Trump won over 3,000 counties

It reflects the will of the voters on the state level. You need to remember that the federal government did not create the states, rather the states created the federal government.

Big deal. The voters are the people. Hillary got more than 2 million more votes from the people. Yes, Trump won on a technicality, but it was only a technicality. The majority of the voters don't support him.

Yes, Trump won on a technicality, but it was only a technicality.

That 'technicality' has decided elections for a couple of centuries

The majority of the voters don't support him.

The majority of the country does


Nope. More than 2 million more voters said the county chose Hillary. Trump weaseled a win, but it doesn't reflect the will of the country.
If the country had chosen Hillary, she would have the Electoral votes to show for it.

Why do you want two or three states to decide the presidency?

1 California 39,497,345

3 Florida 20,636,975

4 New York 19,842,724


5 Illinois 12,837,801

Win those 4 states, you have the popular vote locked up, the other 46 get fucked
Well no. The electoral college doesn't reflect the popular vote. I acknowledge that is how our system works. but it still doesn't reflect the will of the voters. If it did, more votes, which Hillary received, would select the president.

The electoral college doesn't reflect the popular vote.
To the contrary, it does, per state

I acknowledge that is how our system works. but it still doesn't reflect the will of the voters.
You really do need a refresher course in civics.
 
Big deal. The voters are the people. Hillary got more than 2 million more votes from the people. Yes, Trump won on a technicality, but it was only a technicality. The majority of the voters don't support him.

Yes, Trump won on a technicality, but it was only a technicality.

That 'technicality' has decided elections for a couple of centuries

The majority of the voters don't support him.

The majority of the country does


Nope. More than 2 million more voters said the county chose Hillary. Trump weaseled a win, but it doesn't reflect the will of the country.
If the country had chosen Hillary, she would have the Electoral votes to show for it.

Why do you want two or three states to decide the presidency?

1 California 39,497,345

3 Florida 20,636,975

4 New York 19,842,724


5 Illinois 12,837,801

Win those 4 states, you have the popular vote locked up, the other 46 get fucked
Well no. The electoral college doesn't reflect the popular vote. I acknowledge that is how our system works. but it still doesn't reflect the will of the voters. If it did, more votes, which Hillary received, would select the president.

The electoral college doesn't reflect the popular vote.
To the contrary, it does, per state

I acknowledge that is how our system works. but it still doesn't reflect the will of the voters.
You really do need a refresher course in civics.

So more votes don't determine the winner. Hard to say that effects the will of the majority of voters.
 
twist it, spin it, doesn't matter.

Electoral votes win the presidency, not the popular votes
You are absolutely right. Even if that doesn't reflect the will of the voters.

It reflects the will of the country, not a couple of states

Does it? How's that?

The will of the country isn't the will of the states. It isn't the will of the people. It's the will of something someone decided to make up hundreds of years ago.


So, you're fine with 4 states deciding the presidency?
 
twist it, spin it, doesn't matter.

Electoral votes win the presidency, not the popular votes
You are absolutely right. Even if that doesn't reflect the will of the voters.

It reflects the will of the country, not a couple of states

Does it? How's that?

The will of the country isn't the will of the states. It isn't the will of the people. It's the will of something someone decided to make up hundreds of years ago.


So, you're fine with 4 states deciding the presidency?


I'm not good with a smaller number of voters appointing that orange clown as president, when there are more votes against him.
 
That 'technicality' has decided elections for a couple of centuries

The majority of the country does


Nope. More than 2 million more voters said the county chose Hillary. Trump weaseled a win, but it doesn't reflect the will of the country.
If the country had chosen Hillary, she would have the Electoral votes to show for it.

Why do you want two or three states to decide the presidency?

1 California 39,497,345

3 Florida 20,636,975

4 New York 19,842,724


5 Illinois 12,837,801

Win those 4 states, you have the popular vote locked up, the other 46 get fucked
Well no. The electoral college doesn't reflect the popular vote. I acknowledge that is how our system works. but it still doesn't reflect the will of the voters. If it did, more votes, which Hillary received, would select the president.

The electoral college doesn't reflect the popular vote.
To the contrary, it does, per state

I acknowledge that is how our system works. but it still doesn't reflect the will of the voters.
You really do need a refresher course in civics.

So more votes don't determine the winner. Hard to say that effects the will of the majority of voters.

So more votes don't determine the winner.

they do, per state.

and they get electoral votes for having the most votes

then all the electoral votes are counted, and the person with the most become president.
Haven't they covered this at your grade level?
 
twist it, spin it, doesn't matter.

Electoral votes win the presidency, not the popular votes
You are absolutely right. Even if that doesn't reflect the will of the voters.

It reflects the will of the country, not a couple of states

Does it? How's that?

The will of the country isn't the will of the states. It isn't the will of the people. It's the will of something someone decided to make up hundreds of years ago.


So, you're fine with 4 states deciding the presidency?


I'm not good with a smaller number of voters appointing that orange clown as president, when there are more votes against him.

Then get the Electoral College removed,

Little hint for ya,

It'll never happen.
 
Q: How many times was a president elected who did not win the popular vote?

A: It has happened four times.

Last time it was Bush.

Presidents Winning Without Popular Vote
And Bush wrecked the country.


What does that have to do with it. Sheesh. Stop trying to hijack, please.
You brought up Bush the minority president, Kat, and I correctly pointed out he wrecked the country.


But, we weren't discussing how the country was run. We were discussing the Electoral, and Popular vote. :dunno:
Sorry your slomo does not get it. A minority president, selected as has been Trump, wrecked the country. The link is obvious and so is your denial.



Yours doesn't get it either, and is oh so obvious. So I guess we are even. ;)
 
Nope. More than 2 million more voters said the county chose Hillary. Trump weaseled a win, but it doesn't reflect the will of the country.
If the country had chosen Hillary, she would have the Electoral votes to show for it.

Why do you want two or three states to decide the presidency?

1 California 39,497,345

3 Florida 20,636,975

4 New York 19,842,724


5 Illinois 12,837,801

Win those 4 states, you have the popular vote locked up, the other 46 get fucked
Well no. The electoral college doesn't reflect the popular vote. I acknowledge that is how our system works. but it still doesn't reflect the will of the voters. If it did, more votes, which Hillary received, would select the president.

The electoral college doesn't reflect the popular vote.
To the contrary, it does, per state

I acknowledge that is how our system works. but it still doesn't reflect the will of the voters.
You really do need a refresher course in civics.

So more votes don't determine the winner. Hard to say that effects the will of the majority of voters.

So more votes don't determine the winner.

they do, per state.

and they get electoral votes for having the most votes

then all the electoral votes are counted, and the person with the most become president.
Haven't they covered this at your grade level?
As I said before, I know how the electoral college works. That doesn't mean it represents the will of the voters. An actual count of the votes tells us that.
 
If the country had chosen Hillary, she would have the Electoral votes to show for it.

Why do you want two or three states to decide the presidency?

1 California 39,497,345

3 Florida 20,636,975

4 New York 19,842,724


5 Illinois 12,837,801

Win those 4 states, you have the popular vote locked up, the other 46 get fucked
Well no. The electoral college doesn't reflect the popular vote. I acknowledge that is how our system works. but it still doesn't reflect the will of the voters. If it did, more votes, which Hillary received, would select the president.

The electoral college doesn't reflect the popular vote.
To the contrary, it does, per state

I acknowledge that is how our system works. but it still doesn't reflect the will of the voters.
You really do need a refresher course in civics.

So more votes don't determine the winner. Hard to say that effects the will of the majority of voters.

So more votes don't determine the winner.

they do, per state.

and they get electoral votes for having the most votes

then all the electoral votes are counted, and the person with the most become president.
Haven't they covered this at your grade level?
As I said before, I know how the electoral college works. That doesn't mean it represents the will of the voters. An actual count of the votes tells us that.

Then you don't know how the Electoral college works.
 
twist it, spin it, doesn't matter.

Electoral votes win the presidency, not the popular votes
You are absolutely right. Even if that doesn't reflect the will of the voters.

It reflects the will of the country, not a couple of states

Does it? How's that?

The will of the country isn't the will of the states. It isn't the will of the people. It's the will of something someone decided to make up hundreds of years ago.


So, you're fine with 4 states deciding the presidency?

No, I'm not. I've been calling for a change in the system for a long time now. I'd like to see Proportional Representation in at the very least the House with a run off system for the Presidency. Even better would be the Senate having some kind of PR too.
 
Well no. The electoral college doesn't reflect the popular vote. I acknowledge that is how our system works. but it still doesn't reflect the will of the voters. If it did, more votes, which Hillary received, would select the president.

The electoral college doesn't reflect the popular vote.
To the contrary, it does, per state

I acknowledge that is how our system works. but it still doesn't reflect the will of the voters.
You really do need a refresher course in civics.

So more votes don't determine the winner. Hard to say that effects the will of the majority of voters.

So more votes don't determine the winner.

they do, per state.

and they get electoral votes for having the most votes

then all the electoral votes are counted, and the person with the most become president.
Haven't they covered this at your grade level?
As I said before, I know how the electoral college works. That doesn't mean it represents the will of the voters. An actual count of the votes tells us that.

Then you don't know how the Electoral college works.
Again. I know Trump won, and why he won.. His election doesn't represent the will of the majority of the voters. The vote count reflects that.
 
To the contrary, it does, per state

You really do need a refresher course in civics.

So more votes don't determine the winner. Hard to say that effects the will of the majority of voters.

So more votes don't determine the winner.

they do, per state.

and they get electoral votes for having the most votes

then all the electoral votes are counted, and the person with the most become president.
Haven't they covered this at your grade level?
As I said before, I know how the electoral college works. That doesn't mean it represents the will of the voters. An actual count of the votes tells us that.

Then you don't know how the Electoral college works.
Again. I know Trump won, and why he won.. His election doesn't represent the will of the majority of the voters. The vote count reflects that.
His election doesn't represent the will of the majority of the voters.
No, it represents the will of the majority of the states

The vote count reflects that.

only in state
 
You are absolutely right. Even if that doesn't reflect the will of the voters.

It reflects the will of the country, not a couple of states

Does it? How's that?

The will of the country isn't the will of the states. It isn't the will of the people. It's the will of something someone decided to make up hundreds of years ago.


So, you're fine with 4 states deciding the presidency?


I'm not good with a smaller number of voters appointing that orange clown as president, when there are more votes against him.

Then get the Electoral College removed,

Little hint for ya,

It'll never happen.

No it won't, why? Because too many people benefit from it to want to see it disappear, and in order to make it disappear you need the approval of those who benefit from it.
 
twist it, spin it, doesn't matter.

Electoral votes win the presidency, not the popular votes
You are absolutely right. Even if that doesn't reflect the will of the voters.

It reflects the will of the country, not a couple of states

Still doesn't reflect the will of the people. Hillary got more than 2 million votes more votes than that orange clown.

Take away the millions of anchor baby votes Hillary got and Trump easily won the popular vote of TRUE Americans. There I obliterated your stupid talking point. Trump won and will be the president, suck it.
 
twist it, spin it, doesn't matter.

Electoral votes win the presidency, not the popular votes
You are absolutely right. Even if that doesn't reflect the will of the voters.

It reflects the will of the country, not a couple of states

Still doesn't reflect the will of the people. Hillary got more than 2 million votes more votes than that orange clown.

Take away the millions of anchor baby votes Hillary got and Trump easily won the popular vote of TRUE Americans.

Prove it.
 
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twist it, spin it, doesn't matter.

Electoral votes win the presidency, not the popular votes
You are absolutely right. Even if that doesn't reflect the will of the voters.

It reflects the will of the country, not a couple of states

Still doesn't reflect the will of the people. Hillary got more than 2 million votes more votes than that orange clown.

Take away the millions of anchor baby votes Hillary got and Trump easily won the popular vote of TRUE Americans. There I obliterated your stupid talking point. Trump won and will be the president, suck it.

Despite that being nonsense, the right of anchor babies to vote is how our system works. You know, like the electoral college.
 
twist it, spin it, doesn't matter.

Electoral votes win the presidency, not the popular votes
You are absolutely right. Even if that doesn't reflect the will of the voters.

It reflects the will of the country, not a couple of states

Still doesn't reflect the will of the people. Hillary got more than 2 million votes more votes than that orange clown.

Take away the millions of anchor baby votes Hillary got and Trump easily won the popular vote of TRUE Americans. There I obliterated your stupid talking point. Trump won and will be the president, suck it.

No you didn't. You repeated what that orange clown said. Big deal.
 

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