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Today Progressives have set a new high level of desperation and panic. Not only is President Donald Trump succeeding beyond all expectations with our economy, but he is also doing so with his foreign policy decisions.
Right now? He's wagging the dog....
LOL re the economy....RATFLMAO!!! Speaking of dogs. All he has done is kick the can further down the road. He is to fiscal responsibility what a fox is to a hen house...
His foreign policy decisions, like him, suck.
Obama left no mess in Iran. He left a multi-national peace treaty and Trump tore it up. Make no mistake. The rest of the world blames Donald Trump for this.
Typical, you've got nothing but desperation in the wake of his great performance across the board!
What wag the dog? The Democrats misguided efforts to impeach President Trump is not unlike a dog catching the car it has been chasing. Now that the Democrats have caught the Impeachment, they obviously don't know what to do!
Coyote, you seem to have not read a lot of posts here; some people here have literally called Soleimani a patriarch of peace, and the Iranians no threat to us at all simply defending themselves from the incessant bullying of the USA and all this a manufactured staged event either by Trump to wag the dog or just because our generals have a hard-on to use Iran to test their new missiles and latest toys.You seem to confuse criticizing Trump with defending Iran. No one is defending Iran.Some scared Iranian kid at some anti aircraft battery with and itchy trigger finger in fear of his impending doom shot down that Ukrainian Airliner, Guaranteed.You could be right. The Iranians sure are being tight-lipped about it holding onto the black box.I believe one took down a Jet Liner with 186 people on it. ooops.22 or 23, with 17 fired at the main base near the center of Iraq. The others went up north to another base.
If that weren't true, Iran would RUN to the chance to share The Black Box with The World, but they are hiding it, probably trying to hack the damn thing knowing them.
They sound like US Demwits trying to figure out how they can lie and spin and twist the facts in order to make them serve their purpose.
No wonder the media defends Iran. They are just like US Leftists.
You seem to confuse criticizing Trump with defending Iran. No one is defending Iran.Some scared Iranian kid at some anti aircraft battery with and itchy trigger finger in fear of his impending doom shot down that Ukrainian Airliner, Guaranteed.You could be right. The Iranians sure are being tight-lipped about it holding onto the black box.I believe one took down a Jet Liner with 186 people on it. ooops.
If that weren't true, Iran would RUN to the chance to share The Black Box with The World, but they are hiding it, probably trying to hack the damn thing knowing them.
They sound like US Demwits trying to figure out how they can lie and spin and twist the facts in order to make them serve their purpose.
No wonder the media defends Iran. They are just like US Leftists.
Anyone who criticizes Trump while he is up to his elbows in enemies is an enemy.
Anyone who criticizes America while the enemies are trying to overturn our government is an enemy.
I'm not confused.
Anyone who posts like an enemy should be prepared to be treated like an enemy.
Obama was a cult.Beginning to sound like Stalin dude. Trump is a cult.You seem to confuse criticizing Trump with defending Iran. No one is defending Iran.Some scared Iranian kid at some anti aircraft battery with and itchy trigger finger in fear of his impending doom shot down that Ukrainian Airliner, Guaranteed.You could be right. The Iranians sure are being tight-lipped about it holding onto the black box.
If that weren't true, Iran would RUN to the chance to share The Black Box with The World, but they are hiding it, probably trying to hack the damn thing knowing them.
They sound like US Demwits trying to figure out how they can lie and spin and twist the facts in order to make them serve their purpose.
No wonder the media defends Iran. They are just like US Leftists.
Anyone who criticizes Trump while he is up to his elbows in enemies is an enemy.
Anyone who criticizes America while the enemies are trying to overturn our government is an enemy.
I'm not confused.
Anyone who posts like an enemy should be prepared to be treated like an enemy.
What policy was that? When he called them a JV team and let them run amok for two years until they had killed untold thousands, destroyed untold billions worth of property and historic artifacts, caused millions to flee into Turkey and Europe raping and killing thousands of women and others as they stormed Iraq and Syria like the sea crashing in to fill the void Obama left until he could ignore it no longer? Then bent over backwards to get the Iranians to agree to delay their nuclear development for a few short years with little or no monitoring in exchange for lifting sanctions that got them out of the dumper on top of a hefty present of billions of dollars?Hmmm...so when you lot criticized Obama for his policies in Syria to combat ISIS you were actually defending ISIS....glad that has been clarifiedsure seems like it. that's why he said that.You seem to confuse criticizing Trump with defending Iran. No one is defending Iran.Some scared Iranian kid at some anti aircraft battery with and itchy trigger finger in fear of his impending doom shot down that Ukrainian Airliner, Guaranteed.You could be right. The Iranians sure are being tight-lipped about it holding onto the black box.
If that weren't true, Iran would RUN to the chance to share The Black Box with The World, but they are hiding it, probably trying to hack the damn thing knowing them.
They sound like US Demwits trying to figure out how they can lie and spin and twist the facts in order to make them serve their purpose.
No wonder the media defends Iran. They are just like US Leftists.
Quit being a bitch. You know damn well that he's very busy. Otherwise he would be making tweets to trigger you jackass party of slavery, racism and Jim Crow supporters.ohferchrissakesFunny but not really. compared to the previous president who considered punctuality to be..... ummmm... I don't think the Kenyan ever learned that word.
Are you a broken record, or what? I've moved on from 2016, guy. Maybe you should, too.
I have never heard Coyote "trash" America. She has a different view from the predominantly conservative one on this board. She is doing EXACTLY what we have always defended, and that includes criticizing the President and his administration when it makes big blunders or gets caught with its hand in the cookie jar.You seem to confuse criticizing Trump with defending Iran. No one is defending Iran.Some scared Iranian kid at some anti aircraft battery with and itchy trigger finger in fear of his impending doom shot down that Ukrainian Airliner, Guaranteed.You could be right. The Iranians sure are being tight-lipped about it holding onto the black box.
If that weren't true, Iran would RUN to the chance to share The Black Box with The World, but they are hiding it, probably trying to hack the damn thing knowing them.
They sound like US Demwits trying to figure out how they can lie and spin and twist the facts in order to make them serve their purpose.
No wonder the media defends Iran. They are just like US Leftists.
Anyone who criticizes Trump while he is up to his elbows in enemies is an enemy.
Anyone who criticizes America while the enemies are trying to overturn our government is an enemy.
I'm not confused.
Anyone who posts like an enemy should be prepared to be treated like an enemy.
Well . . . . let's just say this:
If many of the people here posted the way they do against their government in countries like Iran, Saudi Arabia, Russia, China, etc., and even in the UK and Canada as they do here against the USA, they'd be taken away and never seen again or at least be in a lot of hot water thanks to the liberties afforded them by the fighting men and women of our country who give their blood and sweat every day fighting to defend our freedoms and way of life so that they can sit here and trash America.
Iran purposely avoided hitting personnel...their rockets landed in a field...Trump would be wise to step back here and apply maximum pressure on Iran behind the scenes and recruit other nations to stand behind us.....however if Iran refuses to stand down we should go all in and remove their leaders from the face of the earth....
Your Burka is on sale.AP FACT CHECK: Trump minimizes IS risk, distorts Iran payout
AP FACT CHECK: Trump minimizes IS risk, distorts Iran payout
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"Crucially, the United States halted a delivery of fighter jets that Iran’s pre-revolution government had already paid $400 million for. Normally the US would have returned the money if it wasn’t going to deliver the planes, since countries don’t just break formal agreements like that. But the US government had already frozen Iranian assets in the United States as punishment for the hostage-taking — and that included the $400 million.
The hostage crisis was eventually resolved in 1981, at a conference in Algiers. But the Algiers Accords didn’t resolve every outstanding issue — including the legal status of the $400 million.
Instead, the accord set up an international court, based in the Hague, to deal with any legal claims that the governments of Iran and the United States had against each other, or that individual citizens of either country had against the other country.
This court, called the Iran–United States Claims Tribunal, functioned as a kind of binding arbitration. To deal with cases, the involved parties could either negotiate a settlement out of court or take it to a panel made up of three US-appointed judges, three Iranian-appointed judges, and three neutral judges. The panel would then hear the case and issue a binding ruling.
This process, as you might guess, was very, very slow. By the time Obama’s second term in office began, the tribunal still had not come to a ruling on the issue of the $400 million. Sometime afterward, the Associated Press’s Matt Lee and Bradley Klapper report, the US government apparently concluded that it was going to lose the case — and lose big: Iran was seeking $10 billion in today’s dollars.
"US officials had expected a ruling on the Iranian claim from the tribunal any time, and feared a ruling that would have made the interest payments much higher," Lee and Klapper write.
So the Obama administration decided to settle out of court, opening up negotiations with Iran on the terms of the settlement. It did this at the same time it was negotiating the nuclear deal and the return of four US citizens who had been detained by Iran more recently.
However, the people working on the nuclear deal and the prisoner release were different from the team working on the court case around the weapons money — some of the latter group had been involved with the claims tribunal for years.
By January 2016, the countries had struck a deal — the US would pay Iran $1.7 billion, which amounts to about $300 million in interest on top of the originally frozen assets (accounting for inflation).
This settlement was announced the same day in January as Iran received its first round of sanctions relief from the Iran deal."
The US paid Iran $1.3 billion in secret. It’s not a scandal.
why do you feel the need to defend her then?I have never heard Coyote "trash" America. She has a different view from the predominantly conservative one on this board. She is doing EXACTLY what we have always defended, and that includes criticizing the President and his administration when it makes big blunders or gets caught with its hand in the cookie jar.You seem to confuse criticizing Trump with defending Iran. No one is defending Iran.Some scared Iranian kid at some anti aircraft battery with and itchy trigger finger in fear of his impending doom shot down that Ukrainian Airliner, Guaranteed.
If that weren't true, Iran would RUN to the chance to share The Black Box with The World, but they are hiding it, probably trying to hack the damn thing knowing them.
They sound like US Demwits trying to figure out how they can lie and spin and twist the facts in order to make them serve their purpose.
No wonder the media defends Iran. They are just like US Leftists.
Anyone who criticizes Trump while he is up to his elbows in enemies is an enemy.
Anyone who criticizes America while the enemies are trying to overturn our government is an enemy.
I'm not confused.
Anyone who posts like an enemy should be prepared to be treated like an enemy.
Well . . . . let's just say this:
If many of the people here posted the way they do against their government in countries like Iran, Saudi Arabia, Russia, China, etc., and even in the UK and Canada as they do here against the USA, they'd be taken away and never seen again or at least be in a lot of hot water thanks to the liberties afforded them by the fighting men and women of our country who give their blood and sweat every day fighting to defend our freedoms and way of life so that they can sit here and trash America.
I get very tired of the heavy handedness here. No one here is obligated to agree with you. It certainly doesn't give you a right to infer they love their country less than you.
why did obammmy do it then? I find it dishonest that you ignore that.Advocating genocide and forceably separating children from their parents is not an American value nor is it fighting evil.Nothing Wrong with a Cult, if it's a CULT of AMERICAN CULTURE.Beginning to sound like Stalin dude. Trump is a cult.You seem to confuse criticizing Trump with defending Iran. No one is defending Iran.They sound like US Demwits trying to figure out how they can lie and spin and twist the facts in order to make them serve their purpose.
No wonder the media defends Iran. They are just like US Leftists.
Anyone who criticizes Trump while he is up to his elbows in enemies is an enemy.
Anyone who criticizes America while the enemies are trying to overturn our government is an enemy.
I'm not confused.
Anyone who posts like an enemy should be prepared to be treated like an enemy.
That's why we are blessed. We still love God, and still fight Evil.
Most of us anyway. But you don't, nope, you don't.
But dont worry, unlike you I am not going to grab guns and start shooting "undesirables"...I will vote.
so again the question is this, how many more americans dead was okay for you? Do you have his, 'the general' poster on your wall?it was a perfect imminent danger, and a perfect assassination, and a perfect retaliation and a perfect wag the dog.. !!!!
fed to perfect IDIOTS.
naw, they wanted to see the embassy get hit again and all the military resources killed. It must be what they mean, right? it can't be anything else. fking proof they hate americans.for once, let's support the troops by not getting them pointlessly killed, folks!
still standing up for terrorists I see. good for you!!! when is your next jihad?AP FACT CHECK: Trump minimizes IS risk, distorts Iran payout
AP FACT CHECK: Trump minimizes IS risk, distorts Iran payout
....................................................................................................................................
"Crucially, the United States halted a delivery of fighter jets that Iran’s pre-revolution government had already paid $400 million for. Normally the US would have returned the money if it wasn’t going to deliver the planes, since countries don’t just break formal agreements like that. But the US government had already frozen Iranian assets in the United States as punishment for the hostage-taking — and that included the $400 million.
The hostage crisis was eventually resolved in 1981, at a conference in Algiers. But the Algiers Accords didn’t resolve every outstanding issue — including the legal status of the $400 million.
Instead, the accord set up an international court, based in the Hague, to deal with any legal claims that the governments of Iran and the United States had against each other, or that individual citizens of either country had against the other country.
This court, called the Iran–United States Claims Tribunal, functioned as a kind of binding arbitration. To deal with cases, the involved parties could either negotiate a settlement out of court or take it to a panel made up of three US-appointed judges, three Iranian-appointed judges, and three neutral judges. The panel would then hear the case and issue a binding ruling.
This process, as you might guess, was very, very slow. By the time Obama’s second term in office began, the tribunal still had not come to a ruling on the issue of the $400 million. Sometime afterward, the Associated Press’s Matt Lee and Bradley Klapper report, the US government apparently concluded that it was going to lose the case — and lose big: Iran was seeking $10 billion in today’s dollars.
"US officials had expected a ruling on the Iranian claim from the tribunal any time, and feared a ruling that would have made the interest payments much higher," Lee and Klapper write.
So the Obama administration decided to settle out of court, opening up negotiations with Iran on the terms of the settlement. It did this at the same time it was negotiating the nuclear deal and the return of four US citizens who had been detained by Iran more recently.
However, the people working on the nuclear deal and the prisoner release were different from the team working on the court case around the weapons money — some of the latter group had been involved with the claims tribunal for years.
By January 2016, the countries had struck a deal — the US would pay Iran $1.7 billion, which amounts to about $300 million in interest on top of the originally frozen assets (accounting for inflation).
This settlement was announced the same day in January as Iran received its first round of sanctions relief from the Iran deal."
The US paid Iran $1.3 billion in secret. It’s not a scandal.
