for market? They transfer those losses to their other products and those existing prescriptions go up in price.

So government is the first step into lowering drug costs.

Gov't pays for a good deal of the R&D......

They take tax deductions on remaining R and D costs.

USA is the only Nation prevented by law, from negotiating bulk discounts for drug price....thanks to republicans......

"thanks to republicans" .. how so?

..

 

[LoneLaugher]

I’ll believe it when I see it


Why doesn’t Trump force the drug companies to negotiate prices like other countries do?

Seems mostly rhetoric

I think I heard Trump say he may do just that in the campaign.

No. You heard him say that he WILL do that while campaigning. Over and over again.

He's abandoned that idea.

You were duped. Imagine that.

 

[Billo_Really]

They hate anything aimed at benefiting REAL Americans.
This dude is such a badass...he’s always looking to piss the Left off...haha
I wonder how many good, REAL Americans are offended by ‘American Patients First’?
Trump promises to ‘derail the gravy train’ and lower drug prices in ‘American Patients First’ plan

Here's your link...




In answer to your question, no, I'm not pissed. This was just an empty promise Trump made. Another Trump lie.

Here's an article you can read...

Trump Said Drug Companies 'Get Away With Murder'—But He Won't Fulfill His Promise to Control Prices
He promised to take on the big pharmaceuticals companies, but he's not following through.

As the New York Times reported Thursday night, the Trump administration is preparing to announce new plans to address rising drug costs — but allowing Medicare to negotiate prices will not be a part of the agenda. One official dismissed the idea in a phone call with journalists as an idea that "Democrats have called for."
​

Once again, the Boy's in the Swamp made Trump voters look like dumbasses.