Turley Explains Why An Impeachment Inquiry is Warranted

[Care4all]

so why would hunter have an account in his name with his father's address??? even more odd...did he lie to the bank and say that was his address?

Not good when the answers simply turn up more questions

He lived at his father's house after his divorce from 2017 thru 2019.

But of course, YOU KNOW THAT, so why play dumb? We've discussed it previously....

Of course Hunter also travelled and lived elsewhere during that period as well, overseas and like in California where he met and married his new wife in 2019....I believe? His dad's home, was temporarily his steady home address for bills, banks, credit cards, driver's license as well, after his divorce from first wife, thru 2019.

 

[DBA]

Meanwhile, you’re alleging bribery but can’t say what he was bribed to do. You can’t prosecute a crime without being able to identify the central elements of that crime.

They aren't prosecuting Joe, they are investigating the litany of leads into his potential crimes of both him and his son. It seems as though you believe that they should not be able to investigate until they have a smoking gun which is enough to prosecute him, which is a catch 22 type of thing. It really makes little sense and doesn't happen in the real world.

 

[Care4all]

Cali with his wife

When did they move back to Delaware?

 

[Marener]

Yes I can see where some would believe it is.

I can also see how some would believe it is.

It’s because the right wing media has been brainwashing them.

 

[jc456]

We believe he has not broken the law (because there is not evidence that proves he has), not that he is above the law!

Learn the difference, silly one!

Then why do you care?

 

[Cellblock2429]

The report from the Democratic-led Ways and Means Committee found Trump wasn’t audited during his first two years in office. His first audit as president came only right when the IRS was asked directly by Congress to produce Trump’s tax returns.


That could be a violation of IRS policy, which states that “individual income tax returns for the President and Vice President will be subject to mandatory audit examination” and that they’ll receive “normal pipeline processing” and be subject to “regular filing and retention procedures.”

“The IRS has failed to administer its own mandatory audit program policies,” Ways and Means Chair Richard Neal (D-Mass.) said Thursday in the House, introducing legislation that bumps the presidential audit program up from the level of IRS policy to the level of federal law.

Democrats are mad the presidential audit program was ‘dormant’​

“After years of stonewalling and litigation ending at the Supreme Court, the Committee found that, for all practical purposes, the mandatory audit program was dormant. It wasn’t just functioning poorly — it was not functioning at all,” Neal said.

Neal’s legislation, which passed the House on Thursday, would give the Treasury three months to produce a report on a sitting president’s tax returns, which are required by law to be filed every year.

The bill also makes a president’s tax returns public along with those of any businesses they own.

“This has never been about one person, this has been about the office of the presidency,” Rep. Steven Horsford (D-Nev.) said Tuesday after the vote to release Trump’s returns.

Democrats are also calling out the ‘two-tiered tax system’​

Trump’s returns display sophisticated accounting whereby income from investments was offset by large, distributed business losses that reduced his tax liability. In 2020, the last year Trump was president, he didn’t pay any income tax at all.

Tax experts say his techniques are not atypical and are just some of many methods that are widely used by people with a lot of money to pay less in tax. These maneuvers can range from using bank loans backed by stock portfolios to obtain cash to combining trusts with annuities to keep money away from the government over the course of generations.

This sophistication is another source of anger for Democrats and is something they want to call attention to through the release of Trump’s returns.


“Trump’s returns likely look similar to those of many other wealthy tax cheats — hundreds of partnership interests, highly-questionable deductions, and debts that can be shifted around to wipe out tax liabilities,” Senate Finance Chair Ron Wyden (D-Ore.) said in a statement on Wednesday.

Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen has sounded similar notes about how taxes work in the U.S.

“At the core of the problem is a discrepancy in the ways types of income are reported to the IRS: opaque income sources frequently avoid scrutiny while wages and federal benefits are typically subject to nearly full compliance. This two-tiered tax system is unfair and deprives the country of resources to fund core priorities,” she said in a statement on congressional tax compliance proposals in 2021.

But the release of the returns is also about beating Donald Trump​

While Democrats have couched the release of the returns in a broader policy discussion, it’s just as much about politics and defeating a political rival.

Trump incensed Democrats during his presidency for the ways he broke presidential norms that extended beyond his refusal to release his tax returns. His prolific use of social media and his public castigation of judges and other public officials whom presidents usually don’t criticize changed the tone of political discourse in the country, much to the anger of the opposition party.

“When we win this election, and we have a new president of the United States in January, and we have a new secretary of the Treasury, and Richie Neal asks for the president’s returns, then the world will see what the president has been hiding all of this time,” House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) said in 2020.


The revelation of Trump’s huge business losses, which were presaged by years of investigative reporting, undermine the image of Trump as a successful, self-made businessman projected by TV shows like “The Apprentice” and that he ultimately capitalized on to win the presidency.

“Donald Trump had big deductions, big credits, and big losses — but seldom a big tax bill,” Rep. Lloyd Doggett (D-Texas) said in a statement on Tuesday. “This inquiry has unearthed many questions about how someone who claimed to be so rich can avoid so many taxes.”

Republicans are taking it personally​

Republicans have been looking past the policy discussion raised by the committee reports and are laying the groundwork for some political reprisals.


Outgoing Republican leader of the Ways and Means Committee Kevin Brady (Texas) talked about actions relating to personal tax returns in the context of the upcoming Congress, in which Republicans will take control of the House.

“I won’t speculate on what the next Congress and this committee will focus on related to tax returns,” he said on Tuesday.

“Democrats’ claim about the need to reform the presidential audit program is merely cover for weaponizing the tax code against political rivals,” Ways and Means Republicans said in statement on Thursday.


Tax experts say that Hunter Biden, who’s under investigation by the Justice Department over whether he paid enough taxes on payments he received while working on the board of a Ukrainian company, may be in Republican crosshairs.

“Ways and Means Republicans could come out and say, ‘You guys started it. This is both-sides-ism.’ And so they’re going to ask for the tax return information on Hunter Biden and Joe Biden and whoever else they want to embarrass,” Steve Rosenthal, a policy analyst with the Urban-Brookings Tax Policy Center, said in an interview.

Hunter Biden hired a new defense attorney this week, perhaps in anticipation of committee actions involving him during the next Congress, NBC News reported this week.

Why Democrats released Trump’s tax returns

After years of fighting for Donald Trump’s tax returns, Democrats finally got a hold of them and released them to the public through two congressional reports published this week. But Democrats str…

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/----/ Please point out the constitutional requirement that requires a candidate to reveal their tax returns. I'll wait while you gather your notes.

 

[Marener]

They aren't prosecuting Joe, they are investigating the litany of leads into his potential crimes of both him and his son. It seems as though you believe that they should not be able to investigate until they have a smoking gun which is enough to prosecute him, which is a catch 22 type of thing. It really makes little sense and doesn't happen in the real world.

Sounds like a motte and fallacy.

You start by attacking us for not believing Biden is corrupt but when it’s pointed out how weak your narrative is, now it’s just an investigation into potential corruption.

Good luck with the investigation. When it goes nowhere, don’t forget that you never had a solid basis to begin with.

 

[Care4all]

They aren't prosecuting Joe, they are investigating the litany of leads into his potential crimes of both him and his son. It seems as though you believe that they should not be able to investigate until they have a smoking gun which is enough to prosecute him, which is a catch 22 type of thing. It really makes little sense and doesn't happen in the real world.

They shouldn't have I GOT CHA!!! Dramatized DOG AND PONY SHOWS, with false accusations and innuendos until they actually have something, no???

 

[sealybobo]

/----/ Please point out the constitutional requirement that requires a candidate to reveal their tax returns. I'll wait while you gather your notes.

Not the point.

 

[struth]

I can also see how some would believe it is.

It’s because the right wing media has been brainwashing them.

The right wing media didn't make joey xiden lie repeatedly about his involvement and knowledge...

 

[Rawley]

I’m saying you can’t even name a crime yet.

Abuse of power.

 

[Marener]

The right wing media didn't make joey xiden lie repeatedly about his involvement and knowledge...

The right wing media sure has spent plenty of time spinning false narratives about payments while leaving out dates, and relevant factual information about how the deals were structured and followed through on.

Ever wonder why they speak so little about emails from the laptop?

 

[struth]

When did they move back to Delaware?

They didn't....he and his wife live in Malibu, CA. Geez man, you think if you were going to go on and on about a topic, defending the Xiden family, you'd have a clue at least about some basic information like where certain people live

 

[Marener]

Abuse of power.

Like saying someone is guilty of theft but refusing to say what was stolen from whom or when.

It doesn’t get you very far.

 

[struth]

Nope. Like I wasn't happy when I found out Biden had top secret stuff in his home. Then I gave Trump a pass for having so much of it, even after saying Hillary was sloppy with classified materials. Then we find out Trump is at Mara Lago waving around top secret documents to guests. And then he lied to FBI agents and tried to keep what they asked him to return?

You guys are usually good at pointing out the differences when those differences benefit you. But now, Trump can't say they all do it. Because only he did it.

Trump also said anyone who pleads the 5th is guilty. That is, until he had to plead the 5th.

You Trump supporters are dumb fuckers huh?

So you are giving Xiden and Clinton a pass on having classified material hidden for years....because Trump?

Gotcha.....hence why we call you all a cult

 

[Rawley]

Like saying someone is guilty of theft but refusing to say what was stolen from whom or when.

It doesn’t get you very far.

Just following your lead. Repubs have 10x the evidence Dems had when you opened your inquiry

 

[struth]

Well Trump's being charged. Like, 9 times? Rape, overinflating the values, stormy, tax fraud corp, tax fraud foundation, insurrection, lying to FBI top secret stuff, call to Georgia, Call to Ukraine,

You can't possibly believe Trump is innocent. More likely Trump thought because he was POTUS they'd never charge him so he crossed the line constantly.

yes, we know you all are really trying to keep him from running...we are well aware of all the political prosecutions and lawsuits etc.

that doesn't excuse your double standard, in fact it just further highlights it

 

[Marener]

Just following your lead. Repubs have 10x the evidence Dems had when you opened your inquiry

Dems had an actual abuse of power they could state.

Trump held up funding for Ukraine to demand Zelensky announce an investigation into Biden to support his campaign.

We had the ask in the phone call. We had the unexplained hold on the funding that came directly from the White House.

 

[struth]

Dems had an actual abuse of power they could state.

Trump held up funding for Ukraine to demand Zelensky announce an investigation into Biden to support his campaign.

We had the ask in the phone call. We had the unexplained hold on the funding that came directly from the White House.

yes, you all had parody you could state...but no evidence, in fact the evidence didn't show that at all.

See, the difference? The dems have evidence, that supports this criminal probe of the white house, they will see if there is enough evidence to support the impeachment...they won't use parody.

That's how it's suppose to work

 

[Marener]

yes, you all had parody you could state...but no evidence, in fact the evidence didn't show that at all.

See, the difference? The dems have evidence, that supports this criminal probe of the white house, they will see if there is enough evidence to support the impeachment...they won't use parody.

That's how it's suppose to work

The transcript of the phone call shows Trump asking Zelensky to investigate Biden. Are you actually questioning that?

Are you questioning whether Trump held up tue funding for Ukraine?

What exactly are you saying?