Understanding Christianity

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[OnePercenter]

No...all atheists do is prevent you from forcing your beliefs on others

No atheist is requiring you to stand up and proclaim there is no God

Yeah, tell that to a coach kneeling on a football field.

Went right over your head

That coach kneeling on the field is encouraging players to kneel with him. Players trying to stay in the coaches good graces

You don't have coaches telling players there is no Jesus

OMG - PEOPLE KNEELING!

Snowflake.

Kneeling propagates the $68B/yr tax free bilk on the American people.

Yeah, sure.

Isn't kneeling before the deity part of the dance of almost every religion?

 

[OnePercenter]

Christianity is easy to understand.

The problem is Christians.

Shouldn't it be; The problem is Christians that formed Christianity and who follow the beliefs today?

Actually can be used for ALL religions.

11 of the 12 people who formed Christianity were tortured to death for doing it. And they knew they would be. So what's the motive?

You're just a typical leftard coward who attacks Christians because you know you're safe and you run to defend Islam because you're a pathetic coward.

Because it takes money of the other belief. It's all about the money numb-nuts!

 

[OnePercenter]

forcing your beliefs on others

how exactly does this happen? Even in the case of kneeling, people have a choice to no kneel. You could have the same coach admonish a player for talking about Jesus, is that ok too? If so, why?

You have a 16 year old trying to make the team and the coach says......let's all take a knee and pray to God

Is the kid going to say no thanks...I don't believe in God

Maybe. Maybe not. But even if he does out of peer pressure, I'm sure in his mind he's thinking nothing about God, and if he does, well, maybe God is calling him. Honestly, I don't care about the issue. Most schools won't allow this I would think, but really I don't know ... I have seen it done .... usually there are only a few students doing it on their own, not with the coach.

'God is calling him?' WTF does that mean?

That's what Christians say when you feel led to become a Christian

When all else fails....pray.

 

[Meriweather]

When all else fails....pray.

Or, first pray--so all else doesn't fail.

 

[OnePercenter]

Christianity promotes the virtues of thankfulness, forgiveness, humility, chastity, temperance, charity, diligence, patience and kindness. Christianity is responsible for the creation of wonderful charities and organizations which serve the betterment of man. Christians and Christian institutions are usually the first source of literacy, education, and healthcare in the poorer regions.Christians and Christian institutions have been the source of abundant human services from hospitals, orphanages, nursing homes, and schools, to advocacy on behalf of those with no voice, to supporting cultural outreaches, and seeking always to find ways in which to protect and promote human life and its authentic flourishing. Christianity gave us the concept of subsidiarity and has done what no government can ever do, namely teach morality and civility Christianity teaches accountability and responsibility. Christianity teaches that we have a choice in how we behave and that actions have consequences. Christianity inspires a sense of wonder in nature and the universe and helps us feel connected to one another and to nature through regular community gatherings. Christianity helps us feel less alone in the world by binding the community together. Christianity serves to ennoble the human spirit and inspires love, peace and happiness. Christianity brings order to our lives by promoting the virtues of thankfulness, forgiveness and humility. Christianity brings comfort to the terminally ill and can act as a source of hope for the oppressed. Christianity teaches that we can transform ourselves. That it is possible to change for the better. Christian values were the foundation which Western Civilization was built upon. No other institution played a greater role in shaping Western Civilization than the Catholic Church. Modern science was born in the Catholic Church. Catholic priests developed the idea of free-market. The Catholic Church invented the university. Western law grew out of Church canon law. The Church humanized the West by insisting on the sacredness of all human life. The Church constantly sought to alleviate the evils of slavery and repeatedly denounced the mass enslavement of conquered populations and the infamous slave trade, thereby undermining slavery at its sources. Religion gave us great thinkers, leaders and humanitarians. Christianity gave us America. Christianity gave us incredible artwork, music and architecture. Christianity has spread democracy throughout the world. Christians fought other Christians in WWII to end their aggression and rebuilt Europe and Japan after WWII. Christians put a man on the moon and ended the cold war.

Here's some facts for ya

Vatican Inc.: 5 facts about the business of the Catholic Church

Wealth of Roman Catholic Church impossible to calculate

I like this one; '31 In millions of dollars, the amount seized from the Vatican bank by Italian authorities during an investigation into money laundering.' Are they the Mob?

 

[OnePercenter]

When all else fails....pray.

Or, first pray--so all else doesn't fail.

But first, make your tax-deductible offering!

 

[irosie91]

"The kingdom of the world has become the kingdom of our Lord and of his Christ" (Rev. 11:15). That is what the Church has effected.

Consider the Soviet Union, for example, a communist regime - an atheist regime - that razed churches, burned Christian art, literature, and sacred texts, and generally persecuted Christians. Ultimately, the Iron Curtain fell, and Christianity, battered and bruised as it may have been, stood above the rubble, in Russia and indeed in the other former Soviet block states as well. Even still, the Lord whose kingdom reigns through all the generations (Eph. 3:21) is conquering the nations.

The Scriptures, Old and New Testaments, relate to this theme, seldom referencing the idea that Jesus died so that when we die, we can go to heaven. Not to dismiss that notion, as the Bible does mention it once or twice, but the story of the Bible is the story of God and His fellowship with His creation on the earth.

When we understand that, we can wrap our minds around the Bible. We can see continuity in it, from Genesis to Revelation. We can understand Christianity.

so true------I DO agree. READ BOTH BOOKS and learn a bit about the times in which Jesus lived----
and the issues of the ROMAN EMPIRE -------Christianity is roman thru and thru. Jesus was a Pharisee
jew------thru and thru. Rome TRULY IS BABYLON------The first book of the bible ---GENESIS is a
remarkable repudiation of Babylon-------the issue comes full circle in the book of revulsions in which an
anonymous "john" describes THE WHORE OF BABYLON

 

[Meriweather]

But first, make your tax-deductible offering!

Ah, first I must work and pay my taxes before I can make an offering that is tax deductible.

Seriously, religion = philosophy = the code some choose to live by. It acts as the point North on a compass or the North Star at night. It is a guide by which to steer.

It puzzles me that what works for some gets others so bent out of shape and snarky.

 

[BreezeWood]

The prince of peace who leads everyone to thousands of wars and over 50 million murdered in his name?

You mean the Christians that liberated the Jews from Germany and established the state of Israel?

That's some gratitude you have there.

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You mean the Christians that liberated the Jews from Germany and established the state of Israel?

That's some gratitude you have there.

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FDR is your hero, liar ... read your signature zealot.



* hows general lee doing for you, these days.

Even FDR understood that continued dependence destroys the spirit of man.

"...The lessons of history, confirmed by the evidence immediately before me, show conclusively that continued dependence upon relief induces a spiritual and moral disintegration fundamentally destructive to the national fibre. To dole out relief in this way is to administer a narcotic, a subtle destroyer of the human spirit..."

1 - Annual Message to Congress, January 4, 1935

http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/?pid=14890

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Even FDR understood that continued dependence destroys the spirit of man.

Understanding Christianity


nothing to worry about for a christian ... being dead. oh, I meant sinners.

 

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thanks. one less thing to worry about.

 

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Christianity promotes the virtues of thankfulness, forgiveness, humility, chastity, temperance, charity, diligence, patience and kindness. Christianity is responsible for the creation of wonderful charities and organizations which serve the betterment of man. Christians and Christian institutions are usually the first source of literacy, education, and healthcare in the poorer regions.Christians and Christian institutions have been the source of abundant human services from hospitals, orphanages, nursing homes, and schools, to advocacy on behalf of those with no voice, to supporting cultural outreaches, and seeking always to find ways in which to protect and promote human life and its authentic flourishing. Christianity gave us the concept of subsidiarity and has done what no government can ever do, namely teach morality and civility Christianity teaches accountability and responsibility. Christianity teaches that we have a choice in how we behave and that actions have consequences. Christianity inspires a sense of wonder in nature and the universe and helps us feel connected to one another and to nature through regular community gatherings. Christianity helps us feel less alone in the world by binding the community together. Christianity serves to ennoble the human spirit and inspires love, peace and happiness. Christianity brings order to our lives by promoting the virtues of thankfulness, forgiveness and humility. Christianity brings comfort to the terminally ill and can act as a source of hope for the oppressed. Christianity teaches that we can transform ourselves. That it is possible to change for the better. Christian values were the foundation which Western Civilization was built upon. No other institution played a greater role in shaping Western Civilization than the Catholic Church. Modern science was born in the Catholic Church. Catholic priests developed the idea of free-market. The Catholic Church invented the university. Western law grew out of Church canon law. The Church humanized the West by insisting on the sacredness of all human life. The Church constantly sought to alleviate the evils of slavery and repeatedly denounced the mass enslavement of conquered populations and the infamous slave trade, thereby undermining slavery at its sources. Religion gave us great thinkers, leaders and humanitarians. Christianity gave us America. Christianity gave us incredible artwork, music and architecture. Christianity has spread democracy throughout the world. Christians fought other Christians in WWII to end their aggression and rebuilt Europe and Japan after WWII. Christians put a man on the moon and ended the cold war.

Here's some facts for ya

Vatican Inc.: 5 facts about the business of the Catholic Church

Wealth of Roman Catholic Church impossible to calculate

I like this one; '31 In millions of dollars, the amount seized from the Vatican bank by Italian authorities during an investigation into money laundering.' Are they the Mob?

Awesome. Thanks. Anything else you want to get off your chest?

 

[RWNJ]

Go therefore and make disciples...etc

This is the job of Christians as stated by Jesus, so, if you wonder why many Christians ar "pushing" their agenda, this is one reason why

The other reason is the 2nd greatest commandment, too love others. Realize, to a Christian, the best way to show love to their fellow man is to tell the the "Good News", as the believe the life that really matters is the afterlife.. not this one on Earth

If Christians really believed in what Jesus did, they'd really have to hate you to not share the message.

Very true. Since Jesus is one and only way to heaven and the alternative is hell.

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being on the wrong side of history is the physical proof of 4th century christianities fallacy and distortion of Truths whether granted or found they purposefully prevent from resolution for themselves and others preventing the very Admission to the Everlasting they profess to be their goal.

What's "the wrong side of history"?

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What's "the wrong side of history"?

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the history of christianity from the late 4th century to the present day -

That is not the history of Christianity. It is the history of evil men claiming to be Christians. Do you comprehend the difference?

 

[Taz]

But first, make your tax-deductible offering!

Ah, first I must work and pay my taxes before I can make an offering that is tax deductible.

Seriously, religion = philosophy = the code some choose to live by. It acts as the point North on a compass or the North Star at night. It is a guide by which to steer.

It puzzles me that what works for some gets others so bent out of shape and snarky.

religion=Christians=Muslims=war and killing

 

[Penelope]

"The kingdom of the world has become the kingdom of our Lord and of his Christ" (Rev. 11:15). That is what the Church has effected.

Consider the Soviet Union, for example, a communist regime - an atheist regime - that razed churches, burned Christian art, literature, and sacred texts, and generally persecuted Christians. Ultimately, the Iron Curtain fell, and Christianity, battered and bruised as it may have been, stood above the rubble, in Russia and indeed in the other former Soviet block states as well. Even still, the Lord whose kingdom reigns through all the generations (Eph. 3:21) is conquering the nations.

The Scriptures, Old and New Testaments, relate to this theme, seldom referencing the idea that Jesus died so that when we die, we can go to heaven. Not to dismiss that notion, as the Bible does mention it once or twice, but the story of the Bible is the story of God and His fellowship with His creation on the earth.

When we understand that, we can wrap our minds around the Bible. We can see continuity in it, from Genesis to Revelation. We can understand Christianity.

so true------I DO agree. READ BOTH BOOKS and learn a bit about the times in which Jesus lived----
and the issues of the ROMAN EMPIRE -------Christianity is roman thru and thru. Jesus was a Pharisee
jew------thru and thru. Rome TRULY IS BABYLON------The first book of the bible ---GENESIS is a
remarkable repudiation of Babylon-------the issue comes full circle in the book of revulsions in which an
anonymous "john" describes THE WHORE OF BABYLON

Well you know if the zealot jews did not start a civil war in Judea and northern Israel, Herods temple might still be there. Rome won , deal with it.

 

[Meriweather]

religion=Christians=Muslims=war and killing

This barely scratches the surface. No religion was founded for military/warrior purposes.

The underlying cause of war is greed. People want more treasure, more power--and they will fight to gain it. On the other side, rather than yielding power and treasure, people will fight to retain what they have.

Religion, to the truly faithful, is treasure. Many would more willingly give up monetary and property treasure before they would give up the treasure their faith has instilled within. They will fight to retain religious beliefs, practices, and traditions.

Those with greed for power in mind want to harness that power of religion for their own use--and are sometimes successful. The power of God--and the power of those who believe in God--is a force to be reckoned with. Throughout history we see those who misuse it for their own purposes usually, in the long run, end up paying dearly. Those who are short-sighted could not care less about the long term. They have what they want for their life and see the future as someone else's problem.

 

[irosie91]

"The kingdom of the world has become the kingdom of our Lord and of his Christ" (Rev. 11:15). That is what the Church has effected.

Consider the Soviet Union, for example, a communist regime - an atheist regime - that razed churches, burned Christian art, literature, and sacred texts, and generally persecuted Christians. Ultimately, the Iron Curtain fell, and Christianity, battered and bruised as it may have been, stood above the rubble, in Russia and indeed in the other former Soviet block states as well. Even still, the Lord whose kingdom reigns through all the generations (Eph. 3:21) is conquering the nations.

The Scriptures, Old and New Testaments, relate to this theme, seldom referencing the idea that Jesus died so that when we die, we can go to heaven. Not to dismiss that notion, as the Bible does mention it once or twice, but the story of the Bible is the story of God and His fellowship with His creation on the earth.

When we understand that, we can wrap our minds around the Bible. We can see continuity in it, from Genesis to Revelation. We can understand Christianity.

so true------I DO agree. READ BOTH BOOKS and learn a bit about the times in which Jesus lived----
and the issues of the ROMAN EMPIRE -------Christianity is roman thru and thru. Jesus was a Pharisee
jew------thru and thru. Rome TRULY IS BABYLON------The first book of the bible ---GENESIS is a
remarkable repudiation of Babylon-------the issue comes full circle in the book of revulsions in which an
anonymous "john" describes THE WHORE OF BABYLON

Well you know if the zealot jews did not start a civil war in Judea and northern Israel, Herods temple might still be there. Rome won , deal with it.

Penny dear-----your statement is utterly idiotic-----Rome destroyed cultures thruout the known world at
that time and its interest in Judea and the Galil was no greater than its interest in what the DRUIDS were
doing at Stonehenge, The romans wanted slaves to build their obscene monuments and cities and to
pay tribute and to feed to lions to entertain the vestal sluts------then Christianity happened and the death
rate SOARED EVEN HIGHER. Learn some history when you learn to read. Rome did win-----it lasted
from the first reich of Constantine all the way thru the third reich of saint adolf over the dead bodies of hundreds of millions

 

[irosie91]

religion=Christians=Muslims=war and killing

This barely scratches the surface. No religion was founded for military/warrior purposes.

The underlying cause of war is greed. People want more treasure, more power--and they will fight to gain it. On the other side, rather than yielding power and treasure, people will fight to retain what they have.

Religion, to the truly faithful, is treasure. Many would more willingly give up monetary and property treasure before they would give up the treasure their faith has instilled within. They will fight to retain religious beliefs, practices, and traditions.

Those with greed for power in mind want to harness that power of religion for their own use--and are sometimes successful. The power of God--and the power of those who believe in God--is a force to be reckoned with. Throughout history we see those who misuse it for their own purposes usually, in the long run, end up paying dearly. Those who are short-sighted could not care less about the long term. They have what they want for their life and see the future as someone else's problem.

Constantine used Christianity for conquest and gold. Muhummad inivented islam for conquest
and gold. Genghis Khan carried on the tradition of muhummad over the dead bodies of tens of
millions.

 

[irosie91]

If Christians really believed in what Jesus did, they'd really have to hate you to not share the message.

Very true. Since Jesus is one and only way to heaven and the alternative is hell.

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being on the wrong side of history is the physical proof of 4th century christianities fallacy and distortion of Truths whether granted or found they purposefully prevent from resolution for themselves and others preventing the very Admission to the Everlasting they profess to be their goal.

What's "the wrong side of history"?

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What's "the wrong side of history"?

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the history of christianity from the late 4th century to the present day -

That is not the history of Christianity. It is the history of evil men claiming to be Christians. Do you comprehend the difference?

the mass murderer Constantine is called "SAINT" I am not sure he is a saint for the catholic church---
but he is for the eastern orthodox. ------I was fascinated that a church in my town of the eastern ortho
variety-----kinda changed its name to pay tribute to SAINT HELENA, the mother of Constantine------
seems to me that the people there grew brains

 

[BreezeWood]

If Christians really believed in what Jesus did, they'd really have to hate you to not share the message.

Very true. Since Jesus is one and only way to heaven and the alternative is hell.

.
being on the wrong side of history is the physical proof of 4th century christianities fallacy and distortion of Truths whether granted or found they purposefully prevent from resolution for themselves and others preventing the very Admission to the Everlasting they profess to be their goal.

What's "the wrong side of history"?

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What's "the wrong side of history"?

View attachment 146910


the history of christianity from the late 4th century to the present day -

That is not the history of Christianity. It is the history of evil men claiming to be Christians. Do you comprehend the difference?

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That is not the history of Christianity. It is the history of evil men claiming to be Christians. Do you comprehend the difference?

Do you comprehend the difference?


history bears witness they are one in the same.

were their atrocities ever through history corrected at the time there might be a discussion that is not the case each generation that follows, induced by the 4th century christian bible is led down the same path of evil by the books forgeries and underlying deliberate deceitfulness. you are one of them.

their book is written by the 1st century crucifiers, until they are brought to Justice christianity will remain a forsaken and false religion ...