Two weeks notice. Is it fair to the employee?

[initforme]

Bridges are burned all the time. Its the world of business. Dog eat dog world.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Presumably most who don't give notice already have another job.

Those people should stop to think about what their new employer thinks about "not giving two weeks notice" to your former employer? Are you going to do the same thing to them? Maybe they made a mistake in hiring you?

If you're not giving notice, it's presumably because the new employer wants you immediately and, therefore, has no real reason to judge you on that score.

Your new employer doesnt give a shit if you burn the good will of your previous employer.

 

[konradv]

f you're not giving notice, it's presumably because the new employer wants you immediately and, therefore, has no real reason to judge you on that score.

Your new employer doesnt give a shit if you burn the good will of your previous employer.

In most cases, if it's because the new employer is insisting on it, I'd say, "No, they don't care".

 

[rightwinger]

If your company terminates you. Security escorts you to your desk and watches you clear it out to make sure you are not stealing. You are then escorted out the door.

Why should an employee give two weeks notice?

 

[Spinster]

All you business saavy people here is a question. Should an employee have to give two weeks notice before leaving a job? I myself think that is not fair to the employee if the better job can be started immediately. Is there still this infringement of freedom on the employee?

Two weeks notice is merely a considerate thing to do. You never want to burn bridges. It's not mandatory. Most times, employers want the individual out as soon as they give notice because they don't want to you to have access to do damage to the business. When folks are short timers they often intentionally screw things up as retailiation toward whatever made them decide to leave. Also, employees that have announced they are leaving tend to have a bad attitude and spread it amongst other employees. Nobody wins with a soured disposition, not employers and not other employees.

 

[initforme]

I have been retired too long to know but escorting an employee out is tasteless.

 

[paulitician]

To my knowledge, it isn't a requirement. And if an Employer can dump an Employee at their convenience, an Employee should be afforded the same convenience. A two week notice isn't necessary.

 

[koshergrl]

All you business saavy people here is a question. Should an employee have to give two weeks notice before leaving a job? I myself think that is not fair to the employee if the better job can be started immediately. Is there still this infringement of freedom on the employee?

What freedom is being infringed upon? What utter tripe...since when is it the obligation of FAIRNESS a tenet of business? Fucking socialists...what a bunch of lazy good for nothings.

 

[initforme]

If fairness is not a tenent of business then it shouldn't be a tenent of the employee correct?

 

[paulitician]

All you business saavy people here is a question. Should an employee have to give two weeks notice before leaving a job? I myself think that is not fair to the employee if the better job can be started immediately. Is there still this infringement of freedom on the employee?

What freedom is being infringed upon? What utter tripe...since when is it the obligation of FAIRNESS a tenet of business? Fucking socialists...what a bunch of lazy good for nothings.

An Employer has the right to dump an Employee anytime they choose. So there's no reason why an Employee shouldn't be afforded the same right. Seems fair to me. A two week notice isn't necessary. Businesses shouldn't expect it.

 

[Boss]

If your company terminates you. Security escorts you to your desk and watches you clear it out to make sure you are not stealing. You are then escorted out the door.

Why should an employee give two weeks notice?

Wow... Sounds like you've been through that drill!

Again... it's professional courtesy to give a notice if you are leaving for another job. There is no law that you have to. The employer can't sue you if you don't. It shows both your present and future employer that you have integrity, character and honor. I was always more than willing to wait 2 wks for a new hire to work a notice because that told me they were people of integrity who would do me right. And as I said earlier, I always gave departing employees the option to leave without working a notice. I have never fired anyone and given them two weeks notice but I have laid off people who I gave two weeks notice, or in some cases, paid them 2 wks severance.

 

[Care4all]

All you business saavy people here is a question. Should an employee have to give two weeks notice before leaving a job? I myself think that is not fair to the employee if the better job can be started immediately. Is there still this infringement of freedom on the employee?

Give your 2 weeks notice....you can always cut it a little short at the last minute if you really feel like it.

And if you are leaving what you consider a "bad Employer" and excited about moving on to your New employer, then give a week or just a few days.

In near all cases that I have gone through with employee resignations, if there are ill feelings between the employee and the employer, when the employee gives their two weeks notice, we have let them go on the spot, and paid them for however long their notice given was.... if they gave 2 weeks, we paid them the 2 weeks and let that day be their last.

Otherwise we let employees complete their 2-4 weeks notice periods, had 'going away with good wishes for success' parties for them, especially if they had worked there several years.

So, I suppose it all depends on the specific circumstances.

 

[paulitician]

If your company terminates you. Security escorts you to your desk and watches you clear it out to make sure you are not stealing. You are then escorted out the door.

Why should an employee give two weeks notice?

Wow... Sounds like you've been through that drill!

Again... it's professional courtesy to give a notice if you are leaving for another job. There is no law that you have to. The employer can't sue you if you don't. It shows both your present and future employer that you have integrity, character and honor. I was always more than willing to wait 2 wks for a new hire to work a notice because that told me they were people of integrity who would do me right. And as I said earlier, I always gave departing employees the option to leave without working a notice. I have never fired anyone and given them two weeks notice but I have laid off people who I gave two weeks notice, or in some cases, paid them 2 wks severance.

Ha, 'professional courtesy.' Boy are those days gone. Businesses will dump your ass so quick, your head'll spin. There is no more 'courtesy.' Businesses don't care whether you and your family lives or dies. When it's time to dump you, it's happening. There is no 'two week notice' requirement.

It ain't about 'courtesy.' Those days are long gone. So Businesses shouldn't expect Employees to give them two weeks notice. To expect that, would just be disngenuous hypocrisy on their part.

 

[rightwinger]

If your company terminates you. Security escorts you to your desk and watches you clear it out to make sure you are not stealing. You are then escorted out the door.

Why should an employee give two weeks notice?

Wow... Sounds like you've been through that drill!

Again... it's professional courtesy to give a notice if you are leaving for another job. There is no law that you have to. The employer can't sue you if you don't. It shows both your present and future employer that you have integrity, character and honor. I was always more than willing to wait 2 wks for a new hire to work a notice because that told me they were people of integrity who would do me right. And as I said earlier, I always gave departing employees the option to leave without working a notice. I have never fired anyone and given them two weeks notice but I have laid off people who I gave two weeks notice, or in some cases, paid them 2 wks severance.

My brother just went through it. Major Defense Contractor, 15 years on the job, 55 years old. He received notice that morning and was allowed to clean his desk of personal belongings with security watching. He was escorted to the door by lunch time. No goodbyes, no fair well lunch, no thanks for your service...They don't trust you not to steal or sabotage the office
He got severance but no respect of his integrity

Why should an employee offer more than that when they take another job?

 

[Care4all]

If your company terminates you. Security escorts you to your desk and watches you clear it out to make sure you are not stealing. You are then escorted out the door.

Why should an employee give two weeks notice?

Wow... Sounds like you've been through that drill!

Again... it's professional courtesy to give a notice if you are leaving for another job. There is no law that you have to. The employer can't sue you if you don't. It shows both your present and future employer that you have integrity, character and honor. I was always more than willing to wait 2 wks for a new hire to work a notice because that told me they were people of integrity who would do me right. And as I said earlier, I always gave departing employees the option to leave without working a notice. I have never fired anyone and given them two weeks notice but I have laid off people who I gave two weeks notice, or in some cases, paid them 2 wks severance.

My brother just went through it. Major Defense Contractor, 15 years on the job, 55 years old. He received notice that morning and was allowed to clean his desk of personal belongings with security watching. He was escorted to the door by lunch time. No goodbyes, no fair well lunch, no thanks for your service...They don't trust you not to steal or sabotage the office
He got severance but no respect of his integrity

Why should an employee offer more than that when they take another job?

This is normal in the private sector, especially if you have confidentiality agreements as part of the hiring package....for a job that works with Company "secrets"/ "proprietary secrets". there is always a part that covers a period after you have been let go, where the Company is required to pay you...especially if the contract states you are not allowed to go and work for a competitor for 6 months after you leave or are let go....they have to pay you with benefits for that period.

Yes, I can see how he would sort of feel humiliated or something of that sort, but I would bet 10 to one if he read the fine print of the contract, somewhere in there it states this is what the procedure to end a job has to be for such and such and yahdeedah reasons... It just would seem likely to have something like such to be written in to the contract....

 

[Mr Natural]

If the prospective employer does not understand the need for you to give two weeks notice to your current employer, then that person is not someone you'd want to work for.

 

[rightwinger]

If your company terminates you. Security escorts you to your desk and watches you clear it out to make sure you are not stealing. You are then escorted out the door.

Why should an employee give two weeks notice?

Wow... Sounds like you've been through that drill!

Again... it's professional courtesy to give a notice if you are leaving for another job. There is no law that you have to. The employer can't sue you if you don't. It shows both your present and future employer that you have integrity, character and honor. I was always more than willing to wait 2 wks for a new hire to work a notice because that told me they were people of integrity who would do me right. And as I said earlier, I always gave departing employees the option to leave without working a notice. I have never fired anyone and given them two weeks notice but I have laid off people who I gave two weeks notice, or in some cases, paid them 2 wks severance.

My brother just went through it. Major Defense Contractor, 15 years on the job, 55 years old. He received notice that morning and was allowed to clean his desk of personal belongings with security watching. He was escorted to the door by lunch time. No goodbyes, no fair well lunch, no thanks for your service...They don't trust you not to steal or sabotage the office
He got severance but no respect of his integrity

Why should an employee offer more than that when they take another job?

This is normal in the private sector, especially if you have confidentiality agreements as part of the hiring package....for a job that works with Company "secrets"/ "proprietary secrets". there is always a part that covers a period after you have been let go, where the Company is required to pay you...especially if the contract states you are not allowed to go and work for a competitor for 6 months after you leave or are let go....they have to pay you with benefits for that period.

Yes, I can see how he would sort of feel humiliated or something of that sort, but I would bet 10 to one if he read the fine print of the contract, somewhere in there it states this is what the procedure to end a job has to be for such and such and yahdeedah reasons... It just would seem likely to have something like such to be written in to the contract....

Which begs the question..

Why should an employee demonstrate loyalty and respect when they voluntarily leave when the company has no obligation or intention to do the same?

 

[Care4all]

If the prospective employer does not understand the need for you to give two weeks notice to your current employer, then that person is not someone you'd want to work for.

I've always told new employers, (at least in my later career years) I could begin in 3-4 weeks...and if out of state for the new employer, then they needed to give me 6 to 8 weeks before starting a 40 hour plus work week at this new job.

And ALWAYS made certain the hubby and I fit a vacation in before beginning the new job!!!

 

[Bruce_T_Laney]

I have never taken a job where I could not give my other employer a two weeks notice. If someone demands you start the next day, and will not hold your job tell me they are desperate to fill the position and are not as interested in you but just having a able body instead.

Just my opinion...

 

[Care4all]

If your company terminates you. Security escorts you to your desk and watches you clear it out to make sure you are not stealing. You are then escorted out the door.

Why should an employee give two weeks notice?

Wow... Sounds like you've been through that drill!

Again... it's professional courtesy to give a notice if you are leaving for another job. There is no law that you have to. The employer can't sue you if you don't. It shows both your present and future employer that you have integrity, character and honor. I was always more than willing to wait 2 wks for a new hire to work a notice because that told me they were people of integrity who would do me right. And as I said earlier, I always gave departing employees the option to leave without working a notice. I have never fired anyone and given them two weeks notice but I have laid off people who I gave two weeks notice, or in some cases, paid them 2 wks severance.

My brother just went through it. Major Defense Contractor, 15 years on the job, 55 years old. He received notice that morning and was allowed to clean his desk of personal belongings with security watching. He was escorted to the door by lunch time. No goodbyes, no fair well lunch, no thanks for your service...They don't trust you not to steal or sabotage the office
He got severance but no respect of his integrity

Why should an employee offer more than that when they take another job?

This is normal in the private sector, especially if you have confidentiality agreements as part of the hiring package....for a job that works with Company "secrets"/ "proprietary secrets". there is always a part that covers a period after you have been let go, where the Company is required to pay you...especially if the contract states you are not allowed to go and work for a competitor for 6 months after you leave or are let go....they have to pay you with benefits for that period.

Yes, I can see how he would sort of feel humiliated or something of that sort, but I would bet 10 to one if he read the fine print of the contract, somewhere in there it states this is what the procedure to end a job has to be for such and such and yahdeedah reasons... It just would seem likely to have something like such to be written in to the contract....

Which begs the question..

Why should an employee demonstrate loyalty and respect when they voluntarily leave when the company has no obligation or intention to do the same?

They do NOT have to do that...they can give one day, and it is all legal and hunky dory...

HOWEVER, if the employee feels they have done a good job there and this employer likes them and would give them a good reference, and they do not want to burn that bridge, then they can give notice..... it is not necessary, but sort of insurance on the "good reference", and common courtesy, for a company that has been a good employer to you.