Trump Vow: I'll Run From Prison If Convicted

[Rigby5]

Start with the Trump Bedminster tape, it's been all over the airwaves, and social media so you're bound to have heard it.
Then take the actual warplan document Trump was waiving around, was part of those documents recovered by the national archives and in Jack Smiths possession.

So i'm mentioning them. Since posession and showing people those plans are both illegal.

Wrong.
There is nothing illegal about Trump bragging or even claiming anything about what he waves around.
And it is a lie to claim anything was "recovered" nor does Jack Smith have any authority to even read any classified docs, much less "possess" them.

Possession by Smith is illegal, possession and showing by Trump is totally and completely legal.

 

[Lakhota]

Trump is like a cancer that has metastasized. I don't forget a cure as long as he's alive - maybe not even then.

 

[Rigby5]

Rigby5
Quick question
If it was ok for trump to take classified documents then it was ok for Obama and Biden can also do it, yes?

Of course it is legal for all presidents to have all the copies of classified docs they want.
The problem is Biden, Pence, and Hillary did it illegal when they were not presidents.

 

[Hellbilly]

So you do not care if this forces a shooting war in the US, even though it could easily be prevented?

Do you care?

 

[Hellbilly]

Of course it is legal for all presidents to have all the copies of classified docs they want.
The problem is Biden, Pence, and Hillary did it illegal when they were not presidents.

Glad Obama is in the clear

 

[Rigby5]

Trump is like a cancer that has metastasized. I don't forget a cure as long as he's alive - maybe not even then.

That is immoral because you are denigrating the political views of about half the country.
You do not have the ethical authority to denigrate the political views held by others.
Especially since you likely do not know much about them.
I did agree with most of Trump's values and ideas, but they are still to be protected.

 

[rightwinger]

Wrong.
There is zero evidence and zero legitimate charges.
These are not normal juries, but isolated grand juries who are notorious for indicting ham sandwiches.
There are no cases at all.
Mention any piece of evidence in any case.
It is all obviously bogus.

MAGA

 

[Hellbilly]

That is immoral because you are denigrating the political views of about half the country.

You do the same thing

 

[Rigby5]

Do you care?

Yes.
I prefer we not start a civil war in this country.
And that is easy to do.
All we have to do is stop trying to illegally prosecute Trump on things that can not possibly be illegal.
Like the Jean Carroll case, where Trump was obviously innocent.
How do you convict the man when the woman offers to model lingerie in a private dressing room?

 

[Rigby5]

MAGA

What does that supposed to mean?

 

[rightwinger]

What does that supposed to mean?

It means you are on the MAGA Crazy Train

 

[Hellbilly]

I prefer we not start a civil war in this country.

Why are you stocking up on ammo?

 

[meaner gene]

Wrong.
The Stormy Daniels hush money obviously was NOT profit, was helpful to the campaign, and was an investment intended to increase his return in salary after the election.
So then clearly any claim of tax fraud is a lie.

You just admitted Trump committed at least two crimes just from your post.
If it was helpful to the campaign, that money becomes a contribution in kind to the campaign, and has to be reported to the FEC, and it wasn't (crime one)
And it wasn't an investment, it was an illegal tax deduction under "legal fees" (crime two)

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Any sentient human being with an ounce of sense would be afraid of the prospect that Trump would ever again come to power . It would be the end of our country as we know it, especially if he has a complicit congress and court. He told you what he would do. Look up his agenda for 2025. If you really want that you are either very stupid, or you hate America

Yes yes YES. The end of democrats and their transformation of the country.

 

[meaner gene]

Wrong.
The Stormy Daniels hush money obviously was NOT profit, was helpful to the campaign, and was an investment intended to increase his return in salary after the election.
So then clearly any claim of tax fraud is a lie.

You just admitted Trump committed at least two crimes just from your post.
If it was helpful to the campaign, that money becomes a contribution in kind to the campaign, and has to be reported to the FEC, and it wasn't (crime one)
And it wasn't an investment, it was an illegal tax deduction under "legal fees" (crime two)

 

[Dadoalex]

Former President Donald Trump on Friday promised that if he is convicted of a crime and sentenced to prison, he will continue to run for president.

John Fredericks, the host of a pro-Trump talk show, asked the 2024 candidate whether a conviction resulting in a prison sentence would “stop” his bid for a second term.

“Not at all. There’s nothing in the Constitution to say that it could,” Trump replied. “Even the radical left crazies are saying, ‘No, that wouldn’t stop!’ And it wouldn’t stop me either.”

Legally speaking, Trump is correct. The most famous example of an incarcerated person running for president is Socialist Party nominee Eugene V. Debs. Debs received nearly 1 million votes in 1920 while he was imprisoned for his opposition to World War I.

It is unclear what would happen if Trump won while incarcerated, however, since there is no precedent for that occurring in a major federal election. Some scholars have suggested that he could pardon himself immediately upon taking office.

More at the link below...

Trump Vows To Run For President From Prison If Convicted

“There's nothing in the Constitution" to bar his campaign from proceeding, Trump noted.

www.huffpost.com

Wow, wouldn't that be something - a convicted criminal running for president. I can't imagine what the rest of the world must think of us. I think that Trump must know that he will be convicted. The founding fathers never anticipated a Donald Trump. What do you think?

I'll be honest.
When I first saw the thread title I thought Trump had threatened to take it on the lam if convicted.
Gotta love the English language.

 

[Hellbilly]

I'll be honest.
When I first saw the thread title I thought Trump had threatened to take it on the lam if convicted.
Gotta love the English language.

Same!
Then I tried to picture him actually running

 

[Dragonlady]

I had some hopes for her originally, as she was a successful and realistic prosecutor. But she has disappointed. She has negative charisma or smarts when dealing with those who have doubts about the Democratic program. She comes across as incredibly shallow and self-absorbed, and living in a liberal fantasy world. She seems to cackle at her own jokes. I think she would lose Democrats millions of votes unnecessarily, especially in “swing states.”

Your entire post comes across as incredibly shallow and self-absorbed. Not a single word about her abilities, or accomplishments, just vague, shallow, personal criticisms of her charisma, or lack thereof.

What exactly has she done thaT has so disappointed you other than being black and a woman?

That makes zero sense.
All one term presidents ALWAYS run again.
By having been president, and proving they can do a reasonable job (like starting no wars), Trump is about the best candidate out there.
I am far left democrat, but Joe Biden has proved he is totally incapable of being a good president because he:
1. Started an illegal war in the Ukraine that could destroy the whole world, for no reason.
2. Illegally extorted the Ukraine to illegally fire Shokin. in order to protect Hunter kick backs.

No one term president who lost the White House when he ran for reelection, has ever come back and tried to run again a third time.

Donald Trump just refuses to accept the fact that the American people don’t want him his president and he keeps trying to inflict himself into American politics. He’s also trying to use his candidate status as an excuse to keep himself out of jail, and to continue to raise funds off his gullible cult.

The only way that a one term president who failed to win the popular vote, can hope to win reelection, is to expand his voting base with policies that people will support. Trump failed to do any of that. His extremist policies drove away independent and moderate Republican voters.

Even with a compliant right wing media, backing up every one of his lies about Covid and the economy, you can only fool some of the people all of the time, and Trump can’t fool enough people to regain the White House

 

[Soupnazi630]

It will always be illegal for the Ukraine to try to join NATO.
It not only violates treaties with Gorbachev, but the basic principle of the Cuban Missile Crisis.

Nor do the ethnic Polish in western Ukraine have the authority to illegally disenfranchise the native ethnic Russian Ukrainians of the east.

One more time

It is not and never has been illegal. There was never any such fucking treaty

 

[Dragonlady]

Same!
Then I tried to picture him actually running

Where would he go? What country would want to take him in and become a pariah to the entire western democratic world?