Two weeks notice. Is it fair to the employee?

[HereWeGoAgain]

That is true but I see that as an invasion of my freedom to walk out when needed. I guess if a better job is waiting why should a guy have to hang around for a bad employer when a better one is waiting? I surely don't owe an employer loyalty.

Burning bridges.

If it's bad employer, who cares? No one is obligated to be subservient in the way since feudalism went out of vogue.

Go ahead and burn those bridges.
Thats the problem with kids these days,they know nothing of the importance of their word.

 

[DGS49]

(1) for an "at will" employee (that is, most people), there is no obligation to provide two weeks' notice, just as there is no obligation on the part of the employer to provide severance pay (unless it is stipulated in the employee handbook).

(2) Most people leaving a job want to have a good reference from that position later in life. You never know when you will need it. Also, it is not uncommon to be looking for work in the future, and that former employer could well be the best available option. You don't want to burn bridges unnecessarily.

(3) Any new employer who demands that you "start immediately" should be looked at very carefully. They are in most cases causing hardship for the person's existing employer and in the absence of a real emergency (exceedingly rare, given that they position is vacant anyway), the company is probably fckud up in more ways than one.

(4) it is simply inconsiderate to leave with no notice; it is a hardship for the company, co-workers, clients, and so on. A mature, responsible person would only do this under extreme circumstances.

 

[Boss]

It's always been a professional courtesy. I used to give employees who gave me 2wks notice the option of leaving immediately if they wanted to. If I knew they had another job waiting, I wanted them to go to it. I had several of them decline my offer because they wanted to stay and help train their replacement. The only time I gave a bad reference was if they didn't call me or give any kind of notice... just stopped showing up.

 

[initforme]

How is it a hardship? Just hire someone else. Not rocket science. Its every man for himself. Teamwork is on the way out. Its the only recourse a good worker has.

 

[konradv]

You must have missed the part about having integrity.

Integrity doesn't pay the bills and it's often just a way to control employees. If it's not in a contract, it's not business and not real in a business sense. Therefore, it's a matter of courtesy that shouldn't be held hostage to doing what's best for one's family or future career.

 

[Timmy]

The new job should be cool wh waiting .

 

[initforme]

Integrity doesn't pay the bills is correct. Money pays the bills and if you can make more then you do.

 

[konradv]

At some lower level jobs it's actually a bad idea to give notice. I've known people who did the "right thing" and were told to leave immediately, losing out on two week's pay.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

You must have missed the part about having integrity.

Integrity doesn't pay the bills and it's often just a way to control employees. If it's not in a contract, it's not business and not real in a business sense. Therefore, it's a matter of courtesy that shouldn't be held hostage to doing what's best for one's family or future career.

Yes it does.
A perfect example would be my dumbass brother.
He's pretty much been black listed in his chosen profession because of all the bridges he burned.
No job isnt going to get the bills paid.

 

[Billo_Really]

Presumably most who don't give notice already have another job.

Those people should stop to think about what their new employer thinks about "not giving two weeks notice" to your former employer?

Are you going to do the same thing to them?

Maybe they made a mistake in hiring you?

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Integrity doesn't pay the bills is correct. Money pays the bills and if you can make more then you do.

Liberals and unintended consequences....
If I checked your references and I found out you bailed on an agreement with your previous employer I wouldnt hire you.

 

[konradv]

You must have missed the part about having integrity.

Integrity doesn't pay the bills and it's often just a way to control employees. If it's not in a contract, it's not business and not real in a business sense. Therefore, it's a matter of courtesy that shouldn't be held hostage to doing what's best for one's family or future career.

Yes it does. A perfect example would be my dumbass brother. He's pretty much been black listed in his chosen profession because of all the bridges he burned. No job isnt going to get the bills paid.

Sounds like your brother makes a habit of burning bridges. That's not what I'm talking about. If a good opportunity depends on you taking the job immediately, worrying about notice should be low on the list of considerations, unless hefty severance or pension penalties are involved.

 

[initforme]

That depends how badly you needed my skills. Those in high demand use that leverage against prospective employers and find the one willing to pay the most.

 

[BULLDOG]

Unless it's put in a contract, the ONLY right an employee has left is the right to say "screw you, I'm outa here"

 

[konradv]

Presumably most who don't give notice already have another job.

Those people should stop to think about what their new employer thinks about "not giving two weeks notice" to your former employer? Are you going to do the same thing to them? Maybe they made a mistake in hiring you?

If you're not giving notice, it's presumably because the new employer wants you immediately and, therefore, has no real reason to judge you on that score.

 

[konradv]

Unless it's put in a contract, the ONLY right an employee has left is the right to say "screw you, I'm outa here"

Johnny Paycheck- Take This Job and Shove It

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

You must have missed the part about having integrity.

Integrity doesn't pay the bills and it's often just a way to control employees. If it's not in a contract, it's not business and not real in a business sense. Therefore, it's a matter of courtesy that shouldn't be held hostage to doing what's best for one's family or future career.

Yes it does. A perfect example would be my dumbass brother. He's pretty much been black listed in his chosen profession because of all the bridges he burned. No job isnt going to get the bills paid.

Sounds like your brother makes a habit of burning bridges. That's not what I'm talking about. If a good opportunity depends on you taking the job immediately, worrying about notice should be low on the list of considerations, unless hefty severance or pension penalties are involved.

So as long as you get what you want you're willing to fuck over your previous employer.
Burning bridges.....

 

[initforme]

Correct. If my new employer needs me now then a guy needs to get it going asap. Why should I train the new person? That's what management is for.

 

[rightwinger]

Two weeks notice is a courtesy given by employees

If a two week transition is so important...why are employees escorted to the door as soon as they are terminated?

 

[konradv]

So as long as you get what you want you're willing to fuck over your previous employer. Burning bridges.....

In some cases the only response is, "I've never enjoyed a fire more."