Harry Dresden
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how do you go about doing that Truth?......I want Americans to vote.
You people obviously dont want Americans to vote.
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how do you go about doing that Truth?......I want Americans to vote.
You people obviously dont want Americans to vote.
geezus sometimes you talk like dumbass......Well, I suggest you log, off, get out of the trailer ASAP and get down to DMV for your license.
I suggest you get a party that is not anti American
Why Voter ID is bad for Wisconsin - One Wisconsin Now
Wisconsin's population is substantially less likely to have a state-issued identification. Those without state-issued photo identification and who would need to obtain one under the Wisconsin Voter ID bill include:
◦23 percent of all elderly Wisconsinites over the age of 65
◦17 percent of white men and women
◦55 percent of all African American males and 49 percent of African American women
◦46 percent of Hispanic men and 59% of Hispanic women
◦78 percent of African American males age 18-24 and 66 percent of African American women age 18-24
[Driver License Status of the Voting Age Population in Wisconsin, 6/05]
Now how about if you dont have a car to drive there?
There are many people in the US who do not have cars
geezus sometimes you talk like dumbass......I suggest you get a party that is not anti American
Sometimes???
what if it is? Will you call a spade a spade? No... you'll just come up with some other bullshit.
Instead of 'claiming' it is so.. prove it... or be branded a liar and a partisan hack.
Ok.... let's wait and see how it unfolds. Then I'll be back and start another thread on the subject... let's see what the reaction is from the right.
EDIT: be "branded"??? you nutbag... you think I give a shit what "you" "brand" me as? What a blustering sense of self importance you have there buddy.
Then when asked for proof, you instantly backed down and started the 'well, what if...' crap.you don't understand, do you? They are only closing them down where the demographics lean toward the Democrats. You don't think that's fishy at all? Of course not....
Show me the fraud they are designed to prevent.
There is no fraud of this type that is capable of changing any election.
So you are supporting spending millions of dollars to keep legal Americans from voting.
Well, since you asked so nicely.
Soon after the investigation started, it became evident that this was not a case of isolated wrongdoing, but rather a case of extensive, substantial, and widespread fraud in precincts and wards throughout Chicago. The FBI investigators concluded that their regular tools-interviewing witnesses, obtaining documents, and using handwriting experts to analyze signatures on documents-would not be up to the task. After all, to conduct a complete investigation, they would have to review "virtually all of the 1,000,000 ballot applications submitted in the City of Chicago in the November election" as well as the voter lists maintained by the election board for all of Chicago's 2,910 precincts (comprising approximately 1.6 million voters) to check for the names of voters registered in more than one precinct, as well as registered voters who were dead.[19]
So the FBI employed a new and unique tool in vote fraud investigation: a computer. Because this had never been done before, the FBI had to write a computer program that would match data between the list of registered voters, the list of individuals who had voted, and other databases. To that end, the FBI and federal prosecutors obtained death records from the Bureau of Vital Statistics; local, state, and federal prison records; the national Social Security list; Immigration and Naturalization Service records on aliens; driver's license records; and even utility (gas, electric, water, and telephone) records.[20]
Locker was shocked at the sheer magnitude of the number of fraudulent votes and the fact that fraud occurred in every single Chicago precinct.[21] More than 3,000 votes had been cast in the names of individuals who were dead, and more than 31,000 individuals had voted twice in different locations in the city.[22] Thousands of individuals had supposedly voted despite being incarcerated at the time of the election, and utility records showed that some individuals who voted were registered as living on vacant lots.
Where Theres Smoke Theres Fire 100000 Stolen Votes in Chicago | The Heritage Foundation
The Heritage Foundation is not a good source of anything but partisan hackery
Show me the fraud they are designed to prevent.
There is no fraud of this type that is capable of changing any election.
So you are supporting spending millions of dollars to keep legal Americans from voting.
Well, since you asked so nicely.
Soon after the investigation started, it became evident that this was not a case of isolated wrongdoing, but rather a case of extensive, substantial, and widespread fraud in precincts and wards throughout Chicago. The FBI investigators concluded that their regular tools-interviewing witnesses, obtaining documents, and using handwriting experts to analyze signatures on documents-would not be up to the task. After all, to conduct a complete investigation, they would have to review "virtually all of the 1,000,000 ballot applications submitted in the City of Chicago in the November election" as well as the voter lists maintained by the election board for all of Chicago's 2,910 precincts (comprising approximately 1.6 million voters) to check for the names of voters registered in more than one precinct, as well as registered voters who were dead.[19]
So the FBI employed a new and unique tool in vote fraud investigation: a computer. Because this had never been done before, the FBI had to write a computer program that would match data between the list of registered voters, the list of individuals who had voted, and other databases. To that end, the FBI and federal prosecutors obtained death records from the Bureau of Vital Statistics; local, state, and federal prison records; the national Social Security list; Immigration and Naturalization Service records on aliens; driver's license records; and even utility (gas, electric, water, and telephone) records.[20]
Locker was shocked at the sheer magnitude of the number of fraudulent votes and the fact that fraud occurred in every single Chicago precinct.[21] More than 3,000 votes had been cast in the names of individuals who were dead, and more than 31,000 individuals had voted twice in different locations in the city.[22] Thousands of individuals had supposedly voted despite being incarcerated at the time of the election, and utility records showed that some individuals who voted were registered as living on vacant lots.
Where Theres Smoke Theres Fire 100000 Stolen Votes in Chicago | The Heritage Foundation
The Heritage Foundation is not a good source of anything but partisan hackery
truthmatters said:Mr. von Spakovsky, a visiting legal scholar at The Heritage Foundation
There is no need to make obsticles to voting.
Why do you think its good for the US to have fewer voters?
Because you know it benifits your party.
You put party over country
Well, since you asked so nicely.
Where Theres Smoke Theres Fire 100000 Stolen Votes in Chicago | The Heritage Foundation
The Heritage Foundation is not a good source of anything but partisan hackery
What's the matter, can't dispute the facts, so you go after the source? Isn't this what you constantly accuse everyone else of doing?
And why are you claiming the Heritage Foundation as hacks when you cited them in post #70?
truthmatters said:Mr. von Spakovsky, a visiting legal scholar at The Heritage Foundation
http://www.usmessageboard.com/3914311-post70.html
The Heritage Foundation is not a good source of anything but partisan hackery
What's the matter, can't dispute the facts, so you go after the source? Isn't this what you constantly accuse everyone else of doing?
And why are you claiming the Heritage Foundation as hacks when you cited them in post #70?
truthmatters said:Mr. von Spakovsky, a visiting legal scholar at The Heritage Foundation
http://www.usmessageboard.com/3914311-post70.html
I am not going to waste my time readin it because they are a partisan propaganda site.
You lap up the shit , I flush shit.
Republican claims of widespread voter irregularity have long been debunked. After a two-year investigation, Republican Attorney General J.B. Van Hollen has found only 11 potentially improper votes cast out of nearly 3 million votes in 2008. The former Wisconsin U.S. attorney under George W. Bush, Steve Biskupic, concluded after a similar investigation that there was no widespread voter fraud. The majority of charges in all of these cases involved felons who were technically ineligible to vote.
You give no reason why they are needed.
The type of fraud this costly measure is claimed to prevent doesnt statically exsist
There is no voter fraud. The studies cited in the report are 30 years old.
The purpose of voter ID laws is to prevent Democrats from voting.
Classic Rovian politics.
There is no voter fraud. The studies cited in the report are 30 years old.
The purpose of voter ID laws is to prevent Democrats from voting.
Classic Rovian politics.