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It is totally understandable, but since his invasion NATO has gotten larger with the addition of Sweden.Russia doesn't want large NATO forces on its border, especially near Moscow. Why is that so hard to understand?
So if the US and EU keep giving Ukraine weapons to defend itself, and weaken Russia in the process, you have a problem with that?Look at you! Another tin soldier, potato-head or a justice seeker from the dump. Democracy is at peril at your southern border while you're wasting time bullshitting about matters you got no clue of. Hohloland is coming to an end and Odessa and Transnistria are going to return to the Motherland no matter what morons like you and our famous shit eater ( Litwin, that is) babble here about.
Well, he can't really babble, he's got no mental capacity to do that. He copies and pastes. That's where he's a pro.
It's your money going to waste, so I give nothing but a flying fuck about that. It may prolong Ukies' agony for a while and give Russians more time to get rid of more Banderites that they originally planned. Bad people those Banderites, you know.So if the US and EU keep giving Ukraine weapons to defend itself, and weaken Russia in the process, you have a problem with that?
Nato isn't in UKRAIN even though PUTIN IS. Why is that so hard for you to understand~!Russia doesn't want large NATO forces on its border, especially near Moscow. Why is that so hard to understand?
Russians have long memories.It is totally understandable, but since his invasion NATO has gotten larger with the addition of Sweden.
He knows that NATO is not aggressive but is a defensive alliance.
Putin has nothing to fear from NATO. That is what he needs to understand.
About what?Russians have long memories.
Many countries in NATO have.About what?
NATO didn't invade Russia.
Putin’s unprovoked invasion
It wasn’t unprovoked. Most of the land area of what is now Ukraine was formerly a part of the Russian Empire.
Hardly, Putin made it clear Ukraine in NATO means nuclear war. Sweden and Finland are bit players in Russia's strategic defense. The same cannot be said of Ukraine.Putin has made it clear that admitting Ukraine to NATO is a necessity
Just ask Sweden and Finland who were formerly neutral
Which has no bearing on the present day borders of an independent Ukraine
The existence of Ukraine is not a provocation.
Can we at last acknowledge that having Ukraine join NATO was a bad idea? (Strategically, this is on par with Russia placing missiles in Cuba.) If we really thought Russia was so weak as to not oppose this idea, why didn't NATO just move into Ukraine and take over its defense? One explanation for pushing Ukraine to join NATO is that hatred towards Russia was ginned up in response to Russia's alleged interference in the 2016 US Presidential election. Do you have another explanation for why we wanted Ukraine to join NATO?
That's not an off ramp, that would be blatant hypocrisy and completely diminish whatever it is NATO is supposed to stand for these days. To disregard the very rules NATO has set forth for membership to jump into a war defeats the whole purpose of a supposedly 'defensive' alliance. If we weren't willing to spill American blood on the first day, it was never worth anything to us.Bullshit. Admitting Ukraine into NATO is the quickest and cheapest off-ramp I see.
Russia and Ukraine both want the war to stop, but there is no end unless NATO steps in.
It damned brilliant idea. Pooty's wet dream is recreating the former Soviet Union Empire. Ukraine is fighting for it's freedom. The people of Ukraine remember being part of U.S.S.R. They do NOT want a return to the bad old days. I know you MAGA MAGGOTS worship the shit that comes out of Pooty's ass, but is now and always will a Communist.
Putin disagrees. The existence of an independent Ukraine clearly is a provocation. Knowing some factual history might make you better adept at understanding the situation.
Email Putin and tell him, “Don’t Don’t”.
That should settle the matter.
Your post offers critique' but not a better solution.That's not an off ramp, that would be blatant hypocrisy and completely diminish whatever it is NATO is supposed to stand for these days. To disregard the very rules NATO has set forth for membership to jump into a war defeats the whole purpose of a supposedly 'defensive' alliance. If we weren't willing to spill American blood on the first day, it was never worth anything to us.
Originally posted by kyzr
My solution of admitting Ukraine into NATO is the fastest and cheapest off-ramp.
Gaining what? That's what I call an "empty threat".If you want to see what will be left of Ukraine when the war is over, being bombarded for all eternity, go ahead with your plan.
