Turkey is attacking the Kurds, who were risking their lives for the US just last week..

[Third Party]

Trump the draft Dodger has no respect for the lives lost and the act of a consistent ally.
Thousands of Kurds lost their lives while fighting by US forces in the fight against ISIS.. And this how Trump rewards them.
Trump the draft dodger has the blood of the Kurds on his hands.
Trump: ‘I will totally destroy the economy’

How many Kurds carried American flags? I read they are Communists-and we should help them? Spill our blood-no thanks.

 

[HaShev]

Interesting to note: Dems prior administration argued to trust Iran a sworn enemy who was never trustworthy during it's deal, but now blasts this administration for trusting a Nato allyTurkey who was reliable before now. DEMS NEED TO STOP FLIP FLOPPING TO WHATEVER FITS THEIR POLITICAL TACTICAL NARRATIVE, THIS is why the avg citizen hates politicians, they notice the double standard and phoney positions.

 

[charwin95]

How sad is that for you to say that.

There are spineless GOPs speaking against your fake messiah. I can assure you that there are hundreds of them against Trumpy. They just can’t say anything because they are scared.

Trump will pay dearly for this atrocities with blood in his hands. Now he is threatening Turkey with sanctions.

Do you honestly think Endrogan will listen to that now?
Does this make sense to you?

I love THAT, also.....hahhahahahahahahah
pissing you people off over insignificant crap
hahahahahhaaha

Good I’m honored that you like it. Because that is the reality.

No I’m not piss at all. I’m just trying to show dumb and ignorant people the reality.

the reality is you don't know the reality of history
we never should've been there in the first place

Really? We were there to fight ISIS.

You don’t know shit dude.

let's send troops EVERYWHERE !!
I guess that would make you happy

We are already doing that. Ignorant dude.

 

[charwin95]

Fuck The Kurds.

Take your meds and go to bed.

I don't take meds or suffer from a mental illness...libs do.

Oh I’m sorry if I said meds.

I mean to say go take your meth.

 

[charwin95]

Scientific fact....most leftists are mental cases.

Also a fact: Fuck The Kurds

High on meth? You got that backwards.

 

[charwin95]

Congrats Trump. You saved your Turkish hotels by a troop withdrawal from Syria. And you suggested to the Kurds to leave their homelands too. Sometimes the USA is still able to baffle me.

MAGA--I love it when he does that

Explain to us with his worthless foreign policies are in disarray or disaster.
How is that MAGA played out?


Right now we are still waiting when that MAGA starts here at home.

Stfu Charmin

I understand truth hurts.

 

[charwin95]

Trump the draft Dodger has no respect for the lives lost and the act of a consistent ally.
Thousands of Kurds lost their lives while fighting by US forces in the fight against ISIS.. And this how Trump rewards them.
Trump the draft dodger has the blood of the Kurds on his hands.
Trump: ‘I will totally destroy the economy’

Grab a gun and go help them, brave boy.

Why do you want the US military to manipulate and conquer indigenous peoples in a Third World country?

We’ve been doing that for decades asshole. Till your inept POTUS made is impotent.

Since you don’t have a clue. The Kurds helped us fight the ISIS that Trump claimed victory.

 

[charwin95]

If it comes to that, we should. Of course, there are ways to Bring Turkey to heal without going to war. Economic Sanctions, suspension from NATO, etc.

Fun to watch the Right Wing Warmongers turn into a bunch of hippies when their Orange Man wants to sell out an ally.

Yet harder economic sanctions are "bad" when applied to Iran. Again, you would bitch about whatever Trump did.

Your views on this are worthless.

There is no way in hell that you can tell us this is good Trump policy.

We have to see the outcome. Trump has always been a "get the Troops out" guy by thought. And I think that mostly revolves around boots on the ground, he seems like a guy OK with bombing or missiling the shit out of anyone that looks at us sideways.

I support pulling troops out if and when for a good reason. So far the only reason that this lousy POTUS had come out was ..... They did not help us in Normandy.

His own spineless GOPs headed by McConnell are even against this abandonment of an ally.

No, you complain about this because you think it hurts Trump, and that's the only reason.

Complaining? The Kurds helped us fight the ISIS then this lousy POTUS abandoned them with no good explanation. They are getting slaughtered creating millions of people getting misplaced becoming refugees.

Fuck Trump.

 

[charwin95]

Well, I dont think we needed to go to war with Turkey. All we really needed to do was stay put. It's not like that was a hot spot. In the last 5 years we lost 6 soldiers in the region while the Kurds lost 11,000 because they were the ones on the offensive.... for themselves yes, but also for us. It isnt telling the true story if people try to say the Kurds were only fighting for themselves, they knew they were also fighting for our objectives and at least, THEY thought that they were our ally.
If we had simply stayed put, was Turkey going to bomb us? I don't think so. I think there are many other places we could have brought troops home from Around the world, that would have had less a devastating effect on a population. I think it just wasnt the time to bring out troops yet..... at least not without attempting some negotiations first. Something to hold Erdogon to.
I don't believe Erdogon has real proof that the Kurds he's bombing now were PKK, the bombing was unprovoked and the Turks are really taking advantage of a situation and I think Trump really made a mistake here by not valuing the ally that the Kurds are to us.

The problem is the Kurd's overall goal, a united Kurdistan will require Turkey, Iraq and Syria to give up substantial territory.

It's amazing that for decades we have used Kurds for our own purposes, playing lip service to their desire for a homeland, but now, all of a sudden, when it can hurt Trump, people really start caring about them?

Because leaving US troops of less than 100 in that area doesn’t hurt. They are not in danger.

But abandoning the area for no good excuse is just a worthless garbage pile of cow dung policy.

They would have been in danger if Turkey moved anyway, and it would also have created the chance of an international incident.

How? Can you enlighten me?

By some mortar shell landing on american troops in the vicinity of Kurdish rebels/troops/whatevers.

Wrong. Try again.
You are a Trump supporter.
What do you know anyway?

 

[charwin95]

Fighting Turkey’s military might are no match for these Kurds. Oh they will fight alright that I can guarantee......... but they will get slaughtered.

Then what? Will you support sanctions against Turkey? Kicking them out of NATO? War?

Hawk. Sanctions against Turkey, kicking out of NATO and war? What the hell are you talking about?

That is heck of a pay. To just leave less than 100 us troops in that area.

And if Turkey moved anyway and some of them died, you would have bitched and moaned about how Trump left out troops there to die.

These US troops are inside the Kurds territory. They’ve been there before even Trumpits became POTUS.

How and why should they be in danger? There are no Turkey inside the Kurds territories. Or they will be eaten alive including the feathers.

There is no such thing as "kurdish territory". It is still soverign Syrian territory.

Please educate yourself on the situation before talking about it. The Kurds are split between Turkey, Syria and Iraq. Turkey's issue is the Syrian Kurds are working with the Turkish Kurds, some of whom Turkey consider terrorists, because of their demand of a Kurdish state, made from the three above existing States, and their willingness to use force to get it.

Educate myself? I can assure you 100% I know far far more knowledgeable than you about Middle East.
The only other member that is better informed then me in this site is irosie.

So don’t educate me about the Kurds. Don’t give me that bullshit about territory.

And it doesn’t matter. Kurds was our close ally in that area till your inept POTUS steps in. Now this moron is coming out with lots of excuses because he is getting beaten all over the place.
Now he sent his VP and SOS to beg Endrogan for ceasefire. Does that make sense to you?

 

[charwin95]

Because leaving US troops of less than 100 in that area doesn’t hurt. They are not in danger.

But abandoning the area for no good excuse is just a worthless garbage pile of cow dung policy.

They would have been in danger if Turkey moved anyway, and it would also have created the chance of an international incident.

turkey didn't move in, until Trump gave them the OK to move in.... turkey has not moved in the past several years, because they could not take chances that they would harm U S Troops

So Trump gave an explicit "OK?"

Or they didn't move because the Kurd thing has been escalating where it has now gotten to a point they had to take action.

By withdrawing US a tiny forces from Kurd territories. Yes Trump gave the signal to endrogan.

1. Actually Edgrogan told Trump they were going to cross the Border.

2. Did you want Trump to keep US forces there and put them in harms way? or maybe threaten Turkey with war if they decided to move?

1. Actually the right word is..... Trump gave Endrogan the go signal to invade the Kurds to be slaughtered.

2. That is very dumb. If he didn’t give Endrogan the go ahead. We would not be discussing this garbage Trump foreign policy. People would not be misplaced and slaughtered.

 

[charwin95]

turkey didn't move in, until Trump gave them the OK to move in.... turkey has not moved in the past several years, because they could not take chances that they would harm U S Troops

So Trump gave an explicit "OK?"

Or they didn't move because the Kurd thing has been escalating where it has now gotten to a point they had to take action.

By withdrawing US a tiny forces from Kurd territories. Yes Trump gave the signal to endrogan.

Actually Edgrogan told Trump they were going to cross the Border.

Did you want Trump to keep US forces there and put them in harms way? or maybe threaten Turkey with war if they decided to move?

Since when is the leader of Turkey more powerful and stronger than the President of the United States?

He's not. So what you are saying is Trump should have threatened military retaliation if Turkey crossed the Syrian border?

Wrong. Trump doesn’t have to say or do anything. He could have just leave everything as it is. Leaving 50 US troops in there playing soccer.

And you wouldn’t be defending the atrocities that is happening right now.

 

[charwin95]

By withdrawing US a tiny forces from Kurd territories. Yes Trump gave the signal to endrogan.

Actually Edgrogan told Trump they were going to cross the Border.

Did you want Trump to keep US forces there and put them in harms way? or maybe threaten Turkey with war if they decided to move?

Since when is the leader of Turkey more powerful and stronger than the President of the United States?

He's not. So what you are saying is Trump should have threatened military retaliation if Turkey crossed the Syrian border?

No silly willy.... it's called diplomacy, while carrying a big stick....

He should have sought advice from his experienced diplomatic and military advisors from his top 5 or 10 and with our allied partners, don't ya think?

----------------------------------------------- who knows , he MAY have sought advice from his Advisors . Then again all these 'allies' , why complicate things . USA is a Sovereign Nation 'Care4 .

I doubt it. You are saying the rest of Trump cabinets are inept as the POTUS.

 

[martybegan]

So Trump gave an explicit "OK?"

Or they didn't move because the Kurd thing has been escalating where it has now gotten to a point they had to take action.

By withdrawing US a tiny forces from Kurd territories. Yes Trump gave the signal to endrogan.

Actually Edgrogan told Trump they were going to cross the Border.

Did you want Trump to keep US forces there and put them in harms way? or maybe threaten Turkey with war if they decided to move?

Since when is the leader of Turkey more powerful and stronger than the President of the United States?

He's not. So what you are saying is Trump should have threatened military retaliation if Turkey crossed the Syrian border?

No silly willy.... it's called diplomacy, while carrying a big stick....

He should have sought advice from his experienced diplomatic and military advisors from his top 5 or 10 and with our allied partners, don't ya think?

And how do you know he didn't?

Oh right, leaks to news agencies that hate his guts.

 

[martybegan]

Yet harder economic sanctions are "bad" when applied to Iran. Again, you would bitch about whatever Trump did.

Your views on this are worthless.

There is no way in hell that you can tell us this is good Trump policy.

We have to see the outcome. Trump has always been a "get the Troops out" guy by thought. And I think that mostly revolves around boots on the ground, he seems like a guy OK with bombing or missiling the shit out of anyone that looks at us sideways.

I support pulling troops out if and when for a good reason. So far the only reason that this lousy POTUS had come out was ..... They did not help us in Normandy.

His own spineless GOPs headed by McConnell are even against this abandonment of an ally.

No, you complain about this because you think it hurts Trump, and that's the only reason.

Complaining? The Kurds helped us fight the ISIS then this lousy POTUS abandoned them with no good explanation. They are getting slaughtered creating millions of people getting misplaced becoming refugees.

Fuck Trump.

They have been getting killed for decades now, in three different countries.

Should we force Turkey, Iraq and Syria to give them their own country like they want?

 

[martybegan]

The problem is the Kurd's overall goal, a united Kurdistan will require Turkey, Iraq and Syria to give up substantial territory.

It's amazing that for decades we have used Kurds for our own purposes, playing lip service to their desire for a homeland, but now, all of a sudden, when it can hurt Trump, people really start caring about them?

Because leaving US troops of less than 100 in that area doesn’t hurt. They are not in danger.

But abandoning the area for no good excuse is just a worthless garbage pile of cow dung policy.

They would have been in danger if Turkey moved anyway, and it would also have created the chance of an international incident.

How? Can you enlighten me?

By some mortar shell landing on american troops in the vicinity of Kurdish rebels/troops/whatevers.

Wrong. Try again.
You are a Trump supporter.
What do you know anyway?

What a fucking arrogant ignorant prick you are.

Not wrong, you are just to stupid to have an actual debate with.

FOAD.

 

[martybegan]

Then what? Will you support sanctions against Turkey? Kicking them out of NATO? War?

Hawk. Sanctions against Turkey, kicking out of NATO and war? What the hell are you talking about?

That is heck of a pay. To just leave less than 100 us troops in that area.

And if Turkey moved anyway and some of them died, you would have bitched and moaned about how Trump left out troops there to die.

These US troops are inside the Kurds territory. They’ve been there before even Trumpits became POTUS.

How and why should they be in danger? There are no Turkey inside the Kurds territories. Or they will be eaten alive including the feathers.

There is no such thing as "kurdish territory". It is still soverign Syrian territory.

Please educate yourself on the situation before talking about it. The Kurds are split between Turkey, Syria and Iraq. Turkey's issue is the Syrian Kurds are working with the Turkish Kurds, some of whom Turkey consider terrorists, because of their demand of a Kurdish state, made from the three above existing States, and their willingness to use force to get it.

Educate myself? I can assure you 100% I know far far more knowledgeable than you about Middle East.
The only other member that is better informed then me in this site is irosie.

So don’t educate me about the Kurds. Don’t give me that bullshit about territory.

And it doesn’t matter. Kurds was our close ally in that area till your inept POTUS steps in. Now this moron is coming out with lots of excuses because he is getting beaten all over the place.
Now he sent his VP and SOS to beg Endrogan for ceasefire. Does that make sense to you?

And yet you still spout ignorance over the actual situation with the Kurds.

"beg" is your ill gotten opinion.

FOAD

 

[martybegan]

They would have been in danger if Turkey moved anyway, and it would also have created the chance of an international incident.

turkey didn't move in, until Trump gave them the OK to move in.... turkey has not moved in the past several years, because they could not take chances that they would harm U S Troops

So Trump gave an explicit "OK?"

Or they didn't move because the Kurd thing has been escalating where it has now gotten to a point they had to take action.

By withdrawing US a tiny forces from Kurd territories. Yes Trump gave the signal to endrogan.

1. Actually Edgrogan told Trump they were going to cross the Border.

2. Did you want Trump to keep US forces there and put them in harms way? or maybe threaten Turkey with war if they decided to move?

1. Actually the right word is..... Trump gave Endrogan the go signal to invade the Kurds to be slaughtered.

2. That is very dumb. If he didn’t give Endrogan the go ahead. We would not be discussing this garbage Trump foreign policy. People would not be misplaced and slaughtered.

Where is the evidence of this "slaughter"?

Are you accusing Turkey, a fellow NATO member of war crimes? if so you better be specific.

Also, FOAD

 

[martybegan]

So Trump gave an explicit "OK?"

Or they didn't move because the Kurd thing has been escalating where it has now gotten to a point they had to take action.

By withdrawing US a tiny forces from Kurd territories. Yes Trump gave the signal to endrogan.

Actually Edgrogan told Trump they were going to cross the Border.

Did you want Trump to keep US forces there and put them in harms way? or maybe threaten Turkey with war if they decided to move?

Since when is the leader of Turkey more powerful and stronger than the President of the United States?

He's not. So what you are saying is Trump should have threatened military retaliation if Turkey crossed the Syrian border?

Wrong. Trump doesn’t have to say or do anything. He could have just leave everything as it is. Leaving 50 US troops in there playing soccer.

And you wouldn’t be defending the atrocities that is happening right now.

No, if he left them there and Turkey went in anyway you would be bitching about how Trump left US Troops out there to die.

You would find something to bitch about Trump because you are a deranged TDS suffering oxygen thief.

FOAD

 

[Skylar]

By withdrawing US a tiny forces from Kurd territories. Yes Trump gave the signal to endrogan.

Actually Edgrogan told Trump they were going to cross the Border.

Did you want Trump to keep US forces there and put them in harms way? or maybe threaten Turkey with war if they decided to move?

Since when is the leader of Turkey more powerful and stronger than the President of the United States?

He's not. So what you are saying is Trump should have threatened military retaliation if Turkey crossed the Syrian border?

Wrong. Trump doesn’t have to say or do anything. He could have just leave everything as it is. Leaving 50 US troops in there playing soccer.

And you wouldn’t be defending the atrocities that is happening right now.

No, if he left them there and Turkey went in anyway you would be bitching about how Trump left US Troops out there to die.

You would find something to bitch about Trump because you are a deranged TDS suffering oxygen thief.

FOAD

Doesn't look like Trump's tweet nor his 'wisdom' did much to dissaude the turks.

And if the Turks are abiding the restrictions you insisted they were under.......why the new sanctions?

I mean who could have seen this coming.....beyond essentially everyone?