Trump's promised Free Speech Executive Order

[RandomPoster]

I have read that President Trump is very concerned with the violence on American campuses and he is vowing to issue an Executive Order saying that colleges will have their federal funding withheld if they violate free speech on campus. This looks very promising.

Trump vows executive order requiring 'free speech' at colleges | Reuters

"If universities do not comply “it will be very costly,” he said. The U.S. government awards universities more than $30 billion annually in research funds."

 

[buckeye45_73]

I have read that President Trump is very concerned with the violence on American campuses and he is vowing to issue an Executive Order saying that colleges will have their federal funding withheld if they violate free speech on campus. This looks very promising.

Trump vows executive order requiring 'free speech' at colleges | Reuters

"If universities do not comply “it will be very costly,” he said. The U.S. government awards universities more than $30 billion annually in research funds."

Fuck yes, hit the left in their government subsidies......they'll squeal like pigs...again

 

[Rocko]

We’re really doing our college kids a disservice by not exposing them to different points of view.

 

[TemplarKormac]

We’re really doing our college kids a disservice by not exposing them to different points of view.

Valerie

What's wrong with exposing college students to all points of view as opposed to one?

Curious minds wish to know...

 

[Marion Morrison]

We’re really doing our college kids a disservice by not exposing them to different points of view.

Valerie

What's wrong with exposing college students to all points of view as opposed to one?

Curious minds wish to know...

Yeah, I'd like to know that, too.

 

[McRocket]

This is obviously to try and help conservative causes.

But I still think this is a good idea.

Colleges seem to be falling into WAY too much PC nonsense PLUS while trying to shut down ways of thinking they don't like.

Man, when I was in university, in Iowa, it was the opposite. People were encouraged - strongly - to say and think whatever they wished. The more different - the better. And PC was LOUDLY frowned upon.
Post secondary schools used to be a place for free thinking and free speech.

Sad that this seems to be fading.

 

[Valerie]

Conservatives have long appreciated that many social problems are complex and fluid — that the success of government initiatives is typically dependent upon local knowledge and local buy-in. Absent these, well-intentioned efforts tend to fail and often cause great harm in the process. As a consequence, conservatives consistently assert that one-size-fits-all and top-down approaches to social problems are unlikely to yield the intended results.


This same logic holds with regard to increasing ideological perspectives in higher education.


One cannot legislate an institutional culture that encourages viewpoint diversity — let alone an environment where diversity is effectively leveraged to improve research or teaching. This must be willingly and willfully enacted by faculty, students and administrators in their day-to-day interactions. Agents must be convinced, not compelled, to learn and grow from diverse perspectives.

Trump’s proposed executive order is counterproductive to this end.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...e9-9361-301ffb5bd5e6_story.html?noredirect=on



Put another way, universities can enforce rules that enhance conservatives’ abilities to speak on campus — but others may grow far less willing to listen. And there is little the White House, or Republican lawmakers, could plausibly do about that.


And of course, Republicans will not retain control of the White House forever. It is highly plausible that Trump’s tactic here would be turned against conservatives in a subsequent Democratic administration.




Consider: Many religious schools receive federal funding. Liberty University, for instance, gets nearly half a billion dollars per year. Yet Liberty University has also faced widespread criticism for its lack of viewpoint diversity and, at times, its outright censorship of those who contradict university president Jerry Falwell Jr.

 

[gallantwarrior]

I have read that President Trump is very concerned with the violence on American campuses and he is vowing to issue an Executive Order saying that colleges will have their federal funding withheld if they violate free speech on campus. This looks very promising.

Trump vows executive order requiring 'free speech' at colleges | Reuters

"If universities do not comply “it will be very costly,” he said. The U.S. government awards universities more than $30 billion annually in research funds."

Costly, as in no more federal funding?

 

[Marion Morrison]

Conservatives have long appreciated that many social problems are complex and fluid — that the success of government initiatives is typically dependent upon local knowledge and local buy-in. Absent these, well-intentioned efforts tend to fail and often cause great harm in the process. As a consequence, conservatives consistently assert that one-size-fits-all and top-down approaches to social problems are unlikely to yield the intended results.


This same logic holds with regard to increasing ideological perspectives in higher education.


One cannot legislate an institutional culture that encourages viewpoint diversity — let alone an environment where diversity is effectively leveraged to improve research or teaching. This must be willingly and willfully enacted by faculty, students and administrators in their day-to-day interactions. Agents must be convinced, not compelled, to learn and grow from diverse perspectives.

Trump’s proposed executive order is counterproductive to this end.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...e9-9361-301ffb5bd5e6_story.html?noredirect=on



Put another way, universities can enforce rules that enhance conservatives’ abilities to speak on campus — but others may grow far less willing to listen. And there is little the White House, or Republican lawmakers, could plausibly do about that.


And of course, Republicans will not retain control of the White House forever. It is highly plausible that Trump’s tactic here would be turned against conservatives in a subsequent Democratic administration.




Consider: Many religious schools receive federal funding. Liberty University, for instance, gets nearly half a billion dollars per year. Yet Liberty University has also faced widespread criticism for its lack of viewpoint diversity and, at times, its outright censorship of those who contradict university president Jerry Falwell Jr.

Stfu with that long-winded nonsense. They've been curtailing free thought and speech on college campuses lately. True story.

When I went to school, me and 1 black friend from the hood were able to speak up against the Humanities department's new policies. It wasn't right then, and it's ingrained as proper now, but it was different for the 210+ years that America and its college system was better.

 

[P F Tinmore]

I don't think he means free speech for everyone.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Conservatives have long appreciated that many social problems are complex and fluid — that the success of government initiatives is typically dependent upon local knowledge and local buy-in. Absent these, well-intentioned efforts tend to fail and often cause great harm in the process. As a consequence, conservatives consistently assert that one-size-fits-all and top-down approaches to social problems are unlikely to yield the intended results.


This same logic holds with regard to increasing ideological perspectives in higher education.


One cannot legislate an institutional culture that encourages viewpoint diversity — let alone an environment where diversity is effectively leveraged to improve research or teaching. This must be willingly and willfully enacted by faculty, students and administrators in their day-to-day interactions. Agents must be convinced, not compelled, to learn and grow from diverse perspectives.

Trump’s proposed executive order is counterproductive to this end.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...e9-9361-301ffb5bd5e6_story.html?noredirect=on



Put another way, universities can enforce rules that enhance conservatives’ abilities to speak on campus — but others may grow far less willing to listen. And there is little the White House, or Republican lawmakers, could plausibly do about that.


And of course, Republicans will not retain control of the White House forever. It is highly plausible that Trump’s tactic here would be turned against conservatives in a subsequent Democratic administration.




Consider: Many religious schools receive federal funding. Liberty University, for instance, gets nearly half a billion dollars per year. Yet Liberty University has also faced widespread criticism for its lack of viewpoint diversity and, at times, its outright censorship of those who contradict university president Jerry Falwell Jr.

Whatever Trump does, you hate. So this isn't a valid answer.

You would much rather eliminate the conservative point of view rather than allow it. You only pay attention to censorship when it is of your viewpoints and not conservatives.

Objectively, one would fight for all viewpoints to be allowed in a forum of knowledge. Instead of just one.

You aren't fooling anyone. I've seen your posts. Flaming liberal as they come.

 

[Marion Morrison]

Conservatives have long appreciated that many social problems are complex and fluid — that the success of government initiatives is typically dependent upon local knowledge and local buy-in. Absent these, well-intentioned efforts tend to fail and often cause great harm in the process. As a consequence, conservatives consistently assert that one-size-fits-all and top-down approaches to social problems are unlikely to yield the intended results.


This same logic holds with regard to increasing ideological perspectives in higher education.


One cannot legislate an institutional culture that encourages viewpoint diversity — let alone an environment where diversity is effectively leveraged to improve research or teaching. This must be willingly and willfully enacted by faculty, students and administrators in their day-to-day interactions. Agents must be convinced, not compelled, to learn and grow from diverse perspectives.

Trump’s proposed executive order is counterproductive to this end.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...e9-9361-301ffb5bd5e6_story.html?noredirect=on



Put another way, universities can enforce rules that enhance conservatives’ abilities to speak on campus — but others may grow far less willing to listen. And there is little the White House, or Republican lawmakers, could plausibly do about that.


And of course, Republicans will not retain control of the White House forever. It is highly plausible that Trump’s tactic here would be turned against conservatives in a subsequent Democratic administration.




Consider: Many religious schools receive federal funding. Liberty University, for instance, gets nearly half a billion dollars per year. Yet Liberty University has also faced widespread criticism for its lack of viewpoint diversity and, at times, its outright censorship of those who contradict university president Jerry Falwell Jr.

Whatever Trump does, you hate. So this isn't a valid answer.

You would much rather eliminate the conservative point of view rather than allow it. You only pay attention to censorship when it is of your viewpoints and not conservatives.

Objectively, one would fight for all viewpoints to be allowed in a forum of knowledge. Instead of just one.

You aren't fooling anyone. I've seen your posts. Flaming liberal as they come.

Liberals support free speech. It's Social Marxists that want to suppress it.

 

[Valerie]

Consider: Many religious schools receive federal funding. Liberty University, for instance, gets nearly half a billion dollars per year. Yet Liberty University has also faced widespread criticism for its lack of viewpoint diversity and, at times, its outright censorship of those who contradict university president Jerry Falwell Jr.

This is the likely outcome of Trump’s proposed executive order (assuming it survives the inevitable legal challenge): more Washington bureaucrats making increasingly politicized decisions about higher-ed funding. Conservatives, of all people, should understand how poorly that’s likely to turn out.

 

[Lakhota]

I have read that President Trump is very concerned with the violence on American campuses and he is vowing to issue an Executive Order saying that colleges will have their federal funding withheld if they violate free speech on campus. This looks very promising.

Trump vows executive order requiring 'free speech' at colleges | Reuters

"If universities do not comply “it will be very costly,” he said. The U.S. government awards universities more than $30 billion annually in research funds."

In other words - Trump wants to make college students as dumb as his base. Why not just put Betsy DeVos or David Duke in charge of all the colleges.

 

[Valerie]

Whatever Trump does, you hate. .

true story

 

[Marion Morrison]

Consider: Many religious schools receive federal funding. Liberty University, for instance, gets nearly half a billion dollars per year. Yet Liberty University has also faced widespread criticism for its lack of viewpoint diversity and, at times, its outright censorship of those who contradict university president Jerry Falwell Jr.

This is the likely outcome of Trump’s proposed executive order (assuming it survives the inevitable legal challenge): more Washington bureaucrats making increasingly politicized decisions about higher-ed funding. Conservatives, of all people, should understand how poorly that’s likely to turn out.

They need to be hit in the admission standards and student loan dept.

 

[RandomPoster]

Conservatives have long appreciated that many social problems are complex and fluid — that the success of government initiatives is typically dependent upon local knowledge and local buy-in. Absent these, well-intentioned efforts tend to fail and often cause great harm in the process. As a consequence, conservatives consistently assert that one-size-fits-all and top-down approaches to social problems are unlikely to yield the intended results.


This same logic holds with regard to increasing ideological perspectives in higher education.


One cannot legislate an institutional culture that encourages viewpoint diversity — let alone an environment where diversity is effectively leveraged to improve research or teaching. This must be willingly and willfully enacted by faculty, students and administrators in their day-to-day interactions. Agents must be convinced, not compelled, to learn and grow from diverse perspectives.

Trump’s proposed executive order is counterproductive to this end.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...e9-9361-301ffb5bd5e6_story.html?noredirect=on



Put another way, universities can enforce rules that enhance conservatives’ abilities to speak on campus — but others may grow far less willing to listen. And there is little the White House, or Republican lawmakers, could plausibly do about that.


And of course, Republicans will not retain control of the White House forever. It is highly plausible that Trump’s tactic here would be turned against conservatives in a subsequent Democratic administration.




Consider: Many religious schools receive federal funding. Liberty University, for instance, gets nearly half a billion dollars per year. Yet Liberty University has also faced widespread criticism for its lack of viewpoint diversity and, at times, its outright censorship of those who contradict university president Jerry Falwell Jr.

Whatever Trump does, you hate. So this isn't a valid answer.

You would much rather eliminate the conservative point of view rather than allow it. You only pay attention to censorship when it is of your viewpoints and not conservatives.

Objectively, one would fight for all viewpoints to be allowed in a forum of knowledge. Instead of just one.

You aren't fooling anyone. I've seen your posts. Flaming liberal as they come.

Liberals support free speech. It's Social Marxists that want to suppress it.

The leftists were howling about free speech back in the 60s and 70s until they got control of academia and the MSM. Now, free speech isn't so important any more.

 

[Jackson]

We’re really doing our college kids a disservice by not exposing them to different points of view.

Right now it only l;iberal views that are considered appropriate. This has to change.

 

[Marion Morrison]

We’re really doing our college kids a disservice by not exposing them to different points of view.

Right now it only l;iberal views that are considered appropriate. This has to change.

You need to learn the difference between liberal and leftist and Social Marxist and leftist Authoritarian.

Most of what you are calling "liberal" is actually Social Marxist.

Liberals aren't so bad, Social Marxists that call themselves are.

 

[Valerie]

When I went to school, me and 1 black friend from the hood were able to speak up against the Humanities department's new policies..

what were the policies you (and your 1 black friend) spoke up against..??