UFOs: I want to go on record right now.

[Yarddog]

Exactly. That's why the 'U' stands for 'Unidentified'. These objects are real and there is video evidence of them flying in ways that are impossible by all known technology. That is all that we know, everything else is speculation.

Right. When I was about 8 years old and living out in the desert of Southern California, me and my older brother both saw some objects in the night sky late one evening that I know even now defied the ability of any aircraft we have today... based on the apparent distance, speed and formation... however, there's no why I can say they were some sort of space alien craft.. I dont know what they were. could have been some natural phenomena or who knows what?
maybe something our government has, only thing thats certain is we both saw something real... and very unknown as to what they were, so guess they were UFO's.

 

[Feeding Crows]

Yep, and they pose a threat to national security because we don't know what they are.

It's doubtful that they're Russian or Chinese technology, hopefully. Because if it is, they have leapfrogged our technology by 100+ years. And I doubt the US gov't would be telling us if that was the case...

So to me, it leaves a question that can only be answered by looking at the obvious.

 

[Feeding Crows]

They're either ET, or humans from the future coming back in time.

The second one is physically impossible to me. You cannot go back in time until a wormhole is created, which has never been created yet.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

If you wont accept multiple military pilots eye-witness testimonies, what is it that you need?

Why are you better than them?

To believe these are alien craft?

Uh, bring me a piece of tech. Some materials. An alien.

 

[Feeding Crows]

So super qualified eye-witnesses, that protect our country and have nuclear weapons at their disposal, and have the evidence on video, is not good enough for you?

You're better than that?

 

[Feeding Crows]

OK, I get where you're coming from. You're either a religious zealot, or a total denier.

And you didn't used to be that way Fort Fun. We've known each other for a very long time. Outside of this board. Unless you're a different Fort Fun...

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

So super qualified eye-witnesses, that protect our country and have nuclear weapons at their disposal, and have the evidence on video, is not good enough for you?

You're better than that?

Evidence of what? You are playing the shell game.

Be direct. And don't throw a hissy fit. It's not a Trump thread. it's the science section.

 

[Feeding Crows]

Lol, i'm not throwing a hissy fit. I'm sorry if you think so FFI.

You're saying that testimony from Navy pilots and government officials is not enough for you. Videos from Navy cockpits are not enough for you. Countless reports in the past mean nothing to you.

You want an actual UFO to play with?

If so, get out of the conversation. Because you cannot be rationalized with.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

You're saying that testimony from Navy pilots and government officials is not enough for you

Testimony that they saw objects is, indeed, not enough for me to believe they were alien spacecraft. It's not enough for any rational person.

 

[Feeding Crows]

Testimony that they saw objects is, indeed, not enough for me to believe they were alien spacecraft. It's not enough for any rational person.

Although the Pentagon and Navy agree that they are Unknown Aerial Phenomena, or UAP's, they also refuse to say they are alien. But they do insist that they are real and have flying dynamics that are not scientifically possible at this time.

So let's put your brains on this and try to explain what the military can't, and believes to be a threat to national security?

What do you think they are?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Although the Pentagon and Navy agree that they are Unknown Aerial Phenomena, or UAP's, they also refuse to say they are alien.

Same

Loooooong way to go

 

[Feeding Crows]

But what are the options? Do you have any?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

But what are the options? Do you have any?

Other than the several I have posted?

And even if I had no explanation, that doesn't mean we pull the ufo God of the gaps and say, "therefore aliens".

 

[Feeding Crows]

I know you're atheist, like me. so God is out of the question... so what else?

 

[Feeding Crows]

I don't know what explanations you have posted. You're just refusing for the sake of refusing.

 

[Feeding Crows]

You must have some pretty good explanations though, and you should tell the military.

 

[Feeding Crows]

Or you're just being a donk and arguing with me for no reason other than to argue.

 

[Feeding Crows]

I guess the latter....

 

[easyt65]

I'm not saying UFOs exist...but I find it pretty arrogant for people to believe we are the only beings in existence considering the thousands+ of gallaxies, millions of planets, etc...

'God created the heavenS and the earth'...

Just saying...

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

I don't know what explanations you have posted. You're just refusing for the sake of refusing.

Hallucinations, false memories, optical illusions, mundane objects in the atmosphere, atnospheric phenomena, all the usual ones that have held up for a century in lieu of any good evidence whatsoever that they are something else.

This is the brick wall you are running into. Headfirst.