UKIP slag loses libel case and appeals to the EU for protection

[Phoenall]

Whatever will be left of the UK will have to accept that it is no longer an EU state and will not maintain the same access to the single market that EU states have. That is reasonable.

That will be England, Northern Ireland, Scotland, Wales, IoM and the Channel Islands then, just as it is now. They can always fund their own referendum out of the taxes they raise themselves to see what the people want, and then put it to Westminster to see if parliament accepts it. THis would mean a complete severing of all ties and visa's, passports and I.D. cards being needed to enter the UK. No £ anymore so they will have to create a new currency, then find employment for all the people currently employed by British government in places like Faslane and Nuclear energy plants.


Once again you jump inwithout first thinking it through what the prospects are of slitting the Union

 

[Phoenall]

Shares slide as Brexit fears take hold - BBC News

And it gets worse.

Again forecast to happen this summer as far back as January as the EU was not doing as well as it should have. They relied too heavily on Britain to keep the leaky skow afloat and when it looked like we would leave they conspired to bring us down with them.

 

[Phoenall]

Staples ponders U.K. withdrawal
Nothing to see here.

So they are pulling out of EUROPE then, or didnt you understand that part ?

 

[Phoenall]

Whatever will be left of the UK will have to accept that it is no longer an EU state and will not maintain the same access to the single market that EU states have. That is reasonable.

Would both parties consider negotiations in trade?

No tariffs are currently in place and the UK is in compliance of regulations.

Just the know nothing imbecile proving that he actually does know nothing

 

[Phoenall]

Cognizant dissonance at its best. You are so deluded. Three fourths of the UK's exports are financial services, most are predicated on the UK's membership in the EU and the banking/financial services passport.

Monte know nothings favourite buzz words that he squeals when he has nothing intelligent to add to the debate. Just his way of saying " I amd still here why do you ignore me "

 

[Phoenall]

Before the UK joined the EU/EEC, the UK was going broke.

Because it was ran by neo marxists who were just like you. Now we are a world economy that is in the top 10 nations and can actually foreclose on loans to other nations. It was going that broke that it was building state of the art Iron and steel plants that were the envy of the world. I saw the largest blast furnace in the world get commisioned and watched the first 250 ton ladle of Liquid iron get turned into liquid steel saving £100 a ton in costs. A few short year later Maggie took on the Unions are defeated them by simply refusing to back down and starving them back to work. The neo marxists knew then they were defeated so turned to Europe for their next plan of attack, and they have been defeated again.

 

[Phoenall]

Cognizant dissonance at its best. You are so deluded. Three fourths of the UK's exports are financial services, most are predicated on the UK's membership in the EU and the banking/financial services passport.

The trouble with 'doom & gloom' conclusions, conclusions arguing for our becoming some sort of Failed State, is that they can't be reconciled with any Government choosing to give its People the chance to opt out of Europe in the first place.

Our Conservatives promised us that Referendum. It's sheer insanity to suppose that they'd do so, if in doing so, they knew they could wreck us as a viable national entity.

It therefore must follow that the status quo isn't nearly as doom-laden as you assert it to be. It wouldn't surprise me to discover that as-yet unrevealed contingency plans exist to see us through a Brexit outcome.

Or, then again ... the prospect of our opening up to a much larger trading base, will itself fix perceptions in our favour.

Just too funny.

Yes you are, like all know nothings the world over. Then when you are proven wrong you cry all the way to mummy cos the other boys are laughing at you

 

[Phoenall]

Cognizant dissonance at its best. You are so deluded. Three fourths of the UK's exports are financial services, most are predicated on the UK's membership in the EU and the banking/financial services passport.

The trouble with 'doom & gloom' conclusions, conclusions arguing for our becoming some sort of Failed State, is that they can't be reconciled with any Government choosing to give its People the chance to opt out of Europe in the first place.

Our Conservatives promised us that Referendum. It's sheer insanity to suppose that they'd do so, if in doing so, they knew they could wreck us as a viable national entity.

It therefore must follow that the status quo isn't nearly as doom-laden as you assert it to be. It wouldn't surprise me to discover that as-yet unrevealed contingency plans exist to see us through a Brexit outcome.

Or, then again ... the prospect of our opening up to a much larger trading base, will itself fix perceptions in our favour.

Just too funny.

So 'funny', in fact, that you've no countering argument in your reply ....

Typical monte as this is what he does on the other boards, and then cries to the mods when he is getting his butt kicked .

 

[Phoenall]

It's just fact. The Treaty of Rome was clear, the first article stated:

"HIS MAJESTY THE KING OF THE BELGIANS, THE PRESIDENT OF THE FEDERAL REPUBLIC OF GERMANY, THE PRESIDENT OF THE FRENCH REPUBLIC, THE PRESIDENT OF THE ITALIAN REPUBLIC, HER ROYAL HIGHNESS THE GRAND DUCHESS OF LUXEMBOURG, HER MAJESTY THE QUEEN OF THE NETHERLANDS,

DETERMINED to establish the foundations of an ever closer union among the European peoples,"

That's what the UK voted to enter.

And, as far as the UK's predicament at the time:

"Why did Britain join? For various reasons. Because De Gaulle left, the Commonwealth could not compete, Heath defeated Wilson, the free trade area integration model sunk. But above all, Britain joined because joining the European project was perceived to be a way to stop its relative economic decline. In 1950, UK’s per capita GDP was almost a third larger than the EU6 average; in 1973, it was about 10% below; it has been comparatively stable ever since. On this basis, joining the EU worked – it helped to halt Britain’s relative economic decline vis-à-vis the EU6."

Britain’s EU membership: New insight from economic history | VOX, CEPR’s Policy Portal

You people are ignorant morons, with no knowledge of history.

You really need to learn how to read as nowhere in this does it say Britain was going bust, just that it was unable to keep at the top due to outside forces. Yoiu are the ignorant moron as proven by you calling everyone else an ignorant moron. You know absolutely nothing about anything as I proved on the I/P board many times over before you put me on ignore so you would not see your loss of face

 

[Phoenall]

Don't make the mistake of debating me, I have forgotten more than you morons will ever learn.

You know nothing about anything and rely on the same old links to spam the boards with. Repeating them over and over even after being sjown that they dont say what you claim they do, and when they are used as evidence against you your first claim is that they are propaganda and not source documents

 

[Phoenall]

It's just fact. The Treaty of Rome was clear, the first article stated:

"HIS MAJESTY THE KING OF THE BELGIANS, THE PRESIDENT OF THE FEDERAL REPUBLIC OF GERMANY, THE PRESIDENT OF THE FRENCH REPUBLIC, THE PRESIDENT OF THE ITALIAN REPUBLIC, HER ROYAL HIGHNESS THE GRAND DUCHESS OF LUXEMBOURG, HER MAJESTY THE QUEEN OF THE NETHERLANDS,

DETERMINED to establish the foundations of an ever closer union among the European peoples,"

That's what the UK voted to enter.

And, as far as the UK's predicament at the time:

"Why did Britain join? For various reasons. Because De Gaulle left, the Commonwealth could not compete, Heath defeated Wilson, the free trade area integration model sunk. But above all, Britain joined because joining the European project was perceived to be a way to stop its relative economic decline. In 1950, UK’s per capita GDP was almost a third larger than the EU6 average; in 1973, it was about 10% below; it has been comparatively stable ever since. On this basis, joining the EU worked – it helped to halt Britain’s relative economic decline vis-à-vis the EU6."

Britain’s EU membership: New insight from economic history | VOX, CEPR’s Policy Portal

You people are ignorant morons, with no knowledge of history.

Check this out ...

Treaty of Rome - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Treaty of Rome was in 1958. It was superseded many years later by another Treaty, called the 'Maastrict Treaty' .. in 1992.

As Wikipedia says ...

The word Economic was deleted from the treaty's name by the Maastricht Treaty in 1992, and the treaty was repackaged as the Treaty on the functioning of the European Union on the entry into force of the Treaty of Lisbon in 2009.

According to article one of the current Treaty of Maastricht, the European Union is the successor of the European Community.

It's as clear as day. The nature of the EEC was rejigged so that it became less 'economic', and more 'political power' based. This was done by Treaties designed to overrule earlier versions. And it was done by creeping degrees, over many years.

As for your assertion that we joined to 'halt economic decline' ... well, it's as well that Brexit succeeded, then. When you consider the fact that we've been a major bankroller of it of late, and when you also consider that the EU is a house of cards waiting to topple (i.e wait for the next Member State to default, as Greece did !) ... then, we'll be avoiding a rapid and even catastrophic 'decline' when the EU implodes under the weight of its own debts !!!

Maastricht had nothing to do with the Rome Treaty. It did not change the political integration of the basic Treaty of Rome. That's what the UK joined. You are an idiot.

Here he goes calling everyone idiots when they dissagree with him and show that he is wrong by using source documentation. He will soon be putting you on ignore for showing him up..........................

 

[Phoenall]

Before the UK joined the EU/EEC, the UK was going broke.

I remember the three day week and power cuts.Going cap in hand to the IMF. Happy days.
The fact is that there is no economic sense in cutting ties with your biggest market. It is lunacy on a Trumpian scale.

How is it out biggest market when we are in deficit by 80% to the EU. That is 80% of trade to the UK comes from the EU while they take a paltry 20% of trade from the UK

 

[westwall]

Before the UK joined the EU/EEC, the UK was going broke.

Indeed it was. The globalists had finally run out of other peoples money, as Churchill predicted.

 

[westwall]

Don't make the mistake of debating me, I have forgotten more than you morons will ever learn.

And yet you get your butt handed to you more often then not so your assertion is not born out by fact. The only people who benefited from the EU were globalists and the wealthiest one percent of the one percent. The countryside of the UK is broke. The people have no jobs and they are FORCED to watch as immigrants, both legal and illegal, take the benefits that they worked for. And they are left with the crumbs.

The wealthy never suffer the effects of their choices and rulings. The poor, and the middle class do. They are tired of being served the leftovers.

 

[montelatici]

LOL. Projecting. I always make you morons look like the fools you are. What's left of the UK will go back to what it was before it begged and was able to join the EEC.

Any industry that the UK had was dependent on its membership in the EU. Airbus won't produce wings in the UK anymore, the Japanese won't produce cars in the UK anymore and UK export of services, which represent 75% of UK exports will no longer be exportable as they were before. Even Vodafone is moving out, most of their business is in the EU. Own goal you silly clown.

 

[westwall]

LOL. Projecting. I always make you morons look like the fools you are. What's left of the UK will go back to what it was before it begged and was able to join the EEC.

Any industry that the UK had was dependent on its membership in the EU. Airbus won't produce wings in the UK anymore, the Japanese won't produce cars in the UK anymore and UK export of services, which represent 75% of UK exports will no longer be exportable as they were before. Even Vodafone is moving out, most of their business is in the EU. Own goal you silly clown.

Really? It's going to return to its glory days when the "Sun never sets on the British Empire"? It took decades for the progressives to destroy that empire. Maybe, just maybe, the Britons will kick you idiots to the curb so they can become the great power they once were, again.

 

[Phoenall]

Don't make the mistake of debating me, I have forgotten more than you morons will ever learn.

And yet you get your butt handed to you more often then not so your assertion is not born out by fact. The only people who benefited from the EU were globalists and the wealthiest one percent of the one percent. The countryside of the UK is broke. The people have no jobs and they are FORCED to watch as immigrants, both legal and illegal, take the benefits that they worked for. And they are left with the crumbs.

The wealthy never suffer the effects of their choices and rulings. The poor, and the middle class do. They are tired of being served the leftovers.

He will never accept that he is wrong, he will ignore other people rather than admit that he is using flawed evidence. You got him on the ropes so expect him to go all Librarian on us. He used the same link for months until he was told it showed the Jews owned most of palestine, so he stopped using it and went to another page. He tries to pass of pamphlets written by a committee that used arab workers as their information gatherers, and ignores the evidence of this being the case. Now he is a self confessed expert on Britain having never even set foot in the country and those that live there know nothing.

He is a laughing stock on the I/P board and is tolerated for his comedy value

 

[Tommy Tainant]

LOL. Projecting. I always make you morons look like the fools you are. What's left of the UK will go back to what it was before it begged and was able to join the EEC.

Any industry that the UK had was dependent on its membership in the EU. Airbus won't produce wings in the UK anymore, the Japanese won't produce cars in the UK anymore and UK export of services, which represent 75% of UK exports will no longer be exportable as they were before. Even Vodafone is moving out, most of their business is in the EU. Own goal you silly clown.

Really? It's going to return to its glory days when the "Sun never sets on the British Empire"? It took decades for the progressives to destroy that empire. Maybe, just maybe, the Britons will kick you idiots to the curb so they can become the great power they once were, again.

Power based on exploiting the assets of third world countries ?

That should work out well.

 

[Phoenall]

LOL. Projecting. I always make you morons look like the fools you are. What's left of the UK will go back to what it was before it begged and was able to join the EEC.

Any industry that the UK had was dependent on its membership in the EU. Airbus won't produce wings in the UK anymore, the Japanese won't produce cars in the UK anymore and UK export of services, which represent 75% of UK exports will no longer be exportable as they were before. Even Vodafone is moving out, most of their business is in the EU. Own goal you silly clown.

Really? It's going to return to its glory days when the "Sun never sets on the British Empire"? It took decades for the progressives to destroy that empire. Maybe, just maybe, the Britons will kick you idiots to the curb so they can become the great power they once were, again.

Power based on exploiting the assets of third world countries ?

That should work out well.

Then the morons like yourself expect the English to bail them out when it goes wrong.

 

[theHawk]

Irony is dead: UKIP MEP appeals to EU for help in libel case

You could not make this up.

Pond life.

Well if your country wasn't run by progressive-Nazis and allowed freedom of speech, there wouldn't be any need for someone to get away from a rediculous fine for speaking their mind.

Maybe we should report you and all of your slanderous comments to the authorities over there, see how you like it.